History Channel Ancient Greek cities in Italy 1

[tazoz626]

"Greco-Italina, una fatsa, una ratsa" - Greek-Italian, one face, one race.

[pokefan1775]

I'm part Neapolitan, part Chinese, part Turkish, is it true that I could be Greek???

[ELLHN18]

@pokefan1775 You aren't 100% Neapolitan my friend.You're a mix.

[MRshotgun1100]

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[eternalsoul888]

It happens to have Italian relatives at a small village in North Lombardy. Once they told me: We have a local dialect in our village and when we talk other Italians don't understand us, plus no other village around speaks this dialect! Much to my surprise the words they used were Greek with only a slight difference!They were shocked too! They had no idea of this and we were wondering about it! I supposed that maybe their roots come of south of Italy. They jocked at me saying: you 'stole' from us

[Francesko263]

Today the whole city of Neaples is the scum city of Italy. Underdeveolped, poor, dirty...

[mulatto321]

I have nothing against Greek people; their contribution is undeniable to southern Italy, but that was an extreme statement!

[1PRESIDENTE]

Hmmm..... Normans, Spaniards and Bourbons didn't settle southern Italy in large numbers only the elite were made up of these various people.

The romans whom were culturally close to the greeks controlled it, sure that is undeniable but it reverted back to greek control under the Byzantine Greeks in what was known as the Catepante of Italy.

It's because of this history you see the common regional surname Greco (which means greek) in the south and central southern part of Italy.

[mulatto321]

A study brought out in the New York Times, conducted from Manfed Kayser, a geneticist from Amsterdam studied Italian populations residing in Naples and found that Neapolitans were closely related to the Spanish, French, Romanian and Portuguese. The same came close to Greeks, but did not even overlap. The Greek element of Neapolitans is not as large as you think or this says.

[1PRESIDENTE]

Doesn't seem like a sound study, seems like politics seeped in for the simple reason French have in admixture of Celt (gauls) with a roman element along with the Germanic franks, this is the reason why northern Italians

despise central and southern Italians.

Northern Italians say they have more of a European look, I know this because I have friends whom are members of Lega Nord, look them up on google.

[mulatto321]

How is it not a sound study...many other studies corraborate this one! Just because it does not agree with the statement in this video does not mean that it is not true. The dislike for southern Italians is not racial but economic; in southern italy there is coruption and rural based living. Greeks are European too are they not, so for northern Italians to say that is baseless. The majority of big cities in Italy has southern Italian majorities due to internal migration so this is not true.

[mulatto321]

Many people voting Lega Nord too are southern Italians living in northern Italian cities. Also Lega Nord has shifted it's focus from succession from united Italy to illegal migrants. The differences between northern and southern Italians have been vastly exaggerated. The study by Manfred Kayser and many others show that northern and southern Italians are related to each other and that all Europeans from Poles to Spaniards, are related to each other with only MINOR differences.

[mulatto321]

According to PubMed, there is a 7 - 22% Greek admixture among various southern Italian populations.

The Greek influence in southern Italy, I will repeat is quite significant, but not at all the majority!

[1PRESIDENTE]

The study you mention actually splits Italy into 1 and 2, not to mention that it wasn't a regional I.E. central and southern Italy, but an average of the total population.

Check out the Grecano or Griko they're still greeks who've retain the language that was once dominant.

[mulatto321]

Not true...central Italian regions such as Toscana, Marche, and Umbria also have Lega Nord candidates as these are central Italian regions that happen to be wealthy as well...of course they would not include Lazio which is also central Italy because that is the region where Rome is located. The Lega Nord are ridiculous...Germanic admixture is present in many northern Italians but at the same time they are still essentially Roman.

[1PRESIDENTE]

Lega Nord has a new enemy, blacks from Africa, if you may recall, So it's making more sense to reach out to regions they formerly had contempt for.

[mulatto321]

Which is exaclty why Lega Nord has shifted their focus from succession of Italy, to immigrants. The tone of splitting Italy in half has died down. It seems that even the Milanese are worried about illegal migrants washing up on Sicilian shores...

[mulatto321]

I'm sorry but the statement that the majority of Naples inhabitants as Greek is wrong. Manfed Kayser, a geneticist from Amsterdam studied Italian populations residing near the city of Naples and found that Neapolitans were closely related to the Spanish, French, Romanian and Portuguese...sure the Greeks settled Naples in large numbers but so did Italic tribes, Romans, Normans, Spanish and Bourbons!

[ELLHN18]

i don't think so my friend!!Neapolitans were Greek people

[mulatto321]

Ok, but according to Manfred Kayser, a Dutch geneticist who studied samples of Neapolitans, he found that the majority of Neapolitans were related to French, Portuguese and Spanish people. If you type in Europe Genetic Map NY Times Manfred Kayser in Google you will see the study yourself. I am not denying that the Greek element is there but it is distant and has changed to a more Latin element now, particularly after Roman and Norman conquest!

[BlitzoftheReich]

@ELLHN18 not anymore. Ever since the 18th century it has largely been mixed with Spaniard peoples too.

