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  • niceeee! :)

  • why do I feel hat my arms are doing most of the work? I do it exactlly as I"m shown here...

  • @ThEStArE94 are you using a shoulder width or closer grip? to use lats, you need to use a wide grip

  • @ThEStArE94 because the arms are the secondary muscle that are used.

  • i did it backwards... lol =\

  • Been to gym for 5 months. so glad i did it correctly. :D

  • thank u sir

  • this is soo hard to use... i tried this today but hope I will learn this in time...

  • This is just an eaiser version of a Pull up, but you usually tak the bar to back side not your chest if you know what I mean

  • i saw some champions doing behind the neck let pulldown like jay cutler, kai greene, rob riches... they are more professionals it means its not wrong to do behind the neck pulldown, coz it hits different angle of letmuss dorsi

  • THATS NOT THE PROPER WAY YOUR FUCKING IDIOT

  • @gamerhack why is not??:OO

  • will this help me do a pull up

  • @k39564 yes

    

  • @k39564 no

  • @atlasperros Yes it will, if you grow the muscle alongside other muscles needed to do pullups. Considering one's not obese.

  • i just stopped this in opposition to the stupid advert....

  • @nepatriots333 hahahhaha

  • doing lat pulls behind is fine as long as you keep your back straight and core tense. I've been doing both front and back lat pulls with that machine without any injury and proper technique. If you really want to do the back lat pulls, just do back pull ups. Gives you huge traps at the back

  • omg im from laurel springs too

  • Awesome Video!!!

    Check my page i just made a Pull UP Video!!!

  • Can you get better in chins by doing this?

  • @FrodeFlodhest Honestly, i don't think so. Chin ups require the help of the biceps alot more than the lats, if you want to get better at chin ups, do chin ups (or at least, supported chin ups like i do with the machine).

  • very useful, thank you

  • i am new to body building and what to ensure my tech is spot on , can any1 help me with this : there are many vids claiming to be the correct tech , this guys covers just about everything i think is correct but some say that you should look up at the bar in top posistion and keep that neck angle through the move?? can anyone advise?

  • @MrFirewall79 Well, i just started body building a week ago, and my personal trainer actually tells me to look up during this exercise, so yeah i hope that helps. In fact, he tells me to keep my back straight / look up for most exercises, unless the exercise actually involves you doing otherwise. This guy was just looking at the camera for the video's purposes.

  • @Mahasiah666

    There are lots of exercises where you can rep more weight if you do it with bad form, and you won't experience any pain in the short term, but you are putting far too much strain on fragile parts of your body which will eventually give out. Also, if you're doing it with a different form then you're not working the intended muscles as much, as those weaker parts are compensating.

    ...

  • See, perfect form. No injury, no muscle. Thanx again Expert Village.

  • If I get results like this guy looks, than F that! LOL!

  • why does expert village use accountants for their videos instead of atheletes

  • Charlie Sheen got buff....

  • just watched this video. bollocks.

  • g'day. a rooo roo. tooooodles.

  • @x1y1l1e1m This is incorrect. Front-pulling is not the "only" method. Pulling behind the back counts as a method. There could be worse ways to do it, it depends a great deal on anatomy.

  • How do you do it if you pull it to the back of your head. I mean the right thing to do. Tnx.

  • Thanks, This video helped. A lot of douchebags told me that the proper way is to tilt back while pulling. Pfft.

  • @xph0enixxx It's okay to tilt back, it depends on which function you're trying to work. Perfect vertical is more abduction focused, an arched back emphasizes extension.

  • @tyciol Love the info. Thanks bro.

  • /watch?v=0Pf-AWk9IeE watch it ;)

  • mrs i think i know everything. lol good i seen this vedio i was doing it wrong the whole time. something asle do you thake any preworkouts?

  • I like this exercise, that exercise is one of the bestr and favorite exercises in the gym, and you wanna hear something?... I lift and lower 36 kg in this machine, I working very hard for my back muscles and I am gonna prove it again and again and again, I have fucking boring machines in my gym, I had some things with the owner that biceps machine is good for some people in the gym and he doesn't accepted so i go to other gym.

  • @MotorCycle129 For how long have you been lifting? And how old are you?

  • @MotorCycle129 Really well said mate i totally understood what you meant. Very articulate. 

  • @slim240293 When you pull it behind your head, it causes a lot of stress on your shoulders and can lead to a shoulder injury. Certain people are able to perform it just fine, but its best not to take the risk. Plus if you are trying to work your lats doing the pulldown like demonstrated in this video works your lats much better!

