@juliotheboss it's cuz of their publicity. If Tech, Krs-1, and Buckshot were mainstream trust me they would be killin it but they're to good for that whak ass shit
I'm just an unselfish person genuinely trying to help and speaking on the current state of our world. If I'm not part of the solution, I'm part of the problem. This is as real as it gets and if you happen to disagree, that is completely fine. We all have our own brains and can form our own ideas and express them freely :] If you do agree feel free to share/spread. It has nothing to do with me-no ulterior motives, rather just a message, a reminder :]
y does krs-one always tlk so slow lethargically annunciating everything... i know ima hater but it took dis dumbass 10yrs. to find out record companies fuck u over and he said himself he thinks lil wayne is beast.. wtf idc how long u been in the game.. fucking retarded..
@ParZero13 If your a hater then automatically your ignorant. If your ignorant, then your opinion doesn't matter. Why? Because a hater chooses to not see or better yet avoids the truth. And even if he sees it he won't like it and he'll just say fuc this guy and everything that he does is stupid.
I don't like wayne. If kids like him, what ever, let them listen to it. But I won't cuz I know wats dope and you won't find it in the media, Thy underground lets you say wat u want.
@ParZero13 hahaha i get you dawg niggaz might get mad but you got a point krs one lost to nelly cuz of that i respect that he's been in tha game for a long ass time but that wuz retarded
You say Hannah Montana-i fucking punch you in the face
92% of teenagers have turned to New school and Pop.If you are part of the 8% that still listen to real music,copy and paste this message to another 5 videos.
sad how you guys are argueing over the internet... i whould have thought if u knew who immortal technique and KRS are... you whould be clever enough to realise how pointless and stupid both of you are and how no one cares about ure opinions or views. and if u feel the need to maintain some form of keyboard warrior mentality that you must have a penis on the end of ure nose do something creative like go hate on justin bieber bunch of sad faced clowns
so its would seem like people are agreeing with you haha, but a college education could end all this argument, something alots of people that view the "true hip hop" videos lack hahaha its simply true many people who like this music are uneducated. go to college and stop arguing bout shit you know nothing about, deathsfav1 was right you guys are just too stupid to comprehend
lol i had to go back and read this whole argument that was going on between deaths and jdbankshot and jry17 just cause it seemed interesting, and death is right on everything, it takes longer to develop something needed in an environment, than it takes for someone to lose something unneeded in environment via evolution. and bankshot your fucking dumb bro haha looks like you thumbed up your own comments haha thats why they all have 4 or 5 thumbs up cuz you have that many accounts, or made em
@KeepinITreal37 if it takes longer to develop than lose and black people needed to develop lighter skin to produce vitamin d you just help my arguement. and as for it taking longer to go white than to go black you all keep saying that but have shown no evidence to support it not even a similar case. also talk about time and evolution you think all the evolutions we have took only 2.5 mil years?
@KeepinITreal37 also gaining something needed and disposing of uneeded through evolution is the same process they are simply converse of each other. thats like saying it takes longer to walk a mile east than a mile west. i.e. humans have been in controlled climates for 100,000's years now yet we still have body,facial,etc. hair which was used for insulation at the primitive stages of life. explain?
is massively pissed & DISAPPOINTED @ the sheer amount of posts happening on this page by people claiming to 'teach' or 'advise' others WHEN THEY DO IT IN AN INSULTING FASHION TOWARDS OTHERS!!! IF U WANT TO TEACH OR ADVISE SOMEONE OF SOMETHING PERHAPS U SHOULD CONSIDER DOING IT IN A POLITE FASHION. NOT STARTING WITH AN INSULT IS A GOOD WAY TO DO THIS. AS THE SAYING GOES "U ATTRACT MORE FLIES WITH HONEY!" IF U R JUST HERE TO INSULT OTHERS I SUGGEST U GO FUCK YOURSELF FROM EVERY DIRECTION. ONE
Yo, Immortal...enjoy your status. I'm a fan, even tho your politics are pathetic. But still...wonder why some fucktard like buckshot gets a video intro, and you're a footnote? Your own little racial-clique kids abandoned you. They don't take you seriously. That's why a frightening majority of your fanbase consists of honkies.
@twiznatch by callin shot a fucktard, u discredit yrself immediately. these honkies u speak of , quite a few of them , oh, say, multi-millions worldwide, seem to be creatin & supportin tru boom bap shit. also, abandoners most likely weren't tru homies to start with. youse a smelly cunt, go find dmx.
krs one dr seuss rhymed the this whole album, i didnt like most of his verses , so repetitive in most of the songs , was kinda wack i gotta admit , was hoping for a better album when i bought it ,, eghh...
this whole era was rushed into...now time is catching up with it. A lotta frauds will be exposed and have to cry "haters". This is REAL hip hop. You can't BUY the label "real" or "hip hop"...you earn it.
Homophobe is being scared of gay people. or "put off" by them and i am none of the above. Just because a guy is not gay does not make him a homophobe. I would advise you to look at the dictionary.
@DeathsFavorite1 I would advise u to get off this page and stop 'advising' people. At least in the way u have been doing this. U gotta admit u been puttin the time in, arguing the toss (a lot!) with people u don't even know, about things u can do f all about. Or at least, not usin these methods! As i've said b4 this page seems to be attracting that for some strange reason. Why can't ya'l do this in a positive way???? Or plain look at the page then piss off to look at another one like most peeps.
@DeathsFavorite1 OMFG! GET A LIFE. FUCK OFF. AND ARGUE SOMEWHERE ELSE. WITH SOMEONE ELSE. MAYBE SOMEWHERE WHERE U CAN GET ARRESTED. THEN WE CAN ALL HAVE SOME FUCKING PEACE. I'M QUITE HAPPY TO JUST LEAVE SHIT. SEEMS U HAVE TO ARGUE WITH EVERY POOR FUCKER WHO POSTS ANYTHING WHATSOEVER TO THIS PAGE. HAVE A LOOK AT *YOUR SHIT* B4 U COMMENT *THAT WAY* ABOUT THE POSTS OF OTHERS. U TAKEN OVER THE WHOLE PAGE 4 FUCKSAKE D.A.! THEN WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAME HERE TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE - APPRECIATE HIP HOP.
@johnjnukemsheridan You commented to me dumb ass. If you would have shut your stupid ass mouth we would not be writing. Its called cause and effect dumb ass.
@DeathsFavorite1 Erm, yeah cos u commented to me ages ago. I just took awhile to decide if i could be arsed to respond. Not surprised ur confused tho considerin the amount of people u b givin shit to. Just let it go dopey!
this is universe if u like real hip hop and rappers that speak wit a purpose and still keep it lyrical u should listen to my song called off earth its on my page with a few other songs that our off my album called THE BEGINNING, rap was born in the streets then it went mainstream now im takin it to the depths of the universe subscribe and show support for underground rappers
Griots were people you moron. SOME did live in the street.
You know nothing about african history you dumb ass. I do find it funny when white people think they are about to tell us about our history though. Its a damn shame.
