I am not a racist, but I do believe that when you move to a new place you must become a part of that new place. You do not have to take on the religion or even the clothing, but you must assimilate to the culture itself. If you are moving there it is because there is better than where you come from, so do not try to make it like where you come from... Very simple logic.
Anti-immigrant is not racist... I am a firm believer in adopting the culture of the country that you emigrate to. My ancestors did that when they came to the US, but now Immigrants feel that they do not need to adopt the culture of their new home, they wish to bring their culture into their new land and force it on the current inhabitants. The US was wrong to do that to the native cultures here, and we are excoriated for it regularly, but certain cultures are being allowed to do it even today...
Rascisim is just a modern form of species survival, for thousands of years cultures have been wiping each other out simply for expansion and the continuation of their people and beliefs. CHristians in america, the cathloics across europe during the holy roman empire, the turkish slaughter of armenians while germany watched and even supplied the turks, what about the afican tribes waring over land selling their captured enemys to the portugeese. The germanic tribes under Alric sacking rome.
It's funny how music by a band leads to a pissing match on who has out-learned the other (ref. to the people below). Next thing you'll be playing the oppression Olympics...
@godevil1313 ok just saw your comment believe me I *have* read Nietzsche. Now why don't you try learning greek (+Ancient greek), albanian, french and german and I'm just 15.. Albanian and Greek being my parents' language. when you do that (even now, whereas I'm only 15) then I might be impressed, because I don't fall for your cultures-studies bullshit idiot. I can recognize an open-minded person from what he says, and first of all they wouldn't waste their time talking to "retards" as you say.
@godevil1313 I'm actually 15 as well, and I agree with you about your definition of an open mind. An open mind means actually considering someone's actions and intentions before you denounce them. No, saying the words "Tutsi" or "Hutu" or "world peace" or even "cultural diversity" does not make you open-minded. For me, history has opened my mind. I don't know what may open others' minds, but that has worked for me. And my last sentence is what I mean. I'm not assuming ANYTHING.
@DestroyerOfSense000 thought the comments were locked. Of all those, "world peace" is a state of utopia, (which in itself is cool and impossible) "cultural diveristy" has become a word of hipocrisy these days... And well history and most kind of searches in anything, open's one's mind. Though first things that come in mind are: psychology, music, science (all fields included), religion, history... So yeah, I agree with you.. :)
@godevil1313 I wonder how fast you googled Nietzsche to figure out who I was talking about. And look at you go, insulting people's intelligence. If there was any alphabet I was mastering, when you were "reading Nietzsche," it was more than likely the Old High German alphabet, which I just started. So, you're welcome for the great reading I introduced you to. And really, if you're going to play the "I'm better than you game," then I've more friends than you and am a lot more successful than a >>>
@GotischOberst 1st of all I'm atheist, and I dont rely one my public school for my education. I read books, and believe me I know much more stuff than you knew my age. we re probably saying the same thing... I NEVER denied humans aren't of the animalia kingdom what don't you get? I'm just emphasizing on the difference between the sapiens and other mammals (or other animals etc) "Humans aren't animals" isn't literal FFS! I think I explained as much as possible what I mean.Now WHATS YOUR problem?
@InFlam3sW3Trust last but not least, the dolphin is not second to our intelligence beacause intelligence is proven to be more complicated and divided. its memory, logical, mathematical, emotional, musical, and many other categories. ive heard that about the dolphin but each intelligence can not be compared so easily so that statement is also wrong.
@godevil1313; Human's are certainly animals. I'm sure if you speak to any expert - a taxonomist, as one example - you will find they strongly disagree. Humans are classified as animals. Humans are in the animalia kingdom, chordata phylum, mammalia class, primates order, hominidae family, homo genus, and sapien species.Your example is incorrect, about the fish and serpents. Funny thing, they're both animals as well.
@godevil1313; A comparison that would work with what you said would be claiming humans are not single celled organisms, although you can trace back to the first multicellular organisms evolving from single celled organisms. However, this is not the case, so it isn't exactly a valid comparison. I recall there being an animalia kingdom, plantae kingdom, fungi kingdom, protista kingdom, and a monera kingdom. I do not recall a human kingdom.
@InFlam3sW3Trust i dont think u get what i mean anyways... but the issue is not biological, and i can assure you I know how organisms are categorized, its more philosophical and moral..
@InFlam3sW3Trust study the mutations and evolution theory. its like saying serpents were fish before they became serpents. they did *evolve* into serpents from fish. and as i said, we are not animals. we have a brain of intelligence and basic instincts. those are still characteristics from primates we evolved from. intelligence makes us human. if u wanna be an animal, (i dont wanna judge you since i dont know your clear opinion about racism) be one... i prefer thinking.
@GotischOberst what was this..? a quic distortion of what i said to make it look funny..? yeah great job i hope it makes you feel good cuz u suck.. you would have no idea what I can think and i doubt you could perceive anything more complex than 1+1=2. get back to school it might help u idiot...
@godevil1313 Hahaha. Oh, that's adorable. You're so butthurt because you have everyone pointing and laughing at you. I didn't distort a thing you said; you said humans evolved from animals, but are not animals. Only someone who had to google what 1+1 is could think that that logic is not flawed. And telling me I suck with third grade spelling capabilities doesn't help your argument, nor hold any validation. Just proves me right.
@GotischOberst 1st of all I could spell better than you in my sleep, I just don't have to. 2nd, noone is pointing at me and laughing. 3rd I wouldn't give a shit even if someone did, every time I remember this issue it's because I see the notifications in my home page. I know where humans are categorized as organisms very well, it is you who doesn't get the deeper meaning of humans not being animals. Because animals don't have a brain to process anything, it's all controlled by instincts.
@godevil1313 Oh, so the big mushy thing in their skulls isn't a brain? Well then every book and taxidermist is wrong then, I guess. I love your claims to superiority when you've yet to show how you're superior. And I love how you think I don't get what you mean, when clearly, I must, since I'm sitting here using a computer. That in and of itself should show I'm separate from any other animal. But your words are "humans aren't animals," and that's just stupid.
@GotischOberst and that's your problem? that I didnt categorize a human as a living organism in the animalia kingdom? and when I say brain, a rat can have a brain but I was refering to the mental property of the "mind" and I think my point is obvious but you just want to make it as stupid as possible? The way you act, I rly wouldn't be surprised if you were a dedicated troll.
