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  • Those blue line around the screen and the video quality should be better for the review =(

  • The game,which is called Thunderforce IV here in Euroland,arrives yesterday,complete in its clamshell box + instruction manual,overall in good condition...and i must say...what a blast!! great gameplay,great graphics and a soundtrack from another planet.Absolutely one of the best shootem ups ever created,perhaps the best...absolutely recommended!

  • A Dan Quayle joke and a reference to Hunter with Fred Dryer. Mark, we're getting old, man.

  • what were they thinking naming it lightening force the quest for the darkstar? it sounds like an RPG not a shmup

  • LIGHTENING FORCE's opening theme song sounds like Battery from Metallica!!!

  • Power-Ups in Thunder Force 4 1 Twin Shot 2 Back Shot 3 Blade 4 Rail Gun 5 Snake 6 Freeway 7 Hunter 8 Thunder Sword 9 Shield 10 Claw 11 1-up
  • They should have called it Thunder Fource.

    Or Thunder 4ce.

    Or Thunder Force the fourcth.

  • One of the best, if not THE best shooters I've played!! That intro is still badass even to this day!! On order from ebay so I can relive my childhood on my new Sega Nomad :-)

  • loved this game a lot. Still want to get this Landstalker, and more.

  • potato force lol

  • Hint: if you go to the options, (which is by pressing all 3 genesis buttons while holding start in the intro of the game), change your selection of lives to 1, by doing this, you now have 99 lives!

  • jesse video e muito fera

  • CLAW!

  • Out oif the three Thunderforce games I own on my Genesis, this one's my favorite, very likely the best shmup on the Genesis with Eliminate Down a close second (it's pricey unlike TF 4/LF), but ED is barely ahead of Thunder Force 3, Gaiares, and TF 2 in my book.

  • OH GOD THE MUSIC.

  • I wonder why the final boss guardian robot shoots down the giant spaceship wit ha beak that earlier attacked the player.

  • Hell yeah, I'd love to play some GLaDOS Force on my Sega Genesis!

    ...oh God, why did I make this joke?

  • how can you be soo amazingly good at these games? I played since 1993 and i really cant complete anything in these tyoe if shooters.

    Well Ok i did complete first level of thuderforce 2.

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  • Wow. The opening music & title screen is bad ass. The background is pretty awesome, too.

  • "That's lightening force, and know that when you're playing it, you're not lightening the load to help a friend out. You're lightening the enemy of their lives, by taking it from them, in a fiery explosion of death."

    Badass quote is badass. B)

  • Great review for a great game.

  • The theme sounds like Duke Nukem.

  • @TaInTeDlYnX your wrong.....the Pc-engine (japanese turbo grafx) is the best console for classic shooters, rivaled only by Sega Saturn. It has 110 shmups and I recommend looking into it.

  • @123doomdoom good call, yes the PC-Engine is indeed the game console to get if you love shmups.

  • borrowed this from my neighbor many times in my childhood. Now I can no death it.....on a good day.

  • This is a great game, I own it and have almost beaten it.:)

  • the title music remin sounds like Doom 00:36 till 53:00

  • Potato Force all the way!! LOL!!!

  • It would have been cool if they did merge together to make voltron!

  • Great review, just picked it up on teh ebay. You should review Whip Rush, great classic genesis space shooter.

  • The improvement is obvious as soon as you power the game on. The layers of parallax scrolling, the colors, the brilliant quality of the sounds and composition of music on that shitty Genesis sound chip, the music easter eggs, tight controls and tough but fair gameplay make this the best on the console and in the series.

  • @ikeaaron

    Wonder why People say the Genesis has a crappy sound chip. It's the engine that most of the American developers use that make shitty music.

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  • @ikeaaron everything you said, I agree with except about the Genesis sound chip being shitty. The Genesis uses FM sounds and if you are familiar with FM Synthesis, then you would have a deep appreciation of the sound chip in the Genesis. As an electronic music producer, I find the sound chip in the Genesis to be quite amazing.

  • @deadlygroove1 You're completely right. I make electronic music as well and my bias is based on it's low bit rate sample playback, but you're absolutely right about FM synthesis. Yuzo Koshiro showed what the Genesis was truly capable of with the Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle series, especially with part 3. Kudos, bro.

  • @ikeaaron dude, you know what's really cool to do FM Synthesis in, is Propellerhead Reason. The Subtractor and especially Thor does an excellent job for emulating the sounds on the Sega Genesis. I accidentally found that out one night when I was trying to create a sound for a minimal prog track I was working on.

