Impossible for me to do it like this guy is doing. Im taller and hip doesnt bend as much as his. With straight back, bending from hip, knee i would end up pulling the bar to my chest because my knees are pointing out so much :D Im stretching almost everyday to get more flexibility exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/BBBentOverRow.html here are some facts about rowing
So I'm still learning, but would you consider the position of the pendlay row the same as the starting position of the typical deadlift stance that Rippetoe might teach? I'm learning his stuff and i want to incorporate this row into my workout.
no, the position of the pendlay row is the same as the starting position of the romanian deadlift with your hips really high, but thats no reason to NOT incorporate it into your workout ;-)
I dont know who named this the Pendlay row, but people have been doing that style of row waaaaaaaaaaaaay before Pendlay came around. Don't get me wrong, Pendlay is cool and all, just never understood why they were called Pendlay rows.
Hey i've got a question about form, when you guys do this does it usually work the back of your shoulders? and do you feel any stress on your lower back? yesterday i did very light weight to check the form, and my inner back is sore, but i remember my shoulders and lower back were bothering me. tips?
@gangkapak That's like asking which is better... chicken or steak? The answer is yes! They are simply different movements. One is not necessarily better than the other. Or, at least, you are likely to get different answers from different people. Each movement results in slightly different recruitment of the muscles in your back. So the best answer is... it depends.
@LISdafreestyler A traditional barbell row is not as strict a movement. The torso is usually slightly more upright than a Pendlay Row and some hip movement is expected. The result is one can usually use more weight with a barbell row. Different muscle recruitment also.
@LISdafreestyler The pendlay row is a bent-over barbell row. As far as I can tell it means doing them with an overhand (prone) grip and setting the bar down between reps.
Not bad, but you should be bringing the bar up to your neck, with your wrists pointing completely horizontally
Btw, you should be exhaling like a freight train at the end of every rep, as well as letting out a minimal amount of flatulence to maximize muscle tearing
How do you maintain your balance? I push my glutes as far back as I can to bring the chest as close to the middle of my feet as possible so that I can maintain balance and not have the weight pull me forward!
I think the difference lies in the way the position is fixed and the weight is lifted of the ground every rep. Not sure though why it's called Pendlay Rows.
I just recently switched over to Pendlay Rows and i like it alot more, I feel it hits my lats more than normal rows but that's just me. Good form on your rows btw.
Pendlay rows will build massive strength all over, if you are an athlete or strength fanatic, Pendlay Rows are a must, they also build more mass than any machines out there.
Quick question , when i tried doing these today, i couldnt get the bar to touch my lower pecs - even with just the bar i couldnt, does it really matter?
What is the purpose of shrugging prior to each rep. You appear to be shrugging your shoulders. Is this a way of "setting" yourself into proper position to execute the lift?
I think with the shruggin youre referring to the flexing of the lats, in order to lift the weight. I don't see how you can not 'shrug' prior to lifting the weight.
Well, it's as if he shrugs right before every set, rather than just lifting the bar without the shrug. He "sets" his shoulders towards his ears and back , then lifts. I was wondering what this accomplishes from a biomechanical standpoint.
I've already commented on this, if you look back through the comments... Yes, you are. The first 2-3 reps I've got here were done correctly. The last few, I should have kept my head up but did not. Sue me. ;-)
If you can't pull it without aids, then you cant pull it. Hes doing just fine. The key to this exercise is form, belts make up for a weak lower back which this guy dose not have.
They're a much more controlled movement than your typical bent row, and obviously are not supposed to rely on any English to complete the rep. Both are good movements and I'd say both have their place. I think I'd say I'm partial to these over bent rows, but these are what I know best. Bent rows are a good movement too.
great form buddy. would you mind telling me your height and weight? I just started pendlay rows this week and would like to compare to see where I am at and what kind of goals to set. thanks!
Thank you. Turns out, AFTER I made this video, I found out there was actually one thing wrong with my form. On the last 2-3 reps, I kept my head DOWN. You're supposed to keep your head up, looking forward. Helps keep the lat arch nice and tight.
I think the 2nd edition of Starting Strength will clarify Mark's position on this, but if you look at his advice for every other lift, it's to keep a "neutral" cervical spine. E.g. he has people look down 6-10 feet in front of them in a squat with their neck "turtled" back into the bar.
If you are keeping a proper arch in your back, then the "chin tuck" think Rip recommends would actually call for you looking DOWN in a row, which seems more natural, imho.