@GotischOberst If we were animals you would be attacking any idiot crossing your path or looking at you or taking your seat. How's that for a difference between animals and humans? And I'm just trying to make it simplified for you so you can finally get my point so don't go again with your stupid wanna-be-sarcastic jokes.
@godevil1313 Also (hate the character limit on these comments), wannabe sarcastic jokes? I was using sarcasm? All I was doing was showing you how flawed your logic is by telling you the exact information you'd find if you could "think" your way out of that imaginary world where backwards thinking is fact. You don't need to simplify anything for me. You already speak like a third grader, so it's real easy to read you. And just as easy to outthink you.
@GotischOberst You're barely having *any* success in that. You're the one who made the whole issue personal, talking about what I write, so don't go acting mature-like, ok? and just to finish this I won't be bothering to reply again. If you wanted to be superior, next time don't start with insulting other people's intelligence. The way I see it you're agreeing with me but you just keep it up to oppose me beacause of the way I expressed my idea? and finally yea I am younger than you.
@godevil1313 The only reason I don't have success in your eyes is because your logic is so flawed you think yourself impervious to ever being wrong. And that's just funny. It's also funny that you call me a troll and tell me how to act. I'm outthinking everything you say, like most people that were talking to you. And if the point is how stupid and flawed your view is, how is attacking your intelligence not fair play? Curious what makes you think you're younger though.
@GotischOberst oh i said i wouldnt be replying but you rly are getting on my nerves... im 15, and you re not outthinikng me. you say my logic is flawed but you can support it with only an expression mistake i made.I didnt tell u how to act, i was just assuming you could easily be a troll. u distort what i say to a great extent. last but not least, i could also say you re not rly clever because of the way u speak and u dont want to understand maturely what i'm trying to explain in a peaceful way.
@godevil1313 Telling me to not act mature is, in fact, telling me how to act. And since this was already being discussed, adding with nothing more than what others had already said would be a waste of time, but we can backtrack to that, and it can be three to one: Humans are animals.
@InFlam3sW3Trust I know Darwins theory very well and I'm an ardent supporter of it + atheist. human didnt come from an animal. It's absolutely wrong to say human was an animal for the exact same reason that human (sapiens sapiens) has nothing to do with his ancestors (habilis and such) because they are entirely different species. we did evolve from them, and thas why we have some remnants from them. thats all there is to it.we evolved from animals. just like animals evolved from others.
This song explains everything no questions asked. This song explains that the real racists try to blame other people and trick them. secret societies and hell that has the cure to it's intentions of trying to trick the people who have the truth and the write intentions and that the evil tried to label themselves as the truth and tried to mix the truth into a lie and theres that one thing or one person that will speak the greatest truth of all.this song destroys every lie ever told. True Justice.
Erik Thorvaldsson (Old Norse: Eirīkr Þōrvaldsson; 950 – c. 1003 a.d), known as Erik the Red (Old Norse: Eirīkr hinn rauði[1]), is remembered in medieval Icelandic saga sources as having founded the first Nordic settlement in Greenland. The Icelandic tradition indicates that he was born in the Jæren
district of Rogaland, Norway, as the son of Thorvald Asvaldsson, he therefore
also appears, patronymically, as Erik Thorvaldsson (Eiríkr Þorvaldsson).
Erik Thorvaldsson (Old Norse: Eirīkr Þōrvaldsson; 950 – c. 1003 a.d), known as Erik the Red (Old Norse: Eirīkr hinn rauði[1]), is remembered in medieval Icelandic saga sources as having founded the first Nordic settlement in Greenland. The Icelandic tradition indicates that he was born in the Jæren district of Rogaland, Norway, as the son of Thorvald Asvaldsson, he therefore also appears, patronymically, as Erik Thorvaldsson (Eiríkr Þorvaldsson).
@DeadmansWoman I completely agree with you (what an awful shock that must be lol). I love Greek mythology, but it would seem somehow 'disjointed' to celebrate them the way we celebrate Anglo-Saxon or Norse mythology. I couldn't understand another wanting to do so the way we do outside an aesthetic or intellectual appreciation, but I certainly wouldn't want to stop anybody
@DeadmansWoman I'm not attacking you either lol, I just don't see why you consider Odinism racist. Preferring one's own racial gods is like preferring one's parents... just because I like my parents, it doesn't mean I'm insulting yours, and it doesn't mean I'm excluding you to say you should love your parents and not mine. Saying 'these are my gods, perhaps you should reconnect with your own' is not inherently racist
@DeadmansWoman Well are you racist? Odinism is not inherently racist, nor is it inherently racist to note the incongruity of worhshipping foreign gods.
You may have kindreds or anything else, but you cannot definitely stop somebody practicing the religion. You can stop them praciticing it with you, but that's an entirely different thing. Odinism is not the incorporeal property of any kindred or confederation thereof, so parochial exclusion is not the same as a definite and intrinsic barr
@DeadmansWoman So you're an Odinist? That means nothing; it doesn't place you any better to pontificate on the pragmatics of worshipping alien gods. Odinism is not a 'centralised' religion like Catholicism; the Catholics may be able to say who may and who may not be Catholic, but Odinism/Asatru, etc, are 'open source'. I can't understand why anybody else would want to be an Odinist. It's not racism to note the inconsistency
@DeadmansWoman Why? If you visited an Amazonian tribe and they said you have to be a member of their tribe to worship their ancestors, would that also be racist? Why should anybody just trust that you're right? As it happens, nobody has the ability to say what other people can and cannot do, if you're half African, half Asian and want to worship Odin, do what you like, it's no-one else's business what you do, even if it's hard to understand lol
A lot of people missunderstood what i wrote two month agoe and thought i accused Týr for racism. This is what i meant
I really like Týr. In sweden where i'm from we have a lot of different Wiking rockbands and i think it´s a shame that so many of the swedish ones are racist. I never accused the Faroe Islands or Týr for being racists becuse i know that they are against that shit.
This is such complex, deep music. It's a damn rare thing to hear a major seventh chord in metal, and more's the pity. The bassline is the icing on the cake.
from the viewpoint of a viking supporter or even any race that has had british influence or christian influence, they were tortured and foced to change their views. i mean no ofense but t the christian relligion was barbaric
these viking bands arent racist, these rumours started in germany at pagan fest, where they used symbols, which the nazis copied, but tyr stated they hate nazis themselves,
@ownya88 Týr isn't Swedish. They are from the Faroe Islands which are north of England as well as part of the Kingdom of Denmark...
