I don't think that there's really any other desktop computer in the world that could ever be better designed than ANY of the iMacs, starting from the G4 to present time.
@4izm0v The iMac G5 is probably the most hideous, the new ones are MUCH better and much nicer looking, but the iMac G4 is the best design they've ever come up with.
this is were apple ran out of design ideas with the imac, adding aluminum isnt a revolution design, (but it looks really cool) besides that apple really needs to do a new redesign for the imac
@ttMikee its already down to a screen and a stand... theres nothing much you could "revolutionize". unless you can get it to float in the air with some kind of anti gravity thing. you can get rid of the stand
@EcoDimension yeah, but I just like to see something new from apple, (besides the iOS devices redesign ) I just don't want to see the same design for the next 10 years.
@ttMikee agreed. the difference have been minimal since the first alum iMac. guess their focus is on their hot sellers.
also their product design have been closely link to their themes of that period. from the beginning white/candy color acrylic to white/clear acrylic to pure white to metallic to metallic with black bezels(current) . what do you think is next?
@HellYeahhhhhh thats so mac users wont freak out where the power button is. like kids in my school have montiters with power buttons on the back and they freak out u see wat i mean?
@iza2098 the difference is, it is a different processor inside! You know how today we have Intel and AMD CPUs right? yea but apple didnt use Intel before 2005 i think or 2006, they use this CPU called the PowerPC CPU which was made by Apple, IBM and Motorola. So the iMac G5 had a different design. And yours is an iMac with an Intel CPU.
@MetallicaBoy1997 most likely because technology caught up LOL, heck most computers in 2002 didn't even have a DVD drive let alone at DVD/RW super drive they where still early in the market, the professional Quicksilver Power Mac line where the first computers which could burn & play DVDs introduced in 2001, technology clearly caught up and the drives could be rotated
The white Imac is gorgeous when you see it in person, it's very zen and looks like a home computer that fits in with any decor, where as the aluminum is still very gorgeous as well, but looks very professional and industrial. I think Apple should never have discontinued the white model.
Damn! I can't wait until i get my hands on one of those! Only 2 inches thin?! Thats as thin as paper! 17" display?! Thats frigging huge!!!!! I can't wait until they come out this September...
@Jk981206 an imac i7 duo-core xD I love apple.. i just don't care much about design :D I just need performance! what would a computer be if it wasn't powerful enought for stuff I do! i kno! mac got good design .. good performance! I don't mind paying a little bit more for the design .. because what u get is... just.. AMAZING!
Interesting how ahead of the times this thing was really. Back in 2004 you'd be lucky to find a SATA PC off the shelf. Hell, it didn't seem like the PC industry cared that much about SATA till around 2006-7. You could still buy PC's with IDE drives up to a few years go, when Apple had already moved entirely over to SATA for their hard drives. Same with USB 2.0, Apple were among the 1st to move to it totally, took a few years for the Windows side (and SP1 for XP).
how many times are people going to laugh at that shitty joke ! "our back is more beautiful than the front of any others" they used it in every single introduction to a new apple computer. no joke, EVERY one
@djw3sly Look at the IBM POWER6 and POWER7 CPU's, those things are BEASTS! They're aimed at the server/supercomputer/workstation market though rather than the consumer market that Macs are aimed at, which is why they moved to Intel, who focus more on the consumer market. It would be seriously awesome to have a PowerMac G7 though with 2 8core 4GHz PowerPC CPU's though! I think MrBit10 would jizz himself if that happened lmao.
4-5 years ago: people hailed at a 1.86GHz G5................. Today, people wanted at least 3Ghz, Intel Core i3 and a 1.8GHz to them only belong to netbooks!
@LittleEmoBoy001 The main reason was because IBM was not developing the architecture in an ambitious way. It was holding them back. At the time there were significant performace difference for the same power being consumed by the equivelant Intel.
It also meant increased compatability with x86 software allowing boot camp for one of many benefits.
