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  • Roosevelt and Stain had good relationship - in Tehran Roosevelt stayed in Soviet Embassy instead of English one.

    I think both shared disdain for that cocky brit Churchill.

    

  • ACH! DAS IS NAS EINS BOOBIE!

  • "Oh No Homer! That's Joseph Stalin, America's best friend!" LOL

  • AHCK, AN SHTINE OV BEER FOR MINE FELLOW AMERICAN! classic. Rofl.

  • @TarasMarat I'd say considering all the weapons and troops that flooded along the Ho Chi Min trail to kill US Troop in Vietnam it would be hugely IRRESPONSIBLE TO NOT take action.

    Nicaragua the atrocities were not clear. One thing that was clear in the Cold War you couldn't let the communists size power. As to "free and open elections" where you could only vote for communist candidates!?!? Pah.

    You talk with a lot of paranoia over your Democratically elected President...

  • @TarasMarat > Accuses "ad hominem"

    >call me a "little prick"

    >mentions aspect of "level playing field"

    EXACTLY, that is the vital distinction between Special Forces intervention or taking out a local warlord who is disrupting aid distribution from War. Don't debate in absolutes. It isn't black and white. Military can intervene without there being an actual war, even in violation of sovereignty. That should be obvious.

    Sorry, you may not like to accept the Authority of your President but :P

  • @TarasMarat Good to see you finally recognise the legitimacy of military making Police Actions without congress needing to be involved. The aspect of whether it interferes with Sovereign nations is a capacity YOU have added in your own mind to The Constitution, constitutional authority military taking police action is not limited to the high seas, it can also be in failed or warring states.

  • @TarasMarat Freedom of Speech lets me state my interpretations just as much as it lets you.

    I can't read minds but I can read English, I can read the historical record, their arguments and of precedent. Your problem is you lack the reading to understand the distinction between "Declaring war" and "all external military action".

    You are going beyond what was actually written. Sorry if you don't like this, but The President does actually have SOME authority left!

  • @TarasMarat Strange, Libyans seem rather grateful for all the help in getting rid of Gadaffi. Hell, they BEGGED for involvement of foreign powers.

    Afghanistan is most definitely a war, congress voted for it.

    There is protocol, special forces do a very important job often short of all out war.

  • @TarasMarat The Coast guard IS part of the military. And the US Navy DOES intercept Drug runners, and pirates and takes many other "military actions" without congress.

    You're entitled to your opinion, but Nicuragia didn't decide to declare war on the US, it is their decision how the interpret US involvement.

  • @TarasMarat Key word there: clandestine.

    Learn the difference between War, and a couple of special forces guys joining in in a conflict. It does NOT help making alarmist argument that every little special forces operation must have full congressional approval, that's not what the Founding Fathers nor the wording of the constitution intends.

  • @TarasMarat Ho Chi Min trail went right through Laos and Cambodia. So you're wrong on that point.

    Something that might provoke war is not the same as actually declaring war. Special Forces operated in an espionage capacity, that is not war. All military action is not war, if a US Navy ship intercept a drug-running boat that is not an act of war. The President acted within the limit of his authority.

    I'm not bending definitions, you are the one painting ANY AND ALL military involvement as "war".

  • @TarasMarat Not explicitly, but it was within the remit of the Tonkin Resolution as there were North Vietnamese forces and their allies in Laos and Cambodia that were attacking South Vietnam.

    UN Mandate in Libya doesn't amount to war, no ground troops were committed.

    Nicaragua and similar weren't wars, it was more under the remit of espionage the way Special Forces operated, they certainly were treated like spies when/if captured. Espionage is of course an Executive affair.

  • @TarasMarat What due process was bypassed? Congress permitted the Vietnam War with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution "all conventional military force" was permitted. The democratically elected officials voted in approval.

    You need to recognise the distinction between a LEADER ASKING for and CONGRESS PERMITTING "war" in any form.

    The President has NOT stepped beyond his constitutional role in starting wars/conflicts which was your claim!

  • @TarasMarat I'm not splitting hairs, it was a de-facto war. It was only TECHNICALLY War could not be declared for several reasons:

    -it defied the intention of War Declaration, to pursue enemy to defeat, i.e. invade North Vietnam. The objective was to defend South Vietnam from multiple enemies (Laos, Cambodia).

