OOOH THANKS VERY MUCH FOR COMING ON TONIGHT... WE DONT WANT OYU TO SAY TOO MUCH NOW DO WE? NOW IF THE WHOLE 911 WAS TRUE AS THEY SAID THEN WHY DO THEY NOT LET THIS GUY FINISH? ITS STINKS...... WAKE UP AMERICA!
ollie says he had jobs in gov. yes he was a paid murderer for rothschilds. osama never admitted to that.....that is a lie.....research it. watch....MOSSAD CAUGHT IN VAN ON 9-11 "FILLED WITH EXPLOSIVES" GW BRIDGE. don't be chicken, just watch it and learn about who did it.
can't you see this zio-puke. that's right zio-puke. hey, they did this to us....they've tried to and succeeded so far, thanks to our british agent congress and pres and fbi and cia. these people dance to the criminal queen and rothschilds tune. alan combs is a traitor just like the rest.
How the fuck is that interviewer even allowed on that bullshit channel, lets ask the same inane question over and over again to confuse the issue. Take your glasses off, clean them and maybe you'll see better after. Disgraceful.
Oliver North, you gotta be kidding! It blows me away to see people like him with his history to sit there and act shocked that the government would even think about doing something this evil, these people on Fox are beyond delusional!
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Why did Scholars for 911 Truth split into two groups?
Since the govt. committed 9/11, why arent truthers demanding the release of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is on trial for his life for a crime truthers claim he did not commit?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
The idea that Cheney would order the plane NOT shot down as part of a conspiracy is just too good an idea to not believe, but the reason they didn't want THAT plane shot down was it was over extremely populated areas & if it was heading for the Capitol Building or the White House those buildings had been largely evacuated. As heinous and depraved as Cheney is, this conspiracy theory is just pandering to the paranoid, nervous minds. Al-Qaeda did it, the SAID they were gonna do it on 60 minutes...
no paranoid my friend this was told by the one military under cheney. he gave this testimony. in the history of the military of the US it was the first time the vice president was in charge of the air force. he almost took that power by force. read some more!
@theytoookourjobs Because the "security risk" posed by allowing terrorists to see how vulnerable the pentagon is made the "security experts" nervous, so the footage is classified. It's stupid & pointless, but that's what our military specializes in, stupid & pointless policies & activities. They even classified the names of pentagon employees killed in the attack. They couldn't control that, but they did it just out of reflex, like robots. Military Intelligence is still an oxymoron.
@KingKook Are you serious? I mean are you freakin serious. They were worried because it was over extremely populated areas and that's why they didn't shoot it down! You need to wa.. Why do we bother, someone tell me why we bother trying to convince these sheep that the government is evil and doesn't care about them and that they will do anything and everything to maintain and build their power and wealth! Children, that's what they are just little children who want to believe in Santa Claus!
Suppose we simply take expert to mean "someone incredulous who requires evidence and draws conclusions therefrom", as opposed to one who never genuinely considers the strange facts around 9/11. The suspension of physics on no fewer than 3 occasions (the 3 towers 'falling), the disappearance of the various CCTV cameras with video of the Pentagon strike and such.
@CodiferL Well, then there are a whole lot of individuals who would consider themselves, "experts". By your definition, that's actually just a critical thinker. Individuals are experts in certain fields, and it gives them a level of credibility when discussing that specific field. This comes into play big time in the court of law. If your presenting forensic evidence to a jury, your not going to have a mathematics expert as your witness. It would of course be a forensics expert, who would be....
a more credible witness for that specific field of information. So if we apply that to 9/11, the 9/11 Scholars have 1 engineer and maybe 2 or 3 individuals who may or may not have some knowledge in the collapse of buildings. With this being said, the NIST employs 2,900 scientists, engineers, and technicians, and has multiple out-sourcing firms for additional expertise which they may not have. So yes, the NIST has the credibility and the information they release, would be a credible source.
@BrandonPumel NIST? A government agency investigating high treason military precision covert acts that goes right up to the office of the president and we are suppose to trust and believe that they will be completely unbiased and fair in their investigation, are you off your rocker, that's like getting the SS to investigate the German Reichstag fire, wink wink. The absolute ignorance with some people about 911 is absolute frightening, there like little children!
@Allanlegacy43 NIST was the most qualified organization to investigate 9/11. You make it sound like NIST is made up of a couple scientists w/ personal connections to Bush. NIST is one of the most credible organizations we have. They employ around 2,900 scientists, engineers, and technicians. They have 1,800 associates from foreign countries and other credible American companies. Not to mention, were not the only ones investigating. For example: Purdue University's research team published a....
@BrandonPumel study of their own, that looked into the reason the towers collapse. They had no knowledge of NIST's research because it would obviously affect their final conclusions. The researchers at Purdue University came to the exact same conclusion as NIST, for the reason of collapse. This wasn't some half ass investigation that ignored scientific requirements. NIST wasn't just assigned to investigate and never questioned. The scientific community has praised NIST's investigation from day 1
Created a faculty of EXPERTS? Not even close. Just because your a professor in a certain field doesn't make you an expert in EVERY field. For instance, if you got your PhD in Mathematics, that doesn't qualify you to teach English. The same rules apply to YOU fat boy, and that goes for all your so called "EXPERTS". Here's a hint, don't put your members ACTUAL fields of study on your website. It just makes you look dumb.
Well Mr. North, how many people were involved in getting drugs from south america and shipping them to California for money used to illegally fund the contras? Certainly more than 100.
@Daddyo930 Show me where you got your facts about 150 cameras pointing at the pentagon 24-7. Thats right, you cant. You just make up facts to appear smarter than you are. Typical troll.
@flute1234 ok, maybe not 150, but I know of 85 tapes that are being withheld. You can google that fact or file a freedom of information request with the FBI and ask them. Not much info coming from them lately. You can quit the name calling or I wont bother responding.
@flute1234 Did you google the missing tapes? There should at least be a couple that would show what hit the pentagon. That's a fair question. All I am asking is for some questions to be answered. I served my time in the military and I think that every person on the planet has the right to ask questions. That sounds fair right?
@Daddyo930 We are on the same side. I want asnwers to those questions as well. That is what i have been arguing. Their refusal to answer such easy questions just shows their coverups. So i think your comments should be directed towards the other person i was aruging with.
@flute1234 Then I am truly sorry my friend. Most of my family has served in the military. I served in the military. My mother was even in the Coast Guard. We are deeply divided in my house. Let us now turn our attention to those that wish to obscure the truth. You should never resort to demeaning people or insulting them in any way. A real man stands on his merit and makes no excuses for his shortcomings.
@Daddyo930 I think you should take your own advice. You attacked me first then you got it dished back to you. A true apology doesnt come with "buts" which you just displayed.
@jackiesglitter Quiet down. Im the one saying it was an inside job. This other moron is just full of blatent lies which i dont appreciate. If you dont like my comments dont read them.
Like i said show me "real" websites that say that. I already showed you legitimate ones that say you are wrong. So stop talkign and start showing. Nevermind what 1 reporter said reporter ALL of our news stations say otherwise. And we have tropps dying in iraq as well. So go tell the families of the canadian troops that lost their son or daughter in iraq that they werent really there. Ignorant fuck. Now what can you possibly say? And no, noone knows how many cameras are at the pentagon.
@flute1234 There are over 150 cameras pointed at the pentagon 24-7. Thats how many. Many of the videos have been confiscated by the FBI and remain unreleased. What are they trying not to let everyone see.
@Daddyo930 I know. They cant give me the BS about only having one useable video shot. If they wanted to show and make the U.S population happy they would have released at least the Sheraton Hotel footage that would have shown what hit the pentagon clearly.
@flute1234 You can advance your argument without using profanity. Those soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan who are dying are dying for nothing. You know this. Stop pushing the question aside by asserting that no one knows how many cameras were pointed at at the pentagon. Why hasn't the government released more videos that would show what hit the pentagon? We can argue endlessly about how many cameras there were. Keep your profanity to yourself if you want to be recognized as a human.
@Daddyo930 What are you going on about? Go read all of my comments before you talk like your some godsend. Ill swear if I like and if you dont like it i urge you not to read my comments or in fact not go on youtube. You are all over the map you enter a debate without knowing what the debate is actually about. Why on earth are you even talking about drugs coming from south america? You pretty much have no place in this debate anymore. You seem like a troll.
