i watched the full documentary. Funny how i cant find the fourth shot he toook from the same position, where the results were exactly the same as in the Zapruder film
To me, lookiing at the Zapruder film, the front of the head opens up significantly, indicating a shot from the back. If you look at it carefully, I think you will agree.
@skippy3860 thats assuming the z-film wasn't fixed and there is now credible evidence that it was worked on by cia, in the days after it was bought by Life magazine , the chain of custody of the few early copies made that night is well documented. ... remember the film was never seen publicly till 1976 ... not that that matters...check the film and look at the obvious matte placed in the back of the head , that red glop in front looks so phony .
@cruisersism First of all, it's not Moran, it's moron, and second, i think you have an anger management problem if you are screaming at me like this. Good luck to you.
Here's an analogy for those who don't seem to understand why it's EXTREMELY difficult to duplicate exactly SOMEONE ELSE's shot.
LHO, using a compound bow, scores a standard target bulls-eye. It's not a dead center bulls-eye, but it's just within the yellow inner circle.
Now, what this professional sniper (modern Robin Hood) has to do is the equivalent of splitting LHO's arrow. Huge, huge difference in the necessary precision and aptitude. And yet this guy does it on his next try.
Lee Harvey was controlling the bullet with his mind, thus, turning the bullet 90 degrees and hitting Martin Luther King. Then Captain Planet was shocked and traveled back in time too plant dynamite in Jfk's brain. In conclusion Jfk was killed by
I've seen many attempts to recreate the fatal head shot and what people tend to miss out (whether this be deliberate or accidental) is the "back and to the left" movement of Kennedy when he was shot. It's just not possible, based on the laws of physics, for him to move back and to the left if the shot came from anywhere else than from the front right.
@GazJ83 They always contend that a person will jerk in all sorts of ways when shot. Well that would mean he would've done so, well after the bullet hit, as a reaction to being hit. If you watch the Zapruder film, he moves back and to the left, EXACTLY when he's hit. It's clear that his head was simply moved by the force of the impact from a shot that came from the front right.
@GazJ83 Then how do your explain the finding of the nine forensic patholigists commissioned by the HSCA in 1979 who said in their report that there is no medical evidence showing the president was struck from the side or the front. All the entry wounds (there were 2) to the president came from behind and above? Are they part of the cover-up too?
@LoneNutter1 Well, yes quite frankly. I think it's quite obvious that there are so many details to this case that have been altered or misconstrued. You're basing your judgement and opinion on my comment based on official medical results and reports. Although you may not agree, I strongly believe that the autopsy photos were altered along with the 'official' autopsy report. To be perfectly honest, I don't think you need written proof to see that President Kennedy was shot from the front.
@GazJ83 If he was shot from the side how did the particulate matter spray all over Nellie and John Connolly and the Agents Kellerman and Greer who are all forward to the president? If he was shot from the right why was there no exit wound to the left side of his head? And if he were shot from the side how did the bullet fragments that were discovered in the limo all end up in front of the president? I've never heard of bullets fragmenting then reversing direction.
@LoneNutter1 I'm not insinuating that he was shot in the side of the head. I'm saying that I believe he was shot in the front right of the head, which would easily throw blood splatter forward as well as sideways. There was a huge exit wound in the back right of the head. I know it's not the left but if the skull is already weakened on this side, any "explosion" from within the skull would appear near to where the bullet exited, but on the side where the skull is weakest. It's basic physics.
@GazJ83 When I saw the Zapruder film I thought the same thing in regards to a frontal shot. However, after listening to and reading reports from experts in the field of bullet wounds it's become clear to be that JFK was shot from behind and what we're seeing are the bullet fragments exiting his skull. Upon closer examination experts have determined his head actually moves forward about 2 inches when the bullet strikes. This says the shot came from the back, not the front. High-contrast photos
@LoneNutter1 The thing is, I've read numerous reports that state the opposite of the reports you've read, again from credible sources and experts. It's just one of those cases where some people agree with one verdict whilst another group of people agree with the other. You have your beliefs and I have mine and there's nothing either of us can say to change each other's minds. I guess this is why this conspiracy theory will never die.
@GazJ83 of the Zapruder film frame when he's impacted and it shows the particulate matter all moving forward which adds more credibility being shot from the back. Bullet fragmants found in the car were from a full metal jacket round and one of the fragments was large enough to be ballistically matched to the rifle found on the 6th flor of the TSBD. I was once a believer in a conspiracy and more than one shooter. I no longer subscribe to that belief for many more reasons than I can relate here.
@LoneNutter1 I don't want to say that my beliefs are right and yours are wrong. Certainly not. I just happen to be siding with those who take the video evidence and the basic principles of physics and biology into consideration. These hold more truth for me than written evidence, but I do appreciate that not everyone would agree with my theory or the way in which I deduce this.
there were several witness' that day who said they had seen dust kick up near the grassy knowl at the time that the shots were heard...these people were disregarded right away
These tests are completely invalid. The limousine was a MOVING TARGET, not a stationary one. Is that simple enough for anyone to understand. I would hope so.
This argument reminds me of something that is known in science classes. If you are testing for something to be a certain way it will be but if you test it for something else it will be that too. (exp. light is both a wave and an item because they tested with with ways that would prove whatever hypothesis they were going for.) I think the bullet test can do the same. You want it to seem like it came from the front; do test specific for that and same for grassy knoll shots
Silly people: Have you considered that the back and to the left motion was caused by a muscle spasm, Kennedy reacting to having his brain blasted out of his skull?
This doc was rubbish i watched it they had good hi tech stuff but were to focused about the shot from behind they had there minds made up it was from behind. Waste of time im with KuriVaiM sniper team in Dallas that day.
Some of you MORONS just don't understand physics. When JFK was shot in the head, the bullet came from the back, NOT the front as one would assume. Now here why-- ( and google it for yourself) When a bullet enters an objects with the right consistency such as a watermelon, a cantolope, or the human head etc.., it will create a vaccuum as it exits pushing the object in the OPPOSITE direction from where the bullet is traveling.
@mblueRiven um thats google hog wash he was shot from the grassy hill and the government killed him.There was even a eye witness marine who saw dust come from there
rubbish!!!!...the assassination videos show, jfk being push violently backwards, when the head shot hit him which means, something with a powerful force in it hit him from the front.
ALL doctors & nurses that treated JFK at parkland ALL say there was a huge EXIT wound in the BACK of JFK's head.Check out the statement of ER nurse Pat Hutton from 11-22-63,it was classified as Top Secret for decades.Seems "someone" didnt want any truth leaking out.
