Stopping power removed = shotgun rushing all day. I rather feel assured that I am slowing down a charging rhino instead of hoping to down it. Wallbouncing pros will definitely benefit from that.
Hey Arctic, in regard to your recent wallbouncing endeavors, I'm wondering if you've seen PharNico's (Nicodemusx0) gnasher/wallbouncing montage. I stumbled across it one day and was absolutely blown away by the sheer amount of speed and control he has over his bounces. I felt that I was a fairly proficient player in Gears, and afterwards I felt that the bar in skill has been raised. If you've watched it, I'd like to hear your thoughts. If not, then please give it a look!
@tdofredo Skyllus was equally amazed, and has since then switched his scheme to Alternate, because of that video. Skyllus commented on it to let him know it was because of him.
I think my nza is broken cuz I cant hit walls back to back consistently even tapping my rmfb a billion times. Oh and I didn't know the hammerburst had stoping power.
I like stopping power because it's there to punish people for making a dumb move. However I do believe 100% that it should be removed from competitive play so an on off switch would be nice. I think the balance they have now for public is good.
arctic: I use the alternate control scheme and often when I try to bounce to a wall that I am DEFINITELY within range of, nothing happens. does your camera have to be aiming at the wall to bounce to it? cause from what I see of your gameplay, it doesn't, but when I play gears, something seems seriously wrong. is it just cause I don't have an onza? it gets me killed a lot because I try to do an initial bounce but my character does nothing and I'm a sitting duck. any inuput you might have?
@oxenpoxen I'm fairly sure you do. Might go pick up a replacement Xbox and try it today. Missing the crap out of Gears. I'll test it for you if I get an Xbox today.
@MrShyguy0@oxenpoxen objection ! at some situations you don't need to be aiming at the wall you want to bounce to. example: you're in a corridor (the walls are relatively close to you) and you're getting shot. WHILE aiming at the guy and shooting him, you can hold your left stick to the wall you want to bounce to and just press the A, but look it just works when you are "close" to the wall, if you're kinda far, you'll just roll. for a visual proof, search it on arctic's videos
A rare team change from you guys. You along with Cali, Phobos, and Skyllus have been together for about 2 years I think if I'm not mistaken. Still, picking up Cream is killer mover. :) Can't wait to see how you guys will do in any upcoming Gears event. BTW, they should remove it from Retro permanently. That gun is powerful enough at close range.
See i could care less about stoping power, i use the hammerburst and retro and i havent seen a real noticable change, i still drop guys like its my job at a distance with the hammerburst and i still use the retro to set up my gnasher kills when needed I could care less if anything it evens the playing field if you use the lancer, i use retro for certain situation and maps and hammerburst for certain situations and maps so idk i kinda like it
I don't care too much about the Retro but thank you Epic for nerfing the Hammy fuck this is Gears not CoD now these HB scrubs gotta grow some balls and get some CQC skill with the Gnasher instead of sitting back all damn game
well the thing is that because of the sawed off the whole game was ruined because stopping power has to be there for it otherwise even with its range nerfs and everything it will just dominate everyone
As a long time Retro user, the lack of stopping power is incredibly annoying. There's almost no point to using it over the Lancer anymore, as any Gnasher/SO user can just rush before they get downed now. It's obvious they're trying to appease the Gnasher users by nerfing anything that can counter it, but this is just getting stupid now.
@Killer7Samurai yer i mean im a gnasher user but even i think that they didnt nerf it right either but the retro is still a noob weapon anyway you put it, litreally downs in less than a second at effectove range soo i dno but they could have nerfed it in a less hindering way
@MrBeauJango And the Gnasher gibs you instantly in its effective range. How is that any different? The entire point of the Retro was to be the close-to-mid range rifle. Without stopping power, it loses its edge in its own range category. There's no reason to use it over the Lancer, since an active Lancer will down almost as fast, AND slow their rush. This would be like making the Gnasher unable to gib, and unable to down in one shot. It would completely destroy the point of the gun.
@Killer7Samurai yer but the retro shouldn't even be in the game anyway i'm sure they could have spent more time actually thinking about a good starting rifle that actually had a good role without being piss easy to use and clearly a crutch for bad players
@rchrdguerra4 Seeing as it's supposed to be a CQC rifle, I'm frustrated that they decide to ruin what it's good at. If it has no stopping power, it either needs to be more accurate, which would horrible balance-wise, or it needs to do more damage to compensate. I'd also like to add that the only reason they removed its stopping power was because Gnasher "babies" were "sad" that they couldn't rush blindly through a hail of bullets and win anymore.
@Killer7Samurai gnahser babies that couldnt rush blindly through hail of bullets.....for one to use a gnasher it requires skilll,,,yu can use a gnasher in many different scenarios,,while a retro lancer the only thing you really must know how to do is aim down properly so yu can reduce the recoil an get a kill...retro lancers does not require skill what so ever,,even someone new to the game can use it..generally scrubs if yu want a tip on how to stop people with a gnasher learn how to be better
They should not remove it from any o the rifles they should just weaken the hammerbusrt a little. And they should remove stopping power from the scorcher.
i hate my no stoping power hammy. i need it to take out those sawed off loser. without it im hopeless. however in a game without sawed offs i dont noticed it at all
Actually now someone can run straight at me in the open (from a relative short distance) with a shotgun while I'm defending the ring or whatever and using the Hammerburst, and kill me. That wouldn't happen with stopping power. Not a big deal that it was removed, but I don't think that should happen.I don't think removing stopping power entirely is good idea (maybe reduce/tweak it). Even cliffyB said SP was gonna stay.
Just my opinion.
I don't use the retro so can't say anything about that gun.
I mostly use the Hammerburst and I honestly didn't even notice. I agree that it would be interesting to see how much gameplay changed with the Lancer stopping power removed too. I think it would really increase movement, especially against teams in TDM that only use lancers :/
Leave SP in, without it, ShotgunFeast! I agree with you about on/off switch for ppl that want it. My shotgun skills(firing from the hip) are not great, if not average, so I tend to favour the rifles.