@DeathsFavorite1 i said, " griots lived in the streets", refering to them as people. i thought i had made that obvious. IN OTHER WORDS, I HAVE KNOWN WHO & WHAT GRIOTS ARE SINCE 1986, WHEN I WAS 11!!!!!!!!!!! YOU are the moron & dumb ass!!!!!!!!!!! think a person needs to know the entire history of the entire continent of africa to be a tru hip hop hed????? AS IF I WAS TRYIN TO TELL U "YOUR" HISTORY. very simple... someone said, hip hop is from the streets, u said,no,griots. griots=streets,duh
@DeathsFavorite1 if i know nothing bout frican hist, what does that tell u bout our education? i'd ask u to name ten frican capital cities, but you'd goog it first. TRUST ME, FAGGOT, I'M THE LAST PERSON ON EARTH U WANNA TAKE ON WHEN IT COMES TO HIP HOP!!!!!!!!!!!! u into history, stick with national geographic.
no, you are the moron. Griots do not = streets you moron and that is a god awful analogy of it.
and obviously if you are speaking about history no i assure you i am the last person you want to debate as is obvious you know nothing about the griots though you try to pretend really hard.
Griots have nothing to do with the "whole continent of africa" as you stupidly said.
Nothing ever changes. white people assume to know something and know shit.
@DeathsFavorite1 i never thought i'd encounter a person( & I use that word loosely because you barely qualify as a person, that's obvious from your comments ) quite as messed up as yourself. you can't even form a proper sentence. very simple, dipshit..... someone left a comment sayin hip hop was from the streets. YOU SAID,"NO".reciting poetry in a rhythmic manner may have originated on the continent of africa, but HIP HOP WAS BORN ON THE STREETS OF AMERICA, U CUNT!! this ain't bout white, BIGOT!
@DeathsFavorite1 why am i even responding to you if you couldn't even understand my previous comments??? by the way, i'm a redman.... native american.... so , u , DO NOT TALK TO ME ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!!!! u r so fuckin pathetic!!!!!!!!!!
@DeathsFavorite1 i've re-read my comments as well as yours. it is obvious that you are entirely devoid of intelligence. someone shoulda wacked your pops before he had a chance to jizz in that whore you call mama. checkmate, SON!!!
checkmate and you havent even said shit? funny still you try to speak on structuring correct sentences and yours is shit. Dont make a difference if your native or White all the same you dont know shit about our culture as you proved. I said it CAME from the conitnent of africa but no where did i say it WAS the continent of africa and hat you said was
" enitre history of the entire continent of africa " which is not what i said you in-comprehensive twit.
and btw i aint ya son son. If you knew ANYTHING about who was on this earth first your dumb ass would know we are YOUR parents dumbass.
You know nothing of history or genetics.
and btw hip hop comes from what? Rap! which comes from what? Griots! who come from where? AFRICA. which makes them what? AFRICAN. Imitators are imitators and thats all you all will ever be. Pale imitations.
And i can talk to you about whatever the hell i please. Grow a pair
Those are tribes NOT clans. Anyone within a Native family should know these because they are very important. My last comment said nothing more then you are lying about being native lol.
I also said you can not speak on anyones grammar skills. Believe me you are not picture of perfection.
@DeathsFavorite1 you are very boring. not that i have anything to prove to you or anyone else, but, here goes.... i didn't grow up on a rez(reservation, or, the common term for stolen land "resereved" for us by the government). my pops was born of a half native, half scottish father & fully iroquois mother. my moms was born of a fully iroquois father & half mohawk, half scottish mother. the canadian susquahanna iroquois & scottish redshanks. that's my heritage, along with run-dmc, p.e., b.d.p...
@DeathsFavorite1 as far as my heritage goes, i could always scalp you nice and quick just to demonstrate one aspect..... but, i'm a nice guy. what does it matter, anyway? i wanted to peep imm tech & kris & bshot. that's all. the content of melanin in one's bloodstream has no implication whatsoever in determining their potential in any field, especially music. potential for talent & creativity, not just commercial success. but addressing you is like talking to a puddle of mud.
You are a dumb fool because i did not say others could not copy us (because society copies us anyway hahaha) I said yall need to stop stealing shit. And no it has nothing to do with melanin but genetics. Genetics which is proven to affect many things aside from melanin content. There is a reason We are the fastest things on two legs the world has ever seen. Its genetic. We are the best dancers in the world and we come from everywhere. GENETICS.
@DeathsFavorite1 very simply, not only am i not racist, i am anti-racist. you seem to think that i'm some anti-black, neo-nazi, which is my complete opposite. if you are arguing for the superiority of the black race in certain areas, ok, go ahead, i don]t really care. i was here to peep some ill shit. u can call me white til you're blue in the face, fact remains i'm majority iroquois with some scottish bloodlines, therefore i'm not white. sorry. if a 75% native person steals, it's not my doing.
@DeathsFavorite1 im pretty sure ostriches are faster than any human being whether he be white black yellow red brown or any skin tone also how do your genetics account for the fact if two families of "genetically" white descent move to anywhere with a high concentration of u.v. radiation stay for generations i mean multiple, and inter marry with only each other their descendants will develop brown to "black" skin
That is a simple answer..Genetics does indeed explain...and though i would call you a moron i do realize the school systems are crap. White families, asians, mexican, natives does not really matter. You see there was one race to start the human race and that race is Africans. Africans have every genetic marker where as other races have some here or there. That is because you people came from us.
@DeathsFavorite1 intermarriage between the same gene pool does infact create health disabilities look at the DuPonts but if everyone stemed from group of african heritage than we would all still be inter marrying in the same gene pool
@DeathsFavorite1 also A 2006 study provides evidence that the light skin pigmentation observed in Europeans and East Asians arose independently. They concluded that light pigmentation in Europeans is at least partially due to the effects of positive directional and/or sexual selection. while i know your referencing the oldest human remains found in africa assumes there was one race to start but dont you think its more likely with all human differences that races were started in sep. areas at
@JRY17 you said what i just said about intermarriage and mental/physical defects. No where did i claim that was not the point. Listen, if you can not comprehend then you are going to have to be silent friend.
And no, the findings show that the oldest (yes as you said) started in africa. FROM africa however we see things gradually get younger meaning there was indeed migration. You theory has been on the board but it had no weight. SO it was dropped due to lack of evidence.
@DeathsFavorite1 first off i was agreeing with you about intermarriage if you can't comprehend written text i dont believe you need to be claiming superiority over an elusive field such as genetics. if you were so adept as you claimn you would have said how about 2 of the many skinm tone causing genes have been identified to do so. also by your words if they all started from one in africa that woiuld still cause a group inter producing
@DeathsFavorite1 also im not an expert on the study i cited but i doubt a scholarly community has decided three years was enough time to thoroughly refute and debunk all the evidence which said study presented. and yes the oldest human remains were found in africa but that doesn't mean that they are the oldest left on earth or were in fact the first people to have lived. is it probable, sure. i just think based on how long the evolutionary process is stated to take
@DeathsFavorite1 that groups, societies, herds w.e. you choose to call them were established at the same or within the century of each other. Genetisists have stated they can trace the gene pool back around 270,000 years in all peoples before reaching a common genome(?). if thats true and evolution is true how do we account for the mass diversity in tone(age) (irish white, german white, american white, mexican, s. american, pac. islnds, n asian, mylasian, italian, n & s african) all have minute
@DeathsFavorite1 differences in their skin tones. also another wrench into the assumption of a first race in a post pangea world. back to the dates and time frames, it's said humans evolved from chimps about 7 mil. years ago. it is also said homo sapiens stemming from a worldwide migration of homo erectus from africa 2.5 mil. years ago. are you saying people we describe as cave dwellers were really sea faring peoples and basically conquered the known world.