@themeaningoflife38 if an exit wound was found in the BACK of his head then his head would have jerked forward when he was shot. the tape shows his head flying backwards
@ITSGM4N The head would go the same direction the shot came from.His head goes back from the direction of the stockade fence.Just like it someone threw a baseball at your head,it would be knocked back the same direction it was thrown from.
@themeaningoflife38 oops i just read my comment back to myself and i typed it wrong yea your right there but his head jerked back wouldnt that have meant the shooter was in front of him?
@ITSGM4N Yes his head moves back away from the picket fence area.ALL doctors & nurses at parkland said he had 2 entrance wounds from the front.One in the throat and one in the right temple and exit wound in the rear.
@ITSGM4N There were shots fired from the book depository also,but no proof that oswald did.Eyewitness Arnold Rowland saw a man in the southwest 6th floor window with a 30-06 rifle.Oswald was allegedly in the southeast window.
@anteracmacash FBI & CIA didnt fail they did a great job killing the President and covering it up.What makes it so personal to you anyway? Are you a right wing extremist?
Members of Brigade 2506 and JMWAVE are photographed in Dealey Plaza that day.Col Robert Jones admitted to HSCA that he sent 12 intelligence officers to dealey plaza that day.One of them found in TSBD after the shooting.All FACTS that name calling cant change. HA HA
@themeaningoflife38 yeah...you're the one ignoring facts and a little thing called physics and you call me stupid...now pour your self a nice hot cup of "shut the fuck up"...
@themeaningoflife38 NO ALL SHOTS WERE FORM OSWQALD ASSHOLE! THE ENTER SHOT WASI N THE BACK EXIT WAS INJ FRONT, DUDE IT ENTERED SMALL BECAUSE THE BACK OF THE SKULL IS STRONGER,SO THE BULLET CAME IN FROM THE BACK AND OPENING A HOLE IN HIS HEAD
@55758 you miss the whole point! this test was not to assess the skill of the shooter, but to examine the effects of a hit in the same place that the assassin struck, with the same relative trajectories. That is why so much effort was made to duplicate the skull etc.
This guy used a better rifle and a better telescope and he could not duplicate what Oswald did. I want to believe Oswald did it and that he acted alone but this crap is a joke. Case open!!!
LHO didn't do that well. Missed the target (JFK's head) 2 times out of 3. Fact that no one'sdone EXACTLY what Oswald did
proves "You can't reproduce the unique." IOW people have done much better, but haven't done EXACTLY what Oswald did. In USMC, LHO hit 10" bullseye 8 times out of 10, standing position at 200 YDS. At Dealey Plaza: 1 out of 3, w/a more secure sitting position, longest shot 88 YDS; last shot basically a stationary shot, since car moving downhill roughly parallel to line of shot.
the point was to reproduce the results of LHO. Bottom line, since his objective was to kill JFK he only had a headshot in one of three. Yardley did reproduce the head shot
your right...he didnt duplicate what happen...JFKs car was moving but here not.he had enough time to place the shoot but oswald not....this test is realy a crap
for all intents an porpuses. Jfk was a statioanary target , he was going awat at 11 mph in a straight line with a 3 degree declination which eliminates the need to raise the rifle constantly and again the point was to REPRODUCE THE RESULTS of LHO and it was succesful, even with all the evidence againt LHO
TSBD EMPLOYEE ROLE CALL AFTER ASSASSINATION Adams/Arnold/Burns/Campbell/Davis/ Dean/Dorman/Dougherty/Garner/Hawkins/ Hines/Hoyt/Molina/Moore/Lawrence/ Lovelady/Parkers/Piper/Rachley/Reese/ Reid/Romach/Sanders/Shelley/Slack/ Stanton/Styles/Truly/Williams x2/Wilson AFAA : ACCOUNTED FOR AFTER ASSASSINATION OSWALD : MAA : MISSING AFTER ASSASSINATION :-(Paste conspiracy's sad face here)-:
I'm no expert but the bullet that entered the Occipital-parietal was a steel jacket bullet. There were no traces of copper in JFK's remaining brain tissue.
if you study the photographs carefully you can see the small entry wound in the back of the head then the large exit wound in the right side above and in front of his right ear
Yes, back Ocipital. CE399 then had to be a steel jacket round. The steel jacket round was the shot independantly of 2 copper ject rounds. The "MC" fired copper jacket rounds. I'm looking to see if there were any bullet fragments in the remaining brain tissue but I don't think there was any fragments.
I'm sorry you were right It was just before they hit dealey plaza...It's just sad that you can't trust anyone, you try to change this world for the better and look what's happened.JFK:Assassation Secret Service Standown via youtube.
"There were things that should have been done differently. There were mistakes made. But I know of no facts that have been brought to light which would call for a reassessment of the conclusion.
I'm fundamentally satisfied with the findings of the Warren Commission Report."
Did you notice that in the actual footage of JFK being shot the Secret Service agent that was riding on the back of the car was instructed by the car following the limo to get off...He turns to the driver with his hands up in shock like WTF...He then begins jogging with the car n that's when JFK gets hit...Then he jumps on the back of the limo trying to get to Jackie..Claims have been made stating Jackie was actually trying to collect the matter splattered on the trunk of the car...
This experiment DOES conclusively prove that a high, rear shot as if by the TSD would not cause skull, blood and brain fragments to be dispersed in the left-rear manner as actually occurred on Nov. 22, 1961, where the MC police outrigger was struck with blood & bone, and where a large portion of JFK's skull was ejected onto the lawn and another was retrieved by Jackie on the trunk. Also, the model's head is propelled forward by the momentum of the bullet striking the hard, dense casing.
Where the hell did you get left and rear from when the Z-film clearly shows all brain and tissue matter being ejected in a forward and upwards manner ?
Any back splash towards the rear would of been due to the limo driving into a 25mph headwind that was reported that day by meteorologists . AND THERE IS NO PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF THAT JACKIE PICKED ANYTHING OFF THE TRUNK , THE BRAIN MATTER HANDED TO THE DR'S AT PH WAS FROM HER CRADDLING JFK'S HEAD IN ROUTE .
Ok kooktarts take a breath , the bs level is way above normal :
No bullet fired from any gun ever designed can propell a person "back and to the left" . The bullet enters and exits the head so fast (milli-seconds) that very little energy is emparted to the skull itself . Any GN shot would of blown out the rear left part of JFK's skull . All fragments of the skull bullet were found in the front compartments of limo .