Everyone is racist\bigotous against some group. Period. It's human nature. We all have our opinions, our unique upbringings, and life experiences. There will always be groups of other people who conflict with our specific ideologies, beliefs, or backgrounds. You will never be able to stamp out it. We also have our most fundamental right: The freedom of speech.
@rducky01 i never said that they where racists or from sweden. I said that it's a shame that alsmost al wiking - rockbands are racists. I have absolutely nothing against the Faroe Islands. And i have never acused you for being rasict so chill out.
@ownya88 If you are stating Tyr in this, they are Farose and they aren't racist. Tis just a misconception as people consider groups like them Nazis when in reality the Nazis use Norse Germanic symbols/runes as the Anglo Saxon tribes ended up becoming the Germans and originated there as well.
@enslavedandcondemned I have never said that they where rasicst. Is said that i think it's a shame that almost every wiking-rock band in sweden (my homecountry) are racists. I have never called Týr racists.
@ownya88 I was asking if you meant them lol, but understand your reason due to my wording. However, every country has racist people tis human nature to have hatred towards things. Best thing you can do is ignore their poisoned minds and be on your way. Tis what I do as their is no point in debating with them as it almost always ends with violence.
I said that it's a shame that almost all wiking rock bands from sweden are racists. That does not make me a racist. I have neveer accused Týr or the Faroe Islands for any rasicm.
@MacHamish the japanese were labeled racist, but yea... it's usually the whites because we sport white pride (damn white trash ruining our good name). aha
@MacHamish its not just the whites friend, many races do it not just whites.. the blacks did it from the 60's-90's... saying one is "proud" is different than saying one is "supreme", theres nothing wrong with being proud, but saying one race is supreme IS racist... we all have pride.. just dont let it lead to arrogance
@Verseification agreed with all you said. Just don't use the word race, races etc. there is only one race which is the Human race. Black, whites, etc are Ethnies.
@MacHamish So here and now I announce: I'm proud of who I am. I'm pagan. I'm white. I'm slavic. I'm 100% anti-racist. Because I CAN be proud of being white and be anti-racist at the same time.
@MacHamish That irritates me to no end. Even saying the words white and pride within a few words of each other makes someone look like a klansmen or a Nazi. We all have beautiful traditions and we are not all the same. There is no racist and "reverse-racist", as I have heard it called. Racism is not just what makes sensitive minorities mad! Racism is more of a weapon than an actual issue in the United States at least, we just need to drop it. If we don't stop, it will continue on for eternity.
@DestroyerOfSense000cke just checked this out I don't know how you mean it, but there is racism and anti-racism, and well the first is an issue of a person with *real* issues with himself, the latter is hypocritic in my opinion. *Actual* anti-racism is found only in babies who haven't been taught the idea of racism and difference between people, because they are pure of fears instilled by the society.
@DestroyerOfSense000 In order to drop racism, I think we would have to delete all history and start from zero, which is unfortunately impossible... (not that it would make sense since we still would need absolute neutrality in every aspect of our world between ethnicities.) That's just my idea of how it would work.
@godevil1313 if we don't keep the evidence of our past transgressions, we only invite future generations to repeat the same misdeeds. We must learn to never do those things again. Someday racism will be so far in our past that people will think it is a myth or fairy tale. LOL
@BryanBournewold I have never compared asatru with racism. But in sweden (where i'm coming from) are like 98% of all wiking rock bands racist or atleast against immigrants. I guess i wrote in the wrong way but what i meant is that i wish that more of the swedish wiking rock bands where more like the farose band Týr.
@ownya88 Och Týr är öppet anti-rasister, precis som Amon Amarth, och det är jag hjärtligt stolt över och jag har även tackat dem så personligt det går för stunden(via Facebook). Jag är asatroende och jag är ren anarkist och kommunist. Vikingarock är ju egentligen en ren nationalistiskt/patriotisk musik och är ju inte så byggd på asatro över huvudtaget. Lyssnar på Viking Metal, där texterna bara handlar om Asatro och dylikt. Kärlek till mina bröder i Týr!
@LonesomePaleRider As a lone wolf Gothi, it is not hatred you should show them....it is pitty for their minds being poisoned by the cult started by David the creator of the pseudo puppet Jesus and whom wrote the original bible.....as a Norse Germanic Pagan/Odinist we sure do have inner hatreds towards them for what they have done but let the nature Odin created take them and let them suffer slowly.......tis then they will open their eyes and get a dose of reality there is nothing you can do.
the songs about the christian invasion of the north and Where Eric the Reds true loyalties lay as the christians spread their dogma farther and farther into pagan scandinavia while he was in exile in iceland with some of the last free pagans who tried to withstand the christian attack as they discovered more viking lands to atempt to convert and " cure" of there heathan culture as they twisted it.
@kravenkoa As well as being the first one to introduce Jazz music in North America, blent with pagan metal. Such as it can appreciated in this song. LOL
this song has got a great chorus, it's upsetting that they're so offset by lots of filler material in between. This song should have had a faster intro and the fat definitely should've been cut from the middle.
Extremely well trained musicians. To hear complex music theory mixed into viking metal - which I am aware does exist in the form of tempo and chord structure meeting complex scalular patterns (whew....) however - done with such finesse here.
Well, I think the lyrics are about Christian missionaries who came to Scandinavia around 1000 AD and spread the faith, and to "save" the Vikings from their hedonistic ways. The whole "as there are faithless you can make believe need help".
@powerslave02 Eric the Red was exiled from Iceland for killing a man, not for his heathen faith. His son Leif became a Christian. Maybe this is Eric's imaginary answer to Leif's attempt to make him a Christian.
@powerslave02 if u ask me i think the whole thing was stupid, kings just wanted to expand and be known as all divine ruling kings, and had there little armies and missonaries go expand and say they were right and vikings/norse/pagans wrong. jsut so they could have more power, but thts my opinion
IMO the Christians tamed us in scandinavia, took our culture away. What we got of culture now is just a shadow of what we once had in the viking ages.
@powerslave02 They are considered by many even Odinists to have been false Christians, I doubt do to Historical evidence that is actually true myself......as although I honor jesus and all the other gods and goddesses that exist see all Christians misguided by each other. And simply stating what man says to man, then saying Jesus said it when in fact it was just them.
most underated band ever
ThePinkCamal 2 weeks ago
I am not a racist, but I do believe that when you move to a new place you must become a part of that new place. You do not have to take on the religion or even the clothing, but you must assimilate to the culture itself. If you are moving there it is because there is better than where you come from, so do not try to make it like where you come from... Very simple logic.