@DeathsFavorite1 or are you saying they migrated through the land while it was still connected in its extreme historical form pangea? which started hundeds of mil. years ago and about 50 mil years ago places africa almost dead in its current spot.
Not really..not it is not. Out of all the unique genetic patterns that different races have ONE race has all of them and they are displayed at a common. The varying skin tone is a very simple one and one can see how it occurs/erd by simply looking at a map so i do not feel i should have to get into that aspect. As far as you agreeing with me...you did it completely wrong. You see what i did was acknowledged what you said by including it in a "()" which lets the reader know what i did.
@DeathsFavorite1 actually you never put anything i said in parentheses so that's a fail. "The varying skin tone is a very simple one and one can see how it occurs/erd by simply looking at a map so i do not feel i should have to get into that aspect." "Now whites intermarriage(or anyone for that matter) will not cause darker skin no matter where they are" two conflicting ideas stated by the same misinformed(?) person
@DeathsFavorite1 explain how a group of one descent can migrate and populate the world and change their tone to lighter, why could a light race not do the same thing and grow darker. also isnt it true that few of the genes actually responsible for determining skn tone have yet to be indentified? you still didnt try to explain how they would have migrated to areas where they would be able to change their skin tone, how do you propose that happened?
And there will always be someone trying to bring up a new theory. This however is a good thing because IF it is wrong then we will get the correct answer. But as i have stated genetics and findings all point to africans being the first. What do you have a problem with that? LoL. well i'm sorry but thats the way things are.
@DeathsFavorite1 and before you think this is a racial thing re-read my comments i dont believe any race was here first based on the simple logistics of the time evolution requires to transpire the amount of genetic differences could not have developed in the time alotted if there was one "starter" race. there are 4 basic skull structures over 10 distinct skin tones, over 30 distinct facial features. one base is unlikely to produce so much offspring.
Hahaha It does not matter what you "believe" because you see i am going with what the people with degrees in the field say. Something that is a known fact is it is impossible to know everything about something. We can get a good understanding but knowing all is impossible.
As far as how a group of people populated the earth and you saying its not possible is absolutely crazy. Humans are not the only ones who have done this. Many animals have.
@DeathsFavorite1 weel sir you have just lost yourself the arguement yes animals have been found in each geographic area providing evidence of pangea but seeing as humans evolved around 4 million years ago and pangea created vast mileage of ocean about 50 mil. years ago unless the ancient africans of 3 mil. years ago werre better sea faring people than early south americans who have been historically documented as reaching africa first of all other countries. i dont think so.
same species different traits is very normal and common. When people speak about species they can always say who and where they came from. Everything has a place of origin. If you hate the idea of human race coming from Africans go to school get a degree and try to change. But you will not be the first or last who has tried in vain. This is simply one being in denial. As far as HOW they moved about, they had feet & boats which is enough.
@DeathsFavorite1 "As far as skin tone is concerned i think you have not done any studying on that. In africa alone there is many skin tones." i've already said this once now you're repeating me the differences in skin tone is because of the amount of UV radiation that slips past the atmosphere in a given geographical location. and if africans migrated and sparked the world's pop. why is their culture not adopted until well later in human history
@DeathsFavorite1 first word should be well(stupid keyboard)2nd you say the same arguement about multiple skintones across the world as i do. only you acredit them to de-colorization while completely ruling out the possibilty of darkening while i assume it could happen both ways simultaneously not one or the other as you like to assume it has to happen. 3 same species dif. traits does happen in nature a lot but would you say fish all stem from one genetic marker that then spawned tuna, bass,
Well that is because people losing color has more push behind it then vice versa.
As i said the oldest people in the world are african. The remains that are found DOES show movement out of africa. If you are of white it will take many many many yrs to acquire the skin of africans. Even then it is impossible because different races are mutations and off shoots of the original (says genetics). This means there is a strong possibility they lack the genes to revert due to mutation.
And going back momentarily about what i said about how long it would take (If it were possible) the time that would take to occur is more then what has been granted to humans on the earth. This is why that theory of Gaining color does not hold up. Many versions of your theory has been brought up but none make that much sense in the Grand Scheme of things.
@DeathsFavorite1 and how does your logic justify the accusation it takes longer to darken than to lighten. that is an irrational thought the two are scientifically converse of each other saying one would take longer has no real merit except for in bigotry and idiocy.
I have been very nice with the insults so if i were you i would watch where i put my feet.
Yes it would take longer to darken and i did give you the genetic reason why. Seeing as how it went over your head i will try to say it in a more dumbed down form. Every rce that came after Africans is said to be a mutation. this means the genes changed and was NO longer the same as the parents.
@JRY17 that being said One would not simply "darken". It takes a long time for changes like that to occur.
All africans are not super dark but vary in melanin. These changes obviously were to fit the environment and was natural to the first people fitting into their original environment. Mutations occurred and when mutations occurred that means there is NO such thing as going BACK.
@DeathsFavorite1 you keep talking about melanin and thats a point i brought up awhile ago when you were talking about genes being the main cause for skin tone make up your mind and stick with it. also i never said all africans were dark where did you get that nonsense i cited earlier the differences in tones between north south and mid africans. what are you talking about going back for no ones talking about anything like that it is an illogical arguement.
Wooww are you that stupid? GENES CONTROL MELANIN. That means regardless if i speak of it as genes or melanin it is all the same. I have not restated a assumption i have said what is accepted just about everywhere. It is simply you not wanting to admit it. BUT thus far everything you have said i have given a reason why it is not possible. You just dont want to admit it but regardless fact is fact. Skin DID start as black. Africans are the ONLY group with EVERY genetic marker known to man
@DeathsFavorite1 melanin is not a gene its an amino acid and strings of amino acids make genes. melanin is an amino acid in the gene that produces a skin tone and if generations of your bloodline come from high uv areas naturalistic preventive measures will be taken and the child will be born with an early activation of its melanin. fact is if you take a group of europeans to africa thru generations they would end as dark as locals with european features.
" melanin is not a gene its an amino acid and strings of amino acids make genes."
LOL are you that stupid?
If i say its in genes and you say it is IN what makes genes then what do you think that means? ITS IN GENES. please try to keep up because i am moving at a snails pace here. Genetics is what tells ones body how to form this is how when white people get together they have a WHITE baby. Its IN the genes. I think it sad i had to explain middle school science just now.
@DeathsFavorite1 no you said melanin was a gene i said it is a part of a gene you said it was the whole so you can keep trying to alter your arguement as you go to reflect what you meant but as far as what you typed you said it was a gene never before now did you say it was only a section of the gene.