Every major news station in Canada including CBS which was where that reporter is from reports on Canada in the iraq war. It was also WORLD NEWS that our special forces, the JTF2 were involved in a high risk rescue of Canadian hostages in Iraq. We hear it all the time in Canada now stfu you obviously know nothing. I dont see you talking about the article you misquoted a few comments ago which i posted what it actualyl said for you which proved you wrong. Why not?
@flute1234--- now are you saying that the CBC reporter and ALL WEBSITES are wrong?? and the pentagon tapes are well known. the FBI released the number of tapes. even most of you "truthers" try and bring this up as "proof" of a cover up. this just shows that you are very misinformed. I expected a lil more, even from a "truther". you are sad dumbass.
@58ravenfan And stop using the same remarks i use in my posts to insult me its getting annoying. Become original you dont need to copy me. Your a unintelligent person who thinks because he googles for 2 mins that hes knowledgeable abotu subjects. You need to go take a nap.
@flute1234---and read my comments, ALL websites say that you are WRONG!! and that CBC reporter SAYS YOU ARE WRONG!! and I use those insults beacuse its funny how you call me names when YOU are cleary wrong!! and OBVIOUSLY i am not retracting my comment about the cammeras. ask any real "truther" and they will tell you about the cammeras. thats how uninformed you are. and I did show you about canada not haveing troops in Iraq. didnt you watch that video where the CBC reporter says it!!??
According to an analysis by the American Thinker's Randall Hoven, the cost of the Iraq war from 2003-2008 -- when Bush was in office -- was $20 billion less than the cost of education spending and less than a quarter of the cost of Medicare spending during that same period.
STIGLITZ was a Clinton Admin staffer. It's on the bottom of the editorial piece you are JUST NOW reading, so apparently you don't get it's a Clinton revenge piece.
Congressional Budget Office numbers show that the total cost of the eight-year war was less than the stimulus bill passed by the Democratic-led Congress in 2009.
According to CBO numbers (Congressional Budget office), the total cost of operation Iraqi Freedom over 8 years was $709 billion for military and related activities, including training of Iraqi forces and diplomatic operations.
The projected cost of the stimulus, passed in February 2009, and is for two years, was $862 billion.
Writing in these pages in early 2008, we put the total cost to the United States of the Iraq war at $3 trillion. This price tag dwarfed previous estimates, including the Bush administration's 2003 projections of a $50 billion to $60 billion war.
Like I thought, it's an op ed piece, its throwing EVERY cost possible into the war, and it's a total bullshit editorial. You did NOT even read this article, did you?
They have been in Chicago longer, and it still has a death rate that is larger than Iraq and Afghanistan and Iraq COMBINED.
The Massive military, which is smaller than any military fielded since World War I, and was smaller as a Percentage of GDP than Woodrow wilson's America, doesn't have to win a victory. They are a demonstration of FREEDOM, and even South Vietnam remembers that. That's why at my age, 20 year old Vietnamese girls begged to come to america with me.
@Merlin5x5 A demonstration of freedom? Tell the familes of the fallen soldiers they died for just a demonstration you ignorant fuck. How can you even compare policing in Chicago to war in Iraq? What kind of weird retarded thinking do you have? This war has cost the U.S more than any war in history dont try to say otherwise. Bush has single handedly ruined your once great country. He and Obama have no put you so far in debt that you will not get out of it.
@Merlin5x5 REad my previous comment. And the read my other comments. I dont like Bush and he was the worst president in U.S history. Fact. You are right George bush did change the world. He ruined it. Im not defending other countries. Where do you even get this shit from? Whats right is right. Dont care abotu the U.s becaseu im not from the U.S im from a country who doesnt bully and is liked by the world. Unlike the U.S which is hated by most for obvious reasons.
Well, then FUCK YOU, Dumbshit. George Bush is obviously changing the world, and the Bush Doctrine is changing the middle east after only 9 years. In the end, who will remember YOU?
You will die as an impotent screaming bitch, and he will have a library, a carrier like his Dad, and a major chapter of world history.
And all that 1960s left wing, populist, I'm the people and you are not CRAP, will be in the same coffin you will be rotting in.
@Merlin5x5 It wont let me post the websites so go to wikipedia and type in "Financial cost of the Iraw War" . and then go to google and type in " Iraw war total cost. The second website is fr omthe washington post. So no, i didnt misquote anything for my gain. But good try.
@Merlin5x5 They will remember Bush as the worst president in U,S history. And they will remember him because he is hated by majority of the world. You are jsut resorting to insults now because you have lost this arguement over and over again. Dont comment if you dont have anyhting truthful or factual to say.
@Merlin5x5 Read the article. The quote you just posted proved my point. Thank you. Now read this quote from the former head of the world bank as well." Stiglitz, former chief economist of the World Bank and winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics, has stated the total costs of the Iraq War on the US economy will be three trillion dollars in a moderate scenario, and possibly more in the most recent published study, published in March 2008" ITS YOU WHO NEEDS TO READ AND LEARN.
@Merlin5x5 Now lets show the next line that you left ou of that article "But today, as the United States ends combat in Iraq, it appears that our $3 trillion estimate (which accounted for both government expenses and the war's broader impact on the U.S. economy) was, if anything, too low."
Funny how you said im doign that but really its only you doing it.
@Merlin5x5 You must feel really silly at this point. Youve lied all through your argurments and have tried to say i manipulate facts when i jsut clearly showed you are the one doing it.
@Merlin5x5 Clinton administration? Clinton wasnt in office for this war. And my last 3 comments jsut showed how you manipulate things and make things up but you got caught.
Stiglitz, former chief economist of the World Bank and winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics, has stated the total costs of the Iraq War on the US economy will be three trillion dollars in a moderate scenario, and possibly more in the most recent published study, published in March 2008. Stiglitz has stated: "The figure we arrive at is more than $3 trillion. Our calculations are based on conservative assumptions.
@Merlin5x5 Now times that by 10 years and add other costs for health care and rebuildings and you get in the trillions. Look the World banks and former clinton admins say it so jsut open your eyes a bit.
@Merlin5x5 Now tell me what has the iraq war done for the U.S people? I can tell you that majority of the world no longer likes the U.S. I can tell you its put a huge dent in your economy. I can tell you that its given Halliburton alot of money. So im wondering what postiive thing the Iraw war has done for you the american cizitzens
@Merlin5x5 I thought so. You cant tell me anyhting. So ill post it again to show more of your stupidity.
Now tell me what has the iraq war done for the U.S people? I can tell you that majority of the world no longer likes the U.S. I can tell you its put a huge dent in your economy. I can tell you that its given Halliburton alot of money. So im wondering what postiive thing the Iraw war has done for you the american cizitzens
@flute1234---- and I think you just made our point for us!! you claim that we went to war for selfish gain. where is this selfish gain!! we went to war to get those who attacked us and Israel. the main gain is as a deterrent to not attack us again!! and why do you keep talking like America is the only on is this war? there were about 45 and 50 countries in this war includeing YOUR country canada!! so enough about how bad you think America is when you are in the same fucking war!!
@58ravenfan So what your saying is the U.S went to war in Iraq because they attacked us and Israel? lol. Iraq had nothing to do with it but Oil interest. And my country is pulling out troops starting in the coming month. I do not agree with them being in Iraq either. And we also did not formally declare war on Iraq. I truley hope you guys open yoru eyes and stand up for yourselves or your govt will be the next Nazi regime.
@flute1234----yes they did fool. you do know that al-qaeda is in iraq too right?? and a lot of there and the talibans allies are there too. the situation is, for the most part, controlled in iraq. that is why we are moving our troops out. and what do you mean "And my country is pulling out troops starting in the coming month." you dont have any troops in iraq. you do in afghanistan. and dont give me that "your gonna be like the NAZIs" BS!! we j\have the right to defend ourselves and our allies!
@58ravenfan Its sad that you can sit here and justify this iraq war. You realize the U.N didnt even agree with this war? And yes Canada has troops in Iraq we jsut havent declared war aganist Iraq. And you are completley blind if you think the situation is controlledi n Iraw. Iraw is the biggewst failure since vietnam. Its taken twice as long as WW2 and even th generals on the ground along with the govt are saying its worse than we thought it would be.
