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  • Tony Choy is kinda sloppy and has a horrible tone!

  • I thought it was great! Most of all when you have a piece like this you have to have a really great engineer to track it right. I love the stereo spread on the recording and the EQ. The mic placement and type of mic was right on. You could hear every harmonic note and every clean Bell-ish hit on the cymbals and tuning on the drums which are often hidden if the track wasn't recoded right. What does all of what I said mean. You could hear everything that the bass player and drummer put out th

  • Hey man upload more songs with the drums and bass it good for learning the songs

  • @anyrock22 I don't really know any off-hand, the reason this exists is because it was included in the reissue of Unquestionable Presence... I know Human by Death has been reissued and there's drum + bass tracks for a few of the songs though.

  • @MikeHawk4all

    No, I have the album here in front of me. Inside it says "Line up on tracks 9-15 is Kelly Shaefer - Lead Vocals/Lead Guitar, Roger Patterson - Bass (etc)". Tracks 9-15 is listed on the back cover as "Pre-Production Demo 8/90 featuring Roger Patterson". This is track 16 and, along with 17 (rhythm tracks), features Tony Choy.

    Look, it doesn't even sound like Roger. It's too trebly, lacks that bouncy, bassy tone and, most importantly, simply doesn't have his attack and power.

  • i love the death metal bass!!!!!!!!

  • can someone here tell me wat time signature the first part of this song is in???

    i was kind of guessing it was in 9/8 or something

  • @joeyunleashed13 the very first 2 bars are in 5/4 than 3/4 for one bar than switching between 11/8 and 10/8 for a few bars

  • @kingofbishop thanks mate. im usually good at finding time signitures, but i would've never figured that one out :D

  • can someone here tell me wat time signature this song is in???

    i was kind of guessing it was in 9/8 or something

  • Im been trying like for two weeks to try tab this drums, but i just still dont understand 00:09 that drummer is sick!

  • It is almost unbelievable to me how jazzy this band is without guitars and vocals.

  • i love this sound

  • tell me and to Borivoj thanks for having shared this with the ATHEIST dudes when they were putting the reissues together.... those guys didn't have those recordings... we did!

  • I'm not a fan of Tony's tone, it sounds squishy.

  • Well now that there's a drum and bass track, I can learn the song on the guitar and play with this.

  • There's nothing quite like jazzy tech death.

  • holy shit those drums are fucking sick

  • This dude kicks ass. I've never heard of him before.

  • well this is diferent, great band too, one of my favorite songs by them to be honest.

  • Believe me, this is absolutely not Roger Patterson, it is Tony Choy. Listen to the demos properly - the difference in power between the two is huge. Patterson's sound and playing style was enormous.

  • correct. the difference huge, rip roger

  • Question: Is it the same Tony Choy that played with Cynic?

  • yes it is. And Pestilence.

  • thank you!

  • @beastatlay choy is EXTREMELY sloppy..lol

  • @beastatlay also tony choy has always had the worst tone settings ive ever heard for metal bass

  • @beastatlay Damn right. Roger Patterson is the only case in music that I know of where a guy would be a legend if he HADN'T died.

  • No it's not, it's Tony Choy. Patterson wrote all the bass lines for the album, but died before recording. Patterson's work, but Choy's playing.

  • I think it may be a demo, which would have had Patterson playing, as the Unquestionable Presence re-release had a bunch of demos which I'm pretty sure had Patterson playing, as they were before the album's recording(?) Again, I'm not completely sure.

  • @Steve128967 I know the demo versions on the re release had Patterson, but on these remixed tracks it could be either one really.

  • @Steve128967

    yeah the re release had patterson playin on some demos

    specifically:(preproduction)

    enthralled in essence the formative yrs

    unquestionable presence an incrantaions dream

    retribution as an instrumental and

    brains as an instrumental

    and theres another enthralled in essence one thats not pre production

    but this motherman drum and bass track is not noted as featuring patterson so it was probably Choy

  • @Steve128967 nope its choy

  • @slipknotkingg Roger is playing on this version. Tony plays the one with vocals/guitar.

  • @slipknotkingg actually patterson was alive for the demo recordings. i have them.they came with the deluxe version of this album

  • You stole this video lol, why re-upload?

  • i actually didn't know there was another one up until I saw it in the related videos, so there's two now I guess.

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