Its rare you see someone doing good form on these, nice job :-)
Jtking3000 2 weeks ago
Impossible for me to do it like this guy is doing. Im taller and hip doesnt bend as much as his. With straight back, bending from hip, knee i would end up pulling the bar to my chest because my knees are pointing out so much :D Im stretching almost everyday to get more flexibility exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/BBBentOverRow.html here are some facts about rowing
kibetsu 1 month ago
chupame huevos
Klipschrf35 2 months ago
You're strong as hell. I tried Pendlay rows for the first time today. Only 135x5
SilverbackFitness 3 months ago
It looks pretty hard, especially with that amount of weight. Very good form
qwertyfelix 4 months ago
4 manlets watched this video.
herc410 4 months ago
Pretty nice, but isn't your torso supposed to stay fixed in the same place throughout the rep? Seeing quite a bit of vertical movement here.
sbowesuk 4 months ago
So I'm still learning, but would you consider the position of the pendlay row the same as the starting position of the typical deadlift stance that Rippetoe might teach? I'm learning his stuff and i want to incorporate this row into my workout.
holisticdan 5 months ago
@holisticdan
no, the position of the pendlay row is the same as the starting position of the romanian deadlift with your hips really high, but thats no reason to NOT incorporate it into your workout ;-)
jopdidu321 4 months ago
I dont know who named this the Pendlay row, but people have been doing that style of row waaaaaaaaaaaaay before Pendlay came around. Don't get me wrong, Pendlay is cool and all, just never understood why they were called Pendlay rows.
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Hey i've got a question about form, when you guys do this does it usually work the back of your shoulders? and do you feel any stress on your lower back? yesterday i did very light weight to check the form, and my inner back is sore, but i remember my shoulders and lower back were bothering me. tips?
ChrisBranleh 7 months ago
awesome form. i have short legs long torso so its tough for me
rogue8853 7 months ago
no bicept braaah
exterminatorium61 8 months ago
best pendlay row form i've seen , respect
jacko717 8 months ago
perfect form! impressing.
Jograndable 8 months ago
That looks good man
xenophon86 10 months ago
so which one is better, Barbell row or pendlay?
gangkapak 10 months ago
@gangkapak That's like asking which is better... chicken or steak? The answer is yes! They are simply different movements. One is not necessarily better than the other. Or, at least, you are likely to get different answers from different people. Each movement results in slightly different recruitment of the muscles in your back. So the best answer is... it depends.
VikingMan44 10 months ago 8
@VikingMan44
Exactly!!
Flyyyy 8 months ago
@VikingMan44 Pretty sure 'pendlay row' is a FORM of barbell row too.
tyciol 8 months ago
What's the difference between this and bent over barbell row?
Also, very impressive (Y)
LISdafreestyler 10 months ago
@LISdafreestyler A traditional barbell row is not as strict a movement. The torso is usually slightly more upright than a Pendlay Row and some hip movement is expected. The result is one can usually use more weight with a barbell row. Different muscle recruitment also.
VikingMan44 10 months ago
@VikingMan44 Ahh I see. Thanks.
LISdafreestyler 10 months ago
@LISdafreestyler The pendlay row is a bent-over barbell row. As far as I can tell it means doing them with an overhand (prone) grip and setting the bar down between reps.
tyciol 8 months ago
Not bad, but you should be bringing the bar up to your neck, with your wrists pointing completely horizontally
Btw, you should be exhaling like a freight train at the end of every rep, as well as letting out a minimal amount of flatulence to maximize muscle tearing
thegreekmatt 1 year ago
@thegreekmatt Lol, good one...
sbowesuk 11 months ago
@thegreekmatt ahahahaha yes little flatulence won't hurt
bluenmoon 8 months ago
very good form.
winkieatutube 1 year ago
I thought these were supposed to be pulled up close to the legs
MrGrevy 1 year ago
@MrGrevy
Nope. To the chest.
zintinio 9 months ago
wow i'm impressed.
takes a lot of strength and concentration to pull that off.
and your body swing is minimal.
kimo1371 1 year ago
i feel a very strong pressure on my knees when trying to get into that form, is there anything i can do to avoid that?
Chopduel 1 year ago
Good job.
batmantrainer 1 year ago
best form on youtube
sakelee 1 year ago
fur woden nigga
JKillaDaRealest 1 year ago
How do you maintain your balance? I push my glutes as far back as I can to bring the chest as close to the middle of my feet as possible so that I can maintain balance and not have the weight pull me forward!
tempac91 1 year ago
Viking that's very good form.. looking down in a few reps? no biggie
mac2k2020 1 year ago 2
do you use thumbless grip?
poyss71 1 year ago
do you use thumbless grip?
poyss71 1 year ago
Though I like weighted pull/chin-ups more, I've been working on these bent-over rows lately.
Nice lifting, by the way.
