Mavizen TTX02, an electric superbike for the streets

[drunkenp0t]

is it an automatic ?

[podcast25]

@drunkenp0t I'm pretty sure it's a 1-speed.

[helhond323]

its gay!

[gamewiz0070]

@helhond323 Get used to it ass hole.

[helhond323]

@gamewiz0070 why should I?

[thoffarius]

oO, try some clutch ups, please :D

[paradoxb3]

I know direct drive is easy to do, but why why why dont they put a gearbox on electric bikes??? would it not have the same benefit of increased speed AND range as a gas engine?

[fiddletownjoel]

@paradoxb3 There is no need because of the torque characteristics they can just gear them low. Obviously if a car tried to take off in top gear it would stall, but an electric motor can pull from very low rpm. also because it does not need to idle, no clutch would be required, benefits from lighter weight and simplicity as well. Where petrol motors rpm varies because of air/fuel ratio, fuel delivery, valve lift, etc electric is basically increase current = increase speed.

[skyhacker6]

Where is this fucking awesome sound of a real bike ?!

fuel : VVVvvvvvvvvvvrrrrrrrrRRRRRRR VVVVVVVRRRRRR VVVVRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !!!!

electric: vwiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii­iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii­iiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ! :/

[ninjabob52]

@skyhacker6 Ive only ever owned motorcycles, never a car. I love the sound of their engines. If they ever make an electric that just plain works, it will easily beat a gasoline powered bike any day, as they can give 100% torque at 0rpm. That little humming noise could be the new sound you relate to action, if they can get it to work.

[MartinJWillett]

@skyhacker6 Sound is wasted energy, if your bike is sounding like a 200 watt stereo that's 200 watts which by definition are not being used at the wheels, and that energy is coming from fuel you have bought. Not smart. A totally efficient machine would turn stored energy into movement without generating (not just not producing) any sound or heat.

[oPickful]

25K for a bike?

[skyhacker6]

@oPickful ducati DESPOSEDICI is about 50k ! so ?

[oPickful]

@skyhacker6 Wouldn't buy either one

[M3iscool]

This is an electric bike ditch that fuel tank and put those batteries somewhere else.

[EvendimataE]

why do they have to keep that fuel tank look?

[DiegoALexis2079]

@EvendimataE because the looks of a bike is awesome, you are not only riding over 2 stupid wheels you are also riding over a beautifull horse, makes sence to you?

[hub123power]

rich man toys? maybe. but they are better for the planet and if no one plays them we are pretty fucked and tomorow children will have a fucked up planet because of us

[Sandwigger363]

@losangelestimes Please do a review on the new Zero 2012 line up.

[Oldbmwr100rs]

The only one I saw they had a couple years back looked like a puch moped. The racebike was completely different. I guess it was the "Enertia"but it might have had skinnier wheels. Once it was repaired for the 3rd time, I rode it and within 5 minutes the power meter read 30%, after charging overnight. I guess if You lived where it was completely flat it might be ok. I can think of better use for 12 grand though, lots better. This junk is rich mans toys.

[martyman5000]

I've enjoyed both the reviews I found this morning...great job and I wish I had your job.

[ioctlvoid]

Brushed? Why not brushless?

[ManMeatMusket]

it looks very impractical. Brammo is on a much better track in my opinion.

[Oldbmwr100rs]

@ManMeatMusket We had a brammo at out shop as a demo that they sent customers to test ride. They were trying to sell them through best buy stores. It was a pile of junk, more an electric moped then anything else, and it was broken more than working. To fix it, the guy had to drive down from Oregon, if You paid $12K for one, would You accept that?In nearly 30 years around electric vehicles,I have yet to see a practical one for the general public.

[ManMeatMusket]

@Oldbmwr100rs Which model was it?

[Twolve209]

The Empulse looks way better

[lin545]

Im writing this from my Gentoo Linux box, it sends warm hello to all developers :)

[theantiredneck]

-----> with a brushless motor this is not and issue unless exceed the temperature of the lamination in the stator windings and melt and short out the stator from amp load or over potential of the device! Brushless motors can be wound in a way as to not have cogging torgue from one pole to another, in a brushed motor the electromagnet has to push over this bump using a percentage of it's power as a waste product and it the main component in brushless motors producing more power and or effiency!!!