@flute1234--wrong,Canada did not send any troops to iraq.Jean Chrétien announced in Parliament on March 17, 2003 that Canada would NOT participate in the pending invasion.and the U.N may not have agreed to it but 40 some countries did. and the only reason that the iraq war was ONE year longer then WW 2 is beacuse we didnt use our nuke in this war like we did against the japs.do you really think if we didnt nuke the japs they would have given up? hell no. so that war would have been much longer
@flute1234--ONE it wasnt CNN.TWO they are not those GEN.s who said that shit.and YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN.after typing in "Canada and the Iraq War" the very first site said "Jean Chrétien announced in Parliament on March 17, 2003 that Canada would not participate in the pending invasion.Nevertheless, he offered the US and its soldiers his moral support."did you read that??it said WOULD NOT participate. the ONLY canadian troops that are over there are Exchange officers.but canada did NOT send troops
@58ravenfan Wow are you for real? Canada is in Iraq I live in Canada i know people who soldiers who are in Iraq please dont tell me Canada is not in Iraq. And if you really typed that in google the first site that comes up is Wikipedia. Read it. Canada is in Iraq with troops. Shall i give you the names of some Canadian soliders who have died in Iraq? Stop posting your bs fraudulent comments. You havent told he truth in any of them.
@flute1234-and as I said there are canadian troops there but they are Exchange officers.there is not ONE branch of the armed forces of canada in iraq.you ARE WRONG! after typing in "Canada and the Iraq war" a wiki page shows up and here is what it says "Jean Chrétien announced in Parliament on March 17, 2003 that Canada would not participate in the pending invasion. Nevertheless, he offered the US and its soldiers his moral support." and there is even a section called Decision not to participate
@flute1234--and you are wrong again it is a sucsess and the generals on the ground agree.Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, the top U.S. military spokesman in Iraq,declared great successes against insurgents.Gen. Petraeus to Sen. Kennedy “Senator, they are fighting and, as I mentioned, dying for their country in substantial numbers.Their losses, again, are some three times our losses of late.And I might add that the sons of Iraq losses are between two and a half and three times our losses in addition to that
@58ravenfan And stop saying i am wrong when you have no clue what you are talking about. You do that ever comment yet youre full of false information that even a 1 min google serach can find. go type in google
"Canada and the Iraq war". Magically, it says Canada did not formally decalre war on Iraq yet they did send military troops there. So really you need to read before you comment.
@flute1234 CANADA HAS MILITARY TROOPS IN IRAQ. AND YOU DO REALIZE JEAN CHRETIEN HASNT BEEN OUR PRIME MINISTER SINCE 2003? WE HEAR ABOUT IT OUR TRROPS IN IRAQ EVERYDAY ON THE NEWS. SO PLEASE STOP READING ONE ARTICLE THAT WAS DATED 2003 OK?
@58ravenfan And i suggest you read the whole article that you quoted. You seem to have convienently left out this part "Though no declaration of war was issued, the Governor General-in-Council did order the mobilization of a number of Canadian Forces personnel to serve actively in Iraq." which was my original post. We also have our special forces in Iraq to ,the JTF 2, which along with the u.s and other countries made a rescue of Canadian hostages which was reported widely aroudn the world.
@flute1234---- dude you are fool of shit!!! bottom line!!! here is the ONLY troops that canada sent over. "Canada, despite not joining the invading coalition, still participated in the conflict in Iraq, joining a number of non-belligerent nations in helping to rebuild the country post-invasion, including the training of Iraqi police and army officers, and contributing approximately $300 million towards this effort" NO MILITARY ACTION AGAINT IRAQ!! TRY AGAIN BUD!!
@58ravenfan you are a serious retarted moron. First of all why the fuck are you talking about Vietnam? You fuckin idiot. Were talking about Iraq not vietnam. Secondly, i have a friend who is a sniper in Iraq. I hear about Canadians military troops on the news in Canada. So dont come with your stupid quotes that say abosolutely nothign. IVe given you loads of info directly saying WE HAVE TROOPS IN IRAQ. You are one dumb fuckin moron. Like yrou channel, go troll somewhere else , Your misinformed
@flute1234--- there is even a video intitled "Ann Coulter Gets Owned" where a reporter from CBC said " like iraq, canada sent no troops to vietnam". so are you really saying that a news reporter in CANADA knows less about canada than you do?? haha!!! just give up fool!!
@58ravenfan You must feel really stupid getting told every comment you make. Everyone of you comments make no sense and are literraly jsut made up fradulent claims. It is hilarious to read. Come live in Canada and then hear about our troops dying in Iraq then open your lying mouth kid.
@flute1234--- kid?? im 2 years younger than you bud. and OMFG you are retarded!!! ann coulter was asking why did canada not send troops to iraq like they did to vietnam. the reporter from CBC said she was wrong that canada never sent troops to vietnam. and ended that bit by saying "Like Iraq, Canada never sent troops to vietnam".now did you read that!!?? do you really not understand!! ever the reporters IN CANADA say that you are wrong!!! so do some research before opeong that mouth of yours kid
@58ravenfan And the only immature person here is you. Look at your channel You are E fighting with some other kids tellign them to come to your state so you can fight. Grow up you immature child. You are full of false information which has been shown from every single one of your comments. going back 2 weeks now. Heres one example to show how bs you are. PLease tell us how you knwo how many cameras are at the pentagon. You gave us the number im curious how you got such confidential info. Idiot
@flute1234--- and AGAIN you have NO CLUE what you are talking about! those weak ass "truthers" actually threatend to kill me and worldhero. so thats why I said talk is cheap, if you wanna act tough over the internet why not back it up and come to where I live and we shall see how tough you really are. and as I said MANY TIMES canada IS NOT involved in military actions in iraq!!!! ALL sites say this! and did you see that video that I told you to look at?? A CANADIAN REPORTER said you are wrong
@58ravenfan REad my comment again. All of our news channels report on our tropps in the Iraq war. Who are you to say otherwise? Do you watch our news? The pentagon has never and will never release how many cameras are at the pentagon so stop making up bs claims. You said there was at least 85 cameras a few weeks back are yo uretracting yoru statement now ? Show me one reputable site that says Canada does not have military in Iraq. Ill point you the all major sites AGAIN to show you are wrong.
@Merlin5x5 I thought so. You cant tell me anyhting. So ill post it again to show more of your stupidity.
Now tell me what has the iraq war done for the U.S people? I can tell you that majority of the world no longer likes the U.S. I can tell you its put a huge dent in your economy. I can tell you that its given Halliburton alot of money. So im wondering what postiive thing the Iraw war has done for you the american cizitzens
@Merlin5x5 Wow you are so fucked up in thinking its incredible. Education builds people up. War kills people. Back to arguement now. I dont care which staff he was on he was Chief Economist for the World Bank.
Im sure you can figure how to use those links i posted there. IT wont let me send them. ae911truth shows 1450 CD experts that say it was a controlled demolition yet you say they dont say that??? Are you on crack or have you just not read it? And China is democratic and the biggest threat to the U.S. The reason the U.S wont mess with China is because China would destroy the U.S economy completely. The U.S doesnt give a shit about democracy they only care about their interests
@flute1234--- dude you are retarded!!! one the links dont work!! just tell me the title of the video!! two NO there are ZERO CD experts in ae911truth!!! even the founder Richard Gage was force to admit this by Mark Roberts!!! you are LIEING!!! just like you lied about there being a CD expert in "loose change"!! where Mark Roberts also had the creators of that admit to NO CD EXPERT AGREEING WITH THEM!!! and why would we mess with China? they are not threatening us or our allies?
@58ravenfan I cant argue with you. You're completey closed minded which a false information. And the China comment was because the guy said the u.s is in iraw just so they can have democracy lol wow. Thast why i said if they cared so much they should invade China the same way. But they cant. Anyways im done arguing with you. Just hope you open yoru eyes abit so your govt doesnt walk all over you. You can have the last word since thats the type of child you appear to be.