@bathellfire wow...it's amazing how intelligent kids are technology wise these days. $250 is a friggin steal for a machine like that....thats about £175 where I live...
i love the imac g5 but i got if off ebay and there were startup problems so i had to wait 30 minutes to be able to use it again. Then in between that time period it would die!
i ihave the inc one now that the see it crane a year ago and apple put in a new motorist not old but you see apple just put in a new motherboard and loco Bord and sound Bord so it not that old but i cant use goose chrome i am using chrome on my PC
Yeah... Cheers and awe. Then they found out that Apple goes low-bid on their parts just like everyone else. Bad caps on the MB and in the PS and they're dead.
I still have this computer, except its the Intel Core Duo version (24") that came out in 2006. It works just fine, but its not my main machine because i am a PC!
Wow, a whopping 2 GIGABYTES OF RAM, NO WAY. Yep, That's more than somebody will ever need! (I'm here, typing this on a 24" iMac icoreduo 2.66ghz, 4gb ram)
why Paris? confused
adamtarca 19 hours ago
"The show..." 2.49. Apple events really are "shows"!
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I like my windows phone. :D
Oslokiddo 3 days ago
I can't believe this was in 2006.
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@GamesAndTechTV That's because it wasn't in 2006, this computer was announced in 2004.
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Oh phill, you still look and sound the same. I thought this was one of those videos that have a different title than what it is.
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i just ordered one. used but in good conditions. 2.1GHz, 1.5GB RAM (soon expanded to 2.5GB). now waiting for arrival... i already love it :-)
Martengus 2 weeks ago 3
I don't think that there's really any other desktop computer in the world that could ever be better designed than ANY of the iMacs, starting from the G4 to present time.
NicksLocker 2 weeks ago 2
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Absolutely, but even G3 is more beautiful than lots of PC's today
4pplicator 1 week ago
@4pplicator That is sort of true. Even the old CRT iMac can look a bit better than a couple of PCs today.
NicksLocker 1 week ago
@NicksLocker
I agree. Even to this day there aren't any good designed Windows computers.
GamesAndTechTV 5 days ago
No gigabit ethernet? Lame.
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The iMac G4 looked the best. I still find the new ones with their chin kinda ugly, definitely better than the iMac G5 but still kinda ugly.
4izm0v 2 months ago
@4izm0v I am inlove with the G5, I love it more than the new Imacs, I am gonna buy 1 for sure.
RoShAnOWNEDyou 1 month ago 3
@RoShAnOWNEDyou I wish the iMac looked as slick as the Cinema Display.
4izm0v 1 month ago
@4izm0v That'll probably what the new iMac will look more like
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@4izm0v The iMac G5 is probably the most hideous, the new ones are MUCH better and much nicer looking, but the iMac G4 is the best design they've ever come up with.
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Phil should've been the new CEO.
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My dad asked me that...where is the computer?
cobretta 3 months ago 5
watching these videos makes my life meaningful
YourTypicalGeek 3 months ago 5
iMac g4 was better.
steynproductions 3 months ago
I thought the g3's design was far better. Steve even said that shoving the computer behind a flat monitor was a bad idea.
WeEatBrainz 3 months ago
@WeEatBrainz it was a bad idea at the time but years later those issues were worked out. Though the G4 looked best of all iMac.
FridayNightFilmsCA 3 months ago
15inch imac
GordonGraphic86 3 months ago
I wish phil took over apple, or atleast the keynotes
schnurr31 3 months ago 5
I hope phil is the next CEO i love the guy
Gerald45 3 months ago 3
R.I.P. Steve Jobs
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boomguy12345 3 months ago 5
To be honest, I really thought Phil will be Apple's new CEO, if anybody understood Steve's idea and respected them, it was him... :)
Merc140497 3 months ago 3
@Merc140497 Plus he is at least interesting to listen to and has a lot of enthusiasm, compared to Cook's obsession with numbers and %
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psbj 3 months ago
I so desire one of these to add to my collection..
almann1117 4 months ago
@almann1117 eBay, babe.
htti31 3 months ago
audio volume..low? (shruggs). cool memories though..cheers
chronofusion 4 months ago
YES !
kingbecher1 4 months ago
OMG it's almost mid September!!
