I wonder how they get it down from there, You'd think on that much of an incline, when you took it back down you'd expose the crownsheet. Unless they backed it down that is.
it's incredible how little horsepower this massive things. wonder what the torque was though. really wish we still used steam to this degree today. imagine how awesome it'd be with modern technology ^_^
@thedefinitive Its pretty easy to figure out the torque. Torque = 5252 x HP / Speed. This is a 40HP Case engine (Although that rated HP is less than what it can actually produce) it ran at a top speed of 150 RPM which means Torque = 1400 Ft. Lbs. Quite a bit. Today, most power plants are steam driven but instead of piston engines like this, they are turbine engines which run at a much higher efficiency. Sometimes as high as 40% which is better than today's car engines.
@blibbax 5252 is a conversion factor. When James Watt decided upon a "horsepower" being 33,000 foot pounds per minute, he had to add that to make it come out equal. Otherwise Torque*RPM would be a measurement of power, just not in horsepower units. Just like how if you want to turn inches into centimeters, you divide by 2.54.
@hartparr thats why I love my steamers....they have been around sence the greeks build the frist out of wood and bronze...for a few hundred years now steam engines have had a 40 to 50% eff. and with all this techno crap we ant get over 25% with gas and diesel. Hell I have a 90 ford ranger that is running of a impact wrench at 80 psi liked to rear axle via 4" chunk-o-driveline I have 650 lbs of torque to work with and now no trany or engine wieght...yey for rednecking
horsepower is a stupid measure of power.. if you took a car with several hundred Hp, geared it down and weighted it the same as that tractor, i guarantee that the tractor would win tug-o-war still
@gunny556fly then, how do you explain engines like this with nearly no hp but loads of torque...same thing for diesels they got lots more torque than hp....gas engines are the other way around normally more hp than torque..
Jeez, didn't either of you go to school, power = torque x angular speed, wich means power= torque x rpm x 2 x pi/60. In Imperial units the formula gets a bit diferent but the principle is the same.
A 40HP high rpm engine can be geared down to be a high torque engine, and a 40HP high torque engine can be geared up to be a high rpm engine. In the end, HP is what matters. If this steam engine would be geared to go as fast as a 40HP car, it would have the same low torque.
first of all i meant restore as in get running and bring back to original shape, rebuilding would mean repairing the engine which is part of restoring an engine and let me quote here "its a shame now it dosent do anything put sit and collect dust in his barn,"
which means that it is not running currently its stored not to mention they said that it had problems so there you go
Another thing to remember, all Case steamers were rated under the actual HP by about ten percent, so actually, on the Brake, this one would be about 44hp.
a family friend of mine had one just like this and when he was at the fair startin it up, it blew up, he was killed along with a little girl, my gradpa also had one, after he pasted away he left it to my unkle and it has the same problem as my friends who blew up, its a shame now it dosent do anything put sit and collect dust in his barn, we used to ride it around when the whole family got togther, its a real shame
theres no way my family would let it go. that thing was my grandpas pride and joy. we have a big family somewhere along the line someone will restore it
Beautiful antiques! Similar vapor
sss95065 6 days ago
case built em good
purcellm100 1 month ago
RESPECT
simsons51racer 2 months ago
@hartparr
Actuly not 150 rpms it is 250 rpms, some of the larger engines would run 230-240 and some portables were 100-200 it depends on the engine
caserules1 4 months ago
I wonder how they get it down from there, You'd think on that much of an incline, when you took it back down you'd expose the crownsheet. Unless they backed it down that is.
jrkepler 8 months ago
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glad to see its still here and alive.
fireburst102 11 months ago
getting up is easy getting down is the hardest
GWR4079 11 months ago
how old is that thing? really awesome
eroc2689 1 year ago
@eroc2689 Its a 40 HP Case, probably manufactured around 1915.
hartparr 1 year ago 2
@hartparr nah, those things were made around 1906
RRboyLEGOboy 3 months ago
my grandfather has a Steam car its beautiful.
GayBoyRunning 1 year ago
I LOVE WMSTR LIFE TIME MEMBERS
WSEairsoft 1 year ago
lets see a modern tractor do that!
pennyf9 1 year ago
it's incredible how little horsepower this massive things. wonder what the torque was though. really wish we still used steam to this degree today. imagine how awesome it'd be with modern technology ^_^
thedefinitive 1 year ago 7
@thedefinitive Its pretty easy to figure out the torque. Torque = 5252 x HP / Speed. This is a 40HP Case engine (Although that rated HP is less than what it can actually produce) it ran at a top speed of 150 RPM which means Torque = 1400 Ft. Lbs. Quite a bit. Today, most power plants are steam driven but instead of piston engines like this, they are turbine engines which run at a much higher efficiency. Sometimes as high as 40% which is better than today's car engines.
hartparr 1 year ago 4
@hartparr thanks for the education ^_^
thedefinitive 1 year ago
@hartparr people say these are bad for the air because they can SEE the smoke but a car motor is alot worse so why dont we go back to steam?
metaldetectorguy 1 year ago
@metaldetectorguy i know stupid hippies, thinking gas is better than steam,
pennyf9 1 year ago
@hartparr Where did you get 5252 from?
blibbax 9 months ago
@blibbax 5252 is a conversion factor. When James Watt decided upon a "horsepower" being 33,000 foot pounds per minute, he had to add that to make it come out equal. Otherwise Torque*RPM would be a measurement of power, just not in horsepower units. Just like how if you want to turn inches into centimeters, you divide by 2.54.
viperman5686 8 months ago
@hartparr thats why I love my steamers....they have been around sence the greeks build the frist out of wood and bronze...for a few hundred years now steam engines have had a 40 to 50% eff. and with all this techno crap we ant get over 25% with gas and diesel. Hell I have a 90 ford ranger that is running of a impact wrench at 80 psi liked to rear axle via 4" chunk-o-driveline I have 650 lbs of torque to work with and now no trany or engine wieght...yey for rednecking
wowlooktv 4 months ago
@thedefinitive In Europe they're building modern steam locomotives. Check out the 60163 Tornado in England, it's all modern technology.