Oh, that's FUNNY -- your theory that 'speed' determines whether momentum is imparted. Taken to its natural absurd conclusion then, if a bullet travels fast enough it will pass completely through an object like a head without disturbing it. Striking something like dense bone, of course a bullet will impart a good percentage of its mass-momentum causing the head to deflect along the bullet's trajectory. This is especially true since the head has a single pivot point via the neck. Basic physics.
not true, debris went in all directions, clint hill stated that jackie was retrieving a portion of the skull on trunk.......25 mile an hour wind is a breeze and driver almost came to a stop prior to headshot.....hargis said blood and guts hit his bike windshield with great force.....you guys always say ohhh 25 mile an hour wind.....thats nothing but an exageration......
Jackie was in a sste of temporary amnesia , she doesn't even remember going out on the trunk , she was probably trying to escape the vehicle and if you look closely , something you have not done , Hill reaches out to grab hold of her hand to steady himself and she withdraws her hand , offeres no assistance , seeing her escape route has been blocked , she retuns to her seat .
When crimes occurs in the 'real world' , the list suspects/motives is pared down as evidence works to exculpate the innocent & incriminate the guilty . When this crime occured & JFK toother criminals 'Hi-Jacked History' , list suspects/motives :
EXPANDED & CONTINUES TO EXPAND TO THIS DAY !
WHY ?
As always because more $ could be made on video's , speaking engagements & books if the list suspects is endless & is based upon unfounded speculation atop a mountain of flawed reasoning .
The limo came nowhere near a full stop as you suggest erroneously , It slowed appox 5 mph to 7 mph per the many studies done on the movements including but not limited to :
I give u credit cddd, but the million dollar question is how did oswald fire a succesion of shots that were reported by many including police ........Bang........................Bang Bang
Usually it only means the case is not solved Look at all the theories about Hoffa's disappearance or death. And we still don't know what happened in the Gulf of Tonkin.
12 mph......not true my friend witnesses: driver brought car to almost a complete stop turned to look at prez and excellerated after head shot........
the shot hit him in thr front of the head. its obvious his head moves back. your head doesnt move toward an object when it hits you. it moves the same direction. the blood flew out the back of his head as the bullet exited the back of his head. it gathered material going through hi head and flung it out the back. this is simple physics
@KuriVaiM Are you stupid? Did you have a look at the other vid? The head literally becomes obliterated from the grassy knoll with a soft point round and a Winchester. This is not shown in the footage. Grassy knoll is out of the question.
@KuriVaiM eh no what really happend was everyone in the city had a special gun that shot a micro gram of metal they all shot there guns at the same time towards JFK so when they hit him in the head because all the guns shot at the same time in the same direction they formed a bullet in mid air which is how they killed JFK. There you go people the TRUTH OPEN YOUR EYES
@Rosehill22will The 1st thing to understand is the Zapruder film is a phony altered film. I don't mean the real one that we will never be allowed to say. Take a better look at it. See the agents in the front seat lurch forward more than once? That is either the driver putting on the brakes, or they are keeping the beat to Rock&Roll music on the radio.
Did the Kennedy's lurch forward at the same time? Remember, there are NO seat belt in cars in 1963. And not in the limo. Look at limo pics.
In this reenactment, notice that the head debris is flying forward. In the Zapruder film, however, it's flying backward. That, alone, renders this experiment bogus. But notice, also, that this experimental gunshot pushes the model's head in a forward direction while Kennedy's head was clearly thrown backward on the Zapruder film.
if this show really wanted to prove it. like any 5th grade science project, why not test all hypothesis and try a shot from where the grassy knoll would be. try some from the 2nd/3rd floor dal tex building. try some from the sewer and some from the overpass. dont just do it 1 way with 100s of tries and because one looks alike say its perfect, thats how it happened.
you must be kidding me Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't the one who did it, the explosive shot to JFK's head was in front of him not behind him. Go watch JFK II the bush connection already
This have something to do with the way he was seated at his wife.. the shot did not hit him straight from behind.. the shot came from up and to the right.. this would say that he should fall down to the left.. but he couldn't because of the way he was seated.. the force had to go somewere and then pushed him back again.. back and to the left..
Back and to the left. He was seated facing forward already hit by a bullet to his throat. He was hit to the right of the head and was pushed left first. then back. his head turned to the left, were his neck gave way and his head went back. his body then followed. so blast4me, if what you say is right. His head would have exploded. sorry, no proof for the consperacy theory makes sence. But its a free country say whatever you want. But when you think about it, lho(aka low) had shot all three. bye.
what sort of half-arsed re-creation is this ??????Kennedy wasnt shot in a stationary vehicle out in the desert with a big red target on his head.....crapppppppppppppppppp
Check out The 488th Military Intelligence Unit.Deputy Police Chief George Lumpkin was a member along with 50 other Dallas Policemen.Check out Jack Crichton-Lt Col George Whitmeyer-David Bryd
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Lumpkin and Whitmeyer are a dead end. You're relying too heavily on Marrs and Groden/Livingston. They rode in the pilot car, and did nothing unexpected that day, apart from bend the rules a bit in order to get Whitmeyer a seat in the car. Cryptic references to "sinister affiliations" is not enough to draw conclusions about them, particularly since they had to know that their own participation in the motorcade would undoubtedly result in them being severely questioned.
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approximately 4 frames of the "camera original" film were damaged by Life Magazine, but don't forget that Zapruder, being a shrewd fellow, made 2 additional first generation copies that same day, which were undamaged. The missing frames occur when the limo is behind the sign, for better or worse, so it's perhaps fortunate that they probably didn't eliminate any important details (unless perhaps an alien came down and blasted JFK with a ray gun, then instantly disappeared)
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Ah, but if you include the frames immediately before and after, which would have been necessarily altered slightly in order to make a splice, we're back to 4. NYAH! ;-)
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Hmmm...we may be thinking of different frames. I am referring to the missing frames from the "full frame sprocket-hole view" (or whatever we're calling it) which omits frames 208-211 (at least partially) I'll plead ignorance here, but my version doesn't show any problems with 190-192.
Whatever the frame-numbers or the issues with missing frames, the fact remains (as you'll agree) that everyone acknowledges that A: LIFE damaged a copy of the film, and B: The original shows no damage.
The film is intact and cannot have been altered or tampered with, as it's E-4 Chrome, which is a dye process. Any attempt at any type of alteration would be instantly noticed by the rankest amateur. Even today, it would be nearly impossible.
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Indeed, I'm not arguing that at all. Just a little friendly nit-picking about frame numbers, etc. Any detailed examination of the Z-film and its chain of evidence makes it patently obvious that it was not altered. But as long as we're nitpicking, I'll mention that the Z-film was in fact KODACHROME (K-14 process) and not E-4 Ektachrome (i.e. slide film) process. Had Zap shot with Ektachrome, the processing would have been much quicker, but K-14 required a trip to Kodak.