Again :P
GT5Enthusiast 4 months ago
3:18
And inside the new iMuac...
Phil pronounces iMac as iMuac haha
CKiaAn97 5 months ago
this is were apple ran out of design ideas with the imac, adding aluminum isnt a revolution design, (but it looks really cool) besides that apple really needs to do a new redesign for the imac
ttMikee 5 months ago
@ttMikee its already down to a screen and a stand... theres nothing much you could "revolutionize". unless you can get it to float in the air with some kind of anti gravity thing. you can get rid of the stand
EcoDimension 5 months ago 2
@EcoDimension yeah, but I just like to see something new from apple, (besides the iOS devices redesign ) I just don't want to see the same design for the next 10 years.
ttMikee 5 months ago
@ttMikee agreed. the difference have been minimal since the first alum iMac. guess their focus is on their hot sellers.
also their product design have been closely link to their themes of that period. from the beginning white/candy color acrylic to white/clear acrylic to pure white to metallic to metallic with black bezels(current) . what do you think is next?
EcoDimension 5 months ago
Thumps up if your watching this on an apple product.
1goldenchongo2 5 months ago 307
@1goldenchongo2 15" Macbook Pro.
zamardii12 3 months ago in playlist Steve Jobs's Keynotes
@zamardii12 64gb ipod touch 4g
1goldenchongo2 3 months ago
@1goldenchongo2 27inch iMac
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FreeForAllGamerz 3 weeks ago
thumbs up if you are watching this in 2011 :D
KariimIsTheName 5 months ago 15
what a piece of shit
Digijedi569 6 months ago
@Digijedi569
yeah,not upgradeable,underpowered,and the apple os update cycle means it will be in the bin in a few years
heathirving 6 months ago
why the hell would u want the power button on the back
jro9001 6 months ago
@jro9001 Why would YOU want the power button on the front?? Cuz you keep shutting down/starting up your Mac?
HellYeahhhhhh 5 months ago
@HellYeahhhhhh thats so mac users wont freak out where the power button is. like kids in my school have montiters with power buttons on the back and they freak out u see wat i mean?
jro9001 5 months ago
No Jobs, no Fun...
chazcover 6 months ago 5
which pixel is the firewire port?
SimHarrison 7 months ago
It is now made to aluminum body
spartan117ism 7 months ago
@spartan117ism NNNOOOO!!!!
2112gil 7 months ago
iMac G5 Has intel and
spartan117ism 7 months ago
lol just like the human centIpad =P
PatatjesDora 7 months ago
lol h
PatatjesDora 7 months ago
screw it and put it back togheder lol
masterrock1997 7 months ago
question, is it compatible with a G4 cube?
ghoulia21 7 months ago
@ghoulia21 that's a mac not a display
mecieTech 7 months ago
2004 year:1899 dollers
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ultimatetoturial56 7 months ago
phil schiller still looks the EXACT same :)
Ceasar1030 7 months ago in playlist Steve Jobs's Keynotes 149
@Ceasar1030 Phil Schiller is an android. Mac OS X based of course.
rizulli 7 months ago in playlist Steve Jobs's Keynotes
@Ceasar1030 If you look at the macworld 1998 keynote he also still looks the same :)
Nefus1988 4 months ago
Why dont they introduce products like this anymore?
JordanLolss 8 months ago 2
After he introduced the prices, i was wondering. Is this during a time when the American Dollar was worth more than the Euro?
djpablito 8 months ago
I'm watching this on one of these right now. And yes, when I first saw it, I asked: "where is the computer?"
KantisV 8 months ago
its so interesting to go back and watch how the desktop has evolved.
Bocephusdixie 8 months ago
But can it run Crysis?
7600p36 8 months ago
@7600p36 in those day no consumer market based pc could
rubenandpimslapping 8 months ago
I never use my new iMac to the limit so I decided to get one of theses
MrWillpromo 8 months ago
basically a big iPad with a stand...
hcvang 8 months ago
@hcvang Not even close.
