Using a thermic lance to crack a safe

[mucbeanz]

why is it theres sooo many people that don't wear PPE?

[Icemandennis]

fucking retarded

[mfx1]

A so called "expert" who's wearing completely inadequate protection for using a thermic lance.

[BourneAccident]

I like those safety glasses he's wearing...

[johnofe]

they cut the video short so you wouldn't see how they totally BURNED everything inside :-)

[ThomasXp]

ok nvm haha it would all be ruined

[ThomasXp]

what would happen to the contents? Def ruined? or just a bunch of tards acting like they know some thing :p

[zbnmt5]

dont get me wrong its either if the relockers on a safe go this is probably your only chance to get a hole big enough to access anything. Lower rated safes and older ones can be grinded out with a small triangular pattern and many many carbide discs. Then peeling back the opening, other downside of the lance a portable one is like 3 grand. Cool vid though were goggles next time you maniac

[zbnmt5]

pretty much only thing that wont be destroyed are stones gold bars solid jewelry etc (hope theres no Van Gogh painting in there) but it will still all need to be cleaned and your platinums and silver and smaller gold will probably be damaged, check out the mythbusters where they reenact the safe crack from the score. Cutting the hole in the top with the lance really damages the items inside even before blasting the door open

[SanDiegoBabyBuddha]

Out of curiosity, as the lance penetrates, what would the interior fahrenheit temperature rise to? If you're penetrating a high security burg safe with an excellent fire rating, would the lance incinerate paper items inside?

[ShadowSora94]

@SanDiegoBabyBuddha I'm unsure how hot it'd get in general, but yeah, the lance would burn up everything inside.

Unless whatever is inside cannot melt period, it'd be extremely impractical to use a thermic lance for this.

[ScagSWZU]

its called a demo saw!!!

[jalobeaulieu1]

LIGHTSABER!!!!!!!!!!

[Riku72293]

I'd rather just get my Lockpicking up to 100

[ShadowSora94]

@Riku72293 Success reference is success

[Dragosanz]

I would be interested to know what grade certificate that safe has and what year it was certified?

[snappydoodad]

This is why I use magnesium sheathing in all my safes, and keep my ammo in lead pipes leaning on the sides. K*A*B*O*O*M. It makes it easy to catch the bad guys (or collect the pieces of them).

[kizahd]

@snappydoodad That is so cool...

[liddy85]

this vid should be called: how to burn the fuck out of the side of a safe. i saw no safe cracking nor opening in this vid.

[SuPrAmAd101]

point of cracking a safe when you fuck everything inside up? your opening it for now reason...

[lariwoo]

Now can you post the video where his thermic lance ignites the fireworks that were being stored inside....

[de0ndre]

All it would take is one bit of hot iron to come flying in his face and it would be all over. Not smart at all, plus the owner is going to be pissed off when he find a pile of ash where his money used to be. hahah

[gary7vn]

I always love to watch retards at work. Eye protection moron. Eye protection.

[ihaveairlockers]

No safety glasses, and the contents are GONE !!!

No safe engineer ever uses a thermic lance to open a safe.

[jradetzky]

don't burn the money

[MrDriftspirit]

lol, h does not using safety classes or smoke protection. a really safe cracker nut

[GeorgiaCountryBoyCan]

I love how people put these kind of videos on youtube

[FightersOfEve]

light sabre

[Spectre426]

I would encourage any and all thieves watching this to ALWAYS use this method. It's completely foolproof, and by far the best way to gain access to classified information.

[infiniti2006]

THERMIC FUCKING LANCE

[dw33b]

Gahh. That's a lunchbox, not a safe...

Rent a concrete saw and at least slice it into usable pieces. Also, NICE lack of face protection. Buy a twelve dollar Shade 5 shield and be much safer and more comfortable. No extra points for burning the lance down to the handle.

[woutereppink]

Sounds like dutch?

[TheJimineycricket]

Maybe hes wearing safety contact lenses :p

[TheBelldiver]

First off, this guy doesn't have enough O2 pressure, he doesn't know what he's doing or he would be wearing some type of glasses.

[TheBelldiver]

I don't understand people not using lenses when cutting with thermite. That is the brightest of all lights.