TheHornedOne81 1 month ago
Anti-immigrant is not racist... I am a firm believer in adopting the culture of the country that you emigrate to. My ancestors did that when they came to the US, but now Immigrants feel that they do not need to adopt the culture of their new home, they wish to bring their culture into their new land and force it on the current inhabitants. The US was wrong to do that to the native cultures here, and we are excoriated for it regularly, but certain cultures are being allowed to do it even today...
TheHornedOne81 1 month ago
title does not represent the lyrics. mostly a great song about christian oppression. 1000 YEARS OF OPPRESSION!!!
blackspiraldancer6 1 month ago
Someone, Where the fuck can i get some guitar tab to this!?
TheLoonFaeGertly 1 month ago
Is it weird that all i can think of is The Lost Vikings
YoCodeMaN 1 month ago
I fucking love this song. I always get lost in it.
MistressKim 1 month ago
Rascisim is just a modern form of species survival, for thousands of years cultures have been wiping each other out simply for expansion and the continuation of their people and beliefs. CHristians in america, the cathloics across europe during the holy roman empire, the turkish slaughter of armenians while germany watched and even supplied the turks, what about the afican tribes waring over land selling their captured enemys to the portugeese. The germanic tribes under Alric sacking rome.
ToxGhost 2 months ago
7 people wanted the likebar to resemble Eric.
luclfersangel616 2 months ago
It's funny how music by a band leads to a pissing match on who has out-learned the other (ref. to the people below). Next thing you'll be playing the oppression Olympics...
AbbyTritonus 3 months ago
This one really reminds me of the calmer tracks of Opeth.
MC0Mijado 3 months ago
my name is Erik :D
RezoLP 3 months ago
@godevil1313 ok just saw your comment believe me I *have* read Nietzsche. Now why don't you try learning greek (+Ancient greek), albanian, french and german and I'm just 15.. Albanian and Greek being my parents' language. when you do that (even now, whereas I'm only 15) then I might be impressed, because I don't fall for your cultures-studies bullshit idiot. I can recognize an open-minded person from what he says, and first of all they wouldn't waste their time talking to "retards" as you say.
godevil1313 9 months ago
@godevil1313 I'm actually 15 as well, and I agree with you about your definition of an open mind. An open mind means actually considering someone's actions and intentions before you denounce them. No, saying the words "Tutsi" or "Hutu" or "world peace" or even "cultural diversity" does not make you open-minded. For me, history has opened my mind. I don't know what may open others' minds, but that has worked for me. And my last sentence is what I mean. I'm not assuming ANYTHING.
DestroyerOfSense000 2 months ago
@DestroyerOfSense000 thought the comments were locked. Of all those, "world peace" is a state of utopia, (which in itself is cool and impossible) "cultural diveristy" has become a word of hipocrisy these days... And well history and most kind of searches in anything, open's one's mind. Though first things that come in mind are: psychology, music, science (all fields included), religion, history... So yeah, I agree with you.. :)
godevil1313 2 months ago
@godevil1313 I wonder how fast you googled Nietzsche to figure out who I was talking about. And look at you go, insulting people's intelligence. If there was any alphabet I was mastering, when you were "reading Nietzsche," it was more than likely the Old High German alphabet, which I just started. So, you're welcome for the great reading I introduced you to. And really, if you're going to play the "I'm better than you game," then I've more friends than you and am a lot more successful than a >>>
GotischOberst 9 months ago
@GotischOberst 1st of all I'm atheist, and I dont rely one my public school for my education. I read books, and believe me I know much more stuff than you knew my age. we re probably saying the same thing... I NEVER denied humans aren't of the animalia kingdom what don't you get? I'm just emphasizing on the difference between the sapiens and other mammals (or other animals etc) "Humans aren't animals" isn't literal FFS! I think I explained as much as possible what I mean.Now WHATS YOUR problem?
godevil1313 9 months ago
@InFlam3sW3Trust last but not least, the dolphin is not second to our intelligence beacause intelligence is proven to be more complicated and divided. its memory, logical, mathematical, emotional, musical, and many other categories. ive heard that about the dolphin but each intelligence can not be compared so easily so that statement is also wrong.
godevil1313 10 months ago
@godevil1313; Human's are certainly animals. I'm sure if you speak to any expert - a taxonomist, as one example - you will find they strongly disagree. Humans are classified as animals. Humans are in the animalia kingdom, chordata phylum, mammalia class, primates order, hominidae family, homo genus, and sapien species.Your example is incorrect, about the fish and serpents. Funny thing, they're both animals as well.
InFlam3sW3Trust 9 months ago
@godevil1313; A comparison that would work with what you said would be claiming humans are not single celled organisms, although you can trace back to the first multicellular organisms evolving from single celled organisms. However, this is not the case, so it isn't exactly a valid comparison. I recall there being an animalia kingdom, plantae kingdom, fungi kingdom, protista kingdom, and a monera kingdom. I do not recall a human kingdom.
InFlam3sW3Trust 9 months ago
@InFlam3sW3Trust i dont think u get what i mean anyways... but the issue is not biological, and i can assure you I know how organisms are categorized, its more philosophical and moral..
godevil1313 9 months ago
@InFlam3sW3Trust study the mutations and evolution theory. its like saying serpents were fish before they became serpents. they did *evolve* into serpents from fish. and as i said, we are not animals. we have a brain of intelligence and basic instincts. those are still characteristics from primates we evolved from. intelligence makes us human. if u wanna be an animal, (i dont wanna judge you since i dont know your clear opinion about racism) be one... i prefer thinking.
godevil1313 10 months ago
@godevil1313 So you think humans evolved from primates, which are animals, but are not animals themselves.
And you think you have intelligence. Lol.
GotischOberst 9 months ago
@GotischOberst what was this..? a quic distortion of what i said to make it look funny..? yeah great job i hope it makes you feel good cuz u suck.. you would have no idea what I can think and i doubt you could perceive anything more complex than 1+1=2. get back to school it might help u idiot...
godevil1313 9 months ago
@godevil1313 Hahaha. Oh, that's adorable. You're so butthurt because you have everyone pointing and laughing at you. I didn't distort a thing you said; you said humans evolved from animals, but are not animals. Only someone who had to google what 1+1 is could think that that logic is not flawed. And telling me I suck with third grade spelling capabilities doesn't help your argument, nor hold any validation. Just proves me right.
