I have worked with my filly in the round pen and does well. The problem becomes when she is out of the round pen and wants to be with the other horses. Then she pulls away. How do you handle this.
The first thing I always do is ask myself: "how can I make the right thing easy, and the wrong thing difficult?" and go from there. Keep it to baby steps... break it down into several smaller lessons, building up to your goal. Good luck!
can you tell me about how long do you think a session with a horse in the pen should be and what they should learn at each session- is there something that is needed per session b4 u stop?- again thank you kindly
I usually try to budget one hour, but sometimes it takes longer and sometimes it's shorter.. as long as the horse is not exhausted, and you end on a good note (horse calm and attentive). thanks for asking!
I put the hay in the round pen and left the gate open... each day I would try to sneak up and close the gate before she bolted out of there... one day I caught her! That's the moment we began...
She is releasing the pressure when the horse stops and looks. Basically reinforcing the stopping behavior. I thought the purpose was to reinforce the movement.
This gal is great...I have a 3mos old colt- I tried to get a halter on yesterday and I wish I had more stamina! My guy has an attitude & tried to nail me with his front feet-never had a horse do to me...I need a round pen. My friend says to leave him for a few months and let him mature. He's stronger than I am so I have no choice to but to let him be for now.
First of all, you should have a halter on your horse within it's first day. Sometimes it's a bit difficult, but in the long run, it works out for the better. The bonding process is a very important process, and it's easily accessed at a younger age.
Other than that, I really think this woman has good charisma with horses.
If you had been watching all the episodes, you would know that the horse was not halter-broken at 4 years old (when I got her), and she was terrified of humans and uncatchable. Otherwise, I would have put a halter on her earlier. It took several sessions in the roundpen before I could even get near her with a halter. She was an extreme case, which is why I wanted people to see how to handle it. Thanks for watching.
Round pen sessions can last from 10 minutes to an hour or more, depending on what I'm doing... the average for Sundance was about 30 minutes per session. I only made sure she was calmer at the end than when I started, no matter what we were working on. If I did it every day, it would have taken about 2-3 weeks, but I worked with her once or twice a week, so it took longer. Each horse is different, so I keep it flexible and don't put a time limit on anything. Thanks for your question!
oh and does it matter how big the round pen is? mine is really small-like if you were to go 2 feet into the middle then look at big it would be in a circle from there, thats how big mine is...
if you look at your horse directly it considers it a challenge and could potentially make him react by charging- you wanna look down and use your peripheral vision to approach in a non threatening manner.
No, I don't lower my eyes, for safety reasons. I need to be looking at the horse to see any clues about behavior and attitude. Taking your eyes off your horse can be unsafe, as you may miss an important signal from your horse. Your body language is sufficient to convey your wishes to your horse, including the "come here" cue. Thanks for asking!
plus if you lower your eyes, thats like submitting to your horse, and you don't want that if your trying to be alpha. you stand your ground look them in the eye, and maybe even take a step forward. My friend just got 2 new horses and I've gone and watched our trainer train them the past few days. I ride at a stable that practices *almost* natural horsemanship. we don't use saddles or bits, but we also don't let our horse be alpha over us. But everyone has their own way of training.
correction, its not *almost* natural horsemanship, its a blend of training techniques derived from Monty Roberts, Pat Parelli, John Lyons and other well known trainers.
This is just FANTASTIC training, so very helpful and descriptive. The filly is very lucky to have you as a trainer! Thanks so much for sharing, like another one said, I'm sure this will come in handy for me someday.
Remember, not only was this filly NOT halter broken, she had been scared in the past and was now very fearful of humans and getting caught. Normally this stage would progress much faster with a youngster who had been handled regularly.... this filly needed extra time to get over her fears.....
Wow!
Pigg0 1 year ago
Very very good, obviuosly a pro! Bravo!A+++++++++=
badboyfreaky69 1 year ago
I have worked with my filly in the round pen and does well. The problem becomes when she is out of the round pen and wants to be with the other horses. Then she pulls away. How do you handle this.
barybarc 1 year ago
@barybarc
The first thing I always do is ask myself: "how can I make the right thing easy, and the wrong thing difficult?" and go from there. Keep it to baby steps... break it down into several smaller lessons, building up to your goal. Good luck!
AeronRiding 1 year ago
can you tell me about how long do you think a session with a horse in the pen should be and what they should learn at each session- is there something that is needed per session b4 u stop?- again thank you kindly
prettyparadoxal 1 year ago
I usually try to budget one hour, but sometimes it takes longer and sometimes it's shorter.. as long as the horse is not exhausted, and you end on a good note (horse calm and attentive). thanks for asking!
AeronRiding 1 year ago
HI also can you tell me how you got her into the pen? i have this same problem with many of my horses ty
prettyparadoxal 1 year ago
I put the hay in the round pen and left the gate open... each day I would try to sneak up and close the gate before she bolted out of there... one day I caught her! That's the moment we began...
