I would love to teach something like this to my horse, but he is deathly afraid of cows...it is something we discovered as he got older (in his teens), and haven't had the chance to correct yet...maybe with one of the new babies....Tell me, in the drassage-like test, is troting required? I would love to see if my gaited horses would be up to the challenge of the lower levels of this sport?
@Calicat1994 with these people using the big pole, called a Garocha, they do not trot. They are using the pole to separate certain steers for penning. In Spain there is a competition for knocking a cow down with the pole, it is used as a test in the younger female cows for the breeding towards the brave bulls. If the cow does not jump up mad and try to fight back, she is sold for meat. Only the brave ones are kept for reproducing the traits of bravery. You dont want to trot, the pole may break.
elbomberse: I think all horses can be used for WE.But since the cow test is just 1 of 4 diciplines the horse must be able to do in Working Equitation, one must choose a horse that can do all.Also dressage, maneabiliy and speed test.See other videos of WE and see what I mean.
@elbomberse: quarter horses/cutting horses would have a great chance, but there is a big difference in cow cutting (for show) and what these horses do. They have to be even quicker than what is required for show cutting and have a much more "bravado" than is usually shown, in order to charge the cattle (which all keep their horns unlike cows used in America for cutting). Like lykkebianca said, they'd also have to excel in the other tests as well.
@elbomberse: Really the only thing needed for working equitation is the horse to be collected and light in the front end/mouth and carrying themselves. Lusitanos have a more natural tendency to do this, more so then other breeds. But all horses can excel at this and improve their confirmation by doing at least light collection self-carriage. This is the guiding principle of dressage and WE. I'd love to see other breeds do WE, even at lower levels.
where you at the show in Lisbon? I was there and I was sitting with one of the judges during the whole competition.
The english time withdraw from the cowtest since they thought it was too difficult for them with only three riders.( The forth horse was not alowed to continue after the dressagetest, where it showed lameness.)
Thank you! One more question do you have any idea of the thickness and the type of wood used? I am in the US and I have some poles I made up but I would like them to be as accurate as possible.
The pole is approx 2.80 m and is very thick and heavy. It is made from what you find in the forest that is hard enough, so it can be irregularly shaped,which makes it more difficult to catch a ring...:-)
When we are training here in Sweden we have made a pole from what we bought in a shop that you can buy in meters and we painted it black.
different leghts depending on the tradition of the country competing. i thin portugese and spanish are approx 2,5 - 3 meter and the french are shorter.
I would love to teach something like this to my horse, but he is deathly afraid of cows...it is something we discovered as he got older (in his teens), and haven't had the chance to correct yet...maybe with one of the new babies....Tell me, in the drassage-like test, is troting required? I would love to see if my gaited horses would be up to the challenge of the lower levels of this sport?
Calicat1994 1 year ago
@Calicat1994 with these people using the big pole, called a Garocha, they do not trot. They are using the pole to separate certain steers for penning. In Spain there is a competition for knocking a cow down with the pole, it is used as a test in the younger female cows for the breeding towards the brave bulls. If the cow does not jump up mad and try to fight back, she is sold for meat. Only the brave ones are kept for reproducing the traits of bravery. You dont want to trot, the pole may break.
bonnie448 9 months ago
Have you tried american quarter horse or cutting horses for this practice?
i am from mexico and is very interesting what this lusitano horses can do ,
Would this horses be better than other horses for charreria? or any other vaquero dicipline?
we use american quarter horse for all the charreria stuff some have tried the aztec horse but is not better than the cutting horse
elbomberse 3 years ago
elbomberse: I think all horses can be used for WE.But since the cow test is just 1 of 4 diciplines the horse must be able to do in Working Equitation, one must choose a horse that can do all.Also dressage, maneabiliy and speed test.See other videos of WE and see what I mean.
lykkebianca 3 years ago
@elbomberse: quarter horses/cutting horses would have a great chance, but there is a big difference in cow cutting (for show) and what these horses do. They have to be even quicker than what is required for show cutting and have a much more "bravado" than is usually shown, in order to charge the cattle (which all keep their horns unlike cows used in America for cutting). Like lykkebianca said, they'd also have to excel in the other tests as well.
Vega lusitanos differ from other lines too
fireofinfinity 1 year ago
@elbomberse: Really the only thing needed for working equitation is the horse to be collected and light in the front end/mouth and carrying themselves. Lusitanos have a more natural tendency to do this, more so then other breeds. But all horses can excel at this and improve their confirmation by doing at least light collection self-carriage. This is the guiding principle of dressage and WE. I'd love to see other breeds do WE, even at lower levels.
fireofinfinity 1 year ago
Veigaluso - Please note that you are referring to the BRITISH team. Britain includes more than just ENGLAND. Rant over.
Storm288 4 years ago
Lykkebianca;
where you at the show in Lisbon? I was there and I was sitting with one of the judges during the whole competition.
The english time withdraw from the cowtest since they thought it was too difficult for them with only three riders.( The forth horse was not alowed to continue after the dressagetest, where it showed lameness.)
/ Maria
Veigaluso 4 years ago
hello maria.
no I was not at this competition. It is too bad the cow test is not in Golega. I dont know why that is.
lykkebianca 4 years ago
So you are online:-)!
Are you going to england next weekend?
Veigaluso 4 years ago
yes and no. I am going to golega during tha fair. i was in portugal 1 month ago and have no money to go again.
Is the championships held now?
lykkebianca 4 years ago
The european championships are beeing held this weekend 31st of august and 1st of september.
Unfortunately-no cowtest, due to the mouth and foot diseaserestrictions in england.
I´m leaving tomorrow and we bring the filmcamera, so we will add some films as soon as we are back!
/ Maria
Veigaluso 4 years ago
no i dont. but try to write to joao lynce (you can google him). he is the portugese master.
lykkebianca 4 years ago
Thank you! One more question do you have any idea of the thickness and the type of wood used? I am in the US and I have some poles I made up but I would like them to be as accurate as possible.
Sincerely,
Riz
coolhorse1313 4 years ago
The pole is approx 2.80 m and is very thick and heavy. It is made from what you find in the forest that is hard enough, so it can be irregularly shaped,which makes it more difficult to catch a ring...:-)
When we are training here in Sweden we have made a pole from what we bought in a shop that you can buy in meters and we painted it black.
Best regards,
Maria/ Veigaluso
Veigaluso 4 years ago
How long are the poles?
coolhorse1313 4 years ago
different leghts depending on the tradition of the country competing. i thin portugese and spanish are approx 2,5 - 3 meter and the french are shorter.
lykkebianca 4 years ago