GotischOberst 9 months ago
@GotischOberst 1st of all I could spell better than you in my sleep, I just don't have to. 2nd, noone is pointing at me and laughing. 3rd I wouldn't give a shit even if someone did, every time I remember this issue it's because I see the notifications in my home page. I know where humans are categorized as organisms very well, it is you who doesn't get the deeper meaning of humans not being animals. Because animals don't have a brain to process anything, it's all controlled by instincts.
godevil1313 9 months ago
@godevil1313 Oh, so the big mushy thing in their skulls isn't a brain? Well then every book and taxidermist is wrong then, I guess. I love your claims to superiority when you've yet to show how you're superior. And I love how you think I don't get what you mean, when clearly, I must, since I'm sitting here using a computer. That in and of itself should show I'm separate from any other animal. But your words are "humans aren't animals," and that's just stupid.
GotischOberst 9 months ago
@GotischOberst and that's your problem? that I didnt categorize a human as a living organism in the animalia kingdom? and when I say brain, a rat can have a brain but I was refering to the mental property of the "mind" and I think my point is obvious but you just want to make it as stupid as possible? The way you act, I rly wouldn't be surprised if you were a dedicated troll.
godevil1313 9 months ago
@GotischOberst If we were animals you would be attacking any idiot crossing your path or looking at you or taking your seat. How's that for a difference between animals and humans? And I'm just trying to make it simplified for you so you can finally get my point so don't go again with your stupid wanna-be-sarcastic jokes.
godevil1313 9 months ago
@godevil1313 Also (hate the character limit on these comments), wannabe sarcastic jokes? I was using sarcasm? All I was doing was showing you how flawed your logic is by telling you the exact information you'd find if you could "think" your way out of that imaginary world where backwards thinking is fact. You don't need to simplify anything for me. You already speak like a third grader, so it's real easy to read you. And just as easy to outthink you.
GotischOberst 9 months ago
@GotischOberst You're barely having *any* success in that. You're the one who made the whole issue personal, talking about what I write, so don't go acting mature-like, ok? and just to finish this I won't be bothering to reply again. If you wanted to be superior, next time don't start with insulting other people's intelligence. The way I see it you're agreeing with me but you just keep it up to oppose me beacause of the way I expressed my idea? and finally yea I am younger than you.
godevil1313 9 months ago
@godevil1313 The only reason I don't have success in your eyes is because your logic is so flawed you think yourself impervious to ever being wrong. And that's just funny. It's also funny that you call me a troll and tell me how to act. I'm outthinking everything you say, like most people that were talking to you. And if the point is how stupid and flawed your view is, how is attacking your intelligence not fair play? Curious what makes you think you're younger though.
GotischOberst 9 months ago
@GotischOberst oh i said i wouldnt be replying but you rly are getting on my nerves... im 15, and you re not outthinikng me. you say my logic is flawed but you can support it with only an expression mistake i made.I didnt tell u how to act, i was just assuming you could easily be a troll. u distort what i say to a great extent. last but not least, i could also say you re not rly clever because of the way u speak and u dont want to understand maturely what i'm trying to explain in a peaceful way.
godevil1313 9 months ago
@godevil1313 Telling me to not act mature is, in fact, telling me how to act. And since this was already being discussed, adding with nothing more than what others had already said would be a waste of time, but we can backtrack to that, and it can be three to one: Humans are animals.
GotischOberst 9 months ago
@godevil1313; Whoever told you humans were not animals should be slapped furiously. Just saying.
InFlam3sW3Trust 10 months ago
@InFlam3sW3Trust I know Darwins theory very well and I'm an ardent supporter of it + atheist. human didnt come from an animal. It's absolutely wrong to say human was an animal for the exact same reason that human (sapiens sapiens) has nothing to do with his ancestors (habilis and such) because they are entirely different species. we did evolve from them, and thas why we have some remnants from them. thats all there is to it.we evolved from animals. just like animals evolved from others.
godevil1313 10 months ago
This song explains everything no questions asked. This song explains that the real racists try to blame other people and trick them. secret societies and hell that has the cure to it's intentions of trying to trick the people who have the truth and the write intentions and that the evil tried to label themselves as the truth and tried to mix the truth into a lie and theres that one thing or one person that will speak the greatest truth of all.this song destroys every lie ever told. True Justice.
skatersteve20 10 months ago
i think the song is very good, then i say eric den roten XD
XYZdanielOHHHJAAAAA 10 months ago
whats even cooler is that odin doesn't push people into being converted or want your money
blackmetalbozeman666 10 months ago
its not Eric-.- its Eirik....
InvadersDie 11 months ago
Just Google Eric the Red
Icelandicviking68 11 months ago
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Erik Thorvaldsson (Old Norse: Eirīkr Þōrvaldsson; 950 – c. 1003 a.d), known as Erik the Red (Old Norse: Eirīkr hinn rauði[1]), is remembered in medieval Icelandic saga sources as having founded the first Nordic settlement in Greenland. The Icelandic tradition indicates that he was born in the Jæren
district of Rogaland, Norway, as the son of Thorvald Asvaldsson, he therefore
also appears, patronymically, as Erik Thorvaldsson (Eiríkr Þorvaldsson).
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Icelandicviking68 11 months ago
Erik Thorvaldsson (Old Norse: Eirīkr Þōrvaldsson; 950 – c. 1003 a.d), known as Erik the Red (Old Norse: Eirīkr hinn rauði[1]), is remembered in medieval Icelandic saga sources as having founded the first Nordic settlement in Greenland. The Icelandic tradition indicates that he was born in the Jæren district of Rogaland, Norway, as the son of Thorvald Asvaldsson, he therefore also appears, patronymically, as Erik Thorvaldsson (Eiríkr Þorvaldsson).