DeeWox 8 months ago
WOW A NEW IMAC, wait why we cheering at its design it still looks the same..
graphicgiraffe 9 months ago
6:23 It's easy to put in wireless and memory and then screw it...
MrVinney96 9 months ago
that is to thin, you can cut your self if your not careful
KREATIVEMINDZ02160 9 months ago
is it nesscery to have so much space at the bottem of it?
FerteenOfficial 10 months ago
Low sound. I need to turn speakers up to 100%
dennisjonkristensen 10 months ago
Ya ours to
iPadmackid12 10 months ago
holy sh*t that looks mighty think compared to my brand new iMac '27 inch.
TheMusicArchivee 10 months ago
how come the ear phone jack, usb, fine wire, and so on are verticle on mine the plugs are horizontil
iza2098 11 months ago
@iza2098 You have a newer model.
iKingAntonio 11 months ago
@iza2098 thats a G5 maybe yours is an Intel
Hellhelium11231995 9 months ago
@Hellhelium11231995 whats the diffrents
iza2098 9 months ago
@iza2098 the difference is, it is a different processor inside! You know how today we have Intel and AMD CPUs right? yea but apple didnt use Intel before 2005 i think or 2006, they use this CPU called the PowerPC CPU which was made by Apple, IBM and Motorola. So the iMac G5 had a different design. And yours is an iMac with an Intel CPU.
Hellhelium11231995 9 months ago
it's so simple!
thanhpluv 11 months ago
thats seriously exactly what i said when i saw one of those for the first time. "where's the computer?"
tallblondekid 11 months ago
The 'Jay Leno' G5 :)
barispurut 11 months ago 20
when steve introduced the g4 he said they couldnt put a superdrive in the side. so what do they do 2 years later?? put it in the side wtf?
MetallicaBoy1997 11 months ago 2
@MetallicaBoy1997 most likely because technology caught up LOL, heck most computers in 2002 didn't even have a DVD drive let alone at DVD/RW super drive they where still early in the market, the professional Quicksilver Power Mac line where the first computers which could burn & play DVDs introduced in 2001, technology clearly caught up and the drives could be rotated
macnerd93 11 months ago
how come they slagged the g4 design? that was an awesome design!
randomrazr 1 year ago
I wonder if IBM still make processors? Do they have anything better than a G5 now, something that FLY like...er, I don't know...
adamshiftyelso 1 year ago
@adamshiftyelso Yes, they do. PowerPC is still alive and well, and what Apple would have called the G6 is being used in several supercomputers.
drygnfyre 1 year ago
@drygnfyre imagine a 5ghz G6 ppc macbook air
leenevin2 11 months ago
steve jobs can only presents apple products
Sha12333 1 year ago
The white Imac is gorgeous when you see it in person, it's very zen and looks like a home computer that fits in with any decor, where as the aluminum is still very gorgeous as well, but looks very professional and industrial. I think Apple should never have discontinued the white model.
lynx2cross 1 year ago
lol i bought 2 imac's i got a g5 and now the newest one there so good!!!
iOpticKillai 1 year ago
Damn! I can't wait until i get my hands on one of those! Only 2 inches thin?! Thats as thin as paper! 17" display?! Thats frigging huge!!!!! I can't wait until they come out this September...
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iSamuel98 1 year ago
@kukulis2323
it wont work
kukulis2323 1 year ago
I don't care if it's thin! I just need it to work well!!!!
VRTO92 1 year ago
@VRTO92 IT DOES! Just get the new i3 one!
Jk981206 1 year ago
@Jk981206 dude ... I'm saying that design doesn't look much for me ok?
VRTO92 1 year ago
@VRTO92 Oh, okay. Well, then what computer do you have now?
Jk981206 1 year ago
@Jk981206 an imac i7 duo-core xD I love apple.. i just don't care much about design :D I just need performance! what would a computer be if it wasn't powerful enought for stuff I do! i kno! mac got good design .. good performance! I don't mind paying a little bit more for the design .. because what u get is... just.. AMAZING!