[theantiredneck]

---->maybe if the motor has cheap bearings and or is not supported properly in it's drive train connection! Brushless motors have all that and more, the magnets are under even more stress and the mechanical interaction of brush and commutator from both friction and plasma wear significantly reduce conductivity as carbonization acts as an insulator on the surface and all micron layers as is permeates and effects molecular chains in the material of the commutator and brush------>

[theantiredneck]

Well saying every couple of battery packs was being smart assed but im sorry to say all brushed motors lose performance every kwh they are used and the higher performance they are the faster they wear out!! There is no need to use anything but a brushless motor as they unequivocally a better choice for many reasons starting with lifespan in high performance applications the only thing you might have to worry about is if your motor gets hot and the magnets degrade from heat exposure and--->

[hub123power]

faux l'électrique est beaucoup plus efficace, l'électricité peut être générée par le soleil, l'eau, la chaleur de la terre etc (le soleil est une source d'énergie inépuisable externe à la terre), le traitement du pétrole pour le transformer en essence est beaucoup plus polluant, puis au niveau de l'utilisation aussi : seulement 20% de l'énergie contenue dans l'essence est utilisée pour faire avancer les véhicules, le reste c'est du bruit, de la chaleur et surtout de la pollution

[deliciousjulien]

électrique = nucléaire = pire que le pétrole !!!!

électrique = lithium,plomb et autre...

donc l'électrique polu beaucoup plus ....

[hub123power]

at least this do not destroy the planet your children gonna live in ^^

[topirok]

how far will it go before you charge the batt?

[RDEMON64]

@topirok lol the batt

[dennymambo]

LMAO no thanks...I think I will make my own. Cheers for the specifications though. Now I have something to work with! :)

[graytgray]

this technology is incredible. Im glad that they are coming up with this stuff. I will sure as heck not buy now, but give it a few years when the bugs are out, sure

[Dorisequador]

@graytgray They had this technology 20 years ago but now we are able to have it.

[Pretz1123]

the frame is from KTM R8C ?

[510gambit]

As long there is petro out there I would never consider to buy one of this

a) For 1/10 of the price you get a quicker scooter!

b) Battery blowing under your cojones can be a nasty shit!

c) My vacuum cleaner has a better sound

d) Where is the fun of puting the bike apart and then building it again when the season is over :P?

[gasdive]

@510gambit a) Could you name that 210 km/h scooter? b) I've seen engines explode under the rider but never seen a battery pack explode c) you must have a scary cool vacuum cleaner as these bikes sound like the bikes from the first version of 'tron. d) you're thinking of petrol bikes that you need to pull apart at the end of every season. These electrics need a brush change every 100 000 km and that's the only "pull apart" task.

[TheAboobis]

its just a scooter

[jessejubilee]

@TheAboobis

Then that is one bad ass "scooter".

[theantiredneck]

Brushed motors? What are you going cut the armature on a lathe every couple of batty packs? Every run gets slower and slower til you do!!

[gasdive]

@theantiredneck Agni brushed motors don't work that way. The only maintainence is brush replacement every 100 000 km.

[rhadiem]

I'll take a Ducati and pocket the 20k. Sounds like a toy, and probably way too quiet to be safe in cellphone addicted SUV-world. Looks cool though.

[lucky51762]

It worries me that the test rider keeps commenting how quiet the bike is.

Will you be more suseptible to being run down by a car that cannot hear you

?

[Jaiv74]

@lucky51762 I think so: Where I live, lots of Taxis are Prius now, and taxi drivers comment how difficult it’s to drive in high populated areas.

Also a friend of mine had an electric scooter (big ones) during a weekend, and he said it was crazy, not because of other cars, but because of the people, they just jumped into the street. It is like riding a giant bicycle…

[gasdive]

@Jaiv74 My Zero DS has a single one of those motors and pedestrians can hear me coming fine. There's no problem with that at all.