AeronRiding 1 year ago
hi - can you tell me why they lick their lips
prettyparadoxal 1 year ago
when you reward her are you giving her a treat?
ndcnick2000 1 year ago
No treats, just praise and positive reinforcement. : )
AeronRiding 1 year ago
this is exactly what i want to do when i grow up! do you make a good profit? im deffinetly subscribing
arabianlover97 2 years ago
She is releasing the pressure when the horse stops and looks. Basically reinforcing the stopping behavior. I thought the purpose was to reinforce the movement.
the13islucky 2 years ago
Movement first, then modify the behavior (stop/come to me/etc). Thanks for watching!
AeronRiding 2 years ago
Yeah great idea! Start with the scariest halter!
bellestarr71 2 years ago
You know, piggy, this little guy has been a little brat since he hit the ground, unfortunately!
MissKatieMarie1 2 years ago
This gal is great...I have a 3mos old colt- I tried to get a halter on yesterday and I wish I had more stamina! My guy has an attitude & tried to nail me with his front feet-never had a horse do to me...I need a round pen. My friend says to leave him for a few months and let him mature. He's stronger than I am so I have no choice to but to let him be for now.
MissKatieMarie1 2 years ago
Let me add that I have a back injury that limits the amount of hold I have on him...not so good!
MissKatieMarie1 2 years ago
That is the perfect example of why you halter break very young...
PiggyDog89 2 years ago
First of all, you should have a halter on your horse within it's first day. Sometimes it's a bit difficult, but in the long run, it works out for the better. The bonding process is a very important process, and it's easily accessed at a younger age.
Other than that, I really think this woman has good charisma with horses.
poobah12 2 years ago
If you had been watching all the episodes, you would know that the horse was not halter-broken at 4 years old (when I got her), and she was terrified of humans and uncatchable. Otherwise, I would have put a halter on her earlier. It took several sessions in the roundpen before I could even get near her with a halter. She was an extreme case, which is why I wanted people to see how to handle it. Thanks for watching.
AeronRiding 2 years ago
Umm you say in the video its the second time in the round pen.
bellestarr71 2 years ago
one time when i was doing ground work with a old horse she stopped and just started walking to me. then she kinda gave me a hug. lol
gottoride3 2 years ago
how long is each lesson and for how many days does it usually take??
ralice312 2 years ago
Round pen sessions can last from 10 minutes to an hour or more, depending on what I'm doing... the average for Sundance was about 30 minutes per session. I only made sure she was calmer at the end than when I started, no matter what we were working on. If I did it every day, it would have taken about 2-3 weeks, but I worked with her once or twice a week, so it took longer. Each horse is different, so I keep it flexible and don't put a time limit on anything. Thanks for your question!
AeronRiding 2 years ago
ok, cool. thank you so much!
ralice312 2 years ago
oh and does it matter how big the round pen is? mine is really small-like if you were to go 2 feet into the middle then look at big it would be in a circle from there, thats how big mine is...
ralice312 2 years ago
When you ask a horse to come into you, do you lower your eyes as well?
cathrynxox 3 years ago
if you look at your horse directly it considers it a challenge and could potentially make him react by charging- you wanna look down and use your peripheral vision to approach in a non threatening manner.
Evalani22 3 years ago
No, I don't lower my eyes, for safety reasons. I need to be looking at the horse to see any clues about behavior and attitude. Taking your eyes off your horse can be unsafe, as you may miss an important signal from your horse. Your body language is sufficient to convey your wishes to your horse, including the "come here" cue. Thanks for asking!
AeronRiding 2 years ago
plus if you lower your eyes, thats like submitting to your horse, and you don't want that if your trying to be alpha. you stand your ground look them in the eye, and maybe even take a step forward. My friend just got 2 new horses and I've gone and watched our trainer train them the past few days. I ride at a stable that practices *almost* natural horsemanship. we don't use saddles or bits, but we also don't let our horse be alpha over us. But everyone has their own way of training.
OuranFan6 2 years ago
correction, its not *almost* natural horsemanship, its a blend of training techniques derived from Monty Roberts, Pat Parelli, John Lyons and other well known trainers.
OuranFan6 2 years ago
Love the pony that at 3:40 comes up like.. what's up, guys?
karatemomma 3 years ago
great video!
stinahumana 3 years ago
This is just FANTASTIC training, so very helpful and descriptive. The filly is very lucky to have you as a trainer! Thanks so much for sharing, like another one said, I'm sure this will come in handy for me someday.
britnieann 3 years ago
Thanks!!! : )
AeronRiding 3 years ago
Remember, not only was this filly NOT halter broken, she had been scared in the past and was now very fearful of humans and getting caught. Normally this stage would progress much faster with a youngster who had been handled regularly.... this filly needed extra time to get over her fears.....
AeronRiding 3 years ago
great work though! you can see its really helping
mlfjasper 3 years ago
one thing: when she looks at you, also you should turn away. because facing her is still putting pressure on her... it may help more
mlfjasper 3 years ago
wow this is wonderful!
thank you so much for sharing this!!
it'll come in real handy one day for me!!!
thanks again!!
greetz
bellabelliboo 3 years ago