Dang, our fascinating dialogue between E-4 and K-14 film processes has been spammed out of existence, Feanor! How's a low-level spook like me supposed to spread the word?!?!
KodaChrome II just went off the market after 75 years. So long, 4-E Process ... we hardly knew ye.
Yes yes, the Spammer-Thumb has been dropped. Notice however, that curt and glib Californian's get more of this action than smooth, reasonable (and good-looking) NorthEasterners.
Did u not just watch this video??? Watch it again. The dummy is shot from the rear but pieces of the dummy skull and head clearly travel in all directions, including backwards!
JFK had 2 entrance wounds one in the front of his throat and one in the right temple.ALL the ER doctors at Parkland that treated JFK agree on this FACT.There was a bullet hole in the windshield from the front.Anything shown on American TV will only support the WC lie because of "Operation Mockingbird".Also look up The 488th Military Intelligence Unit/Jack Crichton/George Lumpkin/Lt Col George Whitmeyer.
Gerald Ford admitted that he moved the back wound up 5 inches.Anyone who chooses to can go watch the ER doctors testimony.The back wound most likely came from the 7.65 Mauser on the 6th floor.The parafin test on Oswald was negative which means he fired NO weapon that day.
i watched the full documentary. Funny how i cant find the fourth shot he toook from the same position, where the results were exactly the same as in the Zapruder film
Hellsong95 1 month ago
People also forget that Kennedy was wearing a steel backbrace in that car..which left him a sitting duck after the neck shot.
clev9980 4 months ago
CIA evil rats
cruisersism 6 months ago
To me, lookiing at the Zapruder film, the front of the head opens up significantly, indicating a shot from the back. If you look at it carefully, I think you will agree.
skippy3860 8 months ago
@skippy3860 thats assuming the z-film wasn't fixed and there is now credible evidence that it was worked on by cia, in the days after it was bought by Life magazine , the chain of custody of the few early copies made that night is well documented. ... remember the film was never seen publicly till 1976 ... not that that matters...check the film and look at the obvious matte placed in the back of the head , that red glop in front looks so phony .
fitz715 7 months ago
@skippy3860 i think NOT you blind Moran, DID YOU HAVE A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEP LATELY?
cruisersism 6 months ago
@cruisersism First of all, it's not Moran, it's moron, and second, i think you have an anger management problem if you are screaming at me like this. Good luck to you.
skippy3860 6 months ago
his head doesnt move though
wwerocks200000 9 months ago
Typical Discovery Channel CIA garbage.
LongLiveOx 9 months ago 3
@LongLiveOx hahahahahahahaha thats a funny joke you just told xD
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the head didint go back like it did in the zapurder film
wwerocks200000 11 months ago
the head didint go back like it did in the zapurder film wtf
wwerocks200000 11 months ago
Here's an analogy for those who don't seem to understand why it's EXTREMELY difficult to duplicate exactly SOMEONE ELSE's shot.
LHO, using a compound bow, scores a standard target bulls-eye. It's not a dead center bulls-eye, but it's just within the yellow inner circle.
Now, what this professional sniper (modern Robin Hood) has to do is the equivalent of splitting LHO's arrow. Huge, huge difference in the necessary precision and aptitude. And yet this guy does it on his next try.
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demothership 1 year ago
Che senso ha questa ricostruzione?? La macchina non è in movimento, il manichino è statico, questa prova non dimostra assolutamente niente...
oioia100 1 year ago
0:23 misses the exact impact point? well duh!! the shot came from the front.
ChristianHolloway7 1 year ago
@ChristianHolloway7 No, It came from the back. From the 6th story window or not, it came from the back.
xARYNNx920 10 months ago
@xARYNNx920 Get a fucking grip. Of course it came from the front. lol
ChristianHolloway7 10 months ago
@ChristianHolloway7 Get a fucking grip YOU BLIND MORAN, or perhaps the TSBD moved to the front of JFK
cruisersism 6 months ago
@cruisersism lol dummy!
ChristianHolloway7 6 months ago
Head goes forward first, impossible from a shot form the knoll. Exit wound is the blood spray. Case closed, no shot from grassy knoll.
orvillegames1966 1 year ago 8
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Splint199308 1 year ago
the sniper is a spy!
TheKidTrio 1 year ago
Hardly a Sharpshooter if he aimed off of the where his shot was intended to go and its wasnt a moving target.
bullseatpizza 1 year ago
Lee Harvey was controlling the bullet with his mind, thus, turning the bullet 90 degrees and hitting Martin Luther King. Then Captain Planet was shocked and traveled back in time too plant dynamite in Jfk's brain. In conclusion Jfk was killed by
D-Y-N-O-O-M-Y-T-E!!!!!!!!
Ex101 1 year ago
precision :" third shot missed from grassy knoll "
TheSupertrampe 1 year ago
HSCA told that there were probably 4 shots from 2 hitmen and that the third shot missed his target .
we are not advanced ..but oswald seemed to be a patsy
TheSupertrampe 1 year ago
The man is dead!
Pointless debating who, why or what!!!
hearts76100 1 year ago
There was a tree in bloom how do you get an accurate shot from there to jfk
elliebunns1 1 year ago
I've seen many attempts to recreate the fatal head shot and what people tend to miss out (whether this be deliberate or accidental) is the "back and to the left" movement of Kennedy when he was shot. It's just not possible, based on the laws of physics, for him to move back and to the left if the shot came from anywhere else than from the front right.
GazJ83 1 year ago
@GazJ83 They always contend that a person will jerk in all sorts of ways when shot. Well that would mean he would've done so, well after the bullet hit, as a reaction to being hit. If you watch the Zapruder film, he moves back and to the left, EXACTLY when he's hit. It's clear that his head was simply moved by the force of the impact from a shot that came from the front right.
Jatycre 1 year ago
@GazJ83 Then how do your explain the finding of the nine forensic patholigists commissioned by the HSCA in 1979 who said in their report that there is no medical evidence showing the president was struck from the side or the front. All the entry wounds (there were 2) to the president came from behind and above? Are they part of the cover-up too?
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Well, yes quite frankly. I think it's quite obvious that there are so many details to this case that have been altered or misconstrued. You're basing your judgement and opinion on my comment based on official medical results and reports. Although you may not agree, I strongly believe that the autopsy photos were altered along with the 'official' autopsy report. To be perfectly honest, I don't think you need written proof to see that President Kennedy was shot from the front.