@DeathsFavorite1 "One factor is the fact that one who is born with melanin HAS it." to most people this would sound as though youre saying some people aren't born with it and dont have it. if thats not what you meant try to be clearer after all you are trying to have a scholarly debate and its incidents like that and your lack luster explanation of melanin that dissuade me from your arguements.
" to most people this would sound as though youre saying some people aren't born with it and dont have it."
That does not matter what it sounds like. The fact is what you said was slander because i never said other people do not have it. That was you throwing words in my mouth.
" if thats not what you meant try to be clearer"
No i was perfectly clear and said what i meant. You messed up so dont throw blame for your screw up. I did not tell you to implicate anything.
PAY ATTENTION. I said once the genes have mutated ie white people they can NOT revert back to what they were. THAT is EXACTLY what i SAID. AND it is indisputable because its TRUE.
@DeathsFavorite1 no matter what your saying now you still said it takes longer via evolution to lose traits than to gain them well the africans living in high uv filled africa developed high concentrations of melanin if they moved to places like england they would have had to decrease production of melanin to allow their bodies to absorb the low amounts of uv and continue producing vitamin b.
" also you are saying it would take longer to turn black because you are still assuming they started black turned white "
There is NO assuming i KNOW it. There are few scientist who say other wise AND thought sane. YOU are in a minority and have no grounds for your view on the opposite.
@DeathsFavorite1 a. you dont know anything in this world except that you can never truly understand anything. b. unlike you i know and accept the possibilty im wrong what your saying wouldnt be the unversal accepted if there werent good basis for it but just because something fits good doesnt mean its the right answer and their are holes in the idea and for any race to think they started the world is a juvenile and arrogant thought
@DeathsFavorite1 a. its holes not wholes. and all the errors in the single race theory have not been answered such as the lack of physical proof africans migrated from africa to spawn civilization. no african farming techniques spread throughout the world no african architecture except for pyramids and since all pyramids have not been carbon-dated you can put your african pyramids came out first arguement back on the shelf
@JRY17 " no african farming techniques spread throughout the world no african architecture except for pyramids and since all pyramids have not been carbon-dated you can put your african pyramids came out first arguement back on the shelf"
Wow a whole racist Argument right there. Links will answer them all as well.
" its holes not wholes." Let me stop you there. I could point out a lot of spelling errors of yours so it would behoove you not to try to trip over spelling. and this has nothing to do with the topic at hand so stop trying to change the subject.
"such as the lack of physical proof africans migrated from africa to spawn civilization."
@DeathsFavorite1 also it wasn't until recently in the scheme of time that african culture has spread to gain world wide hold. so if they started the world y'd it take so long for the rest of us to bite off them? also if ur right and all humans did start from africa that means a small group in africa populated the world leading us all back to being intertwined inbreds stemming from a group of few who intermarried to populate the world.
" also it wasn't until recently in the scheme of time that african culture has spread to gain world wide hold."
Wrong again there are many dances that have been linked to african tribal dance. Many traditions as well. Just because people forgot where they came from does not make it any less true.
" did start from africa that means a small group in africa populated the world leading us all back to being intertwined inbreds"
@DeathsFavorite1 and you clearly missed my point about one race trying to lay claim. as a white i have seen and anyone with eyes should see how your race is reflected when a group tries to claim superiority over another life you look like a supremist asshole. im saying at least 2 or 3 jump off points for earthly life were here which aside from saying it just happend is the most logical way to account for the numerous differences amongst human beings.
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armargedon10 4 weeks ago
Krs sounds kinda white to me.
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mohassin1 9 months ago
16 PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE SURVIVAL SKILLS
CANSRONES 9 months ago
Hip hop use to be an art, NOT a disgrace. I learned this from KRS-ONE and these boys.
SunnyLovetts 9 months ago 2
what track was buck shot spitting to !?
Ja1Mac 9 months ago
0:37 Buckshot is baked as hell !
pozzog 10 months ago
Anyone know this song krs one come on my channel please
Anyone know this song krs one come on my channel please
Anyone know this song krs one come on my channel please
Anyone know this song krs one come on my channel please
Anyone know this song krs one come on my channel please
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McYovani 10 months ago
KRS smokes?
macShen 10 months ago
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Nice track!
I have a channel that are promoting this kind of hiphop so stop buy and support the real shit!
Im uploading new underground rapsongs everyday!
All hail real hiphop!
DoktorLinus 11 months ago
y does krs-one always tlk so slow lethargically annunciating everything... i know ima hater but it took dis dumbass 10yrs. to find out record companies fuck u over and he said himself he thinks lil wayne is beast.. wtf idc how long u been in the game.. fucking retarded..
ParZero13 11 months ago
@ParZero13 If your a hater then automatically your ignorant. If your ignorant, then your opinion doesn't matter. Why? Because a hater chooses to not see or better yet avoids the truth. And even if he sees it he won't like it and he'll just say fuc this guy and everything that he does is stupid.
I don't like wayne. If kids like him, what ever, let them listen to it. But I won't cuz I know wats dope and you won't find it in the media, Thy underground lets you say wat u want.
Mrhiphop4life1 11 months ago
@Mrhiphop4life1 one other point you forgot, haters will always find the Bad in people, never the Good. :)
jaw118 11 months ago
@ParZero13 hahaha i get you dawg niggaz might get mad but you got a point krs one lost to nelly cuz of that i respect that he's been in tha game for a long ass time but that wuz retarded
9285dannyboy 9 months ago
1:43 - 2:32
metooblueshoes 1 year ago
IT RESPECT IT BITCH , HATERS SUCK IT
Xxdk5000xX 1 year ago
third eye???
masons simbols??:S:S:S
wtF
vinnie04061990 1 year ago
@vinnie04061990 3 eye, pineal gland Look it up, or look up DMT And READ MUTHAFUCKA READ!
cheats59 1 year ago
Knowledge Reins Supreme with Immortal Technique... too much sickness.
eerawb 1 year ago
@eerawb Voted down because it's reign... Respect Bitch
Thizzilin 1 year ago
@Thizzilin Fail.... Reigns :(
Thizzilin 1 year ago
@Thizzilin
grammar nazi....
eerawb 1 year ago
@eerawb haha
Thizzilin 1 year ago
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You say Justin Bieber-I say Tupac
You say Lil Wayne-I say Biggie Smalls
You say Drake-I say Ice Cube
You say Soulja Boy-I say Big Pun
You say Gucci Mane-I say Rakim
You say New school-i say shut the fuck up
You say Pop-I scream Hip Hop!
You say Hannah Montana-i fucking punch you in the face
92% of teenagers have turned to New school and Pop.If you are part of the 8% that still listen to real music,copy and paste this message to another 5 videos.
vers805 1 year ago
best album boi
ffrenchy1 1 year ago
DOPE!!!!
Buggy702 1 year ago
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TheGoldenVodka 1 year ago 147
@TheGoldenVodka Fuck it, i can'j resist. : )
chuncaladush 1 year ago
@TheGoldenVodka i dont like it
gregmegre 6 months ago
14 people never heard about hip-hop
MrAzhiphop 1 year ago 79
@MrAzhiphop 16 people
KingShkupi8998 9 months ago
The GODZ are in sesion!!
skyzoo2484 1 year ago
About time for sum real collab so so refreshing.