Icelandicviking68 11 months ago 4
@DeadmansWoman I completely agree with you (what an awful shock that must be lol). I love Greek mythology, but it would seem somehow 'disjointed' to celebrate them the way we celebrate Anglo-Saxon or Norse mythology. I couldn't understand another wanting to do so the way we do outside an aesthetic or intellectual appreciation, but I certainly wouldn't want to stop anybody
LoyalRoyalist 1 year ago
@LMTR14
'LMTR14' The lyrics make sense if you aren't a retard.
johndoe711 1 year ago
@DeadmansWoman it's hard to show courtesy in 500 characters lol. I certainly meant no offence, I just get a little... enthusiastic lol
LoyalRoyalist 1 year ago
@DeadmansWoman I'm not attacking you either lol, I just don't see why you consider Odinism racist. Preferring one's own racial gods is like preferring one's parents... just because I like my parents, it doesn't mean I'm insulting yours, and it doesn't mean I'm excluding you to say you should love your parents and not mine. Saying 'these are my gods, perhaps you should reconnect with your own' is not inherently racist
LoyalRoyalist 1 year ago
@DeadmansWoman Well are you racist? Odinism is not inherently racist, nor is it inherently racist to note the incongruity of worhshipping foreign gods.
You may have kindreds or anything else, but you cannot definitely stop somebody practicing the religion. You can stop them praciticing it with you, but that's an entirely different thing. Odinism is not the incorporeal property of any kindred or confederation thereof, so parochial exclusion is not the same as a definite and intrinsic barr
LoyalRoyalist 1 year ago
@DeadmansWoman So you're an Odinist? That means nothing; it doesn't place you any better to pontificate on the pragmatics of worshipping alien gods. Odinism is not a 'centralised' religion like Catholicism; the Catholics may be able to say who may and who may not be Catholic, but Odinism/Asatru, etc, are 'open source'. I can't understand why anybody else would want to be an Odinist. It's not racism to note the inconsistency
LoyalRoyalist 1 year ago
@DeadmansWoman Why? If you visited an Amazonian tribe and they said you have to be a member of their tribe to worship their ancestors, would that also be racist? Why should anybody just trust that you're right? As it happens, nobody has the ability to say what other people can and cannot do, if you're half African, half Asian and want to worship Odin, do what you like, it's no-one else's business what you do, even if it's hard to understand lol
LoyalRoyalist 1 year ago
like most of the songs on this album I have no clue what's it about
lyrics aren't one of Tyr's high points...
LMTR14 1 year ago
A lot of people missunderstood what i wrote two month agoe and thought i accused Týr for racism. This is what i meant
I really like Týr. In sweden where i'm from we have a lot of different Wiking rockbands and i think it´s a shame that so many of the swedish ones are racist. I never accused the Faroe Islands or Týr for being racists becuse i know that they are against that shit.
ownya88 1 year ago 2
This is such complex, deep music. It's a damn rare thing to hear a major seventh chord in metal, and more's the pity. The bassline is the icing on the cake.
NBreidenbaugh 1 year ago
Does anyone like both Black Metal and Viking Metal? jst asking.
brasileirorusso 1 year ago
@brasileirorusso I do :)
Corben667 1 year ago
@brasileirorusso Yes. I like Black Metal, Viking Metal, Folk Metal, Death Metal, Melodic Death Metal, Doom Metal... I like Metal. ; )
Joshimafia 1 year ago
These guys have the weirdest sound i love it!
iizlandon 1 year ago
@iizlandon My fav is the intro to the song god of war, it reminds me of the old 8-bit music played on nintendos lol
enslavedandcondemned 1 year ago
@enslavedandcondemned Another awesome part is the end of "The Rune" (main riff+tapping+voice). But God of War is badass too!
HerbredMadness 1 year ago
@HerbredMadness I agree, my fav tapper though is Chris Broderick but the guy in this is really good as well.
enslavedandcondemned 1 year ago
eric was born in my district/close by? sweet
jenn91 1 year ago
from the viewpoint of a viking supporter or even any race that has had british influence or christian influence, they were tortured and foced to change their views. i mean no ofense but t the christian relligion was barbaric
daeasel1996 1 year ago
these viking bands arent racist, these rumours started in germany at pagan fest, where they used symbols, which the nazis copied, but tyr stated they hate nazis themselves,
TheEmpireofEagles 1 year ago
Leif Erickson, the king, the original, and the father of the vikings; warriors of the brave, feared no man, nor enemy: Proud to be Norwegian.
android16B 1 year ago
@android16B Han var islandsk, ikke norsk. Foreldrene hans komma fra Noreg men Leif blei født i Island.
Einheri1989 1 year ago
@Einheri1989 eg er ret sikker på at Leif pratete på norsk alikevel :P
berserkur19 1 year ago
@berserkur19 Ja, dei gamle islandske og gamle norske språka var både norrøne.
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ownya88 1 year ago
@ownya88 Yes, unfortunately. But one can enjoy their music without embracing their values. :)
powerslave02 1 year ago 11
@powerslave02 Tyr is not racist. Odinism has nothing to do with Nazi's or Fascism.
KnifeNut88 11 months ago 2
@powerslave02 thats the truth!!
pendragonkid 10 months ago
@ownya88 Týr isn't Swedish. They are from the Faroe Islands which are north of England as well as part of the Kingdom of Denmark...
Everyone is racist\bigotous against some group. Period. It's human nature. We all have our opinions, our unique upbringings, and life experiences. There will always be groups of other people who conflict with our specific ideologies, beliefs, or backgrounds. You will never be able to stamp out it. We also have our most fundamental right: The freedom of speech.
rducky01 1 year ago
@rducky01 i never said that they where racists or from sweden. I said that it's a shame that alsmost al wiking - rockbands are racists. I have absolutely nothing against the Faroe Islands. And i have never acused you for being rasict so chill out.
ownya88 1 year ago
@ownya88 If you are stating Tyr in this, they are Farose and they aren't racist. Tis just a misconception as people consider groups like them Nazis when in reality the Nazis use Norse Germanic symbols/runes as the Anglo Saxon tribes ended up becoming the Germans and originated there as well.
enslavedandcondemned 1 year ago
@enslavedandcondemned I have never said that they where rasicst. Is said that i think it's a shame that almost every wiking-rock band in sweden (my homecountry) are racists. I have never called Týr racists.
ownya88 1 year ago
@ownya88 I was asking if you meant them lol, but understand your reason due to my wording. However, every country has racist people tis human nature to have hatred towards things. Best thing you can do is ignore their poisoned minds and be on your way. Tis what I do as their is no point in debating with them as it almost always ends with violence.
enslavedandcondemned 1 year ago
@ownya88 tyr is not racist at all
spirit0614 1 year ago
@spirit0614 Thats true.
ownya88 1 year ago
@ownya88 i think u are a racist, too... correct me pls if im wrong
xTime2Killx 1 year ago
@xTime2Killx Racist to?