I feel and see the difference in the Hammer Burst and Retro with no Stopping Power. The guns all most feel broking.There still strong but takes more perfect Aiming to kill someone with them. I think is should be reduce and maybe not turned off all together. I'm glad there letting us try it out anyway.
is this a joke? The lancer being the Most OP in my opinion..,the clip is practically unlimited the active is ridiculously OP and then the stopping power? Id really have NO prob with it if it werent for the stopping on the lancer. and i agree..the hammerburst didnt have much SP unless u were rushing them head on...which would be your fault. and the retro seemed needed to me ...
@SwagSoSickRick The HB active reload only makes the down 1 shot less, from 8 to 7.
Also it didn't receive any boost in damage, it's just their long-range damage reduction penalties were removed, which means you do the same damage at all distances (that's how it should be for a long range weapon).
I agree, they should take the stopping power off the Lancer since it is the most used rifle in the Game. The clip is ridiculously long and it is very strong, so there is no need for it to have stopping power on top of all of that IMO.
wtf is this shit? If you want no stopping power, go play gears 1 or 2. Without stopping power, you can play like an idiot and still win, which is stupid.
Ha I got my account un banned. I proved that I didn't use hacks and they let me play online again. Arctic baby see you online. Whoa!!! :D Cole train runs on whole grain!
i think the lancer without stoppiong power is kinda ussless but who knows might be same without stopping power but the think is that the lancer with stopping power helps me deal with retro and sawed-off
@pharnico Your video made me switch to alternate. I'm nowhere near your level yet but I'm starting to get the hang of it. I still don't know how you bounce down thrashball staircases as I find it's too wide apart but good job.
i feel lk they should just take out SP from all of the rifles because i usually play alpha anyway and gears has always been about the shotgun and thats what i love. the rifles are strong without SP anyway.
Stopping power being gone didn't really effect how many deaths/kills I got from or by rifles. What did happen is I was no longer yelling "bullshit" when someone shot me down with the hammy. It's really frustrating to be trying to evade and not being able to go anywhere, but without stopping power you know they deserved the kill.
So I switched back to "Regular" control scheme to see if you could grab walls further away....
And I think this is a misconception... Maybe you should test that theory.... but from my 2 min test... you grab walls at the exact same distance and with alternate you do nothing where you would roll with the regular.
@arCtiCvBi i see why my retro was a lil weak but i know how to aim and blind fire with it raam need to be fix hes too big hes so easy to hit pls reform players about that too
I can see why having stopping power removed from competitive stand point could be viable, but I kind of like stopping power across the board for all the rifles. It just makes sense if someone is getting shot that they wouldn't be able to move as quick. I suppose that line of thinking is just from being accustomed to playing with SP for so long. It would be interesting to see how a zero stopping power play list would turn out.
Yeah dissappointed they took SP out of the retro. It was what I would switch two on certain maps if the Sawed-off was killing me a lot. Now that counter to the Sawed-off doesn't really work the same. Overall I like the idea of taking out SP though (like with all rifles). It would allow for greater mobility and more exciting gnasher gameplay I think.
As a Hammerburst user I don't care if there is no stopping power cause Hammerburst is meant to be a long range weapon and that is how I use it. Now the Retro, I barely use it cause I am really bad with it, but I think it should keep the stopping power, the range is pretty short for a rifle and close quarters should be Retro's specialty.
retro never needed to be in the game so i'm glad they took out stopping power, the hammerburst down's in like 7 bullets so there is no need for stopping power. Now if they remove the stopping power on the lancer and tone down the gnashers range this game could truly be the best game i have ever played.
EVERY EPISODE reminds me why I love following you! You are saying exactly what I think! The hammerburst is soooo OP! I am trying to get Onyx for my retro and they have made that gun so much worse than it used to be...This multiplayer is not the same as it was months ago...sometimes too much change is not a good thing. ALOT of people I used to play with quit because this is not the same game it was in September...and I agrre with their complaints...Keep up the good work!
I dont know about you, but I'm getting a lot of sawed-offs users in Team Deathmatch lately... I know you mostly played ranked, but is it just the quick match thats possibly causing this?
This explains a lot. I didn't know that Stopping Power was removed but I felt it lastnight. Thought my connection was funny as gnasher rushers were just waltzing through my retro fire. I don't mind it just would have been nice for some announcement or something so I could have atleast adjusted my play.
stopping power for the hammy and retro are not needed. however for the lancer I can see why they have it. some people just don't use the shottys that much. also with the lancer in gears 3 I actually have a reason to use it instead of running always with my gnasher.
@kyle455645 the guns are smaller on clayton carmine/recruit because he is a bigger person in the virtual world if you took a look at augustus cole he has the same problem aswell and he is a musculer character aswell as the two carmines
Honestly alternate is easier in my opinion. A lot of times playing on default controls, i made a lot of mistakes caus of every command being on A but alternate eased it up by moving roadie run and evade to X. People need to stop complaining about something thats better then the old one
Stopping power needs to stay. I can understand the hammy losing it by nature of its supposed to be a long range, single shot weapon on top of the fact that it's already so powerful, but the gameplay mechanic itself aids to add another layer of strategy to the game that I would hate to see removed. I think the power level of the rifles are just about perfect. Dont take us back to a shotguns only game.
@ZombieFlanders4073 Well said, I completely agree. People already resort to Gnasher combat so often in the game as is. I like having stopping power on all the rifles. Even if I get slapped by it. I shouldn't have been exposed.
I'm a fan of stopping power removed from both HB and Retro - they're remarkably powerful guns. The non-active Lancer is at a serious disadvantage compared to them. Even with an active, it's still between the two. So, I'm not a fan of taking away the stopping power entirely. That said, the active Lancer might be better balanced without the boost to SP.
The only problem I see is sawed-off shotguns wont be stopped as easily by rifles anymore. But it is what it is. And its amazing how you never really run into them in your videos. I'm always in a match with at least 1 sawed-off shotgun user and they all play the same: Hide around a corner and wait for someone to come by.
Also Arctic, why do you think both regular Clayton and Recruit Clayton have tiny guns? those gun sizes are about the size of Anya's guns if i'm not mistaken.