SleeperCell1991 1 year ago
"your life`s a fucking mistake,TECHNIQUE is the remedy!"
AroundThePony 1 year ago
I think it is cause technique hangs around real mc's and lyricist that his style remains so true and raw, but that is just my opinon.
tdb514 1 year ago
@tdb514 naaa he just grew up with the lifestyle and studied so hard while he was in the penn. But tha could be a portion of why hes so great
eprado91 1 year ago
@tdb514
That seems fair. Cuz he is still stick, aint he hanging around with aotp? one of'em?
ConcreteRapztyleProd 1 year ago
@tdb514
That seems fair. Cuz he is still sick, aint he hanging around with aotp? one of'em?
ConcreteRapztyleProd 1 year ago
buckshots verse right there was hot
TheWurdBurd 1 year ago
sweet as smiles...
BennyB6669 1 year ago
damn i never new who was buckshot he got skills
AlexDahKilla 1 year ago
does anybody know what Mixing Desk they have there in the Studio?
ScouseSoldier 1 year ago
dude looks like a tortoise
dansl70 1 year ago
sad how you guys are argueing over the internet... i whould have thought if u knew who immortal technique and KRS are... you whould be clever enough to realise how pointless and stupid both of you are and how no one cares about ure opinions or views. and if u feel the need to maintain some form of keyboard warrior mentality that you must have a penis on the end of ure nose do something creative like go hate on justin bieber bunch of sad faced clowns
fowellgolf 1 year ago 2
buckshot look like fuckin rakim
theclockstickin 1 year ago
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manleyphall 1 year ago
so its would seem like people are agreeing with you haha, but a college education could end all this argument, something alots of people that view the "true hip hop" videos lack hahaha its simply true many people who like this music are uneducated. go to college and stop arguing bout shit you know nothing about, deathsfav1 was right you guys are just too stupid to comprehend
KeepinITreal37 1 year ago
lol i had to go back and read this whole argument that was going on between deaths and jdbankshot and jry17 just cause it seemed interesting, and death is right on everything, it takes longer to develop something needed in an environment, than it takes for someone to lose something unneeded in environment via evolution. and bankshot your fucking dumb bro haha looks like you thumbed up your own comments haha thats why they all have 4 or 5 thumbs up cuz you have that many accounts, or made em
KeepinITreal37 1 year ago
@KeepinITreal37 if it takes longer to develop than lose and black people needed to develop lighter skin to produce vitamin d you just help my arguement. and as for it taking longer to go white than to go black you all keep saying that but have shown no evidence to support it not even a similar case. also talk about time and evolution you think all the evolutions we have took only 2.5 mil years?
JRY17 1 year ago
@KeepinITreal37 also gaining something needed and disposing of uneeded through evolution is the same process they are simply converse of each other. thats like saying it takes longer to walk a mile east than a mile west. i.e. humans have been in controlled climates for 100,000's years now yet we still have body,facial,etc. hair which was used for insulation at the primitive stages of life. explain?
JRY17 1 year ago
Immortal's wearing the same shit as in the "Frontlines" video with Diabolic Hahaha fuck it though. lol
solitaryspademusic 1 year ago
hates to say it. But thinks it's probably time duckdown disabled commenting for this post. Lest the mad scientists take over lol
johnjnukemsheridan 1 year ago
is massively pissed & DISAPPOINTED @ the sheer amount of posts happening on this page by people claiming to 'teach' or 'advise' others WHEN THEY DO IT IN AN INSULTING FASHION TOWARDS OTHERS!!! IF U WANT TO TEACH OR ADVISE SOMEONE OF SOMETHING PERHAPS U SHOULD CONSIDER DOING IT IN A POLITE FASHION. NOT STARTING WITH AN INSULT IS A GOOD WAY TO DO THIS. AS THE SAYING GOES "U ATTRACT MORE FLIES WITH HONEY!" IF U R JUST HERE TO INSULT OTHERS I SUGGEST U GO FUCK YOURSELF FROM EVERY DIRECTION. ONE
johnjnukemsheridan 1 year ago
damn krs got a big ass nose
MrCartmansmom 1 year ago
fuck the illuminati, these guys are exposing them, tumbs up
SShawsYY 1 year ago
hahaha. me and "mr. Shot"
BrewsNiceWitAGrit414 1 year ago
Yo, Immortal...enjoy your status. I'm a fan, even tho your politics are pathetic. But still...wonder why some fucktard like buckshot gets a video intro, and you're a footnote? Your own little racial-clique kids abandoned you. They don't take you seriously. That's why a frightening majority of your fanbase consists of honkies.
Just sayin'
<-honky
twiznatch 1 year ago
@twiznatch by callin shot a fucktard, u discredit yrself immediately. these honkies u speak of , quite a few of them , oh, say, multi-millions worldwide, seem to be creatin & supportin tru boom bap shit. also, abandoners most likely weren't tru homies to start with. youse a smelly cunt, go find dmx.
jdbankshot 1 year ago 2
"Amazing Hip Hop".
Is the only thing to describe this.
HipHopApprentice 1 year ago
krs-1 way too high in this video.
iiknowkungfoo 1 year ago
krs one dr seuss rhymed the this whole album, i didnt like most of his verses , so repetitive in most of the songs , was kinda wack i gotta admit , was hoping for a better album when i bought it ,, eghh...
felony077 1 year ago
this whole era was rushed into...now time is catching up with it. A lotta frauds will be exposed and have to cry "haters". This is REAL hip hop. You can't BUY the label "real" or "hip hop"...you earn it.
Survival skills
hiphopsupremedotcom 1 year ago
i would love to be in that room to smoke Ls and listen to all the knowledge being passed around. wow
MiNdURbIZz1 1 year ago 4
@MiNdURbIZz1 same here it might replace years of filtered education
EscoDaGreat 1 year ago
name of frst song ?
LAskeHosting 1 year ago
@LAskeHosting ha krs-one and buckshot - Survival Skills
qzaktrdo 1 year ago
DeathsFavorite1 = homophobe methinks
johnjnukemsheridan 1 year ago
@johnjnukemsheridan
Homophobe is being scared of gay people. or "put off" by them and i am none of the above. Just because a guy is not gay does not make him a homophobe. I would advise you to look at the dictionary.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 I would advise u to get off this page and stop 'advising' people. At least in the way u have been doing this. U gotta admit u been puttin the time in, arguing the toss (a lot!) with people u don't even know, about things u can do f all about. Or at least, not usin these methods! As i've said b4 this page seems to be attracting that for some strange reason. Why can't ya'l do this in a positive way???? Or plain look at the page then piss off to look at another one like most peeps.
johnjnukemsheridan 1 year ago
@johnjnukemsheridan
Are you really trying to talk? look at the comment you just left electro
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 OMFG! GET A LIFE. FUCK OFF. AND ARGUE SOMEWHERE ELSE. WITH SOMEONE ELSE. MAYBE SOMEWHERE WHERE U CAN GET ARRESTED. THEN WE CAN ALL HAVE SOME FUCKING PEACE. I'M QUITE HAPPY TO JUST LEAVE SHIT. SEEMS U HAVE TO ARGUE WITH EVERY POOR FUCKER WHO POSTS ANYTHING WHATSOEVER TO THIS PAGE. HAVE A LOOK AT *YOUR SHIT* B4 U COMMENT *THAT WAY* ABOUT THE POSTS OF OTHERS. U TAKEN OVER THE WHOLE PAGE 4 FUCKSAKE D.A.! THEN WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAME HERE TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE - APPRECIATE HIP HOP.
johnjnukemsheridan 1 year ago
@johnjnukemsheridan You commented to me dumb ass. If you would have shut your stupid ass mouth we would not be writing. Its called cause and effect dumb ass.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 Erm, yeah cos u commented to me ages ago. I just took awhile to decide if i could be arsed to respond. Not surprised ur confused tho considerin the amount of people u b givin shit to. Just let it go dopey!