@flute1234---and once again a lil "truther" who has no clue to what they are talking about so they cry and say we are close minded. lol. sad realy. when given so much info that prooves them wrong what do they do? RUN AWAY!!! you have no proof to back you claims. and the China comment is another stupid comment and I noticed that you didnt answer my question about it. why would we attack china? we have no reason!now if you wanna run away instead of debating your claims then fine.
@58ravenfan Ive debated my claims numerous times in the previous posts which i urge anyone to read. Your comments and facts are false and moronic. And since the comment was that the U.S is in iraq because the U.S wants everyon to have democracy. My reply was then go invade China if the u.s only cares abotu democracy. And of course your stupid comment was "why should we?" Because i jsut fuckin told you why. Because you care about democracy so much.
@flute1234--actually you ( and not surprising) are WRONG!! i never said the only reason that we are over there is beacuse we want democracy every where. the MAIN reason we are over there is beacuse the group of people that attacked us hides over there! China has not attacked us or our allies so why bother with them?? everything that I said is true and I even gave sources ( unlike you)to prove that I am right.
@58ravenfan Dont yo uget it im not even talking to you anymore. Your answering replies that im directing at this other guy. Im done talking with you. Your comments are alwasy made up and false.
@flute1234----okay ONE I was replying to a comment you posted towards me!! TWO you have YET to prove me wrong!! is that why you no longer want to debate shit with me?? beacuse you know that your wrong and I call you on your BS!!!??
@58ravenfan Dont walk around the argument. How much more proof do you need when you have the Chief of Counterterrorism at the time of the attacks saying the Govt knew and they failed????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? End of discussion. Ive dont my research your points are shallow and full of emptiness. We are done here. Hopefully you wont grow up to be another lemming.
@flute1234-who is walking around an argument?you take the word of ONE guy WHO GOT FIRED!what else could we have done?we where running lik 100 differant drills in preperation.the problem is we didnt have enought time to prepare!you have NO CD experts to back up your claim that the towers where brought down by CD and NO eye witnesses that say a misle hit the pentagon and NO eye witness who claim that "no plane hit in shanksville"you have NO PROOF to what you are saying.you need to educate yourself
@58ravenfan Go to ae911truth Read front page then tell me again there are NO cd or structural engineers who said it was a controlled demolition. There is almost 1500. Then watch this
youtube.com/watch?v=rUzrHHDu96U&feature=related
youtube.com/watch?v=_gliHOhXYFQ&feature=fvwrel
Now please dotn tell me there were NO eye witnesses. Everyone of yoru comments are useless and full of non facts its hilarious now.
@flute1234--- those two links dont go to anything. what are the names of those videos?? and yes I seen the ae911truth and there are ZERO CD experts that agree with you!!! and by the way there are STRONG elements of democracy in China!! much more than there ever has been!! and YES we do have the right to dictate what another country does!! if there is a threat to us and or allies DUH!!
@Merlin5x5 Proof? Over the past couple of days. Ive given proof go reread before you comment. And now you give me proof. Good luck with your findings.
@Merlin5x5 You obviously have not been to China. And you obviously know nothing about China to much such a stupid statement. China or " The Peoples republic of China" is goverened by 1 party know as the "Communist Party of China" Now go away. Noone listens to misinformed people who think they know everyhitng. If yoru going to try to talk down to me at least dont appear to be an idiot. Get your facts straight and then come back for more.
@Merlin5x5 Why are you talking about Vietnam? We are talkign about China. Never once have we mentioned Vietnam. They border each other but are separate countries. So basically you came back with nothing?
Good for who? The U.S has been going down hill for decades now. Your dollar has lost 60% of its value your debt is in the trillions and gaining extremely fast, your economy is owned largely by Saudis and Chinese. You , despite what you think are at the mercy of everyone else in the world.
@Merlin5x5 You are completely unintelligent. China is communist. You lost this arguement at the beginning of it by saying it isnt communist. You have alot to learn about economics also. The state of the U.S is horrible loo kat debt ratio's and the general deficit and debts for the U.S. Were nto talking about 20 years ago. We are talking about now. China is the nest super power and there is nothign the U.S can do about it but sit back and watch. I hope it doesnt happen to be honest but it will.
LMAO, the last time I looked, the world went from 36 communist countries opposing the US, to 6 countries left. South America went from all Tin Horn Military dictatorships to NONE, Spain, South Korea, Singapore, the Phillipines, all Dictators carefully managed by the US into democracies, and RICHER TOO.
Now it's Egypt, Tunisia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya's turn.
@Merlin5x5 Yet they have been in Iraq and afghanistan for 10 years which is 5 years longer than all of WW2 and they still have not gotten victory there. Such a massive military cant win against people in caves and desert dwellers. Soemthing doesnt make sense. They must want to be there. There is a reason the U.N was against the U.S going into Iraq. I am all for democracy you are makign it sound like i am not. But China is Communist and there is nothing you can say that is factual to argue that.
Just to point out the obvious, that Massive military is flying 1975 Jets, and flying 1962 refueling jets, and the 1952 B-52 is expected to serve for another 20 years, by which time, it will be 70 years old.
Wow, what a massive spending cornucopia. Even the Hughies and Chinooks of the Vietnam war are still serving, and the M1A2 tanks are 40 years old. Stop trying to sell some Bread and Circuses programs to pay the criminal poor, and start actually punishing them.
@Merlin5x5 Are you joking about the spending for the U.S tyranical war? The washington post put the cost of the Iraw war at 3 TRILLION in 2008. Dont come to me with yoru bullshit non facts out of your head. do you realize how much 3 trillion could do for the U.S public? Get some sense.
Sorry, Dumbass, the whole US economy was 13 trillion in 2008, you are probably misquoting the Washington Post, as Twoofer LIARS often do, when they are failingm, they usually pull crap like that out of your ass, here is the GDP chart, look for yourself.
usgovernment spending dot com/fed_us _real_gdp_chart_09_k. html
@Merlin5x5 And you re making it sound like i have communist "ideas". These are facts not my ideas. Go back to school and learn mroe before your talk oldman. Usually, the older yo uare the smarter and more experienced you are but it is obviously not the case here.
blackjerryboymetal, thanks for showing up with the comments on Ollie North,what you don't understand now, will haunt you later. You don't see this picture for what it is,and you fail to see beyond the MSM hype.Everyone has an opinion and I disagree with yours. Go get your info from Michael Savage,he's a real truth teller(HAHAHA) Read a little and maybe you will awake to your reality.
@blackjerryboymetal And little pawn, the questions ive asked are not in the 911 commission report. REad it yyourself before you come back and talk about it. You obviously have not read that either. Have you read anything on this subject? You havent read bush's book or the 911 commission report where are you getting any information from? Thought so. Now go away troll boy
@flute1234-----and yes I know that buildings can not fall at free fall. if you are trying to say that ANY of those buildings fell at free fall you are wrong. would you like to see video evidance of this too? I will show it to you if you like. and by the way NO controlled demolition expert in the WORLD says that the twin towers looked like they where taken down by bombs or thermite.
@flute1234---- where did she lie under oath about the attacks? and dont give me a broken up snip bit of the interview.show the the link to the whole interview where you claim she lied. and this idiot fitzer thinks that some kind of "death ray" device brought the towers down. lol. these are the kind of "scholars" you "troothers" have on your side.
@58ravenfan Condeleeza lied under oath saying they were not aware of any knowledge of imminent attacks against the U.S by "airplanes". The senators questioning her had classified documents that stated otehrwise and they brought it to her attention which she signed herself. I really have no clue where you are getting any of yoru facts from. This is posted alllllll over the internet
@58ravenfan First of all the buildings fell at about 10 seconds which is free fall speed without resistance. You can find that anywhere on the internet. You can even time it yourself if you like. Secondly, im not sure where you pulled out that faulty comment about there being no controlled demolition experts in the WORLD that wsays its wasnt controlled. In fact there are thousands of them. Just google anyhtign about it and youll see petitions from them
@flute1234----okay about Condeleeza I never said she did or did not lie. I never seen the video that you are talking about. I ask you for what video you are talking about. where is the link?? and no thats a flat out LIE! the ONLY CD expert IN THE WORLD that say any of the three buildings fell do to CD was building three. and he wasnt even told about the fires on the other side or how long the where burning or that they where unfought or that the east penthouse collapsed first.