[CHIVASPERVERSIUS]

sound = shit

but 75 cents for 130 miles o.o

[TMH23]

It's 65hp. 7.5 kwh battery. Top speed of 130mph (210km/h). Same light weight as a GSXR 600 'wet' at 380lbs (170kg). 130mile (210km) range, which will cost about 75 cents in electricity.

[MASEK360]

meh, sound = shit

[Zeroto90]

Yeah so shut up you loser electric bike kids, and theres nothing super about a battery powering a electric motor

[OriginalMysteryMove]

Cool lady & great technology!

[pfiberoptik]

I would tap that.

[allen423100]

sick sick sick i love it

[ChadSomoza93]

ugly as hell lol

[maoristereo]

ill just stick with my brammo, thank you.

[1Watwilje]

sucks

[oysterlicker]

Brushed motor?!!! Bleeeehh.. if it was brushless nobody could handle it's top speed!. And it would last much longer.

[kbyecruzer]

are gasoline powered bikes already efficient enough?

[JcXtreme72]

@kbyecruzer Well this is electric. You plug it in to charge it for probably 8 hours for 25 mins of ride time so to answer your question gas is alot more efficient. I can ride my bike all day and it takes me less then 5 mins to "recharge"

[kbyecruzer]

@JcXtreme72 it was more of a rhetorical question, but i know what you mean...

[gasdive]

@tansit2344 Range is about 100 miles, it's 30 kg *lighter* than the petrol bike it's based on. You're right that combustion does some things that electric can't, but are those things that it does, something that most people do? Generally not. Most people's trips are much less than 100 miles and most people don't spend much time riding faster than 210 km/h.

[pachris]

It looks sick. A lot of electrics looks like crap. We all know they pull away fast. Whats the range like/

[Avus95]

@pachris

It looks sick bc it's mostly an Rc8.

personally, I'd take the KTM over the Mavizen.

[ap0lmc]

Turnigy CA120-70 Brushless Outrunner This motor was tested at 10,000 watts that is greater than your motor and at $300 each at HobbyKing

[coalandnuclear]

@ap0lmc 10000 watts is only 13.4 hp, hell a ninja 250 has double that

[ap0lmc]

@coalandnuclear yes it is only good for a commuter bike. The motor only weighs 2.5 Kg and is equivalent to a 110 cc engine but it has a lot more lower rpm torque.

Tesla an electric car beating most engine cars off the line.

[ProEvolutionDan]

@ap0lmc

The Mavizen uses two agnis.

[mrurkham]

So.. it's a twist and go with sports fairing ?

[optimad51]

its to slow mate !

[desmodronic916]

Since its electric you could at least put a belt instead of noisy chain

[musicmind9]

It's not a bike, it's a vagina.

[Restayvien]

My only real problem with this, is that one of my favorite things about bikes is the sound. I'm a big Ducati fan, and this things just seems a bit bland. Good to see the technology being used more now though.

[bandguy360]

i got a ticket for having my license plate placed like that

[ArtisticwithaK]

Too bad they can't synthesize real motor sound.

[smeghead666]

@ArtisticwithaK it is a real motor :P just not a petrol one...

itll never sound like a petrol engine, that's something special to internal combustion but just imagine when we start tweaking with the battery, adding different cooling methods, messing about with the drivetrain and so on

There may be a symphony hiding underneath this technology

[Woodee]

@ArtisticwithaK why do they need to? Combustion engines have their sound, electric bikes have their own... why the need to synthesise anything?

[ArtisticwithaK]

@Woodee Because I love the sound of a nice combustion engine growling at me.

[Woodee]

@ArtisticwithaK don't we all... but now it is time for what back to the future promised..... years late but still ! :)

[MimeosTV]

great bike and great spot!!

[Brammofan]

You look good on that bike, Susan. I'm taking points off, however, for your lack of leather pants.

[pinkyracr]

@Brammofan yeah, we need to get her a pair of GoGoGear Kevlar jeans.... (to be launched at EICMA, of course...)

[mutanay77]

that is one thin bike