TBW92 1 year ago
One of the few pend. rows I've seen on here with good form. Take note : no hip or knee movement, all back. I likey.
86ttop 1 year ago
Animel !!!
nikkolodien 2 years ago
Grip: Overhand. Under VS Over simply results in different muscle recruitment in your arms and back.
Grip width: Go with whatever feels best. Shoulder(ish) grip width is what I use. To wide a grip always made my shoulders feel shitty though.
VikingMan44 2 years ago
What's your grip here?
phirephaxL 1 year ago
What is the ideal hand width and stance width for this or is it optional?
SCROGY 2 years ago
which way are ur palms facing on this lift?
mine are facing up. what's the difference between the two?
drionsh 2 years ago
Great lift for building back mass, and dude nice clean lifts.
cvrfitness 2 years ago 4
Isn't this just called a barbell row? I don't think Pendlay came up with this, though he seems to be unintentionally getting all the credit.
sepandee 2 years ago
I think the difference lies in the way the position is fixed and the weight is lifted of the ground every rep. Not sure though why it's called Pendlay Rows.
salman06p0020 2 years ago
I just recently switched over to Pendlay Rows and i like it alot more, I feel it hits my lats more than normal rows but that's just me. Good form on your rows btw.
tomato332 2 years ago 3
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I'd rather do some wide-grip cable rows instead of that bs.
But thats just me.
fpsdougz 2 years ago
Pendlay rows will build massive strength all over, if you are an athlete or strength fanatic, Pendlay Rows are a must, they also build more mass than any machines out there.
ulemper 2 years ago 4
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Ive tried today that pendlay piece of junk and you know... IT SUCK!
I feel my back much better with bent-over rows.
fpsdougz 2 years ago
It's not a shrug so much as it is fully relaxing the lats befor performing the next rep.
VikingMan44 2 years ago
Fantastic form. Really great, though I also have the same question as a previous poster. Why do you shrug before each rep?
ahmsv1 2 years ago
Quick question , when i tried doing these today, i couldnt get the bar to touch my lower pecs - even with just the bar i couldnt, does it really matter?
ThePurple0range 2 years ago
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Bordereye,
it`s not just you.
Very demanding exercise.
5rogiv 2 years ago
What is the purpose of shrugging prior to each rep. You appear to be shrugging your shoulders. Is this a way of "setting" yourself into proper position to execute the lift?
SCROGY 2 years ago
@SCROGY
@ahmsv1
I think with the shruggin youre referring to the flexing of the lats, in order to lift the weight. I don't see how you can not 'shrug' prior to lifting the weight.
Rulrke 2 years ago
Well, it's as if he shrugs right before every set, rather than just lifting the bar without the shrug. He "sets" his shoulders towards his ears and back , then lifts. I was wondering what this accomplishes from a biomechanical standpoint.
SCROGY 2 years ago
He's deloading the weight
MistahMule 2 years ago
I find Pendlay Rows the most difficult exercise of all (much more challenging than deadlifts and romanian deadlifts, IMHO).
It's now six weeks since I've included them in my training and I still don't feel comfortable.
It's not easy to keep your back straight and parallel to the floor while lifting a heavy barbell.
Maybe it's just me...
bordereye 2 years ago
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5rogiv 2 years ago
excellent form man, your seem to be the only one on youtube that can do these correctly and with such weight aswell! Glen Pendlay would be proud!
olibeast06 2 years ago 3
geez, doesnt that hurt your back?
ZionistCensorship 2 years ago
No, these are Pendlay rows.
Kamaka675 2 years ago
Nice lifting bro!
unlockthepower 2 years ago
Very Nice. U see so many crappy vids on penrows it's good to see one with strict form. Love'n it.
45a14 2 years ago
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do some abs
steveny914 2 years ago
Yea awesome idea! He should also focus on biceps. That's where true strength comes from!
.....Fuckin idiots who don't know shit about lifting....
Ignoring the retards, nice form man.
kamikazeslammer 2 years ago 35
Excellent form, well done
DOOSHBAHG 3 years ago
Very good example of proper Penrow form -- and good weight, too!
senatus 3 years ago 3
Wow. Awsome form. way to go. I can do only 185. I'm trying to keep my form as strict as you.
bsy020 3 years ago
Damn, this is a good show! I keep linking everybody to this video to show them how Pendlay Rows are really done.
Z164749 3 years ago 7
Where is the bar hitting your waist exactly and how wide is your grip? Thanks for the video, impressive lift.
bijanpatala 3 years ago
Upper abs, and grip about shoulder width
Booplin 3 years ago
strong fucking back wow
ZyphonZest 3 years ago
Vittu mikä sika :D
Amarth41269 3 years ago
That is a good looking pendlay row.
plcj58 3 years ago
aren't you supposed to look straight ahead, not the floor?