Is the goal of these patches in Gears 3 to bring gears back to Gears 1? Or maybe a gears 1 / gears 3 hybrid. The only problem i foresee with possibly removing stopping power from the game completely would be a little gun called the sawed off... i can only imagine the frustration of starting to lancer down a sawed-off user only to have him bum-rush the shit out of me and blow me away.
Well arctic if you want to know the boundaries of wallbouncing on alternate i will send you a video of me wall bouncing when i get my cap card setup in the near future.
To me, It's not so much the fact that SP is gone from the Hammy / Retro, its now the gap between the Lancer and the other two guns (again) that annoys me.
The reason the Hammy was buffed in the first place was that the Lancer completely outclassed it and it's starting to look like things might go that way again now. I just dont see enough reason to use the Hammy over the Lancer apart from the Onxy medal.
@arCtiCvBi I'm a hammerbust user and I think that if they remove the stopping power on those 2 rifles they should have done it to all, the lancer is probably the most powerful of all n with head modifier it ain't fair if they gonna level the playing field they should do it right.
@Josez1212 True, and they should re-add the head multiplier to the hammy or remove it from the lancer. Hammy would be superior in every regard IMO if it had SP and a head multiplier.
losing stopping power on the hammy and retro is a dick move, the retro is literally useless now. the whole point of it was for newer players to compete at close range, now it just wont. they nerfed it once, and now theyre doing it again so its just way underpowered now. they should lower the recoil now if theyre going to do this
I agree that the lancer does need some kind of nerf to compensate, but it makes me sick to see all the people who think that now the HB is 'weak' or 'useless', and are on a high horse because it is not an automatic rifle, so they believe it is much higher skilled. Newsflash: I use the HB in TDM and absolutely rape with it, more-so than I do with the lancer in TDM. I'm not particularly skilled with it, it's easy to fire it fast and keep your aim near a person. HB is still insanely strong.
I think stopping power isn't needed for how powerful rifles are in gears 3. Was needed in gears 2 (and 1 but wasn't in so we saw what happened with gnashers of war) but now you can easily down someone from decent distances and if they're too close you should *have* to change to shottie rather than have the rifles as they are. Right now it's far to easy to get good scores using lancer at all ranges
Did you get absolutely crushed the first week while using the alternate control scheme? Cuz that's how long I tried it for and I wasn't getting the hang of it.
@HarbingerMonkey no I believe I showed gameplay from my first couple weeks using it. My movement was sloppier but I could still slay people fairly easy.
i would definitely like to see how Gears 3 plays with no stopping power for any guns...considering that all the rifles are rediculously powerful even without stopping power, I think it could work quite well.
Yea I re-played 2:28-2:31 because that was a really good angle, I'm really leaning towards buying a razer onza controller and switching to alternate.
@arCtiCvBi From the spectators point of view, they play with Stopping Power in ranked, but watch competitive gameplay and see no stopping power. Do you think the casual spectator would look down upon "MLG" players because they use different settings? I just don't see Epic making the no SP on lancer change gamewide, they'd probably only create an option or put it in Alpha.
@RobZGod to be honest i don't think they would notice too much so no I can't see it hurting the community if it were Alpha only. You have to remember some players don't even know what SP is or does and there are a number of people that don't even realize it's gone from the HB and Retro
,as a recently new gears player, i think this is gonna make more new players get frustated. If, wallbouncing and using a gnasher only is and i quote, "skillz" for you guys, i might be thinking twice of playing gears. People want to have a good time playing, not seeing a kid's character move like he has been transfused Red Bull into his body. Its my angle to all this. Im glad they removed SP for HB and Retro, but taking SP out of lancers is gonna leave us shit out of luck cus not many ppl use GS
@stefanarak Well yeah, but if your a good player, you can overcome that. What i feel is that they (Epic games) want ppl to go to play gears, but at the same time, they are making it more difficult so that said new people come and play. So now, u got in one hand awesome veterans and in the other u got rookies (myself included). These veterans will destroy us cus we are without experience. The Lancer is all we got, and we still get turned on...So its gonna suck to a whole new level.. :(
@AzzanHD I'd say it's a toss up between what annoys me more in the Lancer or HB. The HB needs a fire rate cap and the Lancer needs a nerf in dmg or less in the magazine.
The fair thing would have been to remove it from all the ARs but it's yet another nerf for the hammerburst and nothing still has been done about the ridiculousness of the Lancer. They consistently nerf things that are difficult to use and make the easy stuff easier. Doesn't really matter though. I don't expect much from Gears 3. I play it maybe once a month. It's a real shame to especially since I put in over 100 days in Gears 2. Gears 3 could've been a masterpiece
i just think all the rifles should get nerfed, but keep stopping power. The hammerburst is ridiculously OP and an active lancer is no different. Personally im tired of people relying solely on their rifles for their close range battles when im trying to battle them with my gnasher. im not saying that you cant kill a rifle user with your gnasher, i just feel it makes more entertaining gameplay when its gnasher on gnasher.
why didnt they do it to the gnasher as well. also taking away stopping power is awesome, adds a little more balance to all the super powerful lancers and hammerbursts
Stopping power is fucking stupid and should be completely removed. All the rifles should receive a damage nerf as well, but the retro and hammy should get the biggest reduction in damage. Even after all that the rifles will still remain very powerful and play an important role to any good team. Get beasted, nubs!
i did notice yesterday when someone was charging me that my hb wasnt stopping them but it was a really lag game so i thought maybe it was the lag. the gun they need to remove it from is the lancer, i fuckin hate that gun more than the sawed off.
I think the lancer shouldent have stopping power it will make the game more fluid
grabnar24productions 1 week ago
Stopping power removed = shotgun rushing all day. I rather feel assured that I am slowing down a charging rhino instead of hoping to down it. Wallbouncing pros will definitely benefit from that.