[YamahaGuy1991]

he didnt even crack it. just used a lance on it.

[social3ngin33rin]

so i'm guessing he has bad eye sight now!?!?

[ihaveairlockers]

Umm, i would never use a thermic lance to open a safe.....

The amount of time that it would be practical far outweighs the benefits and not to mention all the great damage you do to the safe and the contents. And the safe needs to be repaired. How many customers have a big cash or jewellery safe sitting in a BIG OPEN SHED WITH VENTILATION ?

Need i go on ??

Get yourself a good drill. eg, Fein KBM65Q and Bosch blue bits

There is a big difference between a tradesman and a craftsman.....

[abenewson]

haha yeah not a good way to open safe....everything gets destroyed

[lexichronicle2]

put a visor on! dammit!

[glxvc]

I think that is only an option at a safe as big as a room like in a bank. The money must be meters away from the door to not burn it.

[normenac9]

someone said, making the incision hole is easy, its not going to deep thats the hard part. this is true, with this method if you are inexperienced with a thermic lance, or thermite, then your best method would be 1. get the metal to a very weak state, then cool it with water. then use a sledge hammer to bash in the hole.

[Fangornmmc]

Haha funny people think that everything inside will burn...THAT is the entir clue to this method. Lancing your way in is not difficult lancing not to deep IS extremely difficult.

[allurbasearebelong]

what degree does money burn at?

[zacthebold]

451f

[Natan1300]

@allurbasearebelong Well you could just do it the boring way and get your stupid money, but that's not fun in the least :D!

[deagla2]

Resist the NWO, grow a herb/vegetable garden

[alaskaracer]

@deagla2 dont get the mercury laced flu shots either 

[deagla2]

@alaskaracer pretty much..or chew gum/imbibe things with aspartame for it was Donald Rumsfeld that got it put on the market.

[harrypotter9196]

@mitchtAy99. Win!!

[Shakeandbake4321]

because there are bolts (steel rods that hold the door shut) the hinges  just hold the door on when open . (all from wikiapedia)

[rami007002]

you fuck it mennn

[mitchtay99]

And everything inside will get vaporized

[killpath]

still a cool video :)

[ukandoittowithkandoo]

there is a device available that allows you to apply equal pressure to each side of the safe to split it then it is a simple case of prying it open .

[livingaboard]

that doesn't make any sense. A safe already has equal atmospheric pressure on the inside and outside. Safes are also not designed to hold pressure.

[thejordan01]

too bad everything inside gets fucking vaporised

[golden14]

1.) destroying the bolt may cause glass plate lockdown to shatter - resulting in no front door entry (eehhum!)

2.) You would not use this technique to cut into a safe unless it was a vault e..g. safety deposit boxes. where exterior door heat was dissipated.

3.) Thermic lance is ideally suited to cutting through a safe's solid concrete floor without triggering the alarm

4.) If the safe is timelocked even if the police are outside the door then if you used option 3 above then you get away

[uhclem]

Nice retinas

[supersmalls]

and why wouldnt u just go for destroying the bolt rather than cutting a hole in the wall???

[ForTehNguyen]

lance's heat is going to destroy the safes contents, same thing happened on mythbusters

[pushpush01]

where do you get one of these lances?

[ozzirt]

If you're too lazy to look it up, you certainly won't have the brains to work it.

[2000jago]

All I saw was a guy holding something hot against the side of the safe. Might have been nice to see what actually happens next...

[StinkingHombre]

What happens next is that the million dollars in greenbacks in the safe has been ignited by the heat.

[teller121]

@StinkingHombre Unless the bad guy knows you have precious metals inside and little or no cash. I doubt this lance will consume metals. And the owner, it appears from this vid, would be screwed in short order.

[flybywre]

first off, what will you do with your pea sized hole. cant put your hand through it. 2nd, you just torched everything inside. i could make a bigger bang with tnt or any explosive but what good does it do if i ruin the contents?

[dmh77yy]

You would then fill the safe with water and set of a small explosive through the hole which would destroy the safe opening it.

None of this would damage metals like gold bars, coins, stuff like that.

So yes this method would be very practical in some situations.

