@TheProductofsociety you have alot to learn. They are regular ppl just like you and I. There are plenty of natural born boys and girls with the same struggles..
Also, it seems to me that this enormous need to be in the spotlight, to be a dramatic, admired, REAL woman is in fact an unbalanced phenomenon. I actually had a trans roommate and she said ten times a day "I'm a real woman".
Like an obsession.
I thought he/she was entertaining, but only slowly realized the tragedy behind it all, and the ease with which doctors just did anything to him. He/she had no clue
of what was going on really, swallowing tons of meds everyday, rashes, sickness etc.
@suddenlyitsobvious that does not typify every trans girl. i'm sure there is a lot of drama beneath all the layers of being trans in a non trans friendly society. at the end of the day, they are just one of the girls:)
this is NOT by any means a loaded question. just an honest inquiry:
why do transvestites and transgender folks have such short life spans? I recently watched Paris is Burning and googled several of the people in the film....hardly any of them lived to be over fifty....
@ekimusman2 I think it has a lot to do with the changing of the hormonal balance in a person's body. yes, it's possible to go from a man to a woman using hormonal therapy etc. but all of that HAS to take a toll on the body sooner or later. I've never seen an elderly transgendered person. I don't have an M.D., but I think that's why.
Good point! Though society heavily & blindly promotes all "alternative" gender phenomena and constantly tells us how great and NATURAL it all is that we are being ourselves, the truth is few people in society ever find a balanced sexual identity.
I've known trannies and I can tell you I was horrified by how they get butchered by the med system. Then all those hormones, implants...Plus the lifestyle, that's so off the mainstream that not seldom will they get into prostitution...
"SOCIETY" isn't blindly "PROMOTING" anything. Quite the opposite, right? No one is promoting gender change. These people are the opposite gender, and need to do whatever to realize that to the degree that is possible. No one knows why, but they all say that they remember realizing they're in the wrong gendered body from early childhood. That's enough for me. Gay comes from biology, maybe that does as well. Time will tell.
Hi! It occurred to me that my comment might have been a bit hard and not very gentlemanlike, and it wasn't my intention to offend some of the beautiful transgendered creatures that have walked a very long road in order to try to be who they feel they really are. Yet I'm not as sure as you are that people are born that way, and gays may very well sense that they were always "different", but this difference didn't necessarily pertain to sexual orientation...Best to you.
loved this documentary when it came out back in the 90's and fell in love with it's raw beauty..i never imagined i would get to meet anybody from it but i'm happy to say i met Ms. Octavia and she was fabulous. r.i.p.
Never mind I googled it. She died on May 17. RIP Octavia.
She was so beautiful.
I did not know her, but I thought this quote was powerful.
"Gays have rights, lesbians have rights, men have rights, women have rights, even animals have rights. "How many of us have to die before the community recognizes that we are not expendable?"-Octavia Saint Laurent @ the funeral for Amanda Milan
R'I'P OCTAVIA i want to thank u, for all the talks, we had and even when u called me, i will cherish that 4 ever, i still call u r cell to hear ur voice n leave a message, my page on my space was pinned on fri, and i hear the news by texts n a phone call, luv n miss u, when i heard this i was shocked thank u JOSE D X ERIK
Heaven Is Waiting For You Girl! Thank You For Inspiring Me & Everyone Else! You'll Be Missed. You're Forever Legendary! Rest In Peace- See You Next Time Around.
Octavia R.I.P. the LAST of the Paris Is Burning divas , the circle is now complete ... RULE from Infiinity Forever Ladies!! What a sweetheart, always loved seeing her on my dancefloor
Carmen Xtravaganza is still alive... she wasnt one of the stars in paris is burning but she was featured in it... Her and another trans woman on a beach...
RIP Ms. Octavia St. Laurent...You will always live in our hearts... <3 <3 <3 :' o( I know you, Willie, Angie and all the over DIVAS up there are voguing away to the delight of the Universal One of ALL THAT IS...You will be missed something FIERCE!!!
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hoeny ms octavia is a cruel fag. if you look at this video how she was 20 years ago and you heard her now. saying she is proud to be a man and anyone who wants to be a women who is transgendered got issues. fuck this fag octavia!! a disgrace to the real queens. bitch you are not the poster child for us move over!!!
you can get the documentary on Netflix
mackj3 6 months ago
octavia was gorgeous, my God. So sweet and full of light.
chicnoir29 7 months ago
RIP HEAVENLY ANGEL OCTAVIA <3 GONE 2 YEARS TODAY
Toodles1218 8 months ago
where can I watch the documentary? please reply someone? i can't find the link...
gymguy3 10 months ago
@gymguy3 Try the usual torrent site.