  • Great game. Do you have one for the SNES' Space Megaforce? I played that poor game to death back in the day, lol.

  • @chairmanofthebored1 OMG someone else! Don't you just llove the music in that game man? kinda cry in the ending due to that one last song lol

  • @SNESosT I cannot tell a lie, I really do, lol. And the gameplay is awesome, you get to shoot alot of stuff with 8 different weapons.

  • @SNESosT Do you know about the extra music that gets unlocked in the sound select after you beat the game? I'm sure you probably know about it already, but if you didn't, look up 'Thunder Force IV Omake' in youtube or, better still, beat the game and try it for yourself! ;)

  • Classic Game Room has changed everything I know about video games....

  • @SoApBoX Calssic game room: showed me how many excellent games I've missed.

  • FYI, the "Lightening" part also refers to the lightning weapon that you have when your "Claw" weapon (not "Krull", though thanks for giving kudos to that awesome movie!) is upgraded to the "orb" version at the end of level five. If you let up on the fire button for 3-5 seconds the orbs will charge and you can then unleash a powerful lightning attack.

  • @metalfro

    Very True, I heard that the lightening attack is called "Thunder Sword"

    In all honesty. I liked the way your ship looks before they install the upgrade. It also sucks that you cannot use thunder sword unless you have the Claw with you, but then again that is the challenge of staying alive.

  • Lightening Force was named as such due to a licensing snafu Sega ran into while bringing the title to the US from Japan via Technosoft. Not sure why the name still ended up as Engrish, but it's the quintessential shoot-em-up for the Genesis, bar-none. Some prefer one of another 2 or 3 games (some prefer TF3), but to me, TF4/LF is THE shooter to have for the Sega Genesis.

  • @TheSixSamurai1 same mate :(

  • Just got the game in the mail this will be the first Thunder Force game I've played and I love it!!

  • I was so sad to almost find out............SPOILER ALEART ..................that the ship almost didn't make it out alive, when the explosion got near em and saw his back explode, I yelled "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" I just beat it and I did't wanna go throw all that shit just to see my plane die. GREAT GREAT GAME.

  • @SNESosT Then you fight it TF5.

  • i need to lay my on this game anybody know w+69554here i vcan buy this game ligthning force

  • @MrJohn202030 amazon.com for a couple bucks

  • i need to lay my on this game anybody know where i vcan buy this game ligthning force

  • Those thingies in the beginning are named CLAW's and when you got that thing later attached you will get CRAW's ;)

  • 8:20..that add on for your spaceship gave you the sword laser a massive beam that shot out..to use it you have to stop firing for about 4seconds and it charges up..i cant believe you didnt know this lol..

  • The Graphics are wonderfull!!!

    I love Thunder force :-)

  • Ii remember this game my cousin use to have this on his sega. he use to tell me fuck your snes hahahaha this use to look so awsome back in the day but it still looks fun anyways love your reviews man keep it up.

  • Not sure what the name of those spinning orbs are called but I do know it a new weapon they give you and it's pretty damn throwed you have to stop shooting for about 3 seconds and it charges up and starts to ark with an electric current then when you shoot again you release a powerful energy blast!

  • To my amazement they gave a different title only for the american market even though they have already branded it as thunder force, and they misspelled it!

    Those spinning orbs which sounded like krull are actually called claw. Dunno how they came up with that name though. Perhaps they should have called it krull.

  • I really wish you would have done a 2 part review on this game. I think its the best out of this series by a long shot. The Music and the backround are incredible! This is my all time favoriet Sega game. PERIOD. And i never did beat it, always got stuck somwhere towards the end. BTW the voice says COLT! colt is the thing that spins around you that is all bad ass n stuff : D

    thank you for doing these. Genisis is my fav system as well! keep up thegreat work!

  • Wow! So you fight agains ORN Empire in this game? Damn! Sweet name for an enemy :P

  • Five people couldn't pass the first level...

  • What's the intro song to this video called?

  • rofl potato force, id buy it just for that name

  • El mejor juegos de naves de la historia :)

  • This was a great game back in the day and still is. The soundtrack was amazing and the backgrounds were fucking insane!

  • Looks like you died at the 7th boss... LOL;;;;

  • 8:36 - it's actually CLAW, not crawl (I had the game and manual and remember this :)

    Also I thought it's a high male voice, but in fact it's a woman's voice sampled.

    Thunder Force IV is actually en par if not better than SNES' Parodius which I owned too and which is astonishing! Since normally nothing beats Parodius :) Great video!!!