KenMacMillan 1 year ago
@KenMacMillan That's amazing. I'd love for it to catch on more
thedefinitive 1 year ago
@KenMacMillan wish they did that here in the USA
metaldetectorguy 1 year ago
@metaldetectorguy Me too, I'd be happy if they just bought one & brought it over.
KenMacMillan 1 year ago
horsepower is a stupid measure of power.. if you took a car with several hundred Hp, geared it down and weighted it the same as that tractor, i guarantee that the tractor would win tug-o-war still
datawraith3080 1 year ago
a normal car can struggle up a hill start like that, and that has 40hp.
toyotaprius79 1 year ago
If Gasoline, Petrol & Diesel run out we can allways go back to good ol' reliable steam!
CoolDudeClem 1 year ago
Imagine that thing rolling over!
1DanielChristensen 1 year ago
Massive torque.
dunnodontcare93 2 years ago
wooooo thats NICE!!!
i like how those old machines still work perfectly
Tr0XX4r 2 years ago 2
yep only 40hp but 40hp of pure torque
gunny556fly 2 years ago
@gunny556fly lol horse power and torque are 2 different things
VentoDriver 1 year ago
@VentoDriver
your wrong how do you get torque with an engine? answer is horsepower!
gunny556fly 1 year ago
@gunny556fly then, how do you explain engines like this with nearly no hp but loads of torque...same thing for diesels they got lots more torque than hp....gas engines are the other way around normally more hp than torque..
VentoDriver 1 year ago
@VentoDriver
ok ok! you got me! imstuck at this point!
gunny556fly 1 year ago
@VentoDriver
Jeez, didn't either of you go to school, power = torque x angular speed, wich means power= torque x rpm x 2 x pi/60. In Imperial units the formula gets a bit diferent but the principle is the same.
A 40HP high rpm engine can be geared down to be a high torque engine, and a 40HP high torque engine can be geared up to be a high rpm engine. In the end, HP is what matters. If this steam engine would be geared to go as fast as a 40HP car, it would have the same low torque.
slome815 1 year ago
@gunny556fly torque is the power, hp is the rate at which the power is used.
Horse power doesn't mean shit with out torque.
BillTheTractorMan 1 year ago
@BillTheTractorMan
sigh okay!!! that was 4 months ago!
gunny556fly 1 year ago
first of all i meant restore as in get running and bring back to original shape, rebuilding would mean repairing the engine which is part of restoring an engine and let me quote here "its a shame now it dosent do anything put sit and collect dust in his barn,"
which means that it is not running currently its stored not to mention they said that it had problems so there you go
countryboysteve 2 years ago
LOVE THIS!!
hdiylove 2 years ago
Steam power baby!!
GuyPyro87 2 years ago 19
Good video. Check out the video...
25th Annual Jim Monaghen Antique Engine show 2008 on youtube. You will like it. :)
Libertytreeradio 2 years ago
impressive
lolcomentriter 3 years ago
i love these tractors! they are old, but wonderful!
Alex119885 3 years ago 3
Americana
jst2k09 2 years ago
Thing is tho, isnt 40hp bout 5 or 6 nhp? cos if so then most of the british engines are more powerful than the colonials
AxisHome1 3 years ago
40 is low-midrange by American standards. Multiple manufacturers produced engines 3 and 4 times as powerful.
caterpillarnut 2 years ago
Another thing to remember, all Case steamers were rated under the actual HP by about ten percent, so actually, on the Brake, this one would be about 44hp.
phoenix15477 2 years ago
a family friend of mine had one just like this and when he was at the fair startin it up, it blew up, he was killed along with a little girl, my gradpa also had one, after he pasted away he left it to my unkle and it has the same problem as my friends who blew up, its a shame now it dosent do anything put sit and collect dust in his barn, we used to ride it around when the whole family got togther, its a real shame
02nagel 3 years ago 2
what kind of engine is it and would he be interested in selling it so that it could be restored
countryboysteve 2 years ago
theres no way my family would let it go. that thing was my grandpas pride and joy. we have a big family somewhere along the line someone will restore it
02nagel 2 years ago
it wasn't going to fall back....he was easing it up there. lol
GoldsLifter 3 years ago 2
Cool but it must have been pretty tough backing the engine back down the ramp.
SR722 3 years ago 3
you know it
SR722 3 years ago
defenetly the doggest looking steam engines
bohemianlikeu11 3 years ago
"J.I. Case engines are the only true hill climbers"
caterpillarnut 3 years ago 2
Dangerous! They'll do it ever year until one gets away and wipes out a bunch of folks.
zeophoto 4 years ago
it looked like it was gonna fall back a couple times
T3hbassmasta 3 years ago
Yeah, but it's still pretty neat.
zeophoto 3 years ago 2
That's why they keep it clear behind the engine - everything does not need to be labeled "dangerous" that people are ignorant of.
markbert1929 3 years ago 11
hahah, id like to see a grey fergie try that!!
veyron2008 4 years ago
Want one!
1singlet 4 years ago 2
THANKS,I ENJOYED THAT!
Deere410 4 years ago 2
That's really cool, thanks for sharing
Timinator62 5 years ago