I thought it was great! Most of all when you have a piece like this you have to have a really great engineer to track it right. I love the stereo spread on the recording and the EQ. The mic placement and type of mic was right on. You could hear every harmonic note and every clean Bell-ish hit on the cymbals and tuning on the drums which are often hidden if the track wasn't recoded right. What does all of what I said mean. You could hear everything that the bass player and drummer put out th
@anyrock22 I don't really know any off-hand, the reason this exists is because it was included in the reissue of Unquestionable Presence... I know Human by Death has been reissued and there's drum + bass tracks for a few of the songs though.
No, I have the album here in front of me. Inside it says "Line up on tracks 9-15 is Kelly Shaefer - Lead Vocals/Lead Guitar, Roger Patterson - Bass (etc)". Tracks 9-15 is listed on the back cover as "Pre-Production Demo 8/90 featuring Roger Patterson". This is track 16 and, along with 17 (rhythm tracks), features Tony Choy.
Look, it doesn't even sound like Roger. It's too trebly, lacks that bouncy, bassy tone and, most importantly, simply doesn't have his attack and power.
tell me and to Borivoj thanks for having shared this with the ATHEIST dudes when they were putting the reissues together.... those guys didn't have those recordings... we did!
Believe me, this is absolutely not Roger Patterson, it is Tony Choy. Listen to the demos properly - the difference in power between the two is huge. Patterson's sound and playing style was enormous.
I think it may be a demo, which would have had Patterson playing, as the Unquestionable Presence re-release had a bunch of demos which I'm pretty sure had Patterson playing, as they were before the album's recording(?) Again, I'm not completely sure.
Tony Choy is kinda sloppy and has a horrible tone!
TheZombieXecutioner2 1 day ago
I thought it was great! Most of all when you have a piece like this you have to have a really great engineer to track it right. I love the stereo spread on the recording and the EQ. The mic placement and type of mic was right on. You could hear every harmonic note and every clean Bell-ish hit on the cymbals and tuning on the drums which are often hidden if the track wasn't recoded right. What does all of what I said mean. You could hear everything that the bass player and drummer put out th
Hammerdown1000 4 weeks ago
Hey man upload more songs with the drums and bass it good for learning the songs
anyrock22 8 months ago
@anyrock22 I don't really know any off-hand, the reason this exists is because it was included in the reissue of Unquestionable Presence... I know Human by Death has been reissued and there's drum + bass tracks for a few of the songs though.
Steve128967 8 months ago
@MikeHawk4all
No, I have the album here in front of me. Inside it says "Line up on tracks 9-15 is Kelly Shaefer - Lead Vocals/Lead Guitar, Roger Patterson - Bass (etc)". Tracks 9-15 is listed on the back cover as "Pre-Production Demo 8/90 featuring Roger Patterson". This is track 16 and, along with 17 (rhythm tracks), features Tony Choy.
Look, it doesn't even sound like Roger. It's too trebly, lacks that bouncy, bassy tone and, most importantly, simply doesn't have his attack and power.
beastatlay 9 months ago
i love the death metal bass!!!!!!!!
YiannisMetallas96 1 year ago
can someone here tell me wat time signature the first part of this song is in???
i was kind of guessing it was in 9/8 or something
joeyunleashed13 1 year ago
@joeyunleashed13 the very first 2 bars are in 5/4 than 3/4 for one bar than switching between 11/8 and 10/8 for a few bars
kingofbishop 1 year ago
@kingofbishop thanks mate. im usually good at finding time signitures, but i would've never figured that one out :D
joeyunleashed13 1 year ago
can someone here tell me wat time signature this song is in???
i was kind of guessing it was in 9/8 or something
joeyunleashed13 1 year ago
Im been trying like for two weeks to try tab this drums, but i just still dont understand 00:09 that drummer is sick!
protonelexe 1 year ago
It is almost unbelievable to me how jazzy this band is without guitars and vocals.
SnoringMonkeyExhibit 1 year ago 5
i love this sound
yallsuckmydick 1 year ago
tell me and to Borivoj thanks for having shared this with the ATHEIST dudes when they were putting the reissues together.... those guys didn't have those recordings... we did!
snakepitguy 1 year ago
I'm not a fan of Tony's tone, it sounds squishy.
brassaflax 1 year ago
Well now that there's a drum and bass track, I can learn the song on the guitar and play with this.
megadethendgame 1 year ago
There's nothing quite like jazzy tech death.
zMaGna720z 1 year ago
holy shit those drums are fucking sick
BlackDiamond351 1 year ago 3
This dude kicks ass. I've never heard of him before.
largesam72 1 year ago
well this is diferent, great band too, one of my favorite songs by them to be honest.
majewsmovies 2 years ago
Believe me, this is absolutely not Roger Patterson, it is Tony Choy. Listen to the demos properly - the difference in power between the two is huge. Patterson's sound and playing style was enormous.
beastatlay 2 years ago 13
correct. the difference huge, rip roger
abominabletreachery 2 years ago 2
Question: Is it the same Tony Choy that played with Cynic?
Dinopaterno22 2 years ago
yes it is. And Pestilence.
Steve128967 2 years ago
thank you!
Dinopaterno22 2 years ago
@beastatlay choy is EXTREMELY sloppy..lol
sthxdnn1 7 months ago
@beastatlay also tony choy has always had the worst tone settings ive ever heard for metal bass
cooliovasquez 7 months ago
@beastatlay Damn right. Roger Patterson is the only case in music that I know of where a guy would be a legend if he HADN'T died.
antonio610 1 month ago
No it's not, it's Tony Choy. Patterson wrote all the bass lines for the album, but died before recording. Patterson's work, but Choy's playing.
slipknotkingg 2 years ago 11
I think it may be a demo, which would have had Patterson playing, as the Unquestionable Presence re-release had a bunch of demos which I'm pretty sure had Patterson playing, as they were before the album's recording(?) Again, I'm not completely sure.
Steve128967 2 years ago 2
@Steve128967 I know the demo versions on the re release had Patterson, but on these remixed tracks it could be either one really.
Romencer17 1 year ago
@Steve128967
yeah the re release had patterson playin on some demos
specifically:(preproduction)
enthralled in essence the formative yrs
unquestionable presence an incrantaions dream
retribution as an instrumental and
brains as an instrumental
and theres another enthralled in essence one thats not pre production
but this motherman drum and bass track is not noted as featuring patterson so it was probably Choy
nekroseftychia 1 year ago
@Steve128967 nope its choy
cooliovasquez 1 year ago
@slipknotkingg Roger is playing on this version. Tony plays the one with vocals/guitar.
Mikeraske 1 year ago
@slipknotkingg actually patterson was alive for the demo recordings. i have them.they came with the deluxe version of this album
sthxdnn1 10 months ago
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that's actually Roger Patterson on bass
jc72071 2 years ago
You stole this video lol, why re-upload?
ellusionistMatt5515 2 years ago
i actually didn't know there was another one up until I saw it in the related videos, so there's two now I guess.
Steve128967 2 years ago