SergiyGagarin 10 months ago
@SergiyGagarin good idea. i was lookin for a quick fix but i'll do that. thx
gymguy3 10 months ago
@gymguy3 vimeo has it
ravenr1723 10 months ago
@ravenr1723 thanks! found it on vimeo :)
gymguy3 10 months ago
@gymguy3
Its' been posted on YT. Type it in the search bar.
NicolaWriter 9 months ago
@gymguy3 try Netflixx
mackj3 6 months ago
I pray that she got some DECENT COOKWARE before her untimely passing.
threexladi 11 months ago
She's so cute!
312riccardo 1 year ago
This makes me sad it males me think,transsexuals have really bad lives they end up being killed or dying of aids or on drugs.
TheProductofsociety 1 year ago
@TheProductofsociety you have alot to learn. They are regular ppl just like you and I. There are plenty of natural born boys and girls with the same struggles..
tacosinyogrill 1 year ago
RIP!
NiteFlirtTS2006 1 year ago
The videos I've seen of balls from back in the day look so glamorous!
claresa14 1 year ago
Also, it seems to me that this enormous need to be in the spotlight, to be a dramatic, admired, REAL woman is in fact an unbalanced phenomenon. I actually had a trans roommate and she said ten times a day "I'm a real woman".
Like an obsession.
I thought he/she was entertaining, but only slowly realized the tragedy behind it all, and the ease with which doctors just did anything to him. He/she had no clue
of what was going on really, swallowing tons of meds everyday, rashes, sickness etc.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious that does not typify every trans girl. i'm sure there is a lot of drama beneath all the layers of being trans in a non trans friendly society. at the end of the day, they are just one of the girls:)
ewburris 1 year ago
@ewburris
Well, OK, let's hear it for those wonderful girls. I don't think there's many transgendered nuns though...:)
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
ok see i need to buy this movie.
BLAKPEARL69 1 year ago
this is NOT by any means a loaded question. just an honest inquiry:
why do transvestites and transgender folks have such short life spans? I recently watched Paris is Burning and googled several of the people in the film....hardly any of them lived to be over fifty....
ekimusman2 1 year ago
@ekimusman2 I think it has a lot to do with the changing of the hormonal balance in a person's body. yes, it's possible to go from a man to a woman using hormonal therapy etc. but all of that HAS to take a toll on the body sooner or later. I've never seen an elderly transgendered person. I don't have an M.D., but I think that's why.
Jdot185 1 year ago
@ekimusman2
Good point! Though society heavily & blindly promotes all "alternative" gender phenomena and constantly tells us how great and NATURAL it all is that we are being ourselves, the truth is few people in society ever find a balanced sexual identity.
I've known trannies and I can tell you I was horrified by how they get butchered by the med system. Then all those hormones, implants...Plus the lifestyle, that's so off the mainstream that not seldom will they get into prostitution...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious
"SOCIETY" isn't blindly "PROMOTING" anything. Quite the opposite, right? No one is promoting gender change. These people are the opposite gender, and need to do whatever to realize that to the degree that is possible. No one knows why, but they all say that they remember realizing they're in the wrong gendered body from early childhood. That's enough for me. Gay comes from biology, maybe that does as well. Time will tell.
DominickinCharlotte 1 year ago
@DominickinCharlotte
Hi! It occurred to me that my comment might have been a bit hard and not very gentlemanlike, and it wasn't my intention to offend some of the beautiful transgendered creatures that have walked a very long road in order to try to be who they feel they really are. Yet I'm not as sure as you are that people are born that way, and gays may very well sense that they were always "different", but this difference didn't necessarily pertain to sexual orientation...Best to you.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
beautiful....
panamaboy27 1 year ago
Love her .. RIP Octavia
01whateverman 1 year ago
R.I.P Octavia. Muah
Neosoul1386 1 year ago
Octavia serves it!
leniaj 1 year ago
she is fucking amazing... such an inspiring movie
thetidesofmarch 1 year ago
omg, I just found out she passed.
it sure is hard being us, isn't it?
ezywonder 1 year ago
@ezywonder all humans die you know.
Shanniquitie 1 year ago
loved this documentary when it came out back in the 90's and fell in love with it's raw beauty..i never imagined i would get to meet anybody from it but i'm happy to say i met Ms. Octavia and she was fabulous. r.i.p.
jonboy699 2 years ago
we love you miss Octavia!! you paved the way for girls like me!!
traceMilan81 2 years ago
she was stunning!!