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JRY17 1 year ago
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JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17 sry wrong person
JRY17 1 year ago
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satanalamic 1 year ago
this is universe if u like real hip hop and rappers that speak wit a purpose and still keep it lyrical u should listen to my song called off earth its on my page with a few other songs that our off my album called THE BEGINNING, rap was born in the streets then it went mainstream now im takin it to the depths of the universe subscribe and show support for underground rappers
ThaUnknownUniverse 1 year ago
@ThaUnknownUniverse
Rap was born in africa by people named griots. Get off of wiki and learn some real history kid
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago 3
@DeathsFavorite1 griots lived in the streets. stop tryin to seem smart.
jdbankshot 1 year ago
@jdbankshot
Griots were people you moron. SOME did live in the street.
You know nothing about african history you dumb ass. I do find it funny when white people think they are about to tell us about our history though. Its a damn shame.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 i said, " griots lived in the streets", refering to them as people. i thought i had made that obvious. IN OTHER WORDS, I HAVE KNOWN WHO & WHAT GRIOTS ARE SINCE 1986, WHEN I WAS 11!!!!!!!!!!! YOU are the moron & dumb ass!!!!!!!!!!! think a person needs to know the entire history of the entire continent of africa to be a tru hip hop hed????? AS IF I WAS TRYIN TO TELL U "YOUR" HISTORY. very simple... someone said, hip hop is from the streets, u said,no,griots. griots=streets,duh
jdbankshot 1 year ago 2
@DeathsFavorite1 if i know nothing bout frican hist, what does that tell u bout our education? i'd ask u to name ten frican capital cities, but you'd goog it first. TRUST ME, FAGGOT, I'M THE LAST PERSON ON EARTH U WANNA TAKE ON WHEN IT COMES TO HIP HOP!!!!!!!!!!!! u into history, stick with national geographic.
jdbankshot 1 year ago 2
@jdbankshot
no, you are the moron. Griots do not = streets you moron and that is a god awful analogy of it.
and obviously if you are speaking about history no i assure you i am the last person you want to debate as is obvious you know nothing about the griots though you try to pretend really hard.
Griots have nothing to do with the "whole continent of africa" as you stupidly said.
Nothing ever changes. white people assume to know something and know shit.
heh shit for brains.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 i never thought i'd encounter a person( & I use that word loosely because you barely qualify as a person, that's obvious from your comments ) quite as messed up as yourself. you can't even form a proper sentence. very simple, dipshit..... someone left a comment sayin hip hop was from the streets. YOU SAID,"NO".reciting poetry in a rhythmic manner may have originated on the continent of africa, but HIP HOP WAS BORN ON THE STREETS OF AMERICA, U CUNT!! this ain't bout white, BIGOT!
jdbankshot 1 year ago 4
@DeathsFavorite1 why am i even responding to you if you couldn't even understand my previous comments??? by the way, i'm a redman.... native american.... so , u , DO NOT TALK TO ME ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!!!! u r so fuckin pathetic!!!!!!!!!!
jdbankshot 1 year ago 3
@jdbankshot
and i think your lying out your ass because i doubt you are native.
What is the clans you belong to? note i did not say tribe but clan. theres a difference. and of course you would know that if your telling the truth.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 canadian iroquois, susquahanna. we got a river in penn state. happy now?
jdbankshot 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 again, you expose your stupidity. read your last comment to me. you can't even write!!!!
jdbankshot 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 i've re-read my comments as well as yours. it is obvious that you are entirely devoid of intelligence. someone shoulda wacked your pops before he had a chance to jizz in that whore you call mama. checkmate, SON!!!
jdbankshot 1 year ago 3
@jdbankshot
checkmate and you havent even said shit? funny still you try to speak on structuring correct sentences and yours is shit. Dont make a difference if your native or White all the same you dont know shit about our culture as you proved. I said it CAME from the conitnent of africa but no where did i say it WAS the continent of africa and hat you said was
" enitre history of the entire continent of africa " which is not what i said you in-comprehensive twit.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@jdbankshot
and btw i aint ya son son. If you knew ANYTHING about who was on this earth first your dumb ass would know we are YOUR parents dumbass.
You know nothing of history or genetics.
and btw hip hop comes from what? Rap! which comes from what? Griots! who come from where? AFRICA. which makes them what? AFRICAN. Imitators are imitators and thats all you all will ever be. Pale imitations.
And i can talk to you about whatever the hell i please. Grow a pair
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 so pathetic. bla, bla, bla. u shoulda been aborted.
jdbankshot 1 year ago
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@jdbankshot
Those are tribes NOT clans. Anyone within a Native family should know these because they are very important. My last comment said nothing more then you are lying about being native lol.
I also said you can not speak on anyones grammar skills. Believe me you are not picture of perfection.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 you are very boring. not that i have anything to prove to you or anyone else, but, here goes.... i didn't grow up on a rez(reservation, or, the common term for stolen land "resereved" for us by the government). my pops was born of a half native, half scottish father & fully iroquois mother. my moms was born of a fully iroquois father & half mohawk, half scottish mother. the canadian susquahanna iroquois & scottish redshanks. that's my heritage, along with run-dmc, p.e., b.d.p...
jdbankshot 1 year ago 4
@DeathsFavorite1 as far as my heritage goes, i could always scalp you nice and quick just to demonstrate one aspect..... but, i'm a nice guy. what does it matter, anyway? i wanted to peep imm tech & kris & bshot. that's all. the content of melanin in one's bloodstream has no implication whatsoever in determining their potential in any field, especially music. potential for talent & creativity, not just commercial success. but addressing you is like talking to a puddle of mud.
jdbankshot 1 year ago 5
@jdbankshot
..yea.. your white not native.