GazJ83 1 year ago
@GazJ83 If he was shot from the side how did the particulate matter spray all over Nellie and John Connolly and the Agents Kellerman and Greer who are all forward to the president? If he was shot from the right why was there no exit wound to the left side of his head? And if he were shot from the side how did the bullet fragments that were discovered in the limo all end up in front of the president? I've never heard of bullets fragmenting then reversing direction.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 I'm not insinuating that he was shot in the side of the head. I'm saying that I believe he was shot in the front right of the head, which would easily throw blood splatter forward as well as sideways. There was a huge exit wound in the back right of the head. I know it's not the left but if the skull is already weakened on this side, any "explosion" from within the skull would appear near to where the bullet exited, but on the side where the skull is weakest. It's basic physics.
GazJ83 1 year ago
@GazJ83 When I saw the Zapruder film I thought the same thing in regards to a frontal shot. However, after listening to and reading reports from experts in the field of bullet wounds it's become clear to be that JFK was shot from behind and what we're seeing are the bullet fragments exiting his skull. Upon closer examination experts have determined his head actually moves forward about 2 inches when the bullet strikes. This says the shot came from the back, not the front. High-contrast photos
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 The thing is, I've read numerous reports that state the opposite of the reports you've read, again from credible sources and experts. It's just one of those cases where some people agree with one verdict whilst another group of people agree with the other. You have your beliefs and I have mine and there's nothing either of us can say to change each other's minds. I guess this is why this conspiracy theory will never die.
GazJ83 1 year ago
@GazJ83 Finaly somebody else who thinks like I do.
Valkmir 1 year ago
@GazJ83 of the Zapruder film frame when he's impacted and it shows the particulate matter all moving forward which adds more credibility being shot from the back. Bullet fragmants found in the car were from a full metal jacket round and one of the fragments was large enough to be ballistically matched to the rifle found on the 6th flor of the TSBD. I was once a believer in a conspiracy and more than one shooter. I no longer subscribe to that belief for many more reasons than I can relate here.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 I don't want to say that my beliefs are right and yours are wrong. Certainly not. I just happen to be siding with those who take the video evidence and the basic principles of physics and biology into consideration. These hold more truth for me than written evidence, but I do appreciate that not everyone would agree with my theory or the way in which I deduce this.
GazJ83 1 year ago
those guys are republicans
Clown5336 1 year ago
EVERYONE GOOGLE SEARCH "FAMILIAR FACES IN DEALEY PLAZA" AND SEE CIA AGENTS AND BAY OF PIGS VETS STANDING IN DEALEY PLAZA.
BUT BE CAREFUL "THEY" ARE WATCHING US.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
This is just another 2 bit cover up. That is why they avoid a shot from the driver
with a low caliber pistol. William Cooper shows the truth.
dukeof1999 1 year ago
there were several witness' that day who said they had seen dust kick up near the grassy knowl at the time that the shots were heard...these people were disregarded right away
dommer117 1 year ago
@dommer117
watch the film...
grettoz 1 year ago
These tests are completely invalid. The limousine was a MOVING TARGET, not a stationary one. Is that simple enough for anyone to understand. I would hope so.
RockDoctorLV 1 year ago
@RockDoctorLV
its been proven moving & stationary, from behind & above..
grettoz 1 year ago
This argument reminds me of something that is known in science classes. If you are testing for something to be a certain way it will be but if you test it for something else it will be that too. (exp. light is both a wave and an item because they tested with with ways that would prove whatever hypothesis they were going for.) I think the bullet test can do the same. You want it to seem like it came from the front; do test specific for that and same for grassy knoll shots
Spooner82 1 year ago
Silly people: Have you considered that the back and to the left motion was caused by a muscle spasm, Kennedy reacting to having his brain blasted out of his skull?
elvisgreenchina 1 year ago
Just as I thought. The head DID NOT go back and to the left. To do that you have to fire from the front
ElevenMileRecords 1 year ago
Keeronin iam talking about that day when last real American president was murdered and how it was carry d out on 11/22/1963 not about this video
KuriVaiM 1 year ago
This doc was rubbish i watched it they had good hi tech stuff but were to focused about the shot from behind they had there minds made up it was from behind. Waste of time im with KuriVaiM sniper team in Dallas that day.
RADDA77 1 year ago
Some of you MORONS just don't understand physics. When JFK was shot in the head, the bullet came from the back, NOT the front as one would assume. Now here why-- ( and google it for yourself) When a bullet enters an objects with the right consistency such as a watermelon, a cantolope, or the human head etc.., it will create a vaccuum as it exits pushing the object in the OPPOSITE direction from where the bullet is traveling.
mblueRiven 1 year ago
@mblueRiven um thats google hog wash he was shot from the grassy hill and the government killed him.There was even a eye witness marine who saw dust come from there
TheGloryfighter1000 1 year ago
check out the official cia document on how to deal with JFK facts.
#1035-960
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
rubbish!!!!...the assassination videos show, jfk being push violently backwards, when the head shot hit him which means, something with a powerful force in it hit him from the front.
tkgeezy01 1 year ago
ALL doctors & nurses that treated JFK at parkland ALL say there was a huge EXIT wound in the BACK of JFK's head.Check out the statement of ER nurse Pat Hutton from 11-22-63,it was classified as Top Secret for decades.Seems "someone" didnt want any truth leaking out.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago 14
@themeaningoflife38 if an exit wound was found in the BACK of his head then his head would have jerked forward when he was shot. the tape shows his head flying backwards
ITSGM4N 1 year ago
@ITSGM4N The head would go the same direction the shot came from.His head goes back from the direction of the stockade fence.Just like it someone threw a baseball at your head,it would be knocked back the same direction it was thrown from.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 oops i just read my comment back to myself and i typed it wrong yea your right there but his head jerked back wouldnt that have meant the shooter was in front of him?
ITSGM4N 1 year ago
@ITSGM4N Yes his head moves back away from the picket fence area.ALL doctors & nurses at parkland said he had 2 entrance wounds from the front.One in the throat and one in the right temple and exit wound in the rear.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 ohhh so he couldnt have been shot from the book depository like it was thought
ITSGM4N 1 year ago
@ITSGM4N There were shots fired from the book depository also,but no proof that oswald did.Eyewitness Arnold Rowland saw a man in the southwest 6th floor window with a 30-06 rifle.Oswald was allegedly in the southeast window.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 ooooo i see ty for telling me that
ITSGM4N 1 year ago
@ITSGM4N
Thats correct.
The motion of Kennedy's head after impact indicates a shot originated from the right front of the car.
seth917 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 but FBI and CIA have failed and now the entire world knows thanks to "themeaningoflife38"...get a life you pathetic little weasel
anteracmacash 1 year ago
@anteracmacash FBI & CIA didnt fail they did a great job killing the President and covering it up.What makes it so personal to you anyway? Are you a right wing extremist?