[1PRESIDENTE]

Yes Greeks are definitely European but

Northern Italians consider themselves Nordic Europeans as opposed to Mediterranean Europeans, do to the influx of Germanic Lombards after the collapse of Byzantine Italy with the exception of a few Byzantine strongholds in Venice and Ravenna.

They have a saying in Lombardy "We are more European than Italian" and We are closer (culturally) to Zurich than we are to Rome.

[mulatto321]

Wow and you actually believe that saying in Lombardy...that is pure propaganda. First of all the vast majority of Lombards do not say they are Nordic...I hear more Sicilians telling me they are "Normani" (Norman), than northerners telling me they are Nordic...I have lived in Calabria, Torino and Milano and everyone pretty much calls themselves Italian and rightfully so because they all are. Differences are sooo exaggerated!!!!

[1PRESIDENTE]

I'm not surprise, Sicilians are always put in the defensive with people calling them blacks and all.

They use to say it in Milano until it became a multi-ethnic cesspool you see today as with most of Europe, I'm afraid.

You're Black, people are going to be more discreet to you.

[1PRESIDENTE]

Roman?? Etruscans (whom came from Asia Minor according to the Romans) were living in Northern Italy, just because the Romans occupied it doesn't make them ethnically Roman, The Etruscans BTW were given Roman citizenship fairly quickly as were the Greeks of Magna Grecia.

[mulatto321]

Etruscans were living in central Italy and Emilia...and again, the Romans are an Italic tribes just like the Picenum and Sabines and others who occupied central Italy as well!

[1PRESIDENTE]

According to Porcius Cato and Gaius Sempronius

the Sabines were ethnic Greeks.

Etruscans weren't Italic though.

[mulatto321]

Never said the Etruscans were...the Sabines origins are still contested...they shared a language and similar features to that of the Umbri, Oscans and Brutti inhabitants of central and southern Italy. I will say this again...the Greek influence is southern Italy is there...it is just no as pronounced as this film says it is...and most of the world sees me as mixed race, considering that I dont look that Black!

[1PRESIDENTE]

Were you there to know they had the same features??? early roman historians were like Porcius Cato and Gaius Sempronius.

[mulatto321]

Listen I have nothing against the Greeks; they are a beautiful people and I am proud of the fact that they stood up to Ottomans in comparison to the weak Albanians and Macedonians...I just dont believe the Greek presence in Italy was the strong; its there tho, and a study suggests that there is a mere 25 percent genetic difference between northern and southern Italians meaning that they are a close population with minor differences; Greek perhaps...lol!!!

[mulatto321]

Um I dont need to google Griko because I know about them already...with similar features, I meant civility and culture...not looks...i dont have to be there to know that early Italic tribes borrowed from each other as well as the Greeks!

[normannodelsud]

being relatives of the Greek of the antiquity it is not badly at all? Alexander, Ulisse and others are also our relatives... if you ago pleasure also the Celtic Brenno was an Italian and they has become Italian also a great deal of Germans come in Italy to the time of the barbaric invasions, they have gone to England the Germans, because they didn't have to also come in Italy considering that from us he eats better and he lives better that in that lost island in the Atlantic.

[ElectraofMaced0n]

@mulatto321 just for he record...Syracuses had 500000 Greeks living there during ancient times ONLY....

[SirGeorge8600]

@1PRESIDENTE Yes, but how would they know? Were they geneticists?

[1PRESIDENTE]

Why did they split Italy into 1 and 2 in the study you mentioned???.

[TwoTimeTommy]

@mulatto321 I couldn't agree more!!!

[mulatto321]

Yes I am of Italian, Black Jamaican, Native Jamaican Indian and British Isles origin...so what!

[zigsauer]

Booyakasha !

[TwoTimeTommy]

@1PRESIDENTE I don't feel like getting into specifics but as this other gent says...that is sheer propaganda...the bloodlines of the majority of Italians is predominantly those of Italic origins..PERIOD!!! No arabs, blacks, or fucking barbarians...If I have to hear this Nordic garbage again my head may explode...fucking A you people are the biggest leeches,have to try and take credit for every advanced civilization because of your lack of innovation and creativity Germanic Nordics= subhuman shit

[Psy0pAgent]

@mulatto321 Funny how that geneticist failed to reveal that ALL humans are related no further than 50th cousin.

[Mellisa582010]

@mulatto321

My family comes from a small town called Agropoli just down the coast... my grandmother said we were originally Greeks - swore it. My mother passed all the myths and legends on to me, and their Greek origins can not be doubted. Now, may there be mixture? Sure,and remember, all those peoples you mentioned were once members in the greater Roman Empire. But we southern Italians have a strong sense of our Greek origins, even now.

[HistoryCollaborative]

@mulatto321 Since the founding they have, as you stated, been mixed with lots of different people but it was a Greek city when founded and maintained a great degree of it's Greek culture through time. The migrants will have settled sporadically and moved to the city slowly. In this way thy will have taken on much of the existing culture rather than imposing their own, allowing it to remain a greek city for a long time.

[Addman711]

@mulatto321 no greeks settled in southern italy before rome conquered it

[Arhs77]

@mulatto321 Napoli is a city founded by Greeks for Greeks when Manfred Kayser did his reserch there could have been some mixing with other people, but in France there is another Greek city now called Marsails and there were Greek colonys in todays Spain and Portugal