  • @hdhock3y Why is it best not to take the risk? Exercise is always risk-taking to some degree. I think people should get strong using the less risky variation and once they are very strong and get a better sense of what is comfortable versus painful, then then could mess around and see how behind the back feels with a light lat pulldown.

  • Im so glad I came across these video's. Now I wont look like such a goof at the gym. I may have been doing some of these the wrong way.

  • @x1y1l1e1m So, pulling it behind isn't good at all? What muscles does that work? I'm asking because i used to be pulling it front and behind, please someone answer my question.

    Thanks for the video, i was doing it wrong... :D

  • @slim240293 It's dangerous if you do it wrong; the same way every single weight lifting exercise is dangerous if you do it wrong. If you do it with good form, and don't slap on too much weight (which is how must people hurt themselves) you'll be fine.

  • thumbs down for making watch advertisements

  • Nice Tecnique!!!

  • Thanks for the vid.

  • buzzy his names micheal angelo

  • Hey Mike Really great video, I agree.

  • @theawakener7

    One of the most asinine replies i've ever read, thanks for that.

    other than the typos and condescending tone, my favourite part of your response was how you didn't actually answer my questions.

    how about you? I assume you're not in your first couple of years of studying "some sort medical degree" or Sports Science

  • @theawakener7

    perhaps then, you'd like to fill in for him?

    please do explain the proper lumbar arch required for lat flexion, and the necessary ventilatory pattern

  • My personal trainer had me do this but it was my foremans that were feeling the burn,am I doing something wrong?

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  • No-one likes a geek mate, turn it in. He explained more than enough, and going into too much detail would confuse beginners.

  • don't go all the way down to the chest. unecessary stress on biceps

  • @nepatriots333 lol-hahahaha

  • Rowan?

  • iys so many in here who are fixated about who can lift the most weight, you got to work your way there, but form is very important, never forget that

  • i've seen some of his other videos and people are saying he is doing it wrong...so is he?

  • I do my lat pulls like this with 180lbs and always have people telling me my form is wrong

  • hmm ppl at my gym tells me to lean back a bit and pull down, but this seems correct and i can only do 90lbs x 10 good form

  • it should be natural when you lean back a bit. like when he pulls down in this video..he's leaning back a little not because he's thinking of doing it..but because it just comes natural to this exercise.

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  • @chinglis lil 12 year old baby go cry to your mama

  • i cant, i'm too busy fucking yours.

  • I do mma and weight training is somewhat good but you need to still do press ups sit ups chinups and pulldowns as well so you stay nice and free when your punching

  • when i use the lat pull machine i use 120 lbs , should i use that much or about 90 or more lbs.

  • @MazdaArai Uh... that's a completely individual question with absolutely no information about your personal fitness level provided. How would you expect anyone to answer that? If you are built like Arnold, you can pull 120 easily. If you are built like an 80 year old grandmother, you shouldn't be doing more than 5.

  • Im just asking if thats good or not , i am only 15 years old. Can you pull over 120 lbs?

  • Will this give the same results as chin ups? pullups?.

  • This will never EVER give the same results as a good chinup/pullup would. Remember: The more free your excercise is, the better.

  • chinups work biceps more

  • @buryy0urdead Well this aint a bicep workout, its a lat workout, latissimus doris to be specfic. All these kids obsessed with biceps.

  • @Raylet2 you're dumb. Read my comment.

  • Is 3x10 ok for this machine?

  • i tend to go 3x12

  • For those who might be having trouble feeling the lats in this exercise. Try to visualize a pull up, see if that helps.

  • your upper body should stay motionless and only rely on the lats to pull the weight. I find he's moving his upper body way too much in this excercise.

  • Why do I never feel it in my lats... I always feel this exercise in my inner forearms...

  • Well said.

  • It might be because of eccentric phase of exercise as you control back up, if you do this phase really slowly it will works your chest as well.

  • i was pulling it behind too lol

  • could you get the same results from a wide pull up

  • Absolutely dude, the only point to these is if you want to use less weight than their body weight.

  • yes, wide overhand pull up works ur lats. also look up "lat rows"

  • i just use a big turkey leg and than take a bite everytime, ive managed to grow my gut significantly...

  • I do it most of the time by pulling it behind my head almost touching my neck. would that work too?

  • theres differet reasons to do it better off doing it to te front the back can risk rotator cuff injury

  • If you want f*ck yourself up.