LovvaBoi 2 years ago
YSL,one year ago,Octavia is with him now.R.I.P.
ssballs 2 years ago
RIP Miss Octavia
maddison25 2 years ago
She died??!!!! When!!!!!?????
downbutnotout84 2 years ago
Never mind I googled it. She died on May 17. RIP Octavia.
She was so beautiful.
I did not know her, but I thought this quote was powerful.
"Gays have rights, lesbians have rights, men have rights, women have rights, even animals have rights. "How many of us have to die before the community recognizes that we are not expendable?"-Octavia Saint Laurent @ the funeral for Amanda Milan
downbutnotout84 2 years ago 12
3 weeks ago
maddison25 2 years ago
she died after a long battle with cancer on May 17, 2009.
AME37 2 years ago
you have tocued so many trans Girls lives ,you have your wings Now sis
kat21sd 2 years ago 2
R.I.P. Octavia Saint Laurent!!!!! You will be missed!!!!!!!
MadonnazBoy 2 years ago
Heartbreaking to say the least. Octavia, you rocked!
Popfeenin 2 years ago
R'I'P OCTAVIA i want to thank u, for all the talks, we had and even when u called me, i will cherish that 4 ever, i still call u r cell to hear ur voice n leave a message, my page on my space was pinned on fri, and i hear the news by texts n a phone call, luv n miss u, when i heard this i was shocked thank u JOSE D X ERIK
eriklopez100 2 years ago
R.I.P. Sistah girl....I cant wait to meet you in that great big baalllllllroom in the sky...
silkroadselam 2 years ago
She had the something special.
R.I.P. much love queen
suninmymouth78 2 years ago
R.I.P
to EVERY FEMMQUEENS! FAVORITE FEMQUEEN!
love you so much!
deziremenow143 2 years ago 2
R.I.P. Octavia. You inspired more than you ever knew!!
elestivine 2 years ago 2
RIP miss OCTAVIA
MarloFerragamo 2 years ago
Heaven Is Waiting For You Girl! Thank You For Inspiring Me & Everyone Else! You'll Be Missed. You're Forever Legendary! Rest In Peace- See You Next Time Around.
santinosantino 2 years ago 3
Octavia R.I.P. the LAST of the Paris Is Burning divas , the circle is now complete ... RULE from Infiinity Forever Ladies!! What a sweetheart, always loved seeing her on my dancefloor
tennyc 2 years ago
Carmen Xtravaganza is still alive... she wasnt one of the stars in paris is burning but she was featured in it... Her and another trans woman on a beach...
tyty123479 2 years ago
Brooke was the woman on the beach with her.Does anyone know if Brooke is still alive? She had a full sex change at the time.
denienec123 1 year ago
@denienec123 Brooke is very much alive, she recently showed up in November fro the House of Xtrava's ball.
dellculookin 1 year ago
HOW DID SHE DIE?
ChuckZo308 2 years ago
RIP Ms. Octavia St. Laurent...You will always live in our hearts... <3 <3 <3 :' o( I know you, Willie, Angie and all the over DIVAS up there are voguing away to the delight of the Universal One of ALL THAT IS...You will be missed something FIERCE!!!
alexanderdiaz1 2 years ago
r.i.p.
BLAKPEARL69 2 years ago
R.I.P. Octavia, another Legend/Icon taken from us. But, have ball up there with everyone else gurl!
dabx1 2 years ago
R.I.P Octavia
CHEEKBEATAH 2 years ago
R.I.P Octavia you will be missed!
nativestyle26 2 years ago
RIP PEACE OCTAVIA YOU LIVE IN ME
evadivachanel 2 years ago
bye my sister n friend! xoxo
lauren6000 2 years ago
RIP my sister, I will miss you
bodybeautiful08 2 years ago
rip Octavia!
ChocMami 2 years ago
Lol
DarylWashingtonV4 2 years ago
she is lovely
shesicyhot 3 years ago 3
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hoeny ms octavia is a cruel fag. if you look at this video how she was 20 years ago and you heard her now. saying she is proud to be a man and anyone who wants to be a women who is transgendered got issues. fuck this fag octavia!! a disgrace to the real queens. bitch you are not the poster child for us move over!!!
princessadiamond 3 years ago
I agree, fuck that nigga!
DarylWashingtonV4 2 years ago
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drag gueen dreaming. wake up bith!
discofabe 3 years ago
PAULINA PORIZKOVA the MOST BEAUTIFUL SUPERMODEL with a heart....
dominic1968 4 years ago