    -An actual Declaration of War would be too likely considered a nuclear threat and escalate nuclear tensions in the region, another Cuban Missile Crisis.

    Everyone called it a war.

  • @TarasMarat if congress allows it to happen, that's democracy.

    I don't think the founding fathers would be foolish enough to let hundreds of voices together to show leadership on martial issues. The President is the leader, to obviously show leadership, and his job is to CONVINCE congress to follow... their LEADER!

    The Constitution's framers clearly wanted a leader, and if the leader can't even ask Congress to declare war/intervention and make a case for permission... then he is no leader.

  • @TarasMarat And congress voted approval in Gulf of Tonkin Resolution for all "conventional" military intervention.

    Remember, in 1964, "Declaration of War" meant ALL of the power of America's military could be used, including nuclear weapons. Congress didn't want to go that far such a declaration meant North Vietnam might be armed with Chinese/Russian nukes so risk World War 3.

    Also, War Declaration meant North Vietnam MUST be invaded+defeated. US just wanted to defend South Vietnam.

  • @TarasMarat Yeah, but they're not real wars. People have a short memory. Things like Somalia and Grenada resonate in the media but before WWII such military interventions happened all the time, both inside and outside the United States. The thing is Somalia seems like it's unprecedented but it happened all the time such as fighting Moro insurgents in Philippines.

    And Congress HAVE given approval of Gulf War, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc

  • @TarasMarat Congress HAVE used their power to authorise military intervention since WWII, what are you talking about?

    President may be able to start a conflict... but not fully commit. That was the failure of Vietnam.

  • This can't be from 1941 the simpsons wasn't created yet

  • @rugbystar2009 Sure it was.... LOL!!!

  • I wish the Simpsons was still this good :(

  • Goose Step on it!

  • i couldn't help über-hearing,...

  • I thought winston churchill was the usa best friend?

  • Mr.Burns old voice is pretty good.

  • ACH! ZAT IST NOT UT BOOBIE!!

  • Haha...Nazis.

  • i seen this one.. it was Grandpa in Drags trying to seduce Hitler...and it worked.lol

  • AND GOOSESTEP ON IT!

  • That's a paddlin'.

  • ahhh that is not a boobie

  • So Homer was the reason Stalin later hated us :P

  • @MrLaxdude89 stalin always hated america.

  • @vman11p1 yeah urr, nevermind

  • What I find amusing about this clip is that it reminds me so much of an real old-time radio show from the 40's (particularly in this audio-only format).

    That being said, it's a good thing they didn't put this in, then it might have set a "Family Guy"-style precedent in which there are random "clips" of the characters doing idiotic, unfunny crap that has absolutely nothing to do with the story just as a quick distraction from the lousiness of the plot (like in "FG" when there will be inserted s

  • i'm a big fan of hitlers work (:

  • @scottfser Spaniards did it before Hitler.

    The Egyptians could count, however the Jews didn't know they were Jews yet ;0

  • Quality, better than a new one and it was left un-aired back then.

  • You know a cartoon is good when it works even as a radio show

  • Berlin...and goose-step on it!

  • You know what? I kinda like this. From the audio, it seems like a pretty bang-on parody of all those WW2 Disney propaganda cartoons. Also, I like the idea of a cartoon that's only been running since 1989 creating a fake pre-history for itself that goes back the the 1940s.

  • I couldn't help uber-hearing......

  • @BAWK0 Yes, it had nothing to do with the Nazis. For once, they get off easy! :P

    Speak about the word "kid".. OH NOES! BAWK0 gotz to troll teh YouTubez like a fag.

  • That's pretty horrible. One good joke (Stalin) and irritating use of catchphrase-era Bart.

  • hitler put his hand infront of mussolinis face LOL!!

  • It's probably for the best this didn't air.

  • It's probably for the best this didn't air.

  • SIMPSOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!

  • Is this real?

  • @helpmeskate111 Yep.

  • no

  • @MutilatorTroy how do we know?

  • @MutilatorTroy wow 1943 soooo real simpsons wasn't even out then

  • @cocoluvslego1st Stupid retard. Go punch yourself and cry teenage girl.