Members of Brigade 2506 and JMWAVE are photographed in Dealey Plaza that day.Col Robert Jones admitted to HSCA that he sent 12 intelligence officers to dealey plaza that day.One of them found in TSBD after the shooting.All FACTS that name calling cant change. HA HA
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 funny how you call you dellusions "facts"...get a life douchebag
anteracmacash 1 year ago
@anteracmacash funny how you're stupid
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 yeah...you're the one ignoring facts and a little thing called physics and you call me stupid...now pour your self a nice hot cup of "shut the fuck up"...
anteracmacash 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 where did you find that out?
CameronS654321 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 NO ALL SHOTS WERE FORM OSWQALD ASSHOLE! THE ENTER SHOT WASI N THE BACK EXIT WAS INJ FRONT, DUDE IT ENTERED SMALL BECAUSE THE BACK OF THE SKULL IS STRONGER,SO THE BULLET CAME IN FROM THE BACK AND OPENING A HOLE IN HIS HEAD
MrZombiekiller23 1 year ago
@MrZombiekiller23 you know better than the doctors i take it
imasoulman01 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 Why does Kennedys head go forward then back? blood spray in front is exit wound.
orvillegames1966 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 look at the autopsy pic there is no exit hole in the back
spartan4226 10 months ago
that actually looks pretty similar to what happend. but i want to see them recreate the back and to the left bit.
N3XU551X 1 year ago
wow thats looks cool
SuperZombieFucker 1 year ago
@55758 you miss the whole point! this test was not to assess the skill of the shooter, but to examine the effects of a hit in the same place that the assassin struck, with the same relative trajectories. That is why so much effort was made to duplicate the skull etc.
pzdarter 2 years ago
Radio is free.
Ypipable 2 years ago
The Discovery Channel? More like trying to rip my community off while you run to the bank.
Ypipable 2 years ago
@Ypipable that made no sense...
138NProgress 2 years ago
try to think of a carrier pigeon with a hatchet.
Ypipable 2 years ago
the head shot came from the building across the street from the TSBD
blazed24sevn 2 years ago
This guy used a better rifle and a better telescope and he could not duplicate what Oswald did. I want to believe Oswald did it and that he acted alone but this crap is a joke. Case open!!!
isortparcels 2 years ago
LHO didn't do that well. Missed the target (JFK's head) 2 times out of 3. Fact that no one'sdone EXACTLY what Oswald did
proves "You can't reproduce the unique." IOW people have done much better, but haven't done EXACTLY what Oswald did. In USMC, LHO hit 10" bullseye 8 times out of 10, standing position at 200 YDS. At Dealey Plaza: 1 out of 3, w/a more secure sitting position, longest shot 88 YDS; last shot basically a stationary shot, since car moving downhill roughly parallel to line of shot.
filthyphillyboy 2 years ago
the point was to reproduce the results of LHO. Bottom line, since his objective was to kill JFK he only had a headshot in one of three. Yardley did reproduce the head shot
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
your right...he didnt duplicate what happen...JFKs car was moving but here not.he had enough time to place the shoot but oswald not....this test is realy a crap
55758 2 years ago
UMMMMM the target is stationary......just a little detail left out.........
migo53333 2 years ago 13
for all intents an porpuses. Jfk was a statioanary target , he was going awat at 11 mph in a straight line with a 3 degree declination which eliminates the need to raise the rifle constantly and again the point was to REPRODUCE THE RESULTS of LHO and it was succesful, even with all the evidence againt LHO
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
@migo53333 there for he had all the time in the world to take the shot. and the riffle doesnt look the same.
0union0 1 year ago
Discovery Network -
Sponsored by: Another CIA Asset, Inc.
There is no "BACK and TO THE LEFT" on this CIA created video.
IF a second gunman shot this CIA production way...IF pigs could fly... this would be the result. LOLOLOL !
Because there is no BACK and TO THE LEFT and head intact like on the Zapruder film, this is not the way it could happen.
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cdddraftman 2 years ago
So does this prove he wasnt hit from the back?? What a load of Sh!t this is.
olshwa 2 years ago
This video is insulting to our intelligence.
Good grief.
Orange Head
Real scientific
Lets believe this too
pluscoq10 2 years ago
that foolishness got RFK killed
He should have stood up against the CIA
He should have had someone "watch his back"
There was no way the CIA was going to let JFK brother into the Whitehouse
Besides, killing JFK was just as much about getting rid of RFK
And ending a Kennedy Dynasty
The Kennedies public stand on JFK murder mean nothing.
It would be pretty shamefull if the world knew that Kennedy was removed physically from office
pluscoq10 2 years ago
Amazing how much the shot at 0:19 looks almost identical to what we see in the Zap film.
drummist65 2 years ago
the difference is that here the bullet glanced off instead of entering from the back
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
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cdddraftsman 2 years ago
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
preaching to the choir buddy
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
I'm no expert but the bullet that entered the Occipital-parietal was a steel jacket bullet. There were no traces of copper in JFK's remaining brain tissue.
envaneo 2 years ago
if you study the photographs carefully you can see the small entry wound in the back of the head then the large exit wound in the right side above and in front of his right ear
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
the bullet entered the back of his head study the pics
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
Yes, back Ocipital. CE399 then had to be a steel jacket round. The steel jacket round was the shot independantly of 2 copper ject rounds. The "MC" fired copper jacket rounds. I'm looking to see if there were any bullet fragments in the remaining brain tissue but I don't think there was any fragments.
Thanks for the reply :-)
envaneo 2 years ago
I'm sorry you were right It was just before they hit dealey plaza...It's just sad that you can't trust anyone, you try to change this world for the better and look what's happened.JFK:Assassation Secret Service Standown via youtube.
PiruCPT 2 years ago
"There were things that should have been done differently. There were mistakes made. But I know of no facts that have been brought to light which would call for a reassessment of the conclusion.
I'm fundamentally satisfied with the findings of the Warren Commission Report."
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Then you know less then 1% of the situation. Sorry man, but that is the fact.
lnfiniteIntelligence 2 years ago
"JFK:Assassation Secret Service Standown"
I see you're easily bested by bedtime story's for kiddies ... Tooooo bad ....
That bullshit was debunked by conspiracist's themselves back in the 1960's .....
Wa happen ?
Read the sign dude :
No recycling of JFK con-spiracy trash talk allowed ....
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Did you notice that in the actual footage of JFK being shot the Secret Service agent that was riding on the back of the car was instructed by the car following the limo to get off...He turns to the driver with his hands up in shock like WTF...He then begins jogging with the car n that's when JFK gets hit...Then he jumps on the back of the limo trying to get to Jackie..Claims have been made stating Jackie was actually trying to collect the matter splattered on the trunk of the car...