VRTO92 1 year ago
@VRTO92 Well, now you can have design and performance, right?
Jk981206 1 year ago
@Jk981206 YEAH! that's why i bought the imac :D because the performance realy stands out !!
VRTO92 1 year ago
@VRTO92 It's true, right? They're always a few years ahead of the competition!
Jk981206 1 year ago
@Jk981206 yeah that's pretty true!
VRTO92 1 year ago
all mac user are anorexic...
They just want to be thin, thinner, and thinnest...
pufixas 1 year ago
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I am quite fat.
DementedElvis 1 year ago
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me too!
that's why i'm getting mac for christmas :D
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jesikaadom 1 year ago
Interesting how ahead of the times this thing was really. Back in 2004 you'd be lucky to find a SATA PC off the shelf. Hell, it didn't seem like the PC industry cared that much about SATA till around 2006-7. You could still buy PC's with IDE drives up to a few years go, when Apple had already moved entirely over to SATA for their hard drives. Same with USB 2.0, Apple were among the 1st to move to it totally, took a few years for the Windows side (and SP1 for XP).
TalesOfWar 1 year ago
how many times are people going to laugh at that shitty joke ! "our back is more beautiful than the front of any others" they used it in every single introduction to a new apple computer. no joke, EVERY one
geekypoo 1 year ago
@ Gameboykd u r probably running it on boot camp on a mac then!!!
TheLegomaniac25 1 year ago
@TheLegomaniac25 no im running it on my hp mini 210 1010nr. cute little netbook for CS 1.6, word processing, and internet.
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MrLethalfire 1 year ago
@Gameboykd Why do you say this in a vid about an iMac
MrLethalfire 1 year ago
The one thing that killed many G5 iMacs was bad caps but beyond that they are still good computers.
MrKillswitch88 1 year ago
I wish they have a "G6" version... It just sounds cool with thier "AirPort" wireless!
djw3sly 1 year ago
@djw3sly Look at the IBM POWER6 and POWER7 CPU's, those things are BEASTS! They're aimed at the server/supercomputer/workstation market though rather than the consumer market that Macs are aimed at, which is why they moved to Intel, who focus more on the consumer market. It would be seriously awesome to have a PowerMac G7 though with 2 8core 4GHz PowerPC CPU's though! I think MrBit10 would jizz himself if that happened lmao.
TalesOfWar 1 year ago
4-5 years ago: people hailed at a 1.86GHz G5................. Today, people wanted at least 3Ghz, Intel Core i3 and a 1.8GHz to them only belong to netbooks!
djw3sly 1 year ago
@djw3sly I require 4 ghz :D
cokefan3 1 year ago
Good memories :D
ultimatetoturial56 1 year ago
The ventilation on iMacs has been done really well. They run really cool, and silent when idle.
Heavykani 1 year ago
This completely contradicts everything they said wouldnt work in the iMac g4
TheDukmaster 1 year ago
it's a great design, but I prefer thw G4's design
victorteles95 1 year ago
@LittleEmoBoy001 the problems are there was no temp control for fans so they were loud and some had leaky capacitors
jtd1999 1 year ago
What was the problem with this model? I heard it didn't do that well.
LittleEmoBoy001 1 year ago
@LittleEmoBoy001 It did fine. The cooling for the CPU aint that good (noisy), but overall - great computer.
bathellfire 1 year ago
@bathellfire
I heard they expedited the intel version because the G5's kept failing.
LittleEmoBoy001 1 year ago
@LittleEmoBoy001 The main reason was because IBM was not developing the architecture in an ambitious way. It was holding them back. At the time there were significant performace difference for the same power being consumed by the equivelant Intel.
It also meant increased compatability with x86 software allowing boot camp for one of many benefits.
Gr33nMamba 1 year ago
@Gr33nMamba
But can you confirm whether or not the thing about G5's failing all the time is true?