  • Surely someone can do the animation for this... Simpsons-style characters aren't TOO difficult to draw.

  • ay caramba the fuhrer!!

  • I wish they showed this it would have been cool and funny

  • agh, twas a just war, that REALLY ignored the porportionite factor

  • Haha! a classic short!

  • @NFSDriftKingX ok i germany is so great then why did you guys get your ass kicked so badly? and why did Hitler kill himself like a little pussy? THUMBS UP FOR EVERY COUNTRY THAT FOUGHT AGAINST THE NAZI'S AND THERE MEN THAT DIED FIGHTING FOR WHAT WAS RIGHT!!

  • @ilikethatvid Only to turn a blind eye to Stalin as he murdered his way through three times more people then died during the Second Great War.

  • @ilikethatvid You mean retaining access to the European markets for the US? You realize that the US joined the war a couple of years late right? When it's shipping lanes started to get threatened by German U-boats? Not to mention Perl Harbor. The American people weren't too keen on getting killed to "save Europe" until those things happened. Don't mean to sound ungrateful but.. ;)

    Oh and before people start, it's not a slight against Americans either, other countries are exactly the same.

  • @megamarsvin Of course, tell that to our leaders NOW. We're so far up other countries' asses, we can't even solve our own debt problems.

  • @megamarsvin lend-lease

  • @megamarsvin Not exactly. My father was a US Marine who was fighting the Japanese in China in 1937. The war was already going on there and we tried to secure our interests in Shang-Hi and long enough to evacuate or give Chang Kai Shek's Armies a boost. He was in the seige of Shang-Hi when the international forces only could eat food that came in by sea for fear of dysintery, and held the city until ordered to evcuate en masse.

  • @megamarsvin I agree, I think its offensive to the millions of people that died before the Americans joined when people say that.

  • @megamarsvin don't feel bad for the US being late for the last two world wars; they'll be quite punctual for the next one.

  • @megamarsvin

    Not to mention they couldn't even handle their own front without significant support from Australia, New Zealand and Canada.

    The only reason America even got attacked in the first place is because Japan wanted their oil (ironic isn't it?).

  • @megamarsvin Pretty much like the British and the French didn't care to get a bloody nose trying to help Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, etc. Or the way most Europeans didn't really care about what was happening to Jews and dissident Germans once Hitler became Chancellor. But like you said, that's not a slight against any of those countries, either, because we're all exactly the same.

  • @tjhoenecke That's true. Like I said in my comment "it's not a slight against Americans either, other countries are exactly the same."

  • @megamarsvin Then again, we're not really all "exactly the same," are we? I mean, sure, every country has things its history to be rightly ashamed of; none of us should think our own country is somehow faultless, or some other country is somehow irredeemably evil. But it's also ridiculous to make some sort of universal moral equivalency. I don't blame all Germans for Hitler, but America wasn't just operating out of self-interest in going to war against him, either.

  • @tjhoenecke If you mean "literally identical", no of course not. Circumstances differ, zeitgeist differs from time to time, from culture to culture. But if we're talking about the general human condition, I'd say we are. No nationality is somehow inherently more (or less) liable to be selfless or selfish.

    Historically some nations have done more damage than others (whether through concentration camps or atomic bombs or segregation or whatever) but those differences are circumstantial.

  • @megamarsvin correction... i live in U.S.A . . . . .and were the worst XD we are the most fat and consumerist country of them all...not to mention most of us are empty minded fools who just do what there tolled and never question there leader or there limits and have no imagination to live off of at all....

  • @Bubwubster Haha I can understand why you'd say that certainly. Americans do like to go "all out" whatever they do, including corruption, greed and laziness.

    But I'd love to hear your opinion after taking a tour of one of my country's universities which are brimming with ineptitude and indifference or our parliament which is exactly the same. I think you'd see you're not as far ahead on the scale of incompetence as you think :D

  • @megamarsvin I dont know...the scale of corruption, idiots, and fucktards who think they own everything is high over here... but i guess i never know lol

  • @Bubwubster And clearly, we can't spell, either.

    Oh, wait.