You are a dumb fool because i did not say others could not copy us (because society copies us anyway hahaha) I said yall need to stop stealing shit. And no it has nothing to do with melanin but genetics. Genetics which is proven to affect many things aside from melanin content. There is a reason We are the fastest things on two legs the world has ever seen. Its genetic. We are the best dancers in the world and we come from everywhere. GENETICS.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 very simply, not only am i not racist, i am anti-racist. you seem to think that i'm some anti-black, neo-nazi, which is my complete opposite. if you are arguing for the superiority of the black race in certain areas, ok, go ahead, i don]t really care. i was here to peep some ill shit. u can call me white til you're blue in the face, fact remains i'm majority iroquois with some scottish bloodlines, therefore i'm not white. sorry. if a 75% native person steals, it's not my doing.
jdbankshot 1 year ago 3
@DeathsFavorite1 im pretty sure ostriches are faster than any human being whether he be white black yellow red brown or any skin tone also how do your genetics account for the fact if two families of "genetically" white descent move to anywhere with a high concentration of u.v. radiation stay for generations i mean multiple, and inter marry with only each other their descendants will develop brown to "black" skin
JRY17 1 year ago 2
@JRY17
That is a simple answer..Genetics does indeed explain...and though i would call you a moron i do realize the school systems are crap. White families, asians, mexican, natives does not really matter. You see there was one race to start the human race and that race is Africans. Africans have every genetic marker where as other races have some here or there. That is because you people came from us.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 intermarriage between the same gene pool does infact create health disabilities look at the DuPonts but if everyone stemed from group of african heritage than we would all still be inter marrying in the same gene pool
JRY17 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 also A 2006 study provides evidence that the light skin pigmentation observed in Europeans and East Asians arose independently. They concluded that light pigmentation in Europeans is at least partially due to the effects of positive directional and/or sexual selection. while i know your referencing the oldest human remains found in africa assumes there was one race to start but dont you think its more likely with all human differences that races were started in sep. areas at
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17 you said what i just said about intermarriage and mental/physical defects. No where did i claim that was not the point. Listen, if you can not comprehend then you are going to have to be silent friend.
And no, the findings show that the oldest (yes as you said) started in africa. FROM africa however we see things gradually get younger meaning there was indeed migration. You theory has been on the board but it had no weight. SO it was dropped due to lack of evidence.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 first off i was agreeing with you about intermarriage if you can't comprehend written text i dont believe you need to be claiming superiority over an elusive field such as genetics. if you were so adept as you claimn you would have said how about 2 of the many skinm tone causing genes have been identified to do so. also by your words if they all started from one in africa that woiuld still cause a group inter producing
JRY17 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 also im not an expert on the study i cited but i doubt a scholarly community has decided three years was enough time to thoroughly refute and debunk all the evidence which said study presented. and yes the oldest human remains were found in africa but that doesn't mean that they are the oldest left on earth or were in fact the first people to have lived. is it probable, sure. i just think based on how long the evolutionary process is stated to take
JRY17 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 that groups, societies, herds w.e. you choose to call them were established at the same or within the century of each other. Genetisists have stated they can trace the gene pool back around 270,000 years in all peoples before reaching a common genome(?). if thats true and evolution is true how do we account for the mass diversity in tone(age) (irish white, german white, american white, mexican, s. american, pac. islnds, n asian, mylasian, italian, n & s african) all have minute
JRY17 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 differences in their skin tones. also another wrench into the assumption of a first race in a post pangea world. back to the dates and time frames, it's said humans evolved from chimps about 7 mil. years ago. it is also said homo sapiens stemming from a worldwide migration of homo erectus from africa 2.5 mil. years ago. are you saying people we describe as cave dwellers were really sea faring peoples and basically conquered the known world.
JRY17 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 or are you saying they migrated through the land while it was still connected in its extreme historical form pangea? which started hundeds of mil. years ago and about 50 mil years ago places africa almost dead in its current spot.
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
Not really..not it is not. Out of all the unique genetic patterns that different races have ONE race has all of them and they are displayed at a common. The varying skin tone is a very simple one and one can see how it occurs/erd by simply looking at a map so i do not feel i should have to get into that aspect. As far as you agreeing with me...you did it completely wrong. You see what i did was acknowledged what you said by including it in a "()" which lets the reader know what i did.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
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@DeathsFavorite1 actually you never put anything i said in parentheses so that's a fail. "The varying skin tone is a very simple one and one can see how it occurs/erd by simply looking at a map so i do not feel i should have to get into that aspect." "Now whites intermarriage(or anyone for that matter) will not cause darker skin no matter where they are" two conflicting ideas stated by the same misinformed(?) person
JRY17 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 explain how a group of one descent can migrate and populate the world and change their tone to lighter, why could a light race not do the same thing and grow darker. also isnt it true that few of the genes actually responsible for determining skn tone have yet to be indentified? you still didnt try to explain how they would have migrated to areas where they would be able to change their skin tone, how do you propose that happened?
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
And there will always be someone trying to bring up a new theory. This however is a good thing because IF it is wrong then we will get the correct answer. But as i have stated genetics and findings all point to africans being the first. What do you have a problem with that? LoL. well i'm sorry but thats the way things are.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 and before you think this is a racial thing re-read my comments i dont believe any race was here first based on the simple logistics of the time evolution requires to transpire the amount of genetic differences could not have developed in the time alotted if there was one "starter" race. there are 4 basic skull structures over 10 distinct skin tones, over 30 distinct facial features. one base is unlikely to produce so much offspring.
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
Hahaha It does not matter what you "believe" because you see i am going with what the people with degrees in the field say. Something that is a known fact is it is impossible to know everything about something. We can get a good understanding but knowing all is impossible.
As far as how a group of people populated the earth and you saying its not possible is absolutely crazy. Humans are not the only ones who have done this. Many animals have.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 weel sir you have just lost yourself the arguement yes animals have been found in each geographic area providing evidence of pangea but seeing as humans evolved around 4 million years ago and pangea created vast mileage of ocean about 50 mil. years ago unless the ancient africans of 3 mil. years ago werre better sea faring people than early south americans who have been historically documented as reaching africa first of all other countries. i dont think so.
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
same species different traits is very normal and common. When people speak about species they can always say who and where they came from. Everything has a place of origin. If you hate the idea of human race coming from Africans go to school get a degree and try to change. But you will not be the first or last who has tried in vain. This is simply one being in denial. As far as HOW they moved about, they had feet & boats which is enough.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
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@DeathsFavorite1 "As far as skin tone is concerned i think you have not done any studying on that. In africa alone there is many skin tones." i've already said this once now you're repeating me the differences in skin tone is because of the amount of UV radiation that slips past the atmosphere in a given geographical location. and if africans migrated and sparked the world's pop. why is their culture not adopted until well later in human history
JRY17 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 first word should be well(stupid keyboard)2nd you say the same arguement about multiple skintones across the world as i do. only you acredit them to de-colorization while completely ruling out the possibilty of darkening while i assume it could happen both ways simultaneously not one or the other as you like to assume it has to happen. 3 same species dif. traits does happen in nature a lot but would you say fish all stem from one genetic marker that then spawned tuna, bass,
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
Well that is because people losing color has more push behind it then vice versa.