@flute1234-- now obviously if he knew all of this he would have had a differant opinion. and even he said that there was no was that the twin towers where takin down by demolition. so try again bud. and to be technical free fall for those buildings would be 9.22 seconds and they fell at 15 and 20 seconds respectively. the name of the video is "9/11 Debunked: World Trade Center - No Free-Fall Speed" you can time it for your self!
@58ravenfan You have alot to learn. ALOT. Blinded by a corrupt govt who consistently lies to you wow. The rest of the world knows jsut SOME of the americans dont. Typical american ignorance. You have the ideas now go youtube some videos and watch them. Now i guess you think the video of the pentagon was ok and no other cameras caught anything right? Out of the hundreds of cameras in and around the pentagaon including the hotels, the only footage thery give is that piece of junk footage? Hmmm
@flute1234-----okay bud it is YOU who has a lot to learn. I noticed that you didnt even attempt to refute that video that I shown you about the "free fall" BS. nor did you give me a link to Mrs. Rice lieing. nor did you refute the video of Mineta. nor can you find ONE CD expert IN THE WORLD who agrees with you. that is A LOT that you cant even refute so way the hell would any one believe you?
@58ravenfan Look up CSpan Condeleez rice under oath or lliterrally anyhting that has to do with it and many many videos will pop up. Do you need babysitting to? Just look for it itll take you under 20 seconds. You are making up lies calling them facts. ITs quite hilarious. Go watch Loose change and magically youll see and hear CD experts and structural engineers talking about the buildings etc. and that is one video. You obviously dont do any research its completely apparent.
@flute1234----and there were not "hundreds" of cameras there. there were about 85. and only 3 shown the actually crash. one shown just the fire ball because trees where in the way. the other two where very shitty videos. it shows something but it isnt clear. but there are near 100 eye witnesses that say it was a plane!! NO ONE says they seen a missle or anything else!!
@58ravenfan You make me laugh honestly lol. First of all the pentagon doesnt release the amount of cameras they have for security reasons. So dont make up the number 85 like you know. Secondly there is a hotel that caught everything and the fbi confiscated it immediately and never released it. The hotel even showed where the camera was and it was directly facing the spot where the plane crashed. No need to hide a plane crashign into the pentagon since they are telling everyone its a plane.
@flute1234----------- and if you would wtch "screw loose change" you would see that ALL of the sshit that you heard in "loose change" was complete BS!!
@flute1234-CONT...The 84/ 85 figure for videos came about as the result of a FOIA request for videos showing the Pentagon impact. FBI Special Agent Jacqueline Maguire responded with the following point: "...I subsequently searched a series of FBI evidence databases, including the FBI's Electronic Case File system and the FBI's Investigative Case Management System, and determined that the FBI possessed eighty-five (85) videotapes that might be potentially responsive to plaintiff's FOIA request.
@flute1234--CONT...This determination was based on videotapes that had been submitted into FBI evidence, sent directly to the FBI laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, and/or obtained by the FBI's Washington Field Office" The FBI are talking about 85 videos, but this is just the result of an initial search that includes (for example) all videos obtained by the Washington Field Office. If we move on from that then the numbers begin to fall dramatically.
@flute1234---CONT....56 "of these videotapes did not show either the Pentagon building, the Pentagon crash site, or the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon on September 11."
Of the remaining 29 videotapes, 16 "did not show the Pentagon crash site and did not show the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon."
@58ravenfan You can keep commenting but its getting boring now you are entitled to beleive what you want but the latest U.S poll said 60% of americans beelive the govt knew abotu these attacks before hand. Wonder why it changed so much from Sept 11th 2001? Because people had time to reasearch and look at it. Use their own brains instead of just beeliveing a govt who has llied to you consistently and harmed much of the world. Sad state of affairs the U.S is in
@flute1234---CONT..Of the 13 remaining tapes, 12 "only showed the Pentagon after the impact of Flight 77."
Only one tape showed the Pentagon impact: the Pentagon's own security camera footage, that was later be released. so, as I said 85 NOT hundreds. and most of them where from AFTER th crash or didnt even show the pentagon at all.
How did he "win big"? All Fetzer did was throw more false facts around.
brassbonanza97 2 months ago
fox blows goats
kitethesnow 2 months ago
OOOH THANKS VERY MUCH FOR COMING ON TONIGHT... WE DONT WANT OYU TO SAY TOO MUCH NOW DO WE? NOW IF THE WHOLE 911 WAS TRUE AS THEY SAID THEN WHY DO THEY NOT LET THIS GUY FINISH? ITS STINKS...... WAKE UP AMERICA!
jesusfreak1975 4 months ago
LIVING IN A FOX REALITY...
zatoichiable 4 months ago
911 = MOSSAD JOB
Modern day Lavon Affair
donovan93123 4 months ago
FOX news should just go OFF the air , they look sooo dumb , keep paying your taxes like good little Americans
picojohnson 4 months ago
why they took the man to the studio? He barely could explain his point of view.
amazorky 5 months ago
ollie says he had jobs in gov. yes he was a paid murderer for rothschilds. osama never admitted to that.....that is a lie.....research it. watch....MOSSAD CAUGHT IN VAN ON 9-11 "FILLED WITH EXPLOSIVES" GW BRIDGE. don't be chicken, just watch it and learn about who did it.
sssssjjjj1 5 months ago
can't you see this zio-puke. that's right zio-puke. hey, they did this to us....they've tried to and succeeded so far, thanks to our british agent congress and pres and fbi and cia. these people dance to the criminal queen and rothschilds tune. alan combs is a traitor just like the rest.
sssssjjjj1 5 months ago
LOL! You got your facts FOXed. I don't necessarily believe these guys, but that's a great line!
MasonHP 6 months ago
ha ha oliver north interviewing about 911 !! Laughable!!!
Not an interview at all he was doing was tryinging to discredit the professor - when will we get some proper journalism on this subject?!!
HardcoreJungFunk 6 months ago
i want to punch Ollie
tha3immortals 6 months ago
How the fuck is that interviewer even allowed on that bullshit channel, lets ask the same inane question over and over again to confuse the issue. Take your glasses off, clean them and maybe you'll see better after. Disgraceful.
TheRoobs74 6 months ago
Oliver North, you gotta be kidding! It blows me away to see people like him with his history to sit there and act shocked that the government would even think about doing something this evil, these people on Fox are beyond delusional!
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
HE WOOPED THEIR ASS WITH LOGIC FUCK YOU FOX PROPAGANDA
theytoookourjobs 7 months ago
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3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Why did Scholars for 911 Truth split into two groups?
Since the govt. committed 9/11, why arent truthers demanding the release of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is on trial for his life for a crime truthers claim he did not commit?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
ctcole77 7 months ago
FOX NEWS OR FOX PROPAGANDA
theytoookourjobs 7 months ago
typical fox "news" dismissal of facts
sentis3 7 months ago
The idea that Cheney would order the plane NOT shot down as part of a conspiracy is just too good an idea to not believe, but the reason they didn't want THAT plane shot down was it was over extremely populated areas & if it was heading for the Capitol Building or the White House those buildings had been largely evacuated. As heinous and depraved as Cheney is, this conspiracy theory is just pandering to the paranoid, nervous minds. Al-Qaeda did it, the SAID they were gonna do it on 60 minutes...
KingKook 8 months ago
no paranoid my friend this was told by the one military under cheney. he gave this testimony. in the history of the military of the US it was the first time the vice president was in charge of the air force. he almost took that power by force. read some more!
shangrygirl 7 months ago
@KingKook WHY NOT SHOW US FOOTAGE OF THE PLANE HITTIN THE PENTAGON THEY GOT IT SO SHOW US
theytoookourjobs 7 months ago
@theytoookourjobs Because the "security risk" posed by allowing terrorists to see how vulnerable the pentagon is made the "security experts" nervous, so the footage is classified. It's stupid & pointless, but that's what our military specializes in, stupid & pointless policies & activities. They even classified the names of pentagon employees killed in the attack. They couldn't control that, but they did it just out of reflex, like robots. Military Intelligence is still an oxymoron.