PiruCPT 2 years ago
no my friend that footage was when they were leaving the airport.....he got shot in dealy plaza....
migo53333 2 years ago
This experiment DOES conclusively prove that a high, rear shot as if by the TSD would not cause skull, blood and brain fragments to be dispersed in the left-rear manner as actually occurred on Nov. 22, 1961, where the MC police outrigger was struck with blood & bone, and where a large portion of JFK's skull was ejected onto the lawn and another was retrieved by Jackie on the trunk. Also, the model's head is propelled forward by the momentum of the bullet striking the hard, dense casing.
starmanskye 2 years ago
Where the hell did you get left and rear from when the Z-film clearly shows all brain and tissue matter being ejected in a forward and upwards manner ?
Any back splash towards the rear would of been due to the limo driving into a 25mph headwind that was reported that day by meteorologists . AND THERE IS NO PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF THAT JACKIE PICKED ANYTHING OFF THE TRUNK , THE BRAIN MATTER HANDED TO THE DR'S AT PH WAS FROM HER CRADDLING JFK'S HEAD IN ROUTE .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
clint hill said she was going after a chunk of the presidents skull...........
migo53333 2 years ago
i disagree. she was trying to help that agent into the car...he had just jumped up on the trunk to help.
lilbromarky1 2 years ago
Ok kooktarts take a breath , the bs level is way above normal :
No bullet fired from any gun ever designed can propell a person "back and to the left" . The bullet enters and exits the head so fast (milli-seconds) that very little energy is emparted to the skull itself . Any GN shot would of blown out the rear left part of JFK's skull . All fragments of the skull bullet were found in the front compartments of limo .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Oh, that's FUNNY -- your theory that 'speed' determines whether momentum is imparted. Taken to its natural absurd conclusion then, if a bullet travels fast enough it will pass completely through an object like a head without disturbing it. Striking something like dense bone, of course a bullet will impart a good percentage of its mass-momentum causing the head to deflect along the bullet's trajectory. This is especially true since the head has a single pivot point via the neck. Basic physics.
starmanskye 2 years ago
not true, debris went in all directions, clint hill stated that jackie was retrieving a portion of the skull on trunk.......25 mile an hour wind is a breeze and driver almost came to a stop prior to headshot.....hargis said blood and guts hit his bike windshield with great force.....you guys always say ohhh 25 mile an hour wind.....thats nothing but an exageration......
migo53333 2 years ago
Sorry no photographic evidence of that . The Z-film shows the trunk as clean as a wistle .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Jackie was in a sste of temporary amnesia , she doesn't even remember going out on the trunk , she was probably trying to escape the vehicle and if you look closely , something you have not done , Hill reaches out to grab hold of her hand to steady himself and she withdraws her hand , offeres no assistance , seeing her escape route has been blocked , she retuns to her seat .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
25 mph head wind plus the speed of the vehicle at 12 mph equates to 37 mph .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
When crimes occurs in the 'real world' , the list suspects/motives is pared down as evidence works to exculpate the innocent & incriminate the guilty . When this crime occured & JFK toother criminals 'Hi-Jacked History' , list suspects/motives :
EXPANDED & CONTINUES TO EXPAND TO THIS DAY !
WHY ?
As always because more $ could be made on video's , speaking engagements & books if the list suspects is endless & is based upon unfounded speculation atop a mountain of flawed reasoning .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
where did 7 mph come from????
migo53333 2 years ago
The limo came nowhere near a full stop as you suggest erroneously , It slowed appox 5 mph to 7 mph per the many studies done on the movements including but not limited to :
Itek Corp.
Anthony Marsh (CTer)
HSCA
Dale Myers (LNer)
Etc. etc.
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Whats wrong ?
Is my barometric brilliance too much for you ?
I can always tune it down a bit :-)
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
I give u credit cddd, but the million dollar question is how did oswald fire a succesion of shots that were reported by many including police ........Bang........................Bang Bang
migo53333 2 years ago
Usually it only means the case is not solved Look at all the theories about Hoffa's disappearance or death. And we still don't know what happened in the Gulf of Tonkin.
TrueNovice 2 years ago
12 mph......not true my friend witnesses: driver brought car to almost a complete stop turned to look at prez and excellerated after head shot........
migo53333 2 years ago
12 mph was reduced to 7 mph + 25 is still 32 mph !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
cdd, ummmm i think we r getting a little too technical with your weather report.....
migo53333 2 years ago
the shot hit him in thr front of the head. its obvious his head moves back. your head doesnt move toward an object when it hits you. it moves the same direction. the blood flew out the back of his head as the bullet exited the back of his head. it gathered material going through hi head and flung it out the back. this is simple physics
adulby 2 years ago
fatal shot came from front right by grassy knoll area, there was al leaast 3 shooter teams at that day
KuriVaiM 2 years ago 7
@KuriVaiM Are you stupid? Did you have a look at the other vid? The head literally becomes obliterated from the grassy knoll with a soft point round and a Winchester. This is not shown in the footage. Grassy knoll is out of the question.
Keeronin 1 year ago
@KuriVaiM eh no what really happend was everyone in the city had a special gun that shot a micro gram of metal they all shot there guns at the same time towards JFK so when they hit him in the head because all the guns shot at the same time in the same direction they formed a bullet in mid air which is how they killed JFK. There you go people the TRUTH OPEN YOUR EYES
RavetodaGrave 1 year ago
@KuriVaiM okay i know there was a guy in a building and a guy in the grassy knoll
but what about tha driver, in the video he clearly holds out a gun tha same time jfk got shot...do u know anything about tha driver?
Rosehill22will 1 year ago
@Rosehill22will The 1st thing to understand is the Zapruder film is a phony altered film. I don't mean the real one that we will never be allowed to say. Take a better look at it. See the agents in the front seat lurch forward more than once? That is either the driver putting on the brakes, or they are keeping the beat to Rock&Roll music on the radio.
Did the Kennedy's lurch forward at the same time? Remember, there are NO seat belt in cars in 1963. And not in the limo. Look at limo pics.
jacobji5 1 year ago
@KuriVaiM
i suggest you watch the clip you have posted on!! it disproves exactly what you just wrote...
grettoz 1 year ago
:0 eek
:(
ComeTogether365 2 years ago
In this reenactment, notice that the head debris is flying forward. In the Zapruder film, however, it's flying backward. That, alone, renders this experiment bogus. But notice, also, that this experimental gunshot pushes the model's head in a forward direction while Kennedy's head was clearly thrown backward on the Zapruder film.