  • One of the best video games on ANY console or computer. Look Mobygames. COnstantly in the Top 10. Top3. Often on top position :)

    One of my all time favorite games from the 90s besides Sonic 1 and 2. ^^ :)

  • I thought you said M.U.S.H.A. was the best video games on the Sega Genesis! :) Some of us watch , listen, and remember. Also, this game looks like a M.U.S.H.A. copy cat. Same company? Or a company that picked up on M.U.S.H.A.? OORRR was this game out before M.U.S.H.A. and the company that made M.U.S.H.A. copied Lightening Force? You're now asking yourself "How many times can you type M.U.S.H.A. in one comment space?" :)

  • if you stop shooting a moment you realise that the top part of the spaceship is the device for charge the thunder sword ,you need the 2 claws and wait e few sec without shoot !!!

  • Krull!

  • of course there are ninjas in this game, you just don't see them

  • ...well in one sense you ARE lightening your enemies because you're filling them with holes...

  • One of the greatest videogame soundtracks EVER! Just so good.

  • The voice says claw. Also, why not play these games on a PC in an emulator? It upscales the picture you can add texture filtering, you can send the picture to a TV using a HDMI lead, edit the controls to suit, you can use any controller with it too. I own a Sega Megadrive (I'm in the UK) and I find the emulator my preferred way to enjoy these classic games.

  • Oh, forgot, you can also play multiplayer games with friends via the internet too!!!

  • bought this off ebay along with TF2 and 3 and while this one is awesome ( i think it has better music then TF3 but TF3 has better levels in my opinion) i still play TF3 more and i recently bought TF5 for psx so i hope that one is as good.

  • Krull! love this game dude! When I was reviewing it for retroist I was really shocked as to why they didn't call it Thunder force 4 over there. doest make any sense to me. Being a SNES fan all my life I decided to get me some mega drives and as many games as possible and I Happened to come across it and was amazed. The speed is amazing I think there are only 2 or 3 parts where there is slowdown, the SNES could no way run this at that speed with its slow ass processor. Great vid, great game

  • If you are a normal person like me, you will need a cheat to finish this game. It's the most simple game cheat ever. Just go to the settings menu (by pressing start+a during the intro) and select 0 extra lives, that will give you 99 extra lives! And you will need them!

  • @Cineviggo I think it's only on our European version...

  • The intro kicks asssssssssssssssssssssssssssss­ssssssss!!!!!

    Just awesome Game!

  • i think thunder force 3 is much better but im not so into shooters anyway

  • I just got Thunder Force IV and wow... is it great! Terrific graphics, non distorted sound(except the speech samples, but they just sound classic^^) and addictive gameplay. A game done right on the Mega Drive (lol European here). If you don't have it, GET IT!!! DON'T WASTE YOUR LIFE BY PLAING ANYTHING ELSE ! :P

  • The Computer says "Claw" not "Krull" and if you get the new weapon at the end of level 5 stop pushing the fire-button for a few seconds, and than you see the real FORCE.

    Dieses Spiel zeigt MUSHA in jeder hinsicht wo Barthel den Most holt.

  • Legendary game. I have it on cart for my Megadrive. Still my fave shooter of all time.

  • Wow the intro music sounds fucking badass.

  • I just realized that my copy of Lightening Force has been stolen, and it probably happened about ten years ago....

  • Sega of USA didn't want to call it Thunderforce 4, because that would confuse it with a popular game and could have been profitable. Instead they misspelled the word Lightning.

  • damn i love this game i wish it would come on the vc for wii. i member the music the levels and how hard it was , i cant member but i had to be 12 or something i member beating this game and feeling something like amazing lol its like the first time you beat sonic 2 it brings back those memories damn id get this game as soon as they announce it guaranteed graphics are off the chain

  • This would be one of the best games on the Megadrive were it actually playable. The difficulty level is simply blasphemed, and it's a shame because it makes this game, which has really nice graphics and music, inaccessible to people who aren't experts of these type of games.

  • Go into the options menu, set the number of lives to 0.

    Problem solved! :D

  • recently got this from a friend, fantastic game and music- then realized that this was something Mark would like and whaddaya know it happens to be thunder force 4.

  • Yes! Both thunder force 3 and 4 are simply amazing for the genesis!

  • this game looks sick...

  • have you played this?

  • ya got to get pardious for ya snes or saturn mark, its like thunder force or gardius with pure madness.