KingKook 7 months ago
@KingKook well have to agree to disagree bro peace
theytoookourjobs 7 months ago
@KingKook Are you serious? I mean are you freakin serious. They were worried because it was over extremely populated areas and that's why they didn't shoot it down! You need to wa.. Why do we bother, someone tell me why we bother trying to convince these sheep that the government is evil and doesn't care about them and that they will do anything and everything to maintain and build their power and wealth! Children, that's what they are just little children who want to believe in Santa Claus!
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
WTF - Fox is now hiring KNOWN criminals (Ollie North) as anchormen ....sheesh, the twilight zone just gets darker!
BiggerThinking1 8 months ago
Oliver North questioned Fetzer about truth. That is grotesque.
StratusBlue 9 months ago
Suppose we simply take expert to mean "someone incredulous who requires evidence and draws conclusions therefrom", as opposed to one who never genuinely considers the strange facts around 9/11. The suspension of physics on no fewer than 3 occasions (the 3 towers 'falling), the disappearance of the various CCTV cameras with video of the Pentagon strike and such.
CodiferL 9 months ago
@CodiferL Well, then there are a whole lot of individuals who would consider themselves, "experts". By your definition, that's actually just a critical thinker. Individuals are experts in certain fields, and it gives them a level of credibility when discussing that specific field. This comes into play big time in the court of law. If your presenting forensic evidence to a jury, your not going to have a mathematics expert as your witness. It would of course be a forensics expert, who would be....
BrandonPumel 9 months ago
a more credible witness for that specific field of information. So if we apply that to 9/11, the 9/11 Scholars have 1 engineer and maybe 2 or 3 individuals who may or may not have some knowledge in the collapse of buildings. With this being said, the NIST employs 2,900 scientists, engineers, and technicians, and has multiple out-sourcing firms for additional expertise which they may not have. So yes, the NIST has the credibility and the information they release, would be a credible source.
BrandonPumel 9 months ago
@BrandonPumel NIST? A government agency investigating high treason military precision covert acts that goes right up to the office of the president and we are suppose to trust and believe that they will be completely unbiased and fair in their investigation, are you off your rocker, that's like getting the SS to investigate the German Reichstag fire, wink wink. The absolute ignorance with some people about 911 is absolute frightening, there like little children!
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
@Allanlegacy43 NIST was the most qualified organization to investigate 9/11. You make it sound like NIST is made up of a couple scientists w/ personal connections to Bush. NIST is one of the most credible organizations we have. They employ around 2,900 scientists, engineers, and technicians. They have 1,800 associates from foreign countries and other credible American companies. Not to mention, were not the only ones investigating. For example: Purdue University's research team published a....
BrandonPumel 6 months ago
@BrandonPumel study of their own, that looked into the reason the towers collapse. They had no knowledge of NIST's research because it would obviously affect their final conclusions. The researchers at Purdue University came to the exact same conclusion as NIST, for the reason of collapse. This wasn't some half ass investigation that ignored scientific requirements. NIST wasn't just assigned to investigate and never questioned. The scientific community has praised NIST's investigation from day 1
BrandonPumel 6 months ago
@BrandonPumel Wake up and get a clue child!
Allanlegacy43 6 months ago
@Allanlegacy43 Wake up and find ration
BrandonPumel 6 months ago
Created a faculty of EXPERTS? Not even close. Just because your a professor in a certain field doesn't make you an expert in EVERY field. For instance, if you got your PhD in Mathematics, that doesn't qualify you to teach English. The same rules apply to YOU fat boy, and that goes for all your so called "EXPERTS". Here's a hint, don't put your members ACTUAL fields of study on your website. It just makes you look dumb.
BrandonPumel 10 months ago
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CodiferL 9 months ago
Yeah Mr North, we know you were involved in a couple pretty controversial undertakings. You're whats called a criminal.
GodsRight 10 months ago
Well Mr. North, how many people were involved in getting drugs from south america and shipping them to California for money used to illegally fund the contras? Certainly more than 100.
Daddyo930 10 months ago
@Daddyo930 Show me where you got your facts about 150 cameras pointing at the pentagon 24-7. Thats right, you cant. You just make up facts to appear smarter than you are. Typical troll.
flute1234 10 months ago
@flute1234 ok, maybe not 150, but I know of 85 tapes that are being withheld. You can google that fact or file a freedom of information request with the FBI and ask them. Not much info coming from them lately. You can quit the name calling or I wont bother responding.
Daddyo930 10 months ago
@Daddyo930 Then dont respond. You came here all high and mighty trying to tell me off, what did you expect? Respect?
flute1234 10 months ago
@flute1234 Did you google the missing tapes? There should at least be a couple that would show what hit the pentagon. That's a fair question. All I am asking is for some questions to be answered. I served my time in the military and I think that every person on the planet has the right to ask questions. That sounds fair right?
Daddyo930 10 months ago
@Daddyo930 We are on the same side. I want asnwers to those questions as well. That is what i have been arguing. Their refusal to answer such easy questions just shows their coverups. So i think your comments should be directed towards the other person i was aruging with.
flute1234 10 months ago
@flute1234 Then I am truly sorry my friend. Most of my family has served in the military. I served in the military. My mother was even in the Coast Guard. We are deeply divided in my house. Let us now turn our attention to those that wish to obscure the truth. You should never resort to demeaning people or insulting them in any way. A real man stands on his merit and makes no excuses for his shortcomings.
Daddyo930 10 months ago
@Daddyo930 I think you should take your own advice. You attacked me first then you got it dished back to you. A true apology doesnt come with "buts" which you just displayed.
flute1234 10 months ago
Show america, america!
icedevilinred 11 months ago
I had to watch this again since it was so wonderful to watch...go Scholars For 911Truth
jackiesglitter 11 months ago
too bad this board has been taken over by two shills flute and merlin....
jackiesglitter 11 months ago
@jackiesglitter Quiet down. Im the one saying it was an inside job. This other moron is just full of blatent lies which i dont appreciate. If you dont like my comments dont read them.
flute1234 11 months ago
Like i said show me "real" websites that say that. I already showed you legitimate ones that say you are wrong. So stop talkign and start showing. Nevermind what 1 reporter said reporter ALL of our news stations say otherwise. And we have tropps dying in iraq as well. So go tell the families of the canadian troops that lost their son or daughter in iraq that they werent really there. Ignorant fuck. Now what can you possibly say? And no, noone knows how many cameras are at the pentagon.
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234 There are over 150 cameras pointed at the pentagon 24-7. Thats how many. Many of the videos have been confiscated by the FBI and remain unreleased. What are they trying not to let everyone see.
Daddyo930 10 months ago
@Daddyo930 I know. They cant give me the BS about only having one useable video shot. If they wanted to show and make the U.S population happy they would have released at least the Sheraton Hotel footage that would have shown what hit the pentagon clearly.
flute1234 10 months ago
@flute1234 You can advance your argument without using profanity. Those soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan who are dying are dying for nothing. You know this. Stop pushing the question aside by asserting that no one knows how many cameras were pointed at at the pentagon. Why hasn't the government released more videos that would show what hit the pentagon? We can argue endlessly about how many cameras there were. Keep your profanity to yourself if you want to be recognized as a human.
Daddyo930 10 months ago
@Daddyo930 What are you going on about? Go read all of my comments before you talk like your some godsend. Ill swear if I like and if you dont like it i urge you not to read my comments or in fact not go on youtube. You are all over the map you enter a debate without knowing what the debate is actually about. Why on earth are you even talking about drugs coming from south america? You pretty much have no place in this debate anymore. You seem like a troll.
flute1234 10 months ago
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flute1234 10 months ago
The smug Fox News pricks got OWNED! That was awesome!
PeterDudek 11 months ago
Every major news station in Canada including CBS which was where that reporter is from reports on Canada in the iraq war. It was also WORLD NEWS that our special forces, the JTF2 were involved in a high risk rescue of Canadian hostages in Iraq. We hear it all the time in Canada now stfu you obviously know nothing. I dont see you talking about the article you misquoted a few comments ago which i posted what it actualyl said for you which proved you wrong. Why not?
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234--- now are you saying that the CBC reporter and ALL WEBSITES are wrong?? and the pentagon tapes are well known. the FBI released the number of tapes. even most of you "truthers" try and bring this up as "proof" of a cover up. this just shows that you are very misinformed. I expected a lil more, even from a "truther". you are sad dumbass.
