Doug Stanhope: democracy is a flawed theory

[TheBigKiller]

Hail Eris!

[maria3626352]

Demcracy = Mob Rule

[darkblood626]

To true witch is one of the reasons why America was founded as a constitutional republic.

[logorrhea]

RIGHT! Democracy is JUST the fairest system to select management for public affairs as opposed to private affairs. Not to be confused with acclamation of messiahs or war leaders, nor to solve your personal PRIVATE problems or those of other people.

[MorbidHybrid]

The two dislikes were from the Republicans and Democrats.

[wistoncap]

The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting. --- Charles Bukowski

[SkeksisRule]

@wistoncap So true man. And we don't even get a vote on the important decisions. Once we vote people into congress they sit and claim they represent us. Then they vote on how THEY feel the laws should be changed, usually to their benefit or one of their rich buddies. If Americans had a real say in it, I don't think we would ever go to war either. It should be voted on, and anyone who votes yes should be drafted in to go to war. 

[fsxlover]

I think that will work perfectly, just burn Dow half of the walmarts in america and the small town economy will flourish.

[BelleAndTheBoy]

Market anarchy is the only moral and sustainable solution to the problem of peaceful human co-existence. Everything else is slavery dressed up.

[TheFauxpas42]

@BelleAndTheBoy Until someone shoots you and takes your shit.

[BelleAndTheBoy]

@TheFauxpas42 That happens in democracy too. Anarchy won't get rid of the criminals with guns but it will get rid of the criminals in uniforms and replace them with actual professionals who give a damn about protecting you and your property.

[SpinalTree]

@BelleAndTheBoy I feel sad that Anarchy is a very misunderstood concept that's often used as a "panic word". You seem to grasp it's true meaning. I personally think that anarchy mixed with a resource-based economy would be a much better alternative to all currently existing forms of government. Of course there will never truly be world peace sadly, but I think that right now at our stage in humanity it is the best possible choice. My opinion doesn't matter, just nice to see another anarchist.

[iamnotanumberiamaman]

@SpinalTree what you're describing is laissez faire, free market capitalism. That's the crumbling system which we already have.

[BelfastAtheist]

@iamnotanumberiamaman

>Thinking Free-Market Capitalism has ever existed..

Jesus, you haven't studied Economics much have you? What we have is STATE-Capitalism, and STATE-Capitalism is the only reason why the 'Developed' Nations are developed at all.

[0ntheWaydown]

@SpinalTree I agree completely. glad to know there are other like minded people out there.

[fly8oy51]

@BelleAndTheBoy Anarcho-Capitalism?

[BelleAndTheBoy]

@fly8oy51 That's the one.

[gregarious24]

Was there a purpose for the last 20 seconds of this video?

[RaabBlog]

@gregarious24 yes

[sarahannstarmer]

Democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried. -Sir Winston Churchill

[sundancekid122]

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. -Voltaire

[itcanbecheezcaketime]

Democracy is a rule by majority. And unfortunately, the majority don't know what's best for the whole group. They only know what's best for them as an individual. That being said... is it not obvious the best type of system, is no system?

[beardedswine]

@MrSpemat it doesn't matter what year it is, democracy is flawed, especially when all our media is owned by one group and run for their interests

[beardedswine]

"mob rule" or democracy is 10 white supremist kiddie fiddling fat wife beating retards hanging a black person for no reason. 10 votes to 1, you lose buddy. very flawed system

[niriop]

The all-American "republican spirit" is such idealistic and non-historical bullshit, and all this democracy bashing is going the wrong way; the problems are the representatives, and the lack of informed democracy.

[poorfa4s]

@niriop the problem is you. and your warped misinterpretation of simply stated opinion. you're about as corrupt as any other neoconservative asshole

[niriop]

@poorfa4s So its best that unelected officials and seedy market oligrachs rule society rather than the public themselves? This is inconsistent bullshit. Saying the public are stupid is a self-defeating statement because you are of the public, therefore you are stupid, and any opinion of yours does not matter because you are self-admittedly stupid, even the one about the public being stupid. But don't worry: lets have the Ron Pauls and Koch Brothers of the world take care of us...