  • the reason why I do this is because that's how I do pull ups, and also because it helps to keep the back straight. I tend to lean a bit backwards when I do this in the way this guy showed.

  • no. lot of people do it but it is now found that is bad for your neck and spine. You should not do it.

  • It is. But you pull down not to pull back, right? Not just that, I also feel my chest at work. They even develop too. But not like that with the regular way.

  • Can you also pull down behind ones head??

  • yeah im wondering that too.. i see many who do it.

  • I guess you can, just gotta do it the right way. Seen ppl do it too...

  • No that messes up your shoulders.

  • mmmkay ,,, mmmkayy ,, like that principle from south park , haahhah

  • This also works to develop your chest right?

  • I find that squeezing the scapula together, sticking the chest out, and emphasizing the curve in the lower back before pulling the bar all the way down helps target the back and keep the arm involvement to a minimum.

  • Is it a big deal if you don't grip the bar where the bar curves?

    When I grip it, I grip it more towards the center where the bar is straighter.

  • I Felf my biceps were mostly doing the work...

  • thats maybe because your biceps are weaker that other muscles who are used in this exercise

    try to focus more on pulling down with your lats instead of forarms and biceps

    try it with lighter weight first to really isolate the muscle

  • That'll not work. To try lighter weight doesn't give me improvement. Plus, I'd been working-out my biceps for more than 3 years. I stopped working them out for they're too noticable. Their development is fast. Not just that, I think it's just normal for my biceps to get DOMS too quick just like my legs.

  • can anyone tell me how to do an ab workout with this machine of course u switch the grips to the knots but what is it called?

  • To work your back, get your legs just behind knees snugly under the support. Grab while still standing or slighly raised up. SLOWLY lower to just below the V notch at base of your neck at top of your chest. You don't have to raise up out of your seated position on up stroke, just let bar return up so you feel the pull. Go slow. OK to tilt back a bit keep elbows pointing to floor to slightly back.

  • + bad explain

  • wrong way

  • Does the lat pulldown only work you back? No chest or arms?

  • yes it does work your arms ( bicep,forarms ) even lil bit parts of shoulder and chest

  • YEA NJ!

  • what if u cannot adjust the seat properly and your arms don't stretch out completely?

  • can you pull behind your head, my gym induction trainer showed me to pull to behin my head,, is that ok, and i see many people doing both ways, shall i try both and do whats best for me

  • never pull behind your head. i use to that alot . but then many people told me to change it because it can injure your spine . just do like hes doing in the video

  • I see lots of ppl at the gym in a position where their back leaned slightly and then bringing it 2 the chest. is that a good way?

  • definetly ... .... thats the right way. follow the video and ull se great reults

  • Secondly, I see some benchpresses who cheat and get support from their spotter from the 1st rep. And they carry on in that fasion for maybe 5 or 6 reps. Not only is this really bad as it can cause injury.

    It's really selfish and really bad on the spotter, a year ago when I didn't know enough I was spotting a guy and I was lifting the barbell on all of his reps. I woke up the next day with really bad lower back pain and I never spotted that guy ever again.

  • I'd say if you're going for 8 rep max, then at least 5 should be strict form, obviously the lift gets harder later on in the set, so I give some leeway and not be so strict on form. If you're doing 8 rep max, and every single one of them in in strict from then IMO you're not lifting enough weights.

  • i do back and biceps on one day . is it alright if i do 2 sets instead of 3 for all the excercises. because i do heavy weights on those 2 sets...also is it necessary say supposing you workout your chest or back today , is it suppose to pain the next day ???? because if i do chest today it doesnt pain or anythin . is it a sign i didnt do excercise properly

  • most of the time the body part that you work out should hurt the next day or even the day after. i find that 2 get my chest 2 burn the next day do heavy sets with a spotter 2 push u 2 ur limit and with my back i do more of lighter weights and go for perfect form more than the heavier stuff. hope this helps.

  • Some of the cretins on here are unbelievable. By cheating you risk serious injury, sometimes permanent. How are you going to achieve anything if you are too injured to go down the gym or you develop a problem. If you want to improve your back, target your back, don't improve your back by cheating on your lat pull downs - that's sich a retarded way of thinking.

  • omg are u retarded? the way to build muscle is overload the muscle, feed the muscle and rest the muscle. lifting 120 kg with strict form is better than lifting 130 kg cheating. IDIOT

  • no your wrong... you have to do the strict form, but also lit heavy and cheat...its the only way you will increase your size and strength.