I said that it's a shame that almost all wiking rock bands from sweden are racists. That does not make me a racist. I have neveer accused Týr or the Faroe Islands for any rasicm.
ownya88 1 year ago
@ownya88 i just asced because of the 88 behind your name...
xTime2Killx 1 year ago
@xTime2Killx oh, thats becuse i'm born 1988 :)
ownya88 1 year ago
@ownya88 lol... sorry
xTime2Killx 1 year ago
@ownya88 I only know of a few viking metal bands from Sweden, and they're not Nazis of racist. Could you name a few please?
trogdortheninja 10 months ago
@ownya88 at least one of the best viking metal bands was from sweden. HAIL TO BATHORY AND TÝR!
brasileirorusso 1 year ago
@ownya88 Sad how only white people are labeled racist...
And having pride in ones ancestors and culture somehow makes one a racist.
What a sad joke.
MacHamish 1 year ago 34
@MacHamish the japanese were labeled racist, but yea... it's usually the whites because we sport white pride (damn white trash ruining our good name). aha
MacMan282 11 months ago
@MacHamish thats the truth!!
pendragonkid 10 months ago
@MacHamish its not just the whites friend, many races do it not just whites.. the blacks did it from the 60's-90's... saying one is "proud" is different than saying one is "supreme", theres nothing wrong with being proud, but saying one race is supreme IS racist... we all have pride.. just dont let it lead to arrogance
Verseification 10 months ago
@Verseification agreed with all you said. Just don't use the word race, races etc. there is only one race which is the Human race. Black, whites, etc are Ethnies.
RicardoGadelha 10 months ago
@RicardoGadelha
Ethnicities, although I know what you mean. ;)
ToozeTheBard 1 month ago
@ToozeTheBard hehe, sorry. English isn't my mother tongue xD
RicardoGadelha 1 month ago
@RicardoGadelha
Overall, your post was pretty good if English isn't your mother tongue. :P
ToozeTheBard 1 month ago
@MacHamish I don't think you could say it any better dude.
skatersteve20 10 months ago
@MacHamish
Well maybe one mistaken you for acting as if you're race is supreme, that could lead to that assumption.
lildread1 10 months ago
@MacHamish So here and now I announce: I'm proud of who I am. I'm pagan. I'm white. I'm slavic. I'm 100% anti-racist. Because I CAN be proud of being white and be anti-racist at the same time.
kozagong 9 months ago
@MacHamish That irritates me to no end. Even saying the words white and pride within a few words of each other makes someone look like a klansmen or a Nazi. We all have beautiful traditions and we are not all the same. There is no racist and "reverse-racist", as I have heard it called. Racism is not just what makes sensitive minorities mad! Racism is more of a weapon than an actual issue in the United States at least, we just need to drop it. If we don't stop, it will continue on for eternity.
DestroyerOfSense000 2 months ago
@DestroyerOfSense000cke just checked this out I don't know how you mean it, but there is racism and anti-racism, and well the first is an issue of a person with *real* issues with himself, the latter is hypocritic in my opinion. *Actual* anti-racism is found only in babies who haven't been taught the idea of racism and difference between people, because they are pure of fears instilled by the society.
godevil1313 2 months ago
@DestroyerOfSense000 In order to drop racism, I think we would have to delete all history and start from zero, which is unfortunately impossible... (not that it would make sense since we still would need absolute neutrality in every aspect of our world between ethnicities.) That's just my idea of how it would work.
godevil1313 2 months ago
@godevil1313 if we don't keep the evidence of our past transgressions, we only invite future generations to repeat the same misdeeds. We must learn to never do those things again. Someday racism will be so far in our past that people will think it is a myth or fairy tale. LOL
Seeknhawk 1 month ago
@Seeknhawk I really think it's impossible... :/ who knows..
godevil1313 1 month ago
@MacHamish yeah, it's also too stupid to be called a joke.
FixxxeR208 2 months ago
@ownya88 try listen to "amon amarth" it's deathmetal but they are swedish and are not rasists ;)
really good band i think
Alacria93 1 year ago
@ownya88
Týr is not swedish...
and comparing asatru with rasism is ignorant... sorry but it just is...
BryanBournewold 1 year ago
@BryanBournewold I have never compared asatru with racism. But in sweden (where i'm coming from) are like 98% of all wiking rock bands racist or atleast against immigrants. I guess i wrote in the wrong way but what i meant is that i wish that more of the swedish wiking rock bands where more like the farose band Týr.
ownya88 1 year ago 3
@ownya88 Och Týr är öppet anti-rasister, precis som Amon Amarth, och det är jag hjärtligt stolt över och jag har även tackat dem så personligt det går för stunden(via Facebook). Jag är asatroende och jag är ren anarkist och kommunist. Vikingarock är ju egentligen en ren nationalistiskt/patriotisk musik och är ju inte så byggd på asatro över huvudtaget. Lyssnar på Viking Metal, där texterna bara handlar om Asatro och dylikt. Kärlek till mina bröder i Týr!
Orklord90 3 weeks ago
@ownya88 Tyska Varg är också Anti-Rasister, om du inte visste om det?
Orklord90 3 weeks ago
@ownya88
Týr is not swedish, and you are generalizing on a wrong basis...
BryanBournewold 1 year ago
@BryanBournewold I have never said that Tyr is racist.
ownya88 1 year ago
lief ericsons day is tomorrow!!!!!
j0ey96 1 year ago
I hate Christianity for what it's done to many cultures.
LonesomePaleRider 1 year ago
@LonesomePaleRider Whoa there buddy. Lets not start any retarded debates on a Tyr song...
Just listen to the music and stfu :D
WafflezDay 1 year ago
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@WafflezDay I'm not. I'm just expressing my sorrow.
LonesomePaleRider 1 year ago
@LonesomePaleRider I hate complete morons who generalize entire religions.
O WAIT. :D
antagonist42 1 year ago
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@antagonist42 Do you even know what the definition of a moron is?
LonesomePaleRider 1 year ago
@LonesomePaleRider As a lone wolf Gothi, it is not hatred you should show them....it is pitty for their minds being poisoned by the cult started by David the creator of the pseudo puppet Jesus and whom wrote the original bible.....as a Norse Germanic Pagan/Odinist we sure do have inner hatreds towards them for what they have done but let the nature Odin created take them and let them suffer slowly.......tis then they will open their eyes and get a dose of reality there is nothing you can do.