[poorfa4s]

@niriop ahaha. ok. that is some twisted logic there BRO. actually i think the term is called pretzel logic; where you take something and take it into a completly different dimension of being so that only the sentence structure makes sense and nothing else. 1 your generalizing my statement. never even used the word 'public' or 'stupid.' 2 because i disagree with a majority of something i am a part of, what i say is irrelevant? if that were true there'd be nothing new 'nd nothing would change.

[niriop]

@poorfa4s I assumed you with agreeing with and defending the content of the video near entirely given your comment had little other content than calling me an asshole; I'm not a fucking mind reader, I can't tell what you're thinking. In fact, you still haven't made your position clear whatsoever.

[poorfa4s]

@niriop haha nah dude, i dont think my stand point really had anything to do with what i said. or doug's for that matter. but since you sound curious, ill tell you. i think the 'officials' are essentially unelected as it is. you decide between two guys, both of which are put in place by marketing campaigns and hand picked by some government hierarchy. and we trust that they are qualified simply by the fact that they are even in that position to begin with. i got lots mor 2say on ths bt ill w8 ha

[poorfa4s]

@niriop but basically.. i think if he sat and seriously thought about it, i dont think he'd be saying the same thing. its jus his comedic approach

[poorfa4s]

@niriop nice grammar btw... dumbass. hah. jesus.

[niriop]

@poorfa4s Nice use of punctuation

[IcanSeeDeadPeople18]

doug at the end of this endorsed Keynes

who is wrong

[mbear14]

@charbarly good point. but i'd rather be screwed by a local govt than the fed govt. then at least you have the option of living in the state whose laws best reflect your values, which was the original intent. when it's the fed govt making the bogus laws it becomes one size fits all.

[mbear14]

Ron Paul 2012. The only candidate attempting to educate everyone that presidents aren't supposed to lead...that they're ill-equipped to do so and don't have the constitutional authority. give the power to the states and the individuals to figure shit out without federal government interference. i'm sold on the idea. thank you doug!

[Donatellangelo]

Ironically, the majority of people that rated agree! :D

[MatthewJoelSforcina]

This man is a cracker!

[roflwaffle12321]

@MatthewJoelSforcina ...coming from an Australian. the most racist first world country...in the world.

[MatthewJoelSforcina]

@roflwaffle12321

You obviously don't do your research and listen to sideways comments on news reports. Until you've been here and lived here, enjoy your naivety and your willingness to be told what you are.

[FreshNostalgia]

@MatthewJoelSforcina He's the fuckin anti-cracker. What are you talking about?

[shadylurker138]

To the poster: Democracy is not a theory its a concept.

[TheKaffeeKlatsch]

@1337bard I hear you!

[TheKaffeeKlatsch]

Lucky for us we were founded as a REPUBLIC.

[natmanprime]

yes corect

at least a monarchy's is understandable bcause the monarch's supposed to be a demi god

so if you're gonna pick a leader that's who you'd pick obviously

but an ordinary man? with responsibility to his own family? what if he's forced to choose between his family and us?? we're fucked

if you're gonna pick an ordinary human to lead all of you, you're demoting yourself to a pack animal.

PROTO HOMINID dude with your meat eating ways yes your meat eating ways

wtf is wrong with you

[americanu197]

democracy is a good idea...dont hate democracy just because people with economic interests are applying it badly...same with laws , most laws are a good idea but laws or often applied badly and in a biased way so everything goes to shit

[kbb28]

@americanu197

democracy states that if 55 % of the population voted that the other 45% should be shot...that, that is a proper way to go about things. we don't have democracy we have a constitutional republic in the us.

[MrThefish86]

@kbb28 a constitutional republic is a form of democracy. What you are referring to would be called direct democracy.

[etocadet]

why we do we need a controlling government, if democracy exists then why isn't it when a party puts an idea forward (and not just the controlling party like it is in the uk now) those 750 MP's should work together, Mp's should create ideas give them to their party leader and he should decide which ones should be brought up, not just the controlling party nudging us one direction for 4 years and then to be nudged in the other direction

[Dreamerx47]

oh god people just repeat what he, carlin and hicks said on and on and on

grow a fucking brain please

[omnisearch]

@Dreamerx47 Maybe they're on to something. Maybe i'm a dreamer too?