[lewko1]

Mythbusters tried that.

The safes weren't suitably watertight to begin with. Even when they sealed them, the resultant explosion would cause massive damage to the safe's contents.

[appppppppple]

not the most discrete method....

[staypuft]

ill get a magnesium lance from work. ive cut through brick with it.

[grouchosuave]

Zero in the way of a face shield, no IR 3 glasses, totally inadequate gear on (perhaps it's fire retardant nomex but that stilll is inadequate.)

What a jackass! Just asking to lose an eye and gain scars form ignited and molten steel.

[Methylcloroisothiaz1]

use thermite, that stuff goes through anything ...literally

[grouchosuave]

Thermite = uses a vessel = quite a different reaction/oxidation basis and a quite different application than a THERMIC (oxy) lance.

Ever since the 9/11 conspiracy an bullshit and popularization of Thermite everybody and their dog thinks they have something to say....

[BobCassidy]

Hahahahahahaha! You got that spot on!

[jimmyreinforcements]

The concrete is just an insulator to protect against the heat from a fire. Nothing will stop an oxygen lance but unless your breaking into a room size vault you're gonna barbeque the contents.

[bigb386]

theres ways around BBqing the contents

[tittytwister5251]

one small prob... if theres millions of pounds of notes in there... they wil catch fire...

[dogsdags]

plasma cutter better job for safes! but now that would be the job for say,,,, a armoured carrier van

[teller121]

@dogsdags How effective is it against a 7-ga. steel safe? And where is good place to go before I go out and pay $4,000 for a metal box that can be cut through by some kid who got fired from a safe store...and stole a plasma cutter on the way out the door...and my address from the rolodex.

[CaptCrewSock]

@teller121 That's what you get for doing business with a store that uses a Rolodex.

Say hi to Old Man McGregor for me will ya!!!

[ilovedher13]

Yah it would burn it up i did research and a thermic lance burns at 7,000 to 8,000 degrees farreinheight

[Intranetusa]

well, I guess you can use it to open a safe that's storing gold bullion. =)

[ComplexSuperiority]

lol, maybe if you want molten gold to seep out and solder your feet to the floor.

[KingOfGum]

VERY subtle

[deltaalpha21074]

Yeah real smart burn all the Money and gold and other shit in the safe geniuses ---try a Plasma cutter... Therma Dyne is my favorite.

[thestonedowl]

Geez i think an angle grinder would be way more affective

[popear1937]

no safety? this guy is a psycho

[filthyspigot]

A thermal lance is meant to be used to penetrate the hardplate ONLY. The softer layers are drilled.

[jacobssandy]

what do you mean the "hardplate"? I thought a safe was a solid thick wall of metal

[tedpm206]

Depending on the quality of the safe they are generally concrete wrapped with semi-thick to very thick metal.

[jacobssandy]

but why don't they just make them out of solid steel? or just leave it empty behind the metal? The concrete isn't any barrier really is it? You could just crack it off with a hammer to go inside. Isn't that just extra unncessary weight?

[michaeldjr22]

i could be wrong..maybe the extra weight is what they want....harder to just pick up and cart away perhaps?

[filthyspigot]

The actual lock basically the size of a pack of smokes is protected by a metal hardplate called a matrix. It takes a shitload of carbide bits to penetrate it.

[masterfufu1]

this is definitely an option in safe cracking, but kinda pointless because it incinerates everything inside!

[ComplexSuperiority]

i really hae no idea but shouldn't he be wearing some kind of eye protection?

[hearttobefelt]

He is the dumbest guy on earth .

Thermal lances will screw his eyesight and they also contain phosphorous so a high grade respirator is a must

[harlequin115]

Who told you a thermal lance contains phosphorous? It's basically just pure oxygen allowing an acetylene torch to ignite iron. No phosphorous involved....

[hearttobefelt]

harlequin , go educate yourself mate , Thermal lance core = Carbon 0.04 .Silicon 0.12 , manganese 0.45 , phosphorus 0.4 remainder iron

[lewko1]

Actuaully, hearttobefelt, if you are going to tell others to educate yourself, you may care to try some education yourself.

Thermic Lances are a a generic term for a steel pipe packed with mixed metal wires.

