@chizzadbc HELLO YOU START BY LEARNING THE FIRST TWO MOVEMENTS,FOR A FEW MONTHS,AS YOU WANT TO GET YOUR BREATHING AND BODY RELAXED...START OF DOING IT TO VIDEO,THEN BUILDING IT UP TO TWENTY ,LIGHT INCENSE OR MUSIC SO YOU KNOW WHEN TO FINISH...HOPE THIS HELPED MARK
This is a great exercise and helped me create a foundation for my martial arts in the 29 years that I was involved in law enforcement. Excellent video.
Yes, I am sure that some people benefit from this exercise. It is like there cigarette smokers that lived a long life.
I just like to warn people that Standing exercise is not harmless as it appear. Correct standing exercise is not actually standing, it just appeared to be standing and internal muscles are actually vigorously exercised, and I don't mean just by rotating the outside muscle.
@pchow2ca what you were doing wrong is letting knees slip past your toes. As a kinesiologist I can tell you that if you knee(s) is(are) in front of your toes at any point, the gravity will apply the weight of your body onto your knee JOINT ITSELF, not muscles that are supposed to support it, since the muscles of your legs would be off balanced. That will DESTROY your knees over time. Bad knees = bad hamstrings = no complete support for your back from your core = bad back. Sorry mate.
@Valholm Hey Valholm, thanks for your comment! Very helpful. I only have one question. Did you see the day 1 zhan zhuang, where Master Lam was doing the knee warmup exercise, doesn't it look like he was letting his knees pass his toes? Maybe that is just my impression... Comment, pls? Ty.
@Helllocutiepie well, there are different schools of thought, regarding the whole "knee past toes" thing. My position is that the old school general idea that "letting knees go past the toes puts stress on the joint and ligaments" is true, but stress is not necessarily bad. Bad begins when you exert too much stress on the joint and it doesn't have enough time or energy to recover. Then it starts to deteriorate, and you pretty much made things much worse.
@Valholm "Bad begins when you exert too much stress on the joint and it doesn't have enough time or energy to recover. "
Ok the correct way to say this would be "Bad begins when you exert stress on the joint, but it doesn't have enough time or energy to recover." If you exert too much stress on the joint, you pretty much lost already.
@Helllocutiepie If you have noticed, a lot of hardcore exercises (pistol squats) or martial arts forms have tons of motions with knees past the toes. That will actually make healthy knees even stronger, if the proper amount of rest and NUTRITION is administered and the connective tissue is allowed to recover. It takes longer to recover than muscle tissue, though. How much longer? Depends on the how conditioned the athlete is.
@Helllocutiepie So my point is that some exercises with knees going past toes, like that warmup, are pretty harmless, unless your knees are really fucked up. Some advanced exercises allow knees go past toes, but the advanced athlete performing them has worked up to the level (hopefully) where it is sensible to push your knees that far. And there are other exercises where your knees should never "cross the line", because it's just a suicide mission. And with ZZ I think it is a suicide mission.
@pchow2ca what you need to remember about the zhan zhuang is that it is an exercise and any exercise done improperly will destroy your body. Also make sure that you give yourself time to recover, as with any exercise. You saying that ZZ destroyed your knees and back is like me saying that push ups destroyed my shooulders and elbows. You know? Push ups are still "Good".
Warning, I practice this exercise for many years and finally understand it. It is extremely harmful to the lower back and kneecap. I personally knew the teacher who made this exercise famous, as I look back, his health was not healthy at all and had problem walking distances.
I have practiced Zhan Zhuang for many years also, but it has made me much stronger. I do not have trouble walking and my Taiji has improved tremendously making me much more rooted.
I am afraid you were doing it wrong if you had knee and lower back problems. That is very possible doing it incorrectly.
There are many older Masters in China who do this and have no problems whatsoever, in fact they perform incredible displays of internal energy.
A bit strange for a Westerner to understand at first. It has to sink it. I see a lot of wisdom in this exercise but you just need to do it and believe it.
I started doing Zhan Zhuanh 11 years ago. This is really a treasure. As a martial artist this makes the difference in your hitting power, you also heal faster from your injuries and will be more aware of what's happening during a fight. For the common person it will make you healthier and more calm.
how long should one hold each pose for in order to achieve a good session for each day?
chizzadbc 2 months ago
@chizzadbc HELLO YOU START BY LEARNING THE FIRST TWO MOVEMENTS,FOR A FEW MONTHS,AS YOU WANT TO GET YOUR BREATHING AND BODY RELAXED...START OF DOING IT TO VIDEO,THEN BUILDING IT UP TO TWENTY ,LIGHT INCENSE OR MUSIC SO YOU KNOW WHEN TO FINISH...HOPE THIS HELPED MARK
weemarky 2 months ago in playlist Zhan Zhuang
I can't understand why this is no longer available -- in fact I don't think it was ever on DVD
fourplusseven 6 months ago in playlist Lam Kam Chuen
This is a great exercise and helped me create a foundation for my martial arts in the 29 years that I was involved in law enforcement. Excellent video.
goibhniu13 10 months ago
Yes, I am sure that some people benefit from this exercise. It is like there cigarette smokers that lived a long life.