UlvKriger 1 year ago
@LonesomePaleRider Me being the gothi which is a pagan messenger/warrior oh and yeah I spelled pity wrong sorry busy day x.x
UlvKriger 1 year ago
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Coloradoviking88 1 year ago
the songs about the christian invasion of the north and Where Eric the Reds true loyalties lay as the christians spread their dogma farther and farther into pagan scandinavia while he was in exile in iceland with some of the last free pagans who tried to withstand the christian attack as they discovered more viking lands to atempt to convert and " cure" of there heathan culture as they twisted it.
fimmblefrost 1 year ago
Very good lyrics, speaking very true of christianity and almost all the largest religions in the world.
Excellent music.
Demandred02 1 year ago
Simply put, the song is beautifully written.
FinlandsThunder 1 year ago 2
i hate them for what they did to my famly they just out numberd and swormed like bees to honey thats why im a norse pagan
robwaaf 1 year ago
Love the song and I can imagine this conversation probablly happened at some point. Wasn't Eric the Red the last pagan king of Greenland?
theromanian19 1 year ago
@theromanian19 He was the first, and last, heathen *earl* of Greenland.
Oswulf1 1 year ago
awesome el weson ta bien chidalira o que?????????????
BELCEBUCES 1 year ago
awesome mixture
Setri123 1 year ago
well if i remeber good eric the red was the one who first discovered America,before Columb
ratzaispirescu 1 year ago
@ratzaispirescu Eric's son Leif Ericson was the first to discover North America.
kravenkoa 1 year ago 5
@kravenkoa wasn`t it him and his son?
ratzaispirescu 1 year ago
@kravenkoa As well as being the first one to introduce Jazz music in North America, blent with pagan metal. Such as it can appreciated in this song. LOL
Hlafdije 1 year ago
@ratzaispirescu But eric didn´t make account of this, unlike Columbus.
Hlafdije 1 year ago
this song has got a great chorus, it's upsetting that they're so offset by lots of filler material in between. This song should have had a faster intro and the fat definitely should've been cut from the middle.
metalgrinch 1 year ago
this song is so fuckin magic, fuckin brillant voice,
Cirtnes 2 years ago
NIIICEEE!!!
KuliJens 2 years ago
Im Christian, and this song makes me sad
I'm appalled at what the Church has done to many countries
You're not supposed to force Christianity, it's supposed to be found and then embraced if the individual so desires
I still believe in God and Jesus, but my heart aches for the Old Norse, my ancestors
I don't know what to say..
Valcarion 2 years ago 5
@Valcarion You remind of me, lol.
Hlafdije 1 year ago
brilliant! Hail the Vikings!
TheNorsePagan 2 years ago
Erik Raude ruler! Godt jobba!
kirstenellin 2 years ago
fucking epic band <3
hope i get to see them live again someday :D
666nadroj 2 years ago 5
Good song, but it's too long!!!! 4 stars
clarambault 2 years ago
it's pretty good.
Arnkellj 2 years ago
Extremely well trained musicians. To hear complex music theory mixed into viking metal - which I am aware does exist in the form of tempo and chord structure meeting complex scalular patterns (whew....) however - done with such finesse here.
I hear some John Scofield I swear hehe :)
Chad01234 2 years ago 38
yep, 'valkyrijan' too
dudu1125 2 years ago
Jazz Fusion, Progressive, Doom, Power, Faeroese Folk.... Yep, it's pretty much the best mix ever.
Zeatharkivus 2 years ago 2
awesome
TheNorseman0 2 years ago
Rarely do you find an album that holds so much content in its songs. Eric the Red is a flawless album IMO and one of my favorites.
impyshmimpy 2 years ago 11
Makes me want to take an axe to saint olaf
cotymarine 2 years ago 5
Superbe
OPFERODAL88 2 years ago
BEST VIKING METAL SOLO EVER!
GeminoSmothers 2 years ago 3
tyr are the A++++
boo12seymour 2 years ago 5
Amazing song. Love it.
Zcthuausoth 2 years ago 3
I think it talks of the ÆSIR, following the prose edda, which talks of the gods journey north, ending with Eric the red, and his saga...
xXxguitarman93 2 years ago 4
the lyrics say everithing about christianity...)
MaReekaka 2 years ago
Trying to understand the lyrics...
Is it about muslims from the "sand dunes" coming to the north with their Jihad? Haha. Just how I understood it.
phlogios 2 years ago
Well, I think the lyrics are about Christian missionaries who came to Scandinavia around 1000 AD and spread the faith, and to "save" the Vikings from their hedonistic ways. The whole "as there are faithless you can make believe need help".
powerslave02 2 years ago 8
Yeah, makes more sense :P
If I was a viking back in the day I would sing the same thing.
phlogios 2 years ago 3
I think this is right on target. This is about the wretched conversion.
uberlogger 2 years ago 5
@powerslave02 Eric the Red was exiled from Iceland for killing a man, not for his heathen faith. His son Leif became a Christian. Maybe this is Eric's imaginary answer to Leif's attempt to make him a Christian.
Oswulf1 1 year ago
@powerslave02 if u ask me i think the whole thing was stupid, kings just wanted to expand and be known as all divine ruling kings, and had there little armies and missonaries go expand and say they were right and vikings/norse/pagans wrong. jsut so they could have more power, but thts my opinion
Foundat1on95 1 year ago
@powerslave02 Cool story Bro..
killerghost31 1 year ago
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@powerslave02 Yup you are correct.
UlvKriger 1 year ago
@powerslave02
IMO the Christians tamed us in scandinavia, took our culture away. What we got of culture now is just a shadow of what we once had in the viking ages.
EmberBurn333 1 year ago
@EmberBurn333 Atleast your country and language didnt get raped by the french...
anonymous243124 9 months ago
@powerslave02 They are considered by many even Odinists to have been false Christians, I doubt do to Historical evidence that is actually true myself......as although I honor jesus and all the other gods and goddesses that exist see all Christians misguided by each other. And simply stating what man says to man, then saying Jesus said it when in fact it was just them.
enslavedandcondemned 1 year ago
@powerslave02 Long live the Aesir! Follow the Wanderer! I am an Odinist, Home is where the Heathen Banners fly!
KnifeNut88 1 year ago