Omn1bl4z3 2 weeks ago
or a gametype with 0 stopping power
jlucky226 2 weeks ago in playlist More videos from arCtiCvBi
How about a weekend event with NO STOPPING POWER FOR ANY WEAPONS to see what happens
jlucky226 2 weeks ago in playlist More videos from arCtiCvBi
Hey Arctic, in regard to your recent wallbouncing endeavors, I'm wondering if you've seen PharNico's (Nicodemusx0) gnasher/wallbouncing montage. I stumbled across it one day and was absolutely blown away by the sheer amount of speed and control he has over his bounces. I felt that I was a fairly proficient player in Gears, and afterwards I felt that the bar in skill has been raised. If you've watched it, I'd like to hear your thoughts. If not, then please give it a look!
tdofredo 3 weeks ago in playlist Running Ranked
@tdofredo Skyllus was equally amazed, and has since then switched his scheme to Alternate, because of that video. Skyllus commented on it to let him know it was because of him.
SteveJonesOwnsDSP 2 weeks ago
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I think my nza is broken cuz I cant hit walls back to back consistently even tapping my rmfb a billion times. Oh and I didn't know the hammerburst had stoping power.
ItsCaboosy 3 weeks ago
Next EPIC games is going to make the "Oneshot" two shots -_-
IzzyDaShutgunNwb 3 weeks ago
should've taken it off the lancer and increased the fire rate.
Thekillerpiano1 3 weeks ago
@MrJLRtv we all want to try out for zYn lol
lesserlotus 4 weeks ago
wait, retro had stoping power? I never notice / knew that.
lesserlotus 4 weeks ago
@Tesla9209 no, I do have to take it off the right stick to press A.
oxenpoxen 4 weeks ago
Arctic, can I try out for zYn? Gamertag: cBu JLR
MrJLRtv 4 weeks ago
i think a majority of the community is upset (including myself) feel that if your going to remove it take it away from all rifles.
rchrdguerra4 4 weeks ago in playlist Running Ranked
I like stopping power because it's there to punish people for making a dumb move. However I do believe 100% that it should be removed from competitive play so an on off switch would be nice. I think the balance they have now for public is good.
FiveGuysOneTuba 4 weeks ago
Epic needs to tell people in the main menu of the game about changes like this.
IJUSTENDEDU 4 weeks ago
arctic: I use the alternate control scheme and often when I try to bounce to a wall that I am DEFINITELY within range of, nothing happens. does your camera have to be aiming at the wall to bounce to it? cause from what I see of your gameplay, it doesn't, but when I play gears, something seems seriously wrong. is it just cause I don't have an onza? it gets me killed a lot because I try to do an initial bounce but my character does nothing and I'm a sitting duck. any inuput you might have?
oxenpoxen 4 weeks ago
@oxenpoxen I'm fairly sure you do. Might go pick up a replacement Xbox and try it today. Missing the crap out of Gears. I'll test it for you if I get an Xbox today.
MrShyguy0 4 weeks ago
@MrShyguy0 I appreciate it. just looking for a little outside input.
oxenpoxen 4 weeks ago
@oxenpoxen You do need to be aiming at the wall to bounce to it.
MrShyguy0 3 weeks ago
@MrShyguy0 @oxenpoxen objection ! at some situations you don't need to be aiming at the wall you want to bounce to. example: you're in a corridor (the walls are relatively close to you) and you're getting shot. WHILE aiming at the guy and shooting him, you can hold your left stick to the wall you want to bounce to and just press the A, but look it just works when you are "close" to the wall, if you're kinda far, you'll just roll. for a visual proof, search it on arctic's videos
iRLYdonotcare 1 week ago in playlist Running Ranked
A rare team change from you guys. You along with Cali, Phobos, and Skyllus have been together for about 2 years I think if I'm not mistaken. Still, picking up Cream is killer mover. :) Can't wait to see how you guys will do in any upcoming Gears event. BTW, they should remove it from Retro permanently. That gun is powerful enough at close range.
supersonic721 4 weeks ago in playlist More videos from arCtiCvBi
See i could care less about stoping power, i use the hammerburst and retro and i havent seen a real noticable change, i still drop guys like its my job at a distance with the hammerburst and i still use the retro to set up my gnasher kills when needed I could care less if anything it evens the playing field if you use the lancer, i use retro for certain situation and maps and hammerburst for certain situations and maps so idk i kinda like it
MMODism 4 weeks ago
I don't care too much about the Retro but thank you Epic for nerfing the Hammy fuck this is Gears not CoD now these HB scrubs gotta grow some balls and get some CQC skill with the Gnasher instead of sitting back all damn game
MetalliTrivium 4 weeks ago
well the thing is that because of the sawed off the whole game was ruined because stopping power has to be there for it otherwise even with its range nerfs and everything it will just dominate everyone
MrBeauJango 4 weeks ago
As a long time Retro user, the lack of stopping power is incredibly annoying. There's almost no point to using it over the Lancer anymore, as any Gnasher/SO user can just rush before they get downed now. It's obvious they're trying to appease the Gnasher users by nerfing anything that can counter it, but this is just getting stupid now.
Killer7Samurai 1 month ago 5
@Killer7Samurai Agreed completely, the Retro is kinda losing its purpose.
tomhet 4 weeks ago
@Killer7Samurai yer i mean im a gnasher user but even i think that they didnt nerf it right either but the retro is still a noob weapon anyway you put it, litreally downs in less than a second at effectove range soo i dno but they could have nerfed it in a less hindering way
MrBeauJango 4 weeks ago
@MrBeauJango And the Gnasher gibs you instantly in its effective range. How is that any different? The entire point of the Retro was to be the close-to-mid range rifle. Without stopping power, it loses its edge in its own range category. There's no reason to use it over the Lancer, since an active Lancer will down almost as fast, AND slow their rush. This would be like making the Gnasher unable to gib, and unable to down in one shot. It would completely destroy the point of the gun.