[davyjames]

The fallacy here is that by making the big companies charge more by smashing stuff yes the small company might be able to compete easier but ALL POOR PEOPLE will now have to pay more for their goods and services.

The poor people VOLUNTARILY choose to shop at the big stores that can sell things cheaper because they are POOR. Everybody has the choice, right now, not to shop at big corporations if they hate them so much.

[Frank06785]

He can use ftw any way he likes. Hop off his nuts jeez

[NeCr0n0miC0n]

democrazy is the worst form of government - except for all those other forms, that have been tried from time to time.

Winston Churchill  (he just didnt say democracy with a "z" - but i do)

[DarkTempIarKain]

YESS I support

COMRADE DOUG DESTROYS DEMOCRACY FOR US

[ShawnRavenfire]

I think it was Winston Churchill who said, "The best argument against democracy is to spend five minutes with the average voter."

[khazal12]

i say this all the time although this is the first time i've heard it from someone else. props to doug he said this before i did i think i just caught on afterwards lol. People as a collective are fucking idiots. Maybe each person might think they're smart but put them in a group of 100,000,000 and that'll be the dumbest group of assholes on the planet. thats why we shouldnt vote, cos we dont know shit, but i cant offer an alternative though cos im an idiot too :)

[ugandaplayer]

@khazal12 stop saying bullshit son , clear your mind , be the best that you can be and ignore all the self judgemental bullshit.

[fibbsabaddy]

None are more helplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.

[discordian420]

That's one of my favorite quotes.

[fibbsabaddy]

and so true. Democracy is genius if you think about it. The illusion of freedom is the best system of control.

[poomanonfire]

I think I heard that on zeitgiest who made that quote?

[discordian420]

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[fibbsabaddy]

indeed he did. Are you familiar with the venus project?

[discordian420]

Heard of it from different people but I dont really know what it is.

[fibbsabaddy]

Oh bro you need to check it out. It is the way forward. I believe in nothing and this seems to me to be the only thing that remotely makes sense. I know people always say check this or that out but if there is one thing you should check out over everything else is the movie 'zeitgeist addendum'. In turn the zeitgeist movement and the venus project (which all fall under one idea/movement). Start with zeitgeist addendum. If you like Doug and outside the box ideas you will love it.

[c4h2u0k]

@fibbsabaddy "if you like Doug and outside the box ideas you will love it"

so true .... Dougs ideas about religion , politics , and society actually led me to that film and now i embrace the ideas wholeheartedly but with the cynicism that comes with living in this country for 30+ years . good to see others promoting it as i have

[fibbsabaddy]

you have no idea how long it took to find you. Lol. What are doing for z-day?

[DarkTempIarKain]

@fibbsabaddy its a dumb western theory that tries to get these macines to infinitely harvest resources so no one will ever have to work. It's dumb because it can't happen

[fibbsabaddy]

@DarkTempIarKain Do you mean the venus project? If you are you are extremely wide of the mark as to what it is. It is a shame you feel that way as it makes sense regardless of how far fetched it seems. They said the same of Cromwell by the way.

[DarkTempIarKain]

@fibbsabaddy sorry dumbass, but communism is the only way to work.

[fibbsabaddy]

@DarkTempIarKain Do you get some sort of whimsical pleasure by being spiteful in every comment you make on you tube. It is just that I find it rather amusing as you would more than likely not say these things face to face. You would build your points constructively with a willingness to engage. Anyways, have you read Animal farm by George Orwell? I think you may find it really interesting. Also I would add that communism in terms of sharing is of course a great idea.

[DarkTempIarKain]

@fibbsabaddy communism ftw

[fibbsabaddy]

@DarkTempIarKain What is ftw? Sorry for being, um, oh yeah a dumb ass. Lol

[DarkTempIarKain]

@fibbsabaddy It means for the win. You dumbass ;)

[trisnjok]

@DarkTempIarKain it means "fuck the world" and it's always meant that, until some emo-teen-midleclass-mamasboys tried to change it and you people followed like sheep to the slaughter.

[DarkTempIarKain]

@trisnjok Wrong, you just failed yoruself and your peers :)

[trisnjok]

@DarkTempIarKain ignoramus

[DarkTempIarKain]

@trisnjok No, you.