  • "Judea Declares War On Germany! Jews of all the World Unite!" - London Daily Express Headline, March 24, 1933

    "Hitler will have no war but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon" - Emil Ludwig Cohn Les Annales, June, 1934 "The New Holy Alliance"

    "We Jews are going to bring a war On Germany." - David A. Brown, National Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934 (quote "I Testify Against The Jews" by Robert Edward Edmondson, pg 188 "The Jewish War of Survival" by Arnold Leese, pg 52

  • @StSimonMartyr wow that is crappy evidence you got thar

  • @megamarsvin Oh bullshit. US Shipping lanes were not threatened at all by the Nazis before America joined the war. In fact US IMMEDIATELY suffered huge loss to all their shipping as soon as Hitler declared war on the US as their U-boats now had free range to attack everything.

    PS: last time US got involved to "Save europe" was in the hellish waste of life in the Trenches of the 1st World War, only to be politically marginalised from peace negotiation.

  • @Treblaine We can argue about the details but the point remains. You even put "save Europe" in quotes yourself. I wasn't looking for a fight in fact I explicitly stated my comment wasn't meant as a slight against America.

    All I was trying to do is refute these morons that keep harping on about how the US joined WW2 to rescue the poor Europeans when of course that's nonsense. The US went to war because it was attacked and to protect its economic interests, just like any other sane nation would.

  • @megamarsvin You can say it wasn't a slight if you like. I can say "Fuck you, no offence" you still said "Fuck you".

    US Govt may have joined the war because of Hitler's decision to declare war post-Pearl Harbor, but America as a NATION had to find its own reasons for committing money and blood in a conflict they were unprepared for and had little to do with. The actual American Volunteer soldier had to find a reason to fight and die for something more than "economic interests".

  • @Treblaine It's only offensive if you don't understand what I was saying. I'm sure there were many heroic individuals that volunteered, same as in every country. But that's not what we were talking about.

    The US didn't get involved in the war until after Pearl Harbor. If the sole motivation was to save the poor Europeans, how come Germany had to declare war on the U.S., several years into the fight? It's not a slight because Europe let Poland fall too, we're no better.

  • @megamarsvin duur, because the US president is not a dictator, he can't declare war without the vote of the senate. And enough senators were afraid 2nd world war much like the 1st: they arrive late, suffer and get marginalised from negotiations making no real difference.

    It wasn't that "America decided against joining" they just failed to decide to join due to the indecision from their division of power.

    UK Prime Minister can declare war just as leader of ruling party.

  • and goose step on it. this would have been a funny short don't want to offend any one but Nazi's wear bad but nothing against Germans I like them :)

  • hitler is a nazi dick head

  • i remember that episode

    ZE NOT LE BOOBIES!!!!!

  • OK, NOW WHERE IS DEAD BART, HMMMM?

  • DED BORT

  • @BastionOfFinality DAD BERT

  • I am a German and I have done a vast study on hitler I even finished mein kompf but hitler was not all bad he did bring the nation out of a depression but he also ruined it lest we forget the lives lost on both factions I simply do this in honor of my great grandfather he died during world war two but still realized even as a Nazi how evil hitler was both respect and hate his name

    -great grandson of well I'm not going to tell u his name

  • @1124hondo "hitler was not all bad he did bring the nation out of a depression" and tried to resolve the problem of renewable energy with natural combustibles... fuck, hitler was only bad, the fact he brought the nation out of depression (I can admit if u say caused by france, and so it was not all the fault of germans for listening that idiot) is only a obvius collateral effect of ultra nationalism! Not all germans were bad, hitler yes

  • I believe Groening said on commentary once that he felt that at a certain point making all sorts of Hitler jokes and references could be sending off some sort of implication and that it wasn't something he wanted to be a part of. Basically I think he feared that they could be seen as the new 'Der Fuehrer's Face' as it were, something that bashed Hitler while seemingly subtly praising him.

  • @BrunnerJamFilms Groening was an idiot. 

  • DAS IST NICHT EINE BOOBIE!!

  • i counldnt ubrhearing the bomb sites

  • I hate hitler!

  • I love that The Simpsons has the balls to make fun of Hitler all the time

  • @Drac39 yeah who could ever get away with making fun of nazis- Oh wait, every fucking body because making fun of nazis is the safest thing you can possibly do and not even remotely cutting edge or ballsy.