Killer7Samurai 4 weeks ago
@Killer7Samurai yer but the retro shouldn't even be in the game anyway i'm sure they could have spent more time actually thinking about a good starting rifle that actually had a good role without being piss easy to use and clearly a crutch for bad players
MrBeauJango 4 weeks ago
@Killer7Samurai aww your sad you cant use a rifle in CQC? poor baby.
rchrdguerra4 4 weeks ago in playlist Running Ranked
@rchrdguerra4 Seeing as it's supposed to be a CQC rifle, I'm frustrated that they decide to ruin what it's good at. If it has no stopping power, it either needs to be more accurate, which would horrible balance-wise, or it needs to do more damage to compensate. I'd also like to add that the only reason they removed its stopping power was because Gnasher "babies" were "sad" that they couldn't rush blindly through a hail of bullets and win anymore.
Killer7Samurai 4 weeks ago
@Killer7Samurai gnahser babies that couldnt rush blindly through hail of bullets.....for one to use a gnasher it requires skilll,,,yu can use a gnasher in many different scenarios,,while a retro lancer the only thing you really must know how to do is aim down properly so yu can reduce the recoil an get a kill...retro lancers does not require skill what so ever,,even someone new to the game can use it..generally scrubs if yu want a tip on how to stop people with a gnasher learn how to be better
DRXPrOtege 3 weeks ago
@Killer7Samurai retro is more powerful then the gnasher at close range thats what makes it unfair
SuperGhoulman 3 weeks ago
@Killer7Samurai learn how to shotgun
Tightness8 3 weeks ago
If you use retro, you're gay. Bring back GoW1 game play
AirforceK1 1 month ago
@AirforceK1 yer just a fact
MrBeauJango 4 weeks ago
Let me try for your team :)
xXTheoNeXxPR 1 month ago
They should not remove it from any o the rifles they should just weaken the hammerbusrt a little. And they should remove stopping power from the scorcher.
HLGBagBunny 1 month ago
I actually used the retro today, and didn't notice anything different....
pyrof7 1 month ago
How do i watch your show?
MriBustos 1 month ago
bro i cant tell. people still get me down like stopping power is still there.
Boonesquad123 1 month ago in playlist Running Ranked
What happened to Cali again?
LordVerdo 1 month ago
i dont get it. what exactly is stopping power??
WhiteSwaggg 1 month ago
@WhiteSwaggg when getting shot with an assault rifle/rapid fire weapon, stopping power is the thing that slows you down.
aranyouover 1 month ago
i hate my no stoping power hammy. i need it to take out those sawed off loser. without it im hopeless. however in a game without sawed offs i dont noticed it at all
MrMetsmanathan1998 1 month ago
so in mlg you could switch games?
thejanitorssuccess 1 month ago
... well while Epic's at it, they should take out the fucking sawed off too because that's annoying as hell...
awang5594 1 month ago
out of curiosity how did you find/made ur team/team players? Did you know them personally for some time or something? just curious
FlamingDistro 1 month ago
Give stopping power to retro and take it away from lancer.
OneBarrGames 1 month ago
@OneBarrGames LMAO. You must be terrible at the game.
iMassacre617 1 month ago
Actually now someone can run straight at me in the open (from a relative short distance) with a shotgun while I'm defending the ring or whatever and using the Hammerburst, and kill me. That wouldn't happen with stopping power. Not a big deal that it was removed, but I don't think that should happen.I don't think removing stopping power entirely is good idea (maybe reduce/tweak it). Even cliffyB said SP was gonna stay.
Just my opinion.
I don't use the retro so can't say anything about that gun.
Pulletlamer 1 month ago
I mostly use the Hammerburst and I honestly didn't even notice. I agree that it would be interesting to see how much gameplay changed with the Lancer stopping power removed too. I think it would really increase movement, especially against teams in TDM that only use lancers :/
dudewithavideocamera 1 month ago 7
Leave SP in, without it, ShotgunFeast! I agree with you about on/off switch for ppl that want it. My shotgun skills(firing from the hip) are not great, if not average, so I tend to favour the rifles.
trey2823 1 month ago
I feel and see the difference in the Hammer Burst and Retro with no Stopping Power. The guns all most feel broking.There still strong but takes more perfect Aiming to kill someone with them. I think is should be reduce and maybe not turned off all together. I'm glad there letting us try it out anyway.
iiiweap0nxiii 1 month ago
is this a joke? The lancer being the Most OP in my opinion..,the clip is practically unlimited the active is ridiculously OP and then the stopping power? Id really have NO prob with it if it werent for the stopping on the lancer. and i agree..the hammerburst didnt have much SP unless u were rushing them head on...which would be your fault. and the retro seemed needed to me ...
Hype3rshadow 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Hype3rshadow With the hb boost in damage + it's amazing ar until the update it was the best gun in the game imo
SwagSoSickRick 1 month ago
@SwagSoSickRick The HB active reload only makes the down 1 shot less, from 8 to 7.
Also it didn't receive any boost in damage, it's just their long-range damage reduction penalties were removed, which means you do the same damage at all distances (that's how it should be for a long range weapon).
Get your facts straight.
Pulletlamer 1 month ago
I think the retro should have Stopping power only with active. hammerburst is perfect now. and take it away from the lancer.
AdamDizzz 1 month ago
I would like to see the lancer reduced a little. 60 bullets +plus HS bonus + Active bonus is a tad overpowered. maybe a 15% overall reduction.
FULLxTIMExHITMAN 1 month ago
my hammy never seemed to have stopping power. Everyone with a sawed off or gnasher that charged me seemed to be unafected by my shots always
L337Hoodi3Ninj4 1 month ago
I use the lancer but the lancer is OP if you think about it. It has a crazy clip, strong active, headshot multiplier and it keeps stopping power.
Off1c1allyMe 1 month ago
Remove stopping power from everything!
xXShonomercyXx 1 month ago
I agree, they should take the stopping power off the Lancer since it is the most used rifle in the Game. The clip is ridiculously long and it is very strong, so there is no need for it to have stopping power on top of all of that IMO.
CookielMonsterr 1 month ago
.....that last kill was filthy
thetruth34o9 1 month ago
oh wait, lancer still has it? then its all good.
SoldierM7 1 month ago
wtf is this shit? If you want no stopping power, go play gears 1 or 2. Without stopping power, you can play like an idiot and still win, which is stupid.
SoldierM7 1 month ago
@SoldierM7 facepalm...