As i said the oldest people in the world are african. The remains that are found DOES show movement out of africa. If you are of white it will take many many many yrs to acquire the skin of africans. Even then it is impossible because different races are mutations and off shoots of the original (says genetics). This means there is a strong possibility they lack the genes to revert due to mutation.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@JRY17
And going back momentarily about what i said about how long it would take (If it were possible) the time that would take to occur is more then what has been granted to humans on the earth. This is why that theory of Gaining color does not hold up. Many versions of your theory has been brought up but none make that much sense in the Grand Scheme of things.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 and how does your logic justify the accusation it takes longer to darken than to lighten. that is an irrational thought the two are scientifically converse of each other saying one would take longer has no real merit except for in bigotry and idiocy.
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
I have been very nice with the insults so if i were you i would watch where i put my feet.
Yes it would take longer to darken and i did give you the genetic reason why. Seeing as how it went over your head i will try to say it in a more dumbed down form. Every rce that came after Africans is said to be a mutation. this means the genes changed and was NO longer the same as the parents.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 that is no explenation rather a simple restating of an assumption
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17 that being said One would not simply "darken". It takes a long time for changes like that to occur.
All africans are not super dark but vary in melanin. These changes obviously were to fit the environment and was natural to the first people fitting into their original environment. Mutations occurred and when mutations occurred that means there is NO such thing as going BACK.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 you keep talking about melanin and thats a point i brought up awhile ago when you were talking about genes being the main cause for skin tone make up your mind and stick with it. also i never said all africans were dark where did you get that nonsense i cited earlier the differences in tones between north south and mid africans. what are you talking about going back for no ones talking about anything like that it is an illogical arguement.
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
Wooww are you that stupid? GENES CONTROL MELANIN. That means regardless if i speak of it as genes or melanin it is all the same. I have not restated a assumption i have said what is accepted just about everywhere. It is simply you not wanting to admit it. BUT thus far everything you have said i have given a reason why it is not possible. You just dont want to admit it but regardless fact is fact. Skin DID start as black. Africans are the ONLY group with EVERY genetic marker known to man
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 melanin is not a gene its an amino acid and strings of amino acids make genes. melanin is an amino acid in the gene that produces a skin tone and if generations of your bloodline come from high uv areas naturalistic preventive measures will be taken and the child will be born with an early activation of its melanin. fact is if you take a group of europeans to africa thru generations they would end as dark as locals with european features.
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
" melanin is not a gene its an amino acid and strings of amino acids make genes."
LOL are you that stupid?
If i say its in genes and you say it is IN what makes genes then what do you think that means? ITS IN GENES. please try to keep up because i am moving at a snails pace here. Genetics is what tells ones body how to form this is how when white people get together they have a WHITE baby. Its IN the genes. I think it sad i had to explain middle school science just now.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 no you said melanin was a gene i said it is a part of a gene you said it was the whole so you can keep trying to alter your arguement as you go to reflect what you meant but as far as what you typed you said it was a gene never before now did you say it was only a section of the gene.
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
" no you said melanin was a gene"
word play. You know exactly what i mean and even you did not it has been clarified.
" everyone is born with melanin and the uv concentration of their habitat is what makes it mutate"
Find anywhere where i said ONLY a specific group was born with melanin. I have not but good luck in your search.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 "One factor is the fact that one who is born with melanin HAS it." to most people this would sound as though youre saying some people aren't born with it and dont have it. if thats not what you meant try to be clearer after all you are trying to have a scholarly debate and its incidents like that and your lack luster explanation of melanin that dissuade me from your arguements.
JRY17 1 year ago
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@JRY17
" to most people this would sound as though youre saying some people aren't born with it and dont have it."
That does not matter what it sounds like. The fact is what you said was slander because i never said other people do not have it. That was you throwing words in my mouth.
" if thats not what you meant try to be clearer"
No i was perfectly clear and said what i meant. You messed up so dont throw blame for your screw up. I did not tell you to implicate anything.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@JRY17
" and you say it takes longer to lose traits "
PAY ATTENTION. I said once the genes have mutated ie white people they can NOT revert back to what they were. THAT is EXACTLY what i SAID. AND it is indisputable because its TRUE.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 no matter what your saying now you still said it takes longer via evolution to lose traits than to gain them well the africans living in high uv filled africa developed high concentrations of melanin if they moved to places like england they would have had to decrease production of melanin to allow their bodies to absorb the low amounts of uv and continue producing vitamin b.
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
" no matter what your saying now you still said it takes longer via evolution"
No again this is you not comprehending or assuming.
"I said it would take longer to develop the traits of high melanin THROUGH evolution because MUTATION had occurred and the genes will not REVERT. "
No where in that did i say what you just claimed i did.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@JRY17
" also you are saying it would take longer to turn black because you are still assuming they started black turned white "
There is NO assuming i KNOW it. There are few scientist who say other wise AND thought sane. YOU are in a minority and have no grounds for your view on the opposite.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 a. you dont know anything in this world except that you can never truly understand anything. b. unlike you i know and accept the possibilty im wrong what your saying wouldnt be the unversal accepted if there werent good basis for it but just because something fits good doesnt mean its the right answer and their are holes in the idea and for any race to think they started the world is a juvenile and arrogant thought
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
" if there werent good basis for it but just because something fits good doesnt mean its " and for now it does and we go with what works.
The wholes you claim have all been proved wrong. Which is why it WORKS.
Racist scientist everywhere wanted to prove this wrong.
" and for any race to think they started the world is a juvenile and arrogant thought"
yea because we just all popped out of thin air.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 a. its holes not wholes. and all the errors in the single race theory have not been answered such as the lack of physical proof africans migrated from africa to spawn civilization. no african farming techniques spread throughout the world no african architecture except for pyramids and since all pyramids have not been carbon-dated you can put your african pyramids came out first arguement back on the shelf
JRY17 1 year ago
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@JRY17 " no african farming techniques spread throughout the world no african architecture except for pyramids and since all pyramids have not been carbon-dated you can put your african pyramids came out first arguement back on the shelf"
Wow a whole racist Argument right there. Links will answer them all as well.
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@JRY17
" its holes not wholes." Let me stop you there. I could point out a lot of spelling errors of yours so it would behoove you not to try to trip over spelling. and this has nothing to do with the topic at hand so stop trying to change the subject.
"such as the lack of physical proof africans migrated from africa to spawn civilization."
In the links
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 also it wasn't until recently in the scheme of time that african culture has spread to gain world wide hold. so if they started the world y'd it take so long for the rest of us to bite off them? also if ur right and all humans did start from africa that means a small group in africa populated the world leading us all back to being intertwined inbreds stemming from a group of few who intermarried to populate the world.
JRY17 1 year ago
@JRY17
" also it wasn't until recently in the scheme of time that african culture has spread to gain world wide hold."
Wrong again there are many dances that have been linked to african tribal dance. Many traditions as well. Just because people forgot where they came from does not make it any less true.
" did start from africa that means a small group in africa populated the world leading us all back to being intertwined inbreds"
And there wasplenty of mutations back then also
DeathsFavorite1 1 year ago
@DeathsFavorite1 and you clearly missed my point about one race trying to lay claim. as a white i have seen and anyone with eyes should see how your race is reflected when a group tries to claim superiority over another life you look like a supremist asshole. im saying at least 2 or 3 jump off points for earthly life were here which aside from saying it just happend is the most logical way to account for the numerous differences amongst human beings.
JRY17 1 year ago