Pure oxygen gas is passed through the pipe from an oxygen tank.

The iron rods, are often mixed with aluminum or magnesium rods, however your percentages are simply one 'recipe' of many and harlequin115 was not wrong. Nor was he a douchebag.

[Scottde420]

i have 2 questions is that a plasma cutting tourch and wont that burn the bank notes inside?

[melbn]

stick with the drill bit!!!!!! str8 into the re lockers

[carlosmurphy4u]

Big fuckin deal!!!

[desinfector]

no safety-goggles?

[DeedVII]

And anything that was in the Safe (money for example) has just been turned to ash.

[rocaloro]

What about if the safe has some explosives inside or bullets . thats way there are professionals to get safe opens.

[nk73173]

who the hell would keep bullets and explosives in a safe? okay maby bullets but explosives wth

[rocaloro]

If you don't know the origen of the safe and you try to open in that manor (which is dangerus)obiously you don't know what's inside , some people keep some kind of explosives for "security reason" in safes.

[Gynecologist]

I keep several packs of C4 and such in mine.  It's completely normal.

[youngseandunn]

ever heard of a gun safe?

[digitalbroadcaster]

I keep seven WWII contact sea mines, three Exocet missiles, 48 hand grenades, 300 rounds of ammo, a loaded Sherman tank (c/w soldiers who are ready to go) a cheese sandwich and a full box of matches.

The matches would catch fire I suspect? LOL

[digitalbroadcaster]

PS-I don't even own a safe, let alone have enough money to put into it. :oD

[ksmithdc]

That's it. I'm telling the cops about your cheese sandwich. That's just COMPLETELY unacceptable.

[aarontume]

what a rough cunt - he has just got welding rods packed together blowing oxygen through it - how the hell did you get the door open

[BaphometKnows]

that is some safety outfit you got on

[Mrbang]

its a light sabour!!!

[longjohncider]

how good is that mans job

[wmashda3000]

i dont really suggest doing it that why because you will burn what ever is in the safe. simple as.

[fulibard]

hell a plasma cutter would work just as easy

[lordvader789]

well just so you know, when you do get it open you wont find anything but a bunch of slag pal, nothing would make it out

[halls4uall]

This would catch the interior on fire people.

[OMBIC]

that safe looks a lot like an atm safe and who the fuck would open 1 4 fun think about it ppl....

[StinkingHombre]

7,000 degrees farenheight, one hot mutha!

[UnknownBastard2007]

angle grinder will nothing but stratch the hell out of it, these things are contructed to be proofed by something as simple as an angle grinder

[bigdavesproule]

would a mag drill not be an easier way? would not create any heat either?

[bigdavesproule]

what way does that torch work? seems different from a normal oxyaccetelyne torch?

[SwampSlave]

Its simple. There is no acetylene as douro20 stated (its called oxyfuel because there are other fuels like propane). There is a large tube with rods in it,attatched to the tube,via hose,is the oxygen cylinder. Pure oxygen burns at an extremely high temperature. Theres some ignition flame then oxygen takes over. The lance can cut through eight feet of material,and its something around 6000C which burns through anything (boulders,steel,etc). Oxyfuel like oxyacetylene burns much lower than that.

[SwampSlave]

I hope you all enjoy the quick fact :]

[douro20]

He's using an oxyacetylene torch to cut through a safe. I wonder how well an oxystyrene torch would do.

[SwampSlave]

Looking closer, it does look like oxyfuel torch :\

I just noticed he is not wearing fire suit that you need to survive using thermic lance xP

Maybe its a mini thermal cutting outfit?

[Slimpickingsooooo]

Thats cool. I only wish it the video was longer.

[henrik2k]

yeah, way to make a tiny hole in a safe

[jkthecjer]

You are aware that all it takes is a tiny hole to get the other tools inside (boroscope, etc..) to finish the job, aren't you? Oh wait you weren't? Well, then do a little research before making sarcastic comments about topics of which you have little understanding.

[allthedownloads]

you should have used a angle grinder with a mettle cutting disc mate , it does the trick every time

[pauloz386]

I hope it's gold in that safe, otherwise you would be stuffed if it was cash!