PanchoLovesBoobies 1 month ago
I use the hammy and I'm happy with the nerf. They just need to remove it from the lancer now.
TehBrave 1 month ago
nice game
superamishguy 1 month ago
Oh boo hoo Sawed of this Sawed off that. Suck it up and just play the damn game besides the sawed off is not soo prevalent these days.
youGotslapped100 1 month ago
Epic is trying too hard to make this an assault rifle depending game, but it's really not. That's not what Gears is, it's all about the shotguns.
NikeHead20 1 month ago
Ha I got my account un banned. I proved that I didn't use hacks and they let me play online again. Arctic baby see you online. Whoa!!! :D Cole train runs on whole grain!
oXBeatFreakoX 1 month ago
i worry that removing stopping power is making the sawed off more viable
Kneezerz 1 month ago
Nice to hear about Cream! Is there a way to dl just the audio for active reload so I can listen to it like a podcast?
TeamIslas 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Sick final kill. Well done.
acam3445 1 month ago
i think the lancer without stoppiong power is kinda ussless but who knows might be same without stopping power but the think is that the lancer with stopping power helps me deal with retro and sawed-off
marcus84mtl 1 month ago
@arCtiCvBi I look forward to your wallbouncing to come. I switched to alternate and bought an onza this week. Hopefully it works out for the best.
Unexcelledone 1 month ago
@pharnico Your video made me switch to alternate. I'm nowhere near your level yet but I'm starting to get the hang of it. I still don't know how you bounce down thrashball staircases as I find it's too wide apart but good job.
Unexcelledone 1 month ago
Are your settings still the same
ChrisyChris24 1 month ago
i feel lk they should just take out SP from all of the rifles because i usually play alpha anyway and gears has always been about the shotgun and thats what i love. the rifles are strong without SP anyway.
WordsWithStrangers 1 month ago
if phobos does bf3 any chance we can see some bf3 gameplay? :)
dizzygunner 1 month ago
Stopping power being gone didn't really effect how many deaths/kills I got from or by rifles. What did happen is I was no longer yelling "bullshit" when someone shot me down with the hammy. It's really frustrating to be trying to evade and not being able to go anywhere, but without stopping power you know they deserved the kill.
caramelzappa 1 month ago
Glad those dirty sawed-off people went back into their caves. How's the lag? I'm gonna head back on now that i'm not using wireless anymore
aznhobo465 1 month ago
Using a normal controlle type, the wallbouncing is more fast.
Toooooga 1 month ago
dont mess with the stopping power for the lancer. the guy is weak as hell without an active already, and w/o SP, its no good as a support weapon
k0d14k1 1 month ago
So I switched back to "Regular" control scheme to see if you could grab walls further away....
And I think this is a misconception... Maybe you should test that theory.... but from my 2 min test... you grab walls at the exact same distance and with alternate you do nothing where you would roll with the regular.
PharNico 1 month ago
@PharNico i speculated rolling is what happened but i havent directly tested it. Might be good to show in a vid to the naysayers
arCtiCvBi 1 month ago
@arCtiCvBi i see why my retro was a lil weak but i know how to aim and blind fire with it raam need to be fix hes too big hes so easy to hit pls reform players about that too
trexhunter890 1 month ago
@PharNico totally agree with you it's seem in regular you can grab walls far away I don't know why :x
H1pHopLover 4 weeks ago
I can see why having stopping power removed from competitive stand point could be viable, but I kind of like stopping power across the board for all the rifles. It just makes sense if someone is getting shot that they wouldn't be able to move as quick. I suppose that line of thinking is just from being accustomed to playing with SP for so long. It would be interesting to see how a zero stopping power play list would turn out.
MuramasaSquid 1 month ago
Yeah dissappointed they took SP out of the retro. It was what I would switch two on certain maps if the Sawed-off was killing me a lot. Now that counter to the Sawed-off doesn't really work the same. Overall I like the idea of taking out SP though (like with all rifles). It would allow for greater mobility and more exciting gnasher gameplay I think.
nyyankee798 1 month ago
they should completely take out stopping power like in gears 1
xxDUSTYMONKEYxx 1 month ago
As a Hammerburst user I don't care if there is no stopping power cause Hammerburst is meant to be a long range weapon and that is how I use it. Now the Retro, I barely use it cause I am really bad with it, but I think it should keep the stopping power, the range is pretty short for a rifle and close quarters should be Retro's specialty.
GOWAzure 1 month ago
just look at the final kill of the match, nice bouncing and turning around.. good game
kgollam 1 month ago
retro never needed to be in the game so i'm glad they took out stopping power, the hammerburst down's in like 7 bullets so there is no need for stopping power. Now if they remove the stopping power on the lancer and tone down the gnashers range this game could truly be the best game i have ever played.
FantasyGoW 1 month ago
EVERY EPISODE reminds me why I love following you! You are saying exactly what I think! The hammerburst is soooo OP! I am trying to get Onyx for my retro and they have made that gun so much worse than it used to be...This multiplayer is not the same as it was months ago...sometimes too much change is not a good thing. ALOT of people I used to play with quit because this is not the same game it was in September...and I agrre with their complaints...Keep up the good work!
17777777frost 1 month ago
I dont know about you, but I'm getting a lot of sawed-offs users in Team Deathmatch lately... I know you mostly played ranked, but is it just the quick match thats possibly causing this?
MrTwinkies2010 1 month ago
I would like to see the stopping power on the rifles stay as they were. There have been times when it has saved many of my lives while being rushed.
Inuyushi 1 month ago
This explains a lot. I didn't know that Stopping Power was removed but I felt it lastnight. Thought my connection was funny as gnasher rushers were just waltzing through my retro fire. I don't mind it just would have been nice for some announcement or something so I could have atleast adjusted my play.
JoseFza 1 month ago
stopping power for the hammy and retro are not needed. however for the lancer I can see why they have it. some people just don't use the shottys that much. also with the lancer in gears 3 I actually have a reason to use it instead of running always with my gnasher.
weazer21 1 month ago
what's your sensitive?
