-- So meditation is the opposite of religion. In meditation you seek the answer inside yourself, or learn to accept the void in you. In religion you seek the answers delivered to you from outside yourself. Make up your mind what you want and live with it.
The difference between meditation and religion is - religion is someone else's meditation which only applies to that someone - your meditation is only applicable to you. And if you are insane enough you would want it to apply to all people in order to prove your own righteousness and feel at home in the outside when you cannot feel at home in your own inside. ---
religion is what you have been looking for your whole life... it was for me... and i have gone through a lot of unnecessary pain because i was searching for the truth... think before you choose atheism... and your religion cannot be shared with anyone as it fails as soon as it is posted as a truth trough your mouth
see the value of the message, i can understand for people that are depended on their religion and believes this must be rejected directly. but don't be afraid it's a real treasure and extraordinary gift, see it youself...
Can mankind invent or imagine anything that does not already exist in the Universe? Does our very imagination capture some knowledge outside of ourselves but we must go within to discover it?
Well what J Krishnamurti We have made God after our image is truely inspirational. Now time to find a cure for immortality :) I never die only change shape and matter uh uh uh uh.
Religion is a cult which poisons minds! It advocates immorality and irresponsibility!! It condones voluntary willful ignorance and sycophantic flattery without questioning these bizarre ideals! There has never been any truth to religion. It's all about being a sycophant to an idea! Unlike religion, I want to live the best life I can with decent morals so that I can get along with people. Religion likes partitioning people off into groups which is retarded in my opinion.
@jaymurtii Care to elaborate on that? What exactly was he conning people with? He went around giving talks and he also wrote books, if that is a con then every public speaker and author is a con man....
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I do not know why, but almost ALL great thinker of our time have got everything right and figured out. Except the fact that they don't beleive in god.
And yes man has invented god for their needs, but if one religion is wrong and foolish, does it mean that ALL the others are as well.
I am sorry Jiddu that you died not knowing the truth, may Allah forgive you.
He is not talking about if the God exists or not. You need to read his book named "On God" to fully understand his idea. What he means is that because our thought is limited so it invents God and it never connects to reality of God or Truth or Allah or any other name you call it. And God is unlimited so he can't be understood through limited thought and you need a whole new level of perception to understand God.
I have no Idea why you were flagged, but this is probably the most friendly comment I received concerning religion. Thanx for your patience ;)
I agree with you totaly, God is beyond our thinking capabilities, so to question about him is quite foolish. But yet, one must totaly have "faith" to believe in God, we cannot see him, or have a conversation with him. But he hears us, sees us, and feels us. So "faith" is the only thing we have..
@jaymurtii No, obviously not. God doesn't need out faith in him, it is in fact us who need it. We need it in our "life", all the problems we go through and the peiople we lose. WE need Allah in our conscience, since he is the one who created us.
You have completely missed the point Krishnamurti was speaking about. The problem with humanity is that we expect someone or some god to fix our problems for us or "guide us". You are your own salvation and no one else.
@jaymurtii And just so you know, the sun and the earth are not under our control, but they do those things necesary for our existence on earth became they have faith in Allah, everything in nature believe's in God. It is only us who rebel my friend.
@88dragons88 oh and in case you didn't see the video, J.K. explains exactly what you are saying a few posts below, i.e. it doesn't matter what you worship so you can invent Allah or anything that doesn't need any proof and start believing !
@jaymurtii I believe people won't die. 5 mins later Damn it Fox news said people were dying in Afgan (Sad face) well back to the prayer 5minutes later more people died. Well What else to do forget religion Imma invent my own religion and that is pray that I don't die. 10 years later (I got shot) Religon is worthless but wait Im dead :> lol
@88dragons88 your language anthropomorphizing what many people of theology call God. If you can't even transcend mere words in your own speech, then Truth cannot be seen, it will remain hidden. When Truth is known, Allah falls by the waist-side, all concepts dissolve, if clanged to, one remains under that conditioning, under illusion. To come to Truth means to transcend the illusions. Words are very limiting.
-- So meditation is the opposite of religion. In meditation you seek the answer inside yourself, or learn to accept the void in you. In religion you seek the answers delivered to you from outside yourself. Make up your mind what you want and live with it.
prebenso 1 month ago
The difference between meditation and religion is - religion is someone else's meditation which only applies to that someone - your meditation is only applicable to you. And if you are insane enough you would want it to apply to all people in order to prove your own righteousness and feel at home in the outside when you cannot feel at home in your own inside. ---
prebenso 1 month ago
Can you imagine going out to eat with Krishnamurti?
"Hello, my name is Tim and I'll be your waitperson this evening. Can I get you guys started with some drinks and appetizers?"
"Tim, let's talk about this a little bit..... Whatdoes it mean to "drink", really? Shall we talk about it a little bit?"
[40 mins later]
"Tim, can I ask you question. What does "ordering food" really mean?"
ellisgarvin 1 month ago
Wow, I could pick this apart a dozen different ways, where to begin? How about this:
His last sentence in this video is, "to come upon that, meditation is necessary".
How is this different from religion that he spends seven minutes denigrating?
ellisgarvin 1 month ago
religion is what you have been looking for your whole life... it was for me... and i have gone through a lot of unnecessary pain because i was searching for the truth... think before you choose atheism... and your religion cannot be shared with anyone as it fails as soon as it is posted as a truth trough your mouth
useltrummis 1 month ago
SUMMARY: Relgion is bullshit...NEXT!
motelcalifornia 2 months ago
Religion is never having to say you are sorry...