PlagueAngel77 3 years ago
I've already commented on this, if you look back through the comments... Yes, you are. The first 2-3 reps I've got here were done correctly. The last few, I should have kept my head up but did not. Sue me. ;-)
VikingMan44 3 years ago 4
ok. thanks for the advice.
PlagueAngel77 3 years ago
I thought you were meant to look at the floor for these. Strong lifts either way.
woodan 3 years ago
@PlagueAngel77 it helps prevent your back from overarching. it can cause vulnerability to injury. always good practice to look forward.
he does clean reps, good video
eatmealiveplease 1 year ago
do you have to set the weight down b/c i do em w/ less weight (just 1 35lb on each side) and it doesnt touch ground b/c i am 6 foot 1?
noah6021 3 years ago
yeah let the bar be entirely dead before you start ur next rep (don't just touch the ground completely let go of it weight wise)
ronhoward47 3 years ago
whats the difference between a pendlay row and a normal row?
jamesykt69 3 years ago
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normal row your knees are less bent and you don't let the barbell touch the ground.
SadMammal 3 years ago
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Oh please. Shut the fuck up.
vypicenejkolousek 3 years ago
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Not bad, but you need a belt man. Get a weight lifting belt.
kalijasin 3 years ago
If you can't pull it without aids, then you cant pull it. Hes doing just fine. The key to this exercise is form, belts make up for a weak lower back which this guy dose not have.
mtbkid200 3 years ago 8
that's a bit insulting to the hiv+ community
LazersFromJimmy 3 years ago
very nice -- looks like it can pack on a lot of strength, I'm going to learn this one.
pabunko 3 years ago
perfect form vike
toolong46 4 years ago
Those are the best Pendrows (as I call 'em in my training log *:D*) I've seen.
senatus 4 years ago
Fantastic rowing! Very strict form with heavy weight.
fdfdfdfdsss 4 years ago
damn thanks for the video I needed to see someone do it b/c only text descriptions are hard to follow
BGShade4 4 years ago
Very impressive weight with excellent form. I can currently do 160 lb. Pendlay Rows for 5 reps with good form.
W8Addict 4 years ago
I never done these before, just normal bent over row. How do you rate them compared to bent over row? I like the snatching movement.
paulockleford 4 years ago
They're a much more controlled movement than your typical bent row, and obviously are not supposed to rely on any English to complete the rep. Both are good movements and I'd say both have their place. I think I'd say I'm partial to these over bent rows, but these are what I know best. Bent rows are a good movement too.
VikingMan44 4 years ago
great form buddy. would you mind telling me your height and weight? I just started pendlay rows this week and would like to compare to see where I am at and what kind of goals to set. thanks!
jerin23holker 4 years ago
6 foot, 260LBS :)
VikingMan44 4 years ago
Wow awesome form
markwood88 4 years ago 3
Thank you. Turns out, AFTER I made this video, I found out there was actually one thing wrong with my form. On the last 2-3 reps, I kept my head DOWN. You're supposed to keep your head up, looking forward. Helps keep the lat arch nice and tight.
VikingMan44 4 years ago
True didnt even notice lol.
markwood88 4 years ago 2
I think the 2nd edition of Starting Strength will clarify Mark's position on this, but if you look at his advice for every other lift, it's to keep a "neutral" cervical spine. E.g. he has people look down 6-10 feet in front of them in a squat with their neck "turtled" back into the bar.
If you are keeping a proper arch in your back, then the "chin tuck" think Rip recommends would actually call for you looking DOWN in a row, which seems more natural, imho.
mikeynov 4 years ago
All respect to Mr. Rippetoe, I like this with a contraction in the erectors along the entire spine.
VikingMan44 4 years ago
That was outstanding form, bravo.
Corrosive666 4 years ago
BP is da house
BrianPeppers42 5 years ago
Good on the deloads too
stracinsrt4 5 years ago
Thanks. This is very informative. Nice form!
MelloToJello 5 years ago
Thanks vikingman for post this too.
griffin1234 5 years ago
Thanks for posting this, I have wanted to see how these are meant to be done.
tiger86215 5 years ago
I concur, VM. Looks great.
LenchoJr 5 years ago
textbook. I'm bookmarking this and I'm going to show it to people who ask "what's a Pendlay row look like"?
sgtrobo 5 years ago
Thanks man. For anyone wondering, there are two 25LB plates outside each of the 45's, plus a 5 and a 2.5.
VikingMan44 5 years ago