  • u can lift heavy with gd form if u gradually overload each week. cheating is necessary sometimes but most of the time u should be using good form. some people cheat most of the time and that is wrong, can cause injury and also u wont hit the muscles as hard by using momentum. u could lift 100kg barbell curl and place no stress on your biceps if u are swinging your body using momentum.

  • exactly

  • lol then i wouldnt exactly call it a barbell curl lmaoooo

  • no, strict form prevent injury...at some point you'll find this out the hard way.

  • False, never cheat. The better way you lift gives you better results and prevents injury.

  • your wrong, thats why you have nomuscles.

  • thanks,

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  • If you watch natural bodybuilders train and those using drugs, you will notice a big difference. This si how natural bodybuilders train. This method will target the primary muscle more efficiently. Leaning will allow you to lift a heavier weight for more full back thickness. One day I will find a steroid bodybuilder training like he or she was natural and then I will discover the perfect body of all time...

  • Thanks this helped... I was definitely making the first common mistake by using too much weight and leaning way too far back.

  • Is it good to do this with your palms facing you also?

  • a tip for this is to try and make a circle with your elbows as your coming down. This makes the lats do more work rather than the bicep.

  • the most important thing when doing a lat pulldown is to STRECTH and control the weight as it goes to its starting position...not just heave the bar down and slam the weight stack down..AND to initiate the pull with YOUR BACK not your arms...just my 2 cents......and comments regarding Ronnie Coleman...a bigger muscle may need less than perfect form to get stimulated...Coleman is the exeption

  • behind the neck works you back a little more but it's dangerous for your neck

  • Does this work basically the same muscles as if you pull it down behind your neck? Or is it different?

  • Thank you this makes so much sense!!!

  • motion should be restricted to the chin....for perfect form..

  • if u go down past your nose ur working your delt

  • This guy is using good form, I think people are just saying this sucks because it's coming from expert village.

  • lol u r right

  • somebody watch the Ronnie Coleman workout and tell me how it is really done coming form the best bodybuilder on th face of the planet. This guy is a trainer for arthritis patients.

  • from another personal trainer this workout was done perfectly. I hate seeing people lean back when doing lat pulldowns. If you got to lean then you either need to lower the weight or go find a rowing machine. this is a lat pulldown not a row machine.

  • 1. never take advice from expert village

    2. never take advice from a trainer named "Michael Angelo"

  • And you sure sound like one

  • dud wil brake his back one day

  • wrong dud wrong work out dud

  • and how is it wrong?

  • boy are you stupid. Personal trainers don't need to be big idiot.

  • I've read in Planet Muscle magazine that you should not pull the bar as far to your chest. it should be just in front of your chin

  • true. the point of a lat pull down machine is to simulate a pull up. in a pull up you only bring your chin up past the bar. realistically the pull down should only be used as a crutch to get your lats strong enough to do pull ups.

  • sorry but the ad is annoying

  • very nice video.. preety helpful

  • i shuldve seen dese videos before i used my 7 day pass and looked likee an idiot at the gym

  • thanks

    now my backs like a triangle

    im a fukn freak

    my girlfriend dumped me

  • triangle? I thought u get the 'V' shape...

  • now isnt it strange that people like Jay Cutler do this workout wrong? In this video is shown that you should NOT lean far back, but a lot of professionals lean back, far back.

  • yea but their rippling lower back can handle it.

  • his back isnt straight

  • once you're able to do your own weight (which is hard) try doing pull ups

  • first off learn to spell....and second, a militarypress is for the front delts...not for the lats.

  • u r supposed to hold as far on the bar as u can, retard

  • No... you have to do it exactly the way this guy shows... I used to think like you, but I went back and checked, and the diagram on the machine also shows that you need to hold the rod at the bend!

  • yea but if u want to get a better work out u need to grab as far as u can to work the muslcle

  • Oh. I did not know that. But, thanks for the info!

  • yea ok ur supposed to

  • Don't listen to him. If you hold it out at the end of the bar it works more of your shoulders and is awkward once you get it down below your head. Grip from a comfortable distance for your size. Not everything is the same for everyone, but if you're a beginner start from where the bar curves and work your way out until you find a position that you like and go light for the first few weeks to find where you want to grip the bar and to practice your form. Also; listen to your body. It knows all.

  • grip should be about one and a half shoulder wide

  • arent u supposed to hold the bar on the far edges...?

  • Thanks. That is so helpful, especially showing what most people do wrong when doing the exercise.

  • Thanks.

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