58ravenfan 11 months ago
@58ravenfan And stop using the same remarks i use in my posts to insult me its getting annoying. Become original you dont need to copy me. Your a unintelligent person who thinks because he googles for 2 mins that hes knowledgeable abotu subjects. You need to go take a nap.
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234---and read my comments, ALL websites say that you are WRONG!! and that CBC reporter SAYS YOU ARE WRONG!! and I use those insults beacuse its funny how you call me names when YOU are cleary wrong!! and OBVIOUSLY i am not retracting my comment about the cammeras. ask any real "truther" and they will tell you about the cammeras. thats how uninformed you are. and I did show you about canada not haveing troops in Iraq. didnt you watch that video where the CBC reporter says it!!??
58ravenfan 11 months ago
According to an analysis by the American Thinker's Randall Hoven, the cost of the Iraq war from 2003-2008 -- when Bush was in office -- was $20 billion less than the cost of education spending and less than a quarter of the cost of Medicare spending during that same period.
STIGLITZ was a Clinton Admin staffer. It's on the bottom of the editorial piece you are JUST NOW reading, so apparently you don't get it's a Clinton revenge piece.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
Congressional Budget Office numbers show that the total cost of the eight-year war was less than the stimulus bill passed by the Democratic-led Congress in 2009.
According to CBO numbers (Congressional Budget office), the total cost of operation Iraqi Freedom over 8 years was $709 billion for military and related activities, including training of Iraqi forces and diplomatic operations.
The projected cost of the stimulus, passed in February 2009, and is for two years, was $862 billion.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
Writing in these pages in early 2008, we put the total cost to the United States of the Iraq war at $3 trillion. This price tag dwarfed previous estimates, including the Bush administration's 2003 projections of a $50 billion to $60 billion war.
Like I thought, it's an op ed piece, its throwing EVERY cost possible into the war, and it's a total bullshit editorial. You did NOT even read this article, did you?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
You just got done typing it's a 10 year old war, did you divide it by 10?
I seriously hope you listen to your own posts before talking crap.
It doesn't sound like it.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
They have been in Chicago longer, and it still has a death rate that is larger than Iraq and Afghanistan and Iraq COMBINED.
The Massive military, which is smaller than any military fielded since World War I, and was smaller as a Percentage of GDP than Woodrow wilson's America, doesn't have to win a victory. They are a demonstration of FREEDOM, and even South Vietnam remembers that. That's why at my age, 20 year old Vietnamese girls begged to come to america with me.
Seems you suck world-wide.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 A demonstration of freedom? Tell the familes of the fallen soldiers they died for just a demonstration you ignorant fuck. How can you even compare policing in Chicago to war in Iraq? What kind of weird retarded thinking do you have? This war has cost the U.S more than any war in history dont try to say otherwise. Bush has single handedly ruined your once great country. He and Obama have no put you so far in debt that you will not get out of it.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
I plan to, right after I tell the families of the 9/11 dead.
The families of the people killed by crime on our streets, and the assholes
like you that make excuses for those criminals.
George Bush seems to have changed the world, and you know it.
Stop acting like such a fucking faggot, and defend the values of the west,
because that's all that George ever asked you to do.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 REad my previous comment. And the read my other comments. I dont like Bush and he was the worst president in U.S history. Fact. You are right George bush did change the world. He ruined it. Im not defending other countries. Where do you even get this shit from? Whats right is right. Dont care abotu the U.s becaseu im not from the U.S im from a country who doesnt bully and is liked by the world. Unlike the U.S which is hated by most for obvious reasons.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
Well, then FUCK YOU, Dumbshit. George Bush is obviously changing the world, and the Bush Doctrine is changing the middle east after only 9 years. In the end, who will remember YOU?
You will die as an impotent screaming bitch, and he will have a library, a carrier like his Dad, and a major chapter of world history.
And all that 1960s left wing, populist, I'm the people and you are not CRAP, will be in the same coffin you will be rotting in.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 It wont let me post the websites so go to wikipedia and type in "Financial cost of the Iraw War" . and then go to google and type in " Iraw war total cost. The second website is fr omthe washington post. So no, i didnt misquote anything for my gain. But good try.
flute1234 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 They will remember Bush as the worst president in U,S history. And they will remember him because he is hated by majority of the world. You are jsut resorting to insults now because you have lost this arguement over and over again. Dont comment if you dont have anyhting truthful or factual to say.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
Like I pointed out before, you just pulled CRAP out of your ass, and
expect me to believe it, I checked, and it's a rancid pile of shit, as usual.
The article was WRITTEN in 2008, NOT about 2008, it totalled ALL
the costs over 12 years, starting years before the war, and it didn't divide
by 10 years either. Measured another way, the IRAQ and Afghan war
cost a LOT less than the financial stimulus.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Read the article. The quote you just posted proved my point. Thank you. Now read this quote from the former head of the world bank as well." Stiglitz, former chief economist of the World Bank and winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics, has stated the total costs of the Iraq War on the US economy will be three trillion dollars in a moderate scenario, and possibly more in the most recent published study, published in March 2008" ITS YOU WHO NEEDS TO READ AND LEARN.
flute1234 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Now lets show the next line that you left ou of that article "But today, as the United States ends combat in Iraq, it appears that our $3 trillion estimate (which accounted for both government expenses and the war's broader impact on the U.S. economy) was, if anything, too low."
Funny how you said im doign that but really its only you doing it.
flute1234 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 You must feel really silly at this point. Youve lied all through your argurments and have tried to say i manipulate facts when i jsut clearly showed you are the one doing it.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
LMAO, my congressional budget numbers beat your Washington Post Bullshit Op Editorial by a Clinton Administration staffer hands down, doesn't it?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Clinton administration? Clinton wasnt in office for this war. And my last 3 comments jsut showed how you manipulate things and make things up but you got caught.
flute1234 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 What do you have to say for yourself about manipulating the articles?
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
I did NOT manipulate the article at all. I copied and pasted it verbatim.
It's from YOUR article, that you NEVER troubled yourself to READ.
That's YOUR problem, not mine.
Now go back to fantasizing you are the people, and I am not.
Cause you just got your butthole kicked by my big boot.
Jackass.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Thatis what the article states.
Stiglitz, former chief economist of the World Bank and winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics, has stated the total costs of the Iraq War on the US economy will be three trillion dollars in a moderate scenario, and possibly more in the most recent published study, published in March 2008. Stiglitz has stated: "The figure we arrive at is more than $3 trillion. Our calculations are based on conservative assumptions.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
Maybe you might look at the CBO numbers, they are here.
cbo. gov/ftpdocs/ 86xx/doc8690/ 10-24-CostOfWar_Testimony. pdf
The highest George Bush ever spent was 100 billion dollars. The
transition from war in Iraq to war in Afghanistan will top out last year
and next at 140 billion, or about 3/4 spent on Welfare checks,
and about 1/2 spent on health care, and MOST of that is spent
INSIDE the US, because that's where they are bought.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Now times that by 10 years and add other costs for health care and rebuildings and you get in the trillions. Look the World banks and former clinton admins say it so jsut open your eyes a bit.
flute1234 11 months ago
@Merlin5x5 Now tell me what has the iraq war done for the U.S people? I can tell you that majority of the world no longer likes the U.S. I can tell you its put a huge dent in your economy. I can tell you that its given Halliburton alot of money. So im wondering what postiive thing the Iraw war has done for you the american cizitzens
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
No, actually, you can't tell me anything, as you hated the US to begin with,
you hang with a bunch of CRAPPY people who believe the same as you,
and the wider society thinks you and yours are wasted skin, and piss ant politics.
MAYBE, the positive thing is that we are NOT being attacked in NYC by
terrorist airplanes anymore, DUMBSHIT. Wasn't that the point?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
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@Merlin5x5 I thought so. You cant tell me anyhting. So ill post it again to show more of your stupidity.
Now tell me what has the iraq war done for the U.S people? I can tell you that majority of the world no longer likes the U.S. I can tell you its put a huge dent in your economy. I can tell you that its given Halliburton alot of money. So im wondering what postiive thing the Iraw war has done for you the american cizitzens
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234---- and I think you just made our point for us!! you claim that we went to war for selfish gain. where is this selfish gain!! we went to war to get those who attacked us and Israel. the main gain is as a deterrent to not attack us again!! and why do you keep talking like America is the only on is this war? there were about 45 and 50 countries in this war includeing YOUR country canada!! so enough about how bad you think America is when you are in the same fucking war!!