AlmeidaFan 2 years ago
if this show really wanted to prove it. like any 5th grade science project, why not test all hypothesis and try a shot from where the grassy knoll would be. try some from the 2nd/3rd floor dal tex building. try some from the sewer and some from the overpass. dont just do it 1 way with 100s of tries and because one looks alike say its perfect, thats how it happened.
pat442389 2 years ago
@pat442389 they actually do do the shot from the grassy knoll. They just don't do it in this clip
bgtwins153 2 years ago
JFK's head was filled with green slime. This video proves it!
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
you must be kidding me Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't the one who did it, the explosive shot to JFK's head was in front of him not behind him. Go watch JFK II the bush connection already
Blast4me420 2 years ago 2
The shot came from the back.. the bloodsplatter shows it..
Hansmajestet13 2 years ago
but when jfk got shot he went back so jfk wasnt shot from the back
yezziryezzir123 2 years ago 2
This have something to do with the way he was seated at his wife.. the shot did not hit him straight from behind.. the shot came from up and to the right.. this would say that he should fall down to the left.. but he couldn't because of the way he was seated.. the force had to go somewere and then pushed him back again.. back and to the left..
Hansmajestet13 2 years ago
Back and to the left. He was seated facing forward already hit by a bullet to his throat. He was hit to the right of the head and was pushed left first. then back. his head turned to the left, were his neck gave way and his head went back. his body then followed. so blast4me, if what you say is right. His head would have exploded. sorry, no proof for the consperacy theory makes sence. But its a free country say whatever you want. But when you think about it, lho(aka low) had shot all three. bye.
theblackmambe 2 years ago
what sort of half-arsed re-creation is this ??????Kennedy wasnt shot in a stationary vehicle out in the desert with a big red target on his head.....crapppppppppppppppppp
mugwamp4 2 years ago 2
Check out The 488th Military Intelligence Unit.Deputy Police Chief George Lumpkin was a member along with 50 other Dallas Policemen.Check out Jack Crichton-Lt Col George Whitmeyer-David Bryd
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
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Lumpkin and Whitmeyer are a dead end. You're relying too heavily on Marrs and Groden/Livingston. They rode in the pilot car, and did nothing unexpected that day, apart from bend the rules a bit in order to get Whitmeyer a seat in the car. Cryptic references to "sinister affiliations" is not enough to draw conclusions about them, particularly since they had to know that their own participation in the motorcade would undoubtedly result in them being severely questioned.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
c'mon, the zapruder film is edited ... the frames skip
HoRuSHoRiZoN 2 years ago
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approximately 4 frames of the "camera original" film were damaged by Life Magazine, but don't forget that Zapruder, being a shrewd fellow, made 2 additional first generation copies that same day, which were undamaged. The missing frames occur when the limo is behind the sign, for better or worse, so it's perhaps fortunate that they probably didn't eliminate any important details (unless perhaps an alien came down and blasted JFK with a ray gun, then instantly disappeared)
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
(Actually, it was only 2 frames, and they occur at around 190/192)
Sorry -- I couldn't resist ...
Feanor
10Feanor 2 years ago
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Ah, but if you include the frames immediately before and after, which would have been necessarily altered slightly in order to make a splice, we're back to 4. NYAH! ;-)
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
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Hmmm...we may be thinking of different frames. I am referring to the missing frames from the "full frame sprocket-hole view" (or whatever we're calling it) which omits frames 208-211 (at least partially) I'll plead ignorance here, but my version doesn't show any problems with 190-192.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
ShutterBun,
Whatever the frame-numbers or the issues with missing frames, the fact remains (as you'll agree) that everyone acknowledges that A: LIFE damaged a copy of the film, and B: The original shows no damage.
The film is intact and cannot have been altered or tampered with, as it's E-4 Chrome, which is a dye process. Any attempt at any type of alteration would be instantly noticed by the rankest amateur. Even today, it would be nearly impossible.
(More on this upon request)
Feanor
10Feanor 2 years ago
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Indeed, I'm not arguing that at all. Just a little friendly nit-picking about frame numbers, etc. Any detailed examination of the Z-film and its chain of evidence makes it patently obvious that it was not altered. But as long as we're nitpicking, I'll mention that the Z-film was in fact KODACHROME (K-14 process) and not E-4 Ektachrome (i.e. slide film) process. Had Zap shot with Ektachrome, the processing would have been much quicker, but K-14 required a trip to Kodak.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
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LOL!
(This is fun!)
10Feanor 2 years ago
Dang, our fascinating dialogue between E-4 and K-14 film processes has been spammed out of existence, Feanor! How's a low-level spook like me supposed to spread the word?!?!
P.S. LHO acted alone; prove me wrong, win $5.00
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
Historical Footnote:
KodaChrome II just went off the market after 75 years. So long, 4-E Process ... we hardly knew ye.
Yes yes, the Spammer-Thumb has been dropped. Notice however, that curt and glib Californian's get more of this action than smooth, reasonable (and good-looking) NorthEasterners.
Feanor
(aka: Agent Aeolus 14-Umbra)
10Feanor 2 years ago
he wasnt killed instantly
aaron234567890987643 2 years ago
after that shot he was.
not after the first/second but afte the head shot.
liltimmy1313 2 years ago
Brain dead - probably. But his heart was still beating at the hospital for some 20 minutes. So no he wasnt killed instantly
agentshep23 2 years ago
surely once yourbrain is dead thats it... you can never live again.. only on life support, which to me isnt living
braddux372 2 years ago
if he was shot from behind the why does jackie get out to pick up his peices of brain off the back of the limo?
cincykid421 2 years ago
Did u not just watch this video??? Watch it again. The dummy is shot from the rear but pieces of the dummy skull and head clearly travel in all directions, including backwards!
Mystery solved
agentshep23 2 years ago
JFK had 2 entrance wounds one in the front of his throat and one in the right temple.ALL the ER doctors at Parkland that treated JFK agree on this FACT.There was a bullet hole in the windshield from the front.Anything shown on American TV will only support the WC lie because of "Operation Mockingbird".Also look up The 488th Military Intelligence Unit/Jack Crichton/George Lumpkin/Lt Col George Whitmeyer.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
Wrong.
There were two entrance wounds alright.
One entrance wound to the lower right side of the back of the neck and a second entrance wound to the back of the head.
There was a small wound of exit to the base of the windpipe and there was a large wound of exit to the top front right of the skull.
The shots that hit JFK came from above and behind from the direction of the 6th floor corner window of the Book Depository.
swansandtyphus 2 years ago
Gerald Ford admitted that he moved the back wound up 5 inches.Anyone who chooses to can go watch the ER doctors testimony.The back wound most likely came from the 7.65 Mauser on the 6th floor.The parafin test on Oswald was negative which means he fired NO weapon that day.
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