LittleEmoBoy001 1 year ago
I just bought this computer for my kid on ebay for just $250 :)
bathellfire 1 year ago
@bathellfire lucky kid...
GCkidd 1 year ago
@GCkidd my 6 y/o kid has an iPhone 3G too :) It's my old one, that he now uses as gaming and music device.
bathellfire 1 year ago
@bathellfire wow...it's amazing how intelligent kids are technology wise these days. $250 is a friggin steal for a machine like that....thats about £175 where I live...
GCkidd 1 year ago
im working on a 20inch imac G5 right now.... LOVE IT!!!!!!
ferrari24680 1 year ago
no Steve, no fun!
coccoborg 1 year ago 191
i love the imac g5 but i got if off ebay and there were startup problems so i had to wait 30 minutes to be able to use it again. Then in between that time period it would die!
nooksandcrannies1 1 year ago
i ihave the inc one now that the see it crane a year ago and apple put in a new motorist not old but you see apple just put in a new motherboard and loco Bord and sound Bord so it not that old but i cant use goose chrome i am using chrome on my PC
krogerman1 1 year ago
@krogerman1 Goose Chrome? Loco Board? LMFAO
vantageIIx 1 year ago
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LOLWUTSUPERNINJA 1 year ago
I have this same exact iMac only it's a G5 20".
CaptainDarren82 1 year ago
Yeah... Cheers and awe. Then they found out that Apple goes low-bid on their parts just like everyone else. Bad caps on the MB and in the PS and they're dead.
Revolutionary!!!
akaHermanSnerd 1 year ago
i like the presentation methods better with the older products apple made!!
Thumbs up for the iMac G5, rasing from below
jbclan 1 year ago
is funny this was on 2004 now in 2010 you see the all-in-one pc of hp and they say the future of computer is here
Carlosmashiado 1 year ago
@Carlosmashiado they should say "the past of computer is here"
bouchandre 1 year ago
...and I'm a PC.
pokewhiz7 1 year ago
He tried, but Steve is the best on stage.
angelusp777 1 year ago
Theyre all freakin out xD
GreatUnboxer 1 year ago
My family still use an eMac, unfortunetly it's not that good anymore, cuz it got hit by lightning :P
soulextracter 1 year ago
holy crap! this is when the US dollar was worth more than the euro! and not that long ago either!
SamCrazyVideos 1 year ago
Im using mine now!
Rocktecho 1 year ago
I still have this computer, except its the Intel Core Duo version (24") that came out in 2006. It works just fine, but its not my main machine because i am a PC!
Mister707Gamer 1 year ago
Iono, this guy is bad selling apple products. Only steve job can pull it off.
damthatriver09 1 year ago
Hahaha, Apple Fanboys/Girls just cheering for life in the background.
EpikTech 1 year ago
2.8 ghz quad core i7 with 16gb ram and a 2 tb hd.
sduffy12401 1 year ago
So, why does my 'old' G5, WHINE so loud??? anyone??? (help!)
YahshuaLovesMe 1 year ago
Wow, a whopping 2 GIGABYTES OF RAM, NO WAY. Yep, That's more than somebody will ever need! (I'm here, typing this on a 24" iMac icoreduo 2.66ghz, 4gb ram)
PalmyJason 1 year ago
"2 inches thin." Oh yeah, my iMac is less than 1 inch thin! :P
I love my new iMac. Never switching back.
LeGiiTWillie 1 year ago 55
@LeGiiTWillie my iMac is over a foot thick
cmarshall1018 1 year ago
@LeGiiTWillie shut up
NoFearKieranHere 11 months ago
these are still brilliant computers. There still usable. I use mine for internet, email and movie editing. Brilliant computer!!!!!
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iDiggMGL 1 year ago
36 people own a microsoft computer
savakucherin 1 year ago
@savakucherin microsoft doesn't make computers.
vantageIIx 1 year ago
@vantageIIx crap i got mixed up. thanks for pointing out my mistake though
savakucherin 1 year ago