I am sorry. What was the question again?
motelcalifornia 2 months ago
see the value of the message, i can understand for people that are depended on their religion and believes this must be rejected directly. but don't be afraid it's a real treasure and extraordinary gift, see it youself...
TheThetrue 3 months ago
Can mankind invent or imagine anything that does not already exist in the Universe? Does our very imagination capture some knowledge outside of ourselves but we must go within to discover it?
LadyStonecut 3 months ago
Well what J Krishnamurti We have made God after our image is truely inspirational. Now time to find a cure for immortality :) I never die only change shape and matter uh uh uh uh.
KSATica 3 months ago
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I see the HIGHER marked comments are so stupid and ignorant, Atheists fanatics don't understand the enlighten path Krishnamurti offers them.
it's a shame.
WolfEyesatNight 6 months ago 2
Religion is a cult which poisons minds! It advocates immorality and irresponsibility!! It condones voluntary willful ignorance and sycophantic flattery without questioning these bizarre ideals! There has never been any truth to religion. It's all about being a sycophant to an idea! Unlike religion, I want to live the best life I can with decent morals so that I can get along with people. Religion likes partitioning people off into groups which is retarded in my opinion.
FallofDarkness55 7 months ago
@FallofDarkness55 Have fun with your religion.
TheJamezMan 3 months ago
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lol, krishnamurti was a con man.
CoSEthicsOfficer 1 year ago
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@CoSEthicsOfficer There is some truth to that statement.
jaymurtii 1 year ago
@jaymurtii Care to elaborate on that? What exactly was he conning people with? He went around giving talks and he also wrote books, if that is a con then every public speaker and author is a con man....
Madz1987 1 year ago
Great work... religion is useless
waqasanees 1 year ago 20
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I do not know why, but almost ALL great thinker of our time have got everything right and figured out. Except the fact that they don't beleive in god.
And yes man has invented god for their needs, but if one religion is wrong and foolish, does it mean that ALL the others are as well.
I am sorry Jiddu that you died not knowing the truth, may Allah forgive you.
88dragons88 2 years ago
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cskudzu 1 year ago
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He is not talking about if the God exists or not. You need to read his book named "On God" to fully understand his idea. What he means is that because our thought is limited so it invents God and it never connects to reality of God or Truth or Allah or any other name you call it. And God is unlimited so he can't be understood through limited thought and you need a whole new level of perception to understand God.
cskudzu 1 year ago
@cskudzu
I have no Idea why you were flagged, but this is probably the most friendly comment I received concerning religion. Thanx for your patience ;)
I agree with you totaly, God is beyond our thinking capabilities, so to question about him is quite foolish. But yet, one must totaly have "faith" to believe in God, we cannot see him, or have a conversation with him. But he hears us, sees us, and feels us. So "faith" is the only thing we have..
88dragons88 1 year ago
@88dragons88 Faith is all we have? Hmmmm, is faith needed for the earth to rotate, for the sun to assist in sustaining life?
jaymurtii 1 year ago 12
@jaymurtii No, obviously not. God doesn't need out faith in him, it is in fact us who need it. We need it in our "life", all the problems we go through and the peiople we lose. WE need Allah in our conscience, since he is the one who created us.
88dragons88 1 year ago
@88dragons88
You have completely missed the point Krishnamurti was speaking about. The problem with humanity is that we expect someone or some god to fix our problems for us or "guide us". You are your own salvation and no one else.
methosz 6 months ago 2
@jaymurtii And just so you know, the sun and the earth are not under our control, but they do those things necesary for our existence on earth became they have faith in Allah, everything in nature believe's in God. It is only us who rebel my friend.
88dragons88 1 year ago
@88dragons88 yeah sure the sun has a lower conscience and believes in another entity which never manifested itself to anyone dead or alive ?
Come on give us a break man :)
bestopl 1 year ago 2
@88dragons88 oh and in case you didn't see the video, J.K. explains exactly what you are saying a few posts below, i.e. it doesn't matter what you worship so you can invent Allah or anything that doesn't need any proof and start believing !
bestopl 1 year ago 2
@88dragons88
we are listening to something valuable , why are you putting your worthless quran here, take your Islamic brainwashing and BS some place else
blackutube1 1 year ago 2
@jaymurtii I believe people won't die. 5 mins later Damn it Fox news said people were dying in Afgan (Sad face) well back to the prayer 5minutes later more people died. Well What else to do forget religion Imma invent my own religion and that is pray that I don't die. 10 years later (I got shot) Religon is worthless but wait Im dead :> lol
KSATica 3 months ago
@88dragons88 your language anthropomorphizing what many people of theology call God. If you can't even transcend mere words in your own speech, then Truth cannot be seen, it will remain hidden. When Truth is known, Allah falls by the waist-side, all concepts dissolve, if clanged to, one remains under that conditioning, under illusion. To come to Truth means to transcend the illusions. Words are very limiting.
Amitaruci1 1 year ago 4
@88dragons88, brother he was also against Allah n Islam.
waqasanees 1 year ago
excellent speaker and one with sense too
Goodkarmasutrahere 2 years ago