[trisnjok]

@DarkTempIarKain FTW was originally a tattoo, sported by prisoners which meant fuck the world.

For the win?

Who would use "for the win" in a conversation?

Fair dinkum you'd sound like a dickhead, mate.

[DarkTempIarKain]

@trisnjok You clearly don't get out that much.

[trisnjok]

@DarkTempIarKain I actually do, thats how i know about "fuck the world" and not that other shit from world-of-warcraft twats....

[DarkTempIarKain]

@trisnjok Because Modern Culture is too complicated for you.

[trisnjok]

@DarkTempIarKain because WoW twats, realityTV fads, emo gayass scene and brain-numbing-online-teen-dwee­b "language" is EVERYTHING BUT culture, and I avoid it AS MUCH AS I CAN... Modern horseshit, I would say, and that's probably your thing... Go watch Dane Cook, Gabriel Iglesias, Carlos Mencia or MadTV and GTFO.

[DarkTempIarKain]

@trisnjok You're just bitching because I'm right.

[trisnjok]

@DarkTempIarKain hahahahaha... end of discussion it is then.

[DarkTempIarKain]

@trisnjok Hahahahahaha, you omit to my argument. LOL

[trisnjok]

@DarkTempIarKain no, you had no argument so i presumed the discussion is over. i guess i was wrong...

[DarkTempIarKain]

@trisnjok No, I already won the argument and you attempted to change the goalpost and failed.

[trisnjok]

@DarkTempIarKain yeah, infantile tactics... repeat it to yourself fo so long that it becomes truth... at least in your mind... bye,bye...

[DarkTempIarKain]

@trisnjok Yeah, you just can't handle that I"m right.

[YourBrainOnReIigion]

@trisnjok You know, he's right

[trisnjok]

@YourBrainOnReIigion so, you, as a 30yo go around saying "for the win"? sorry, but that's just lame.

[YourBrainOnReIigion]

@trisnjok I was pointing out rather your idea of democracy and why it's falwed and why Doug believes socialism works. That's all, no need to get all butt hurt with me boy.

[trisnjok]

@YourBrainOnReIigion then you are waaay off... i wasn't talking about democracy/socialism at all.. i was arguing with someone about some trivial shit like "ftw" abbreviation...

but, as we are on the topic, i've lived in socialism and trust me, it doesn't work... but, neither does democracy...

[YourBrainOnReIigion]

@trisnjok Try atheism chump

[simyijin2004]

@trisnjok "Ftw means fuck the world" ? LOL I'm sorry but you're just stupid. If you think that, you obviously don't know the meaning and you're making some alternative meaning up so you would sound credible. If that ever was a meaning (Which I doubt) it's surely an old one, like yourself. :)

[morgmagg]

@trisnjok You are correct about FTW; it's tattooed on my arm. Beneath that it says, "EAT SHIT AND DIE." I never heard any other meaning for FTW until recently; "For The Win" sounds like something a kid would tell his mom to pull the wool over her eyes--it's comically absurd. I knew someone who wore a jacket to school that had FTW in big letters on the back. The principal was upset, so this dude said it stood for "Freddy The Warlock," and wouldn't budge on the story.

[M4napalm]

@fibbsabaddy im actually talkin to people about it and how it make us better off...but of course i usually get shot down even though they know nothing and did no research of a resource-based economy whatsoever e_e

[fibbsabaddy]

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. Are you a member of the zeitgeist movement?

[JustusGregorius]

@fibbsabaddy Fucking Eh!

[twilightawakening]

@fibbsabaddy Exactly. Exactly.

[ZqweBSname]

wish the sane people would start moving to the same place and just occupuing a city or something.

[scholarlylad85]

I'm with ya, where are we going? haha

[allthatisandeverwas]

Look on Doug Stanhope's wikipedia. We're going to New Hampshire.

[adamthebaddun]

@ZqweBSname check out the Free State Project

[discordian420]

It is pretty funny the extent to which there was a perfect answer to his statement.

[crazypaul34]

The saddest thing in this clip is that there are too many people voing for jesus every four years. We're living in a lemming society.