Danimals56 1 month ago
I mostly use lancer but when I use hammer they run up to with sawd off its bs.remove sawd off.
xxmikeromeo88888 1 month ago
@kyle455645 the guns are smaller on clayton carmine/recruit because he is a bigger person in the virtual world if you took a look at augustus cole he has the same problem aswell and he is a musculer character aswell as the two carmines
TheChumbawumba23 1 month ago
Can't wait to see some crazyass wallbouncing
Z1CC4 1 month ago
Honestly alternate is easier in my opinion. A lot of times playing on default controls, i made a lot of mistakes caus of every command being on A but alternate eased it up by moving roadie run and evade to X. People need to stop complaining about something thats better then the old one
JayCross454 1 month ago
yes haha i laugh at the faggy hb modded controller scrubs
StriVeV1 1 month ago
Stopping power needs to stay. I can understand the hammy losing it by nature of its supposed to be a long range, single shot weapon on top of the fact that it's already so powerful, but the gameplay mechanic itself aids to add another layer of strategy to the game that I would hate to see removed. I think the power level of the rifles are just about perfect. Dont take us back to a shotguns only game.
ZombieFlanders4073 1 month ago
@ZombieFlanders4073 Well said, I completely agree. People already resort to Gnasher combat so often in the game as is. I like having stopping power on all the rifles. Even if I get slapped by it. I shouldn't have been exposed.
MuramasaSquid 1 month ago
I'm a fan of stopping power removed from both HB and Retro - they're remarkably powerful guns. The non-active Lancer is at a serious disadvantage compared to them. Even with an active, it's still between the two. So, I'm not a fan of taking away the stopping power entirely. That said, the active Lancer might be better balanced without the boost to SP.
transience 1 month ago
removing the stopping power only benefits the sawed off players
jmotarmz 1 month ago
The only problem I see is sawed-off shotguns wont be stopped as easily by rifles anymore. But it is what it is. And its amazing how you never really run into them in your videos. I'm always in a match with at least 1 sawed-off shotgun user and they all play the same: Hide around a corner and wait for someone to come by.
afterburn819 1 month ago
Your sensitivity is still on 18 12 11?
DcomeDadde 1 month ago
Also Arctic, why do you think both regular Clayton and Recruit Clayton have tiny guns? those gun sizes are about the size of Anya's guns if i'm not mistaken.
Kyle455645 1 month ago 2
@Kyle455645n probably a coding error but i never noticed honestly
arCtiCvBi 1 month ago
@arCtiCvBi Yeah, it was a coding error. I wouldn't know how epic would screw that up.
MrShyguy0 1 month ago
@Kyle455645 The tiny guns on Clayton are to apparently put emphasis on his huge size.
Vexxxta 1 month ago
Is the goal of these patches in Gears 3 to bring gears back to Gears 1? Or maybe a gears 1 / gears 3 hybrid. The only problem i foresee with possibly removing stopping power from the game completely would be a little gun called the sawed off... i can only imagine the frustration of starting to lancer down a sawed-off user only to have him bum-rush the shit out of me and blow me away.
Kyle455645 1 month ago 2
@Kyle455645 haven't seen too many sawed-off users these days
arCtiCvBi 1 month ago 4
@arCtiCvBi if a team is getting owned in ranked king they don't all pull out sawed offs on you? can i please get into your lobbys? lol
Kyle455645 1 month ago
@arCtiCvBi They're all over the place in Ranked KotH. My team was getting run over by full teams of SoS users all night.
AutoPsychotic 1 month ago
@arCtiCvBi Plus, when you do you probably show them why the Gnasher is superior, I know I do. ^ ^
RavenouslyDead 1 month ago
@arCtiCvBi in quick match there's hordes
10maxch 1 month ago
@arCtiCvBi i hate to say but ever since the map pack i fell the sawed off got an un Nerfed and there on the rise again
tsr2494 1 month ago
that was one sexy ending
scaleeater 1 month ago
Bring back Calinorth and Orange!
LiquidWarriorWWE 1 month ago
Well arctic if you want to know the boundaries of wallbouncing on alternate i will send you a video of me wall bouncing when i get my cap card setup in the near future.
ControIz 1 month ago
I get the feeling that alternate has a shorter wall slide distance as well.
SinisterWaffles 1 month ago
Some nice changes coming to your team.
GuNStArHeRo212 1 month ago
To me, It's not so much the fact that SP is gone from the Hammy / Retro, its now the gap between the Lancer and the other two guns (again) that annoys me.
The reason the Hammy was buffed in the first place was that the Lancer completely outclassed it and it's starting to look like things might go that way again now. I just dont see enough reason to use the Hammy over the Lancer apart from the Onxy medal.
GnasherSabbath 1 month ago
@arctyc do you think the alternate controls have been more beneficial since you switched or do you see yourself going back to default?
DERPbros 1 month ago
@arCtiCvBi I'm a hammerbust user and I think that if they remove the stopping power on those 2 rifles they should have done it to all, the lancer is probably the most powerful of all n with head modifier it ain't fair if they gonna level the playing field they should do it right.
Josez1212 1 month ago
@Josez1212 True, and they should re-add the head multiplier to the hammy or remove it from the lancer. Hammy would be superior in every regard IMO if it had SP and a head multiplier.
RavenouslyDead 1 month ago
lol at 5:00 I was like, I sure hope that's a friendly mortar
omgqwerty082 1 month ago
@omgqwerty082 i was so upset when that killed me
arCtiCvBi 1 month ago
slow clapped at the last headshot.
obuyetusksequalswhat 1 month ago
@SenorSpotless Why do you need an Onza to switch to alternate?