I just like to warn people that Standing exercise is not harmless as it appear. Correct standing exercise is not actually standing, it just appeared to be standing and internal muscles are actually vigorously exercised, and I don't mean just by rotating the outside muscle.
pchow2ca 11 months ago
@pchow2ca what you were doing wrong is letting knees slip past your toes. As a kinesiologist I can tell you that if you knee(s) is(are) in front of your toes at any point, the gravity will apply the weight of your body onto your knee JOINT ITSELF, not muscles that are supposed to support it, since the muscles of your legs would be off balanced. That will DESTROY your knees over time. Bad knees = bad hamstrings = no complete support for your back from your core = bad back. Sorry mate.
Valholm 9 months ago
@Valholm Hey Valholm, thanks for your comment! Very helpful. I only have one question. Did you see the day 1 zhan zhuang, where Master Lam was doing the knee warmup exercise, doesn't it look like he was letting his knees pass his toes? Maybe that is just my impression... Comment, pls? Ty.
Helllocutiepie 8 months ago
@Helllocutiepie well, there are different schools of thought, regarding the whole "knee past toes" thing. My position is that the old school general idea that "letting knees go past the toes puts stress on the joint and ligaments" is true, but stress is not necessarily bad. Bad begins when you exert too much stress on the joint and it doesn't have enough time or energy to recover. Then it starts to deteriorate, and you pretty much made things much worse.
Valholm 8 months ago
@Valholm "Bad begins when you exert too much stress on the joint and it doesn't have enough time or energy to recover. "
Ok the correct way to say this would be "Bad begins when you exert stress on the joint, but it doesn't have enough time or energy to recover." If you exert too much stress on the joint, you pretty much lost already.
Valholm 8 months ago
@Helllocutiepie If you have noticed, a lot of hardcore exercises (pistol squats) or martial arts forms have tons of motions with knees past the toes. That will actually make healthy knees even stronger, if the proper amount of rest and NUTRITION is administered and the connective tissue is allowed to recover. It takes longer to recover than muscle tissue, though. How much longer? Depends on the how conditioned the athlete is.
Valholm 8 months ago
@Helllocutiepie So my point is that some exercises with knees going past toes, like that warmup, are pretty harmless, unless your knees are really fucked up. Some advanced exercises allow knees go past toes, but the advanced athlete performing them has worked up to the level (hopefully) where it is sensible to push your knees that far. And there are other exercises where your knees should never "cross the line", because it's just a suicide mission. And with ZZ I think it is a suicide mission.
Valholm 8 months ago
@pchow2ca what you need to remember about the zhan zhuang is that it is an exercise and any exercise done improperly will destroy your body. Also make sure that you give yourself time to recover, as with any exercise. You saying that ZZ destroyed your knees and back is like me saying that push ups destroyed my shooulders and elbows. You know? Push ups are still "Good".
Valholm 9 months ago
Warning, I practice this exercise for many years and finally understand it. It is extremely harmful to the lower back and kneecap. I personally knew the teacher who made this exercise famous, as I look back, his health was not healthy at all and had problem walking distances.
pchow2ca 1 year ago
@pchow2ca
I have practiced Zhan Zhuang for many years also, but it has made me much stronger. I do not have trouble walking and my Taiji has improved tremendously making me much more rooted.
I am afraid you were doing it wrong if you had knee and lower back problems. That is very possible doing it incorrectly.
There are many older Masters in China who do this and have no problems whatsoever, in fact they perform incredible displays of internal energy.
taijispirit1 11 months ago 2
Great video thank you so much very genuine
TheTweak0r 1 year ago
A bit strange for a Westerner to understand at first. It has to sink it. I see a lot of wisdom in this exercise but you just need to do it and believe it.
anituchka 1 year ago
I started doing Zhan Zhuanh 11 years ago. This is really a treasure. As a martial artist this makes the difference in your hitting power, you also heal faster from your injuries and will be more aware of what's happening during a fight. For the common person it will make you healthier and more calm.
silversnow2008 1 year ago
great
diego99989 1 year ago
That's a great tip at 10:20 - waiting is not waiting anymore! It's doing, or is that not doing?
'Do nothing and everything is done' Great!
joedanceflaw 2 years ago
thank you very much master
SuperHammer2008 2 years ago
thanks for uploading
blazzincrew2323 2 years ago