  • Brings back memories of the TV show. Not really.

    LOL

  • Hehe! The satellite power ups are Roll (TF2) and Claw (TF3), TF4 uses both but you get Roll after the ship is converted as seen in this review.

    Love the Classic Game Room, keep up the great work.

    Some other really great shooters I would love to see you review on Genesis are:

    Eliminate Down (Japanese only), Gley Lancer (again Japanese only) and Gaiares (was released in the US by Renovation).

  • bad ass game wish I could find it was one of my favorits

  • Here is another reason to own a Sega Genesis!

  • Jesus Christ this game simply has it all! This is simply the best graphics i've ever witness on the Genesis, excellent use of dithering and colour manipulation. Completely rivals most SNES titles. Even tho SNES could produce 256 colours at one time, doesn't mean that most games used all those, because they didn't! The soundtrack is simply amazing, doesn't even sound like FM synth, an amazing game on an amazing console! Long live the Sega Genesis!

  • Man, I loved this game so much back in the day. I remember being totally blown away by the intro the first time I turned it on. Such amazing graphics and music for a humble 16 bit game.

  • Potatoe Force would be even better.

  • Simply the best graphics ever seen in a genesis vg..

  • "electrocutes people, and blows up windmills" xD best quote ever.... well mayb not considering classic game room still exists :D

  • THAT GAME GOT KICK ASS SOUNDTRACK!!!

  • The King of 16bit hori-shmups!

    "Perfection" is the only word that comes to my mind when I think of it...

    Is it just me or does Sega Genesis proudly own in its library the best shooters of its time? ;) Hmmmm...run'n'gun (Gunstar Heroes), vert-shmup (M.U.S.H.A.), hori-shmup (Lightening Force)... ;)

  • This game is insanely difficult.

  • 08:10 - those upgraded 'CRAW's charges up powerful laser sword when fire button is released for few seconds, it's hard to control but pure awesome ownage once mastered. You don't know the true force of 'lightening'* until you've seen it in full action.

    on wiki - *to lighten: (can also mean)To make brighter or clearer; to illuminate.

  • hey your website is awesome! can you also do some PC-Engine reviews?

  • Why are you so angry, friend? You just swoop in and spray negative comments all over the place, and for what purpose? I said nothing bad against Lightening Force. In fact I said it looked fun. Please explain.

  • Well, that was a clever response. I compliment the game, compare its soundtrack to another epid one I know, and get insulted as a result. Hardly seems justified, does it?

  • HAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!! whatever you find necessary to succeed in life!..

  • Potato Force rules!

  • this game was so effin hard, I play it with emu, but heck I need a pad for this baby.

  • For fans of the soundtrack, if you complete the game (on at least Normal mode) the sound test in the config panel will include the end music, credit music and some "omake" tracks... music that isn't in the game, but has that same theme. Ya gotta love little bonuses like that.

    You also get to see the part of the storyline setting up for Thunder Force V, when the wreckage of the ship you just piloted is found by humans...

  • 0:36 Wow...that's some awesome tunes there.

  • exactly! metal midi tunes ROCK!..

  • It's Doom all over again...

  • nothing matches doom! doom is bar none! ;P

  • Oh, it certainly doesn't rival Doom, which has undoubtably one of the best soundtracks ever, but the style is very similar. Doom as a game has aged horribly, like most FPSs, but the soundtrack is timeless.

  • Trying to compare DOOM and Lightening Force is like trying to campare an electric shaver to a cardboard box. You really can't do it.

  • But they both have sweet music, which was my original point. Give me that, yes?

  • I'll allow it, DON'T DO IT AGAIN!!!

    :D

  • Kind and merciful internet person, you have my thanks.

  • She's saying "Claw".

    That's the name of the two rotating "options" around your ship.

  • Actually(because I own the ROM cartridge.... just being honest, and NOT trying to be a snob, so please don't take my 'correction' of your info the wrong way!), it's C.R.A.W = Constituted Ray Art Weapon. Nice technological C.R.A.W-Fish for your Ship!! One of TechnoSoft's best efforts upon the SEGA Genesis/MegaDrive. Now why hasn't, say, Atlus or UFO Entertainment decided to localize ThunderForceVI for the PlayStation2 in the States? BTW:Lightning Force is the U.S title. TFIV in Japan.

  • the original einhander..

  • Krull! Awesome movie.

  • Poor Dan Quayle...

  • Indeed in Europe the game was still called Thunderforce IV. European Genesis was called Megadrive. I wish that they would remake TF3 & 4 with HD visuals, or make a new one old fashion style.