ImCrimzon 1 month ago
losing stopping power on the hammy and retro is a dick move, the retro is literally useless now. the whole point of it was for newer players to compete at close range, now it just wont. they nerfed it once, and now theyre doing it again so its just way underpowered now. they should lower the recoil now if theyre going to do this
GetTheFunkOut46 1 month ago
im a hammerburst user and looking forward to seeing how it is without stopping power
SilentMerk 1 month ago
I agree that the lancer does need some kind of nerf to compensate, but it makes me sick to see all the people who think that now the HB is 'weak' or 'useless', and are on a high horse because it is not an automatic rifle, so they believe it is much higher skilled. Newsflash: I use the HB in TDM and absolutely rape with it, more-so than I do with the lancer in TDM. I'm not particularly skilled with it, it's easy to fire it fast and keep your aim near a person. HB is still insanely strong.
stefanarak 1 month ago
I think stopping power isn't needed for how powerful rifles are in gears 3. Was needed in gears 2 (and 1 but wasn't in so we saw what happened with gnashers of war) but now you can easily down someone from decent distances and if they're too close you should *have* to change to shottie rather than have the rifles as they are. Right now it's far to easy to get good scores using lancer at all ranges
KungFuLeper92 1 month ago
Did you get absolutely crushed the first week while using the alternate control scheme? Cuz that's how long I tried it for and I wasn't getting the hang of it.
HarbingerMonkey 1 month ago
@HarbingerMonkey no I believe I showed gameplay from my first couple weeks using it. My movement was sloppier but I could still slay people fairly easy.
arCtiCvBi 1 month ago
i would definitely like to see how Gears 3 plays with no stopping power for any guns...considering that all the rifles are rediculously powerful even without stopping power, I think it could work quite well.
noscopeentertainment 1 month ago
Crream and damage points would be awesome, hope it all works out
25Clyke 1 month ago
hey artic what´s your sensitivy?
PORTITOEST 1 month ago
im sick......
seanmd131 1 month ago
Retro w/ no Stopping Power is awesome
DirectorRico 1 month ago
Yea I re-played 2:28-2:31 because that was a really good angle, I'm really leaning towards buying a razer onza controller and switching to alternate.
SenorSpotless 1 month ago
Do you think making Stopping Power an Alpha only deal would turn casual players off much like changed weapon swaps did?
RobZGod 1 month ago
@RobZGod I'm kind of misunderstanding what you're asking? If SP is an Alpha only deal it wouldn't turn off casuals?
arCtiCvBi 1 month ago
@arCtiCvBi From the spectators point of view, they play with Stopping Power in ranked, but watch competitive gameplay and see no stopping power. Do you think the casual spectator would look down upon "MLG" players because they use different settings? I just don't see Epic making the no SP on lancer change gamewide, they'd probably only create an option or put it in Alpha.
RobZGod 1 month ago
@RobZGod to be honest i don't think they would notice too much so no I can't see it hurting the community if it were Alpha only. You have to remember some players don't even know what SP is or does and there are a number of people that don't even realize it's gone from the HB and Retro
arCtiCvBi 1 month ago
Haha this is gonna affect koth since it's just retros and hammies
TheTorrevolution 1 month ago
,as a recently new gears player, i think this is gonna make more new players get frustated. If, wallbouncing and using a gnasher only is and i quote, "skillz" for you guys, i might be thinking twice of playing gears. People want to have a good time playing, not seeing a kid's character move like he has been transfused Red Bull into his body. Its my angle to all this. Im glad they removed SP for HB and Retro, but taking SP out of lancers is gonna leave us shit out of luck cus not many ppl use GS
Stratobird25 1 month ago
@Stratobird25 I know but.. the lancer is still extremely powerful.
stefanarak 1 month ago
@stefanarak Well yeah, but if your a good player, you can overcome that. What i feel is that they (Epic games) want ppl to go to play gears, but at the same time, they are making it more difficult so that said new people come and play. So now, u got in one hand awesome veterans and in the other u got rookies (myself included). These veterans will destroy us cus we are without experience. The Lancer is all we got, and we still get turned on...So its gonna suck to a whole new level.. :(
Stratobird25 1 month ago
@AzzanHD I'd say it's a toss up between what annoys me more in the Lancer or HB. The HB needs a fire rate cap and the Lancer needs a nerf in dmg or less in the magazine.
arCtiCvBi 1 month ago
wallbouncing involved skill... sitting there with an active lancer does not.
kankouro82 1 month ago
@ahlvinf exactly my opinion....
xDrMs2 1 month ago
People that say GoW1 was a Gnasher fest never played Gears Of War 1 competitive
VideoFletcher 1 month ago
@VideoFletcher so most people then... the majority. If the majority think it was a gnasher fest, it probably was. I thought it was.
boxy2k8 1 month ago
@VideoFletcher yeah it's always been Lancer heavy gameplay in competitive
arCtiCvBi 1 month ago
The fair thing would have been to remove it from all the ARs but it's yet another nerf for the hammerburst and nothing still has been done about the ridiculousness of the Lancer. They consistently nerf things that are difficult to use and make the easy stuff easier. Doesn't really matter though. I don't expect much from Gears 3. I play it maybe once a month. It's a real shame to especially since I put in over 100 days in Gears 2. Gears 3 could've been a masterpiece
ThaLouisianaKid 1 month ago
i just think all the rifles should get nerfed, but keep stopping power. The hammerburst is ridiculously OP and an active lancer is no different. Personally im tired of people relying solely on their rifles for their close range battles when im trying to battle them with my gnasher. im not saying that you cant kill a rifle user with your gnasher, i just feel it makes more entertaining gameplay when its gnasher on gnasher.
ahlvinf 1 month ago
Saw you guys playing last night was awesome!
tbkwolf 1 month ago
Never thought the zYn roster would change but now it's just you and Skyllus left, but then I thought the NSAN3z and GetB would stay together too.
InfuZedShaDoWz 1 month ago
why didnt they do it to the gnasher as well. also taking away stopping power is awesome, adds a little more balance to all the super powerful lancers and hammerbursts
mnfdsng 1 month ago
Stopping power is fucking stupid and should be completely removed. All the rifles should receive a damage nerf as well, but the retro and hammy should get the biggest reduction in damage. Even after all that the rifles will still remain very powerful and play an important role to any good team. Get beasted, nubs!
UltimateBeastMachine 1 month ago
i did notice yesterday when someone was charging me that my hb wasnt stopping them but it was a really lag game so i thought maybe it was the lag. the gun they need to remove it from is the lancer, i fuckin hate that gun more than the sawed off.
uknown786 1 month ago