  • @lebensraummetal They aren't made fun of nearly enough. They needed more comedians to point out how stupid the logic behind the Nazi ideology was back when it could have done some good

  • what did bart said?

  • : Eh?

  • I think Bart's lines were the bad part. Hes all in awe at seeing Hitler. then he says "Hitler is neato". the fuck was that about.

  • @A2Z83 He said "catching Hitler is neato".

  • I dont get it, doesn't Matt Groening voice Homer? if he didn't want hitler jokes why did this get made?

    its odd how this gets canned yet family guy can roam free and put hitler on a Uni-cycle juggling fish hahaha

  • No Matt does not voice homer.

  • It a fucking cartoon nothing more Matt Groening didn't want the writers to put Hitler jokes into the show Hitler is history WW2 is history get over it and stop this non sense let this clip be aired

  • @Hardcore555A Oh Yeah, Nazis weren't that bad. They only wanted to enslave the world under a facist dictatorship, round up everyone who didn't fit their idea of the "master race" and force them to work themselves to death. The holocaust wasn't even that terrible. I mean, only 12 million innocent civilians died needlessly.

  • This feels funnier than those bunch of Hitler references on Family Guy.

  • no wonder groening canned this. who cares about nazis, talk about boring!

  • No Hitler jokes, then why does the woman slap Homer say "you're worse than Hitler" when he takes the blame for the cigarettes in the DMV?

  • Yea and what about that time where Bart prank called an aged Hitler who was golfing in Argentina.

  • and the time he stole Hitlers car...

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  • That's a clip from a full length episode, not a clip matching this audio track.

  • "Ai caramba" Bart is so lol'able.

  • amazing how countries can turn on other countries, did you hear FDR ''NO HOMER THATS JOSEPH STALIN, AMERICAS' BEST FRIEND'' then the sad, long cold war.

  • HAHA Stalin

  • Nazi stuff is really uncouth and definately a faux pas, but I still kind of wish they would of made this short. It's not like the Nazis don't get insulted on a fairly regular basis already.

  • Pshhh, Nazis got funny just a few years before AIDs

  • This is from Burns Verkaufen Der Kraftwerk, isn't it?

  • Lol stalin

  • yeah the bobbie thing was out in the show hitler has been seen a few times!

  • "Zat ist not Ein Boobie!"

  • I wonder why Matt didn't want Hitler jokes in the show? That's very unlike Matt. Besides, there was loads of Hitler jokes in Season 4 & 5. I know he must have let them into the show sense he was Creative Consultiant and all. Maybe he didn't find this joke very funny? Know knows. I know that he had a fit when James L. Brooks when he did a "The Critic" Crossover on the Film Festival Episode. He called up Fox, Newspapers about it and tore his name off of both opening and closing credits.

  • i bet that was a dog asking him about his day at the plant.

    like in those old betty boop cartoons where humans and animals talk to each other.

  • Haha stalin.

  • GOLD! This is GENUINE Simpsons wit;

    "That's Joseph Stalin, America's Best Friend."

  • @ThinkPadSav

    Not for long is Stalin America's best friend.

  • I wish Groening didnt want to avoid Hitler jokes.. they're funny.

  • It's either this, or Family Guy's hundred Hitler/WWII references. At least this video has some wit.

  • lol

    "Ay Carumba, the Führer!"

  • o.O

  • rofl, you are hilarious

  • His talking about the date of WWII you idiot...

  • fuck you u donkey

  • Swine

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  • @graffartese2 HAHAHAHA! I'm sorry, but you're just so incredibly pathetic I can't decide whether to laugh or cry at you.

  • ajm u go to hell

  • Your jewish.

  • HAHAHAHAHA! GREAT COMMENT!

  • @graffartese2 they killed homosexuals....

  • @graffartese2 get fucked by a nigger

  • @graffartese2 you affraid they're going to hurt your black boyfriend queer?

  • @graffartese2 nazis and communists are the worst!!

  • @graffartese2 You want to screw homosexual Nazis while making homophobic comments? Hilarious.

  • @graffartese2 idiot

  • @memoryman83 no you are the idiot you fucking jewish slutbag!!!