  • i would love this game in an aercade

  • maybe its a fat free version of the origional game.

  • This game is so hardThat i had to use the 99 lives cheat to beat it. I completed the game with 44 ships left...on my 2nd continue. which means i lost over 150 ships trying to beat this game...on top of this it was on easy mode. They made this wayyyyy to hard!

  • It's too bad there is no HD remake, or at least port, of this on XBLA or PSN but you can still play the original on your PS3 if you install linux. It's awesome with a wireless DualShock controller ;D

    The best thing though (next to the real consoles) is to get an old modded xbox with emulators, you can play almost every Thunder Force game in the franchise. Not too sure about the first but I have 2,3,4 and 5 on it, fully playable! Add a component cable for HD output and you're all set!

  • Does anyone know why Sega of America renamed TFIV to Lightening Force? I never understood that.

  • Just in case you didn't know, if you stop firing for a few seconds with the new craw, you can charge up for a shot called the "Thunder Sword".

    Great review btw.

  • This game was so creative, the artwork was so fantastic, a real treat for the imagination. The music kicked ass too.

  • The voice when you get the circle things that surround your ship says "CRAW", which stands for Constitutional Ray Art Weapon.

  • wow this game is a work of art! this is the first time i have seen it moving, i had always wanted this game because i also gru up with thunderforce 3, is there a thunder force 1??? somewhere like a arcade version??? i guess i will surch here on youtube. i remember all the controversy in the magazines about the name and sega visions saying why they change the name, i am such a dumbass to not get this game in the 90s. a lot of you guys have good feeling memories of this game that i wish i had.

  • The original Thunder Force came out the Japan only PC88 computers in 1983. You aren't missing much. It is basically a bland clone of Bosconian or Sinistar. The game is just like the top down levels in TFII only near unplayable.

  • the thing the friendly forces fix on you will make your fire a forward trusting powerful laser lancer which will be a great help becos there will be a lot of mini bosses afterward. but i forgot how to activate it, its years back and i got this game too.

  • i am now a subscribe ....

    i your your reviews , keep going on.

  • *slaps forehead* you could have had a V8* Kicks wwepower in nuts* and mark is too funny!

  • Mark's lameness is what makes him awesome in the first place.

  • how do you know there isnt a ninja driving the ship??? huh mark???? yea, thats what I thought lol

  • Yes!!, I love Classic Game Room HD!! This is a classic game!

    I have Thunder Force 4(Mega Drive), and Thunder Force 5(Sega Saturn), I love this series.

  • so this is your first episode of the series?

  • This is 4, Thunder Force 4. :)

  • Actaully... I meant if this is their first episode of Classic Game Room ! :)

  • No this is one of the new episodes but for some reason it is first on the playlist

  • I think they took them randomly

  • I love the soundtrack for this game. The groove-driven tracks like the one for the space level are amazing.

    The attachments for your ship are called "Craw" (Engrish for Claw?). At least, thats what they are in TF V, anyway...

  • Here in Europe it was called Thunder Force IV.

    TFIV is absolutely awesome...the opening stage is just jaw-dropping, and it gets more and more awesome.

    Its hard as nails.

  • Krull!

  • this makes me rofl i love it

  • does anyone remember the Glaive in Krull? awsome movie!

  • That intercooler thing they add gives you a charge shot similar to R-type.

  • In two words, Mark:

    FUCK YEAH!

    Waaaay back in 1991?2?, my brother coaxed my Mom into spending $75 - on a nonbirthday, nonholiday Friday night in summer! - on Thunder Force III, and my world got changed forever.

    The menacing difficulty! Awesome graphics! the shit-your-pants bosses! The tunes rocked me like no game on any console before or since.

    I knew there was a thunder Force 4, but thought it never came Stateside. I remember a Lightening Force and thought it was a cheap knockoff!

  • i got this game when my brothers gave me there N64,NES, and Saga Genesis. Im 13 and love classic games(my friends hate them)

  • Heh, my friends also hate classics (Sad, but true)

  • Your friends aren't real gamers. They must like real easy games.

  • Yes Super Smash Brothers Brawl Halo 3 and Resistance are good games.But we wouldnt have them without the ole  atari sega and nintendo.Reeducate your friends so they play pitfall and donkey kong.

  • @gtaplayer86

    your a rare breed, the youngsters now of days dont give a crap about 1990s work of art, most of these youngsters today are born in the 1990s but they just dont care???

    arigato!!!