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@58ravenfan So what your saying is the U.S went to war in Iraq because they attacked us and Israel? lol. Iraq had nothing to do with it but Oil interest. And my country is pulling out troops starting in the coming month. I do not agree with them being in Iraq either. And we also did not formally declare war on Iraq. I truley hope you guys open yoru eyes and stand up for yourselves or your govt will be the next Nazi regime.
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234----yes they did fool. you do know that al-qaeda is in iraq too right?? and a lot of there and the talibans allies are there too. the situation is, for the most part, controlled in iraq. that is why we are moving our troops out. and what do you mean "And my country is pulling out troops starting in the coming month." you dont have any troops in iraq. you do in afghanistan. and dont give me that "your gonna be like the NAZIs" BS!! we j\have the right to defend ourselves and our allies!
58ravenfan 11 months ago
@58ravenfan Its sad that you can sit here and justify this iraq war. You realize the U.N didnt even agree with this war? And yes Canada has troops in Iraq we jsut havent declared war aganist Iraq. And you are completley blind if you think the situation is controlledi n Iraw. Iraw is the biggewst failure since vietnam. Its taken twice as long as WW2 and even th generals on the ground along with the govt are saying its worse than we thought it would be.
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234--wrong,Canada did not send any troops to iraq.Jean Chrétien announced in Parliament on March 17, 2003 that Canada would NOT participate in the pending invasion.and the U.N may not have agreed to it but 40 some countries did. and the only reason that the iraq war was ONE year longer then WW 2 is beacuse we didnt use our nuke in this war like we did against the japs.do you really think if we didnt nuke the japs they would have given up? hell no. so that war would have been much longer
58ravenfan 11 months ago
@58ravenfan You mean the same generals that were reported in wikileaks for saying Iraq is a failure? Those are leaked confidential cables not CNN.
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234--ONE it wasnt CNN.TWO they are not those GEN.s who said that shit.and YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN.after typing in "Canada and the Iraq War" the very first site said "Jean Chrétien announced in Parliament on March 17, 2003 that Canada would not participate in the pending invasion.Nevertheless, he offered the US and its soldiers his moral support."did you read that??it said WOULD NOT participate. the ONLY canadian troops that are over there are Exchange officers.but canada did NOT send troops
58ravenfan 11 months ago
@58ravenfan Wow are you for real? Canada is in Iraq I live in Canada i know people who soldiers who are in Iraq please dont tell me Canada is not in Iraq. And if you really typed that in google the first site that comes up is Wikipedia. Read it. Canada is in Iraq with troops. Shall i give you the names of some Canadian soliders who have died in Iraq? Stop posting your bs fraudulent comments. You havent told he truth in any of them.
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234-and as I said there are canadian troops there but they are Exchange officers.there is not ONE branch of the armed forces of canada in iraq.you ARE WRONG! after typing in "Canada and the Iraq war" a wiki page shows up and here is what it says "Jean Chrétien announced in Parliament on March 17, 2003 that Canada would not participate in the pending invasion. Nevertheless, he offered the US and its soldiers his moral support." and there is even a section called Decision not to participate
58ravenfan 11 months ago
@flute1234--and you are wrong again it is a sucsess and the generals on the ground agree.Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, the top U.S. military spokesman in Iraq,declared great successes against insurgents.Gen. Petraeus to Sen. Kennedy “Senator, they are fighting and, as I mentioned, dying for their country in substantial numbers.Their losses, again, are some three times our losses of late.And I might add that the sons of Iraq losses are between two and a half and three times our losses in addition to that
58ravenfan 11 months ago
@58ravenfan And stop saying i am wrong when you have no clue what you are talking about. You do that ever comment yet youre full of false information that even a 1 min google serach can find. go type in google
"Canada and the Iraq war". Magically, it says Canada did not formally decalre war on Iraq yet they did send military troops there. So really you need to read before you comment.
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234 CANADA HAS MILITARY TROOPS IN IRAQ. AND YOU DO REALIZE JEAN CHRETIEN HASNT BEEN OUR PRIME MINISTER SINCE 2003? WE HEAR ABOUT IT OUR TRROPS IN IRAQ EVERYDAY ON THE NEWS. SO PLEASE STOP READING ONE ARTICLE THAT WAS DATED 2003 OK?
flute1234 11 months ago
@58ravenfan And i suggest you read the whole article that you quoted. You seem to have convienently left out this part "Though no declaration of war was issued, the Governor General-in-Council did order the mobilization of a number of Canadian Forces personnel to serve actively in Iraq." which was my original post. We also have our special forces in Iraq to ,the JTF 2, which along with the u.s and other countries made a rescue of Canadian hostages which was reported widely aroudn the world.
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234---- dude you are fool of shit!!! bottom line!!! here is the ONLY troops that canada sent over. "Canada, despite not joining the invading coalition, still participated in the conflict in Iraq, joining a number of non-belligerent nations in helping to rebuild the country post-invasion, including the training of Iraqi police and army officers, and contributing approximately $300 million towards this effort" NO MILITARY ACTION AGAINT IRAQ!! TRY AGAIN BUD!!
58ravenfan 11 months ago
@58ravenfan you are a serious retarted moron. First of all why the fuck are you talking about Vietnam? You fuckin idiot. Were talking about Iraq not vietnam. Secondly, i have a friend who is a sniper in Iraq. I hear about Canadians military troops on the news in Canada. So dont come with your stupid quotes that say abosolutely nothign. IVe given you loads of info directly saying WE HAVE TROOPS IN IRAQ. You are one dumb fuckin moron. Like yrou channel, go troll somewhere else , Your misinformed
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234--- there is even a video intitled "Ann Coulter Gets Owned" where a reporter from CBC said " like iraq, canada sent no troops to vietnam". so are you really saying that a news reporter in CANADA knows less about canada than you do?? haha!!! just give up fool!!
58ravenfan 11 months ago
@58ravenfan You must feel really stupid getting told every comment you make. Everyone of you comments make no sense and are literraly jsut made up fradulent claims. It is hilarious to read. Come live in Canada and then hear about our troops dying in Iraq then open your lying mouth kid.
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234--- kid?? im 2 years younger than you bud. and OMFG you are retarded!!! ann coulter was asking why did canada not send troops to iraq like they did to vietnam. the reporter from CBC said she was wrong that canada never sent troops to vietnam. and ended that bit by saying "Like Iraq, Canada never sent troops to vietnam".now did you read that!!?? do you really not understand!! ever the reporters IN CANADA say that you are wrong!!! so do some research before opeong that mouth of yours kid
58ravenfan 11 months ago
@58ravenfan And the only immature person here is you. Look at your channel You are E fighting with some other kids tellign them to come to your state so you can fight. Grow up you immature child. You are full of false information which has been shown from every single one of your comments. going back 2 weeks now. Heres one example to show how bs you are. PLease tell us how you knwo how many cameras are at the pentagon. You gave us the number im curious how you got such confidential info. Idiot
flute1234 11 months ago
@flute1234--- and AGAIN you have NO CLUE what you are talking about! those weak ass "truthers" actually threatend to kill me and worldhero. so thats why I said talk is cheap, if you wanna act tough over the internet why not back it up and come to where I live and we shall see how tough you really are. and as I said MANY TIMES canada IS NOT involved in military actions in iraq!!!! ALL sites say this! and did you see that video that I told you to look at?? A CANADIAN REPORTER said you are wrong
58ravenfan 11 months ago
@58ravenfan REad my comment again. All of our news channels report on our tropps in the Iraq war. Who are you to say otherwise? Do you watch our news? The pentagon has never and will never release how many cameras are at the pentagon so stop making up bs claims. You said there was at least 85 cameras a few weeks back are yo uretracting yoru statement now ? Show me one reputable site that says Canada does not have military in Iraq. Ill point you the all major sites AGAIN to show you are wrong.
flute1234 11 months ago
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@Merlin5x5 I thought so. You cant tell me anyhting. So ill post it again to show more of your stupidity.
Now tell me what has the iraq war done for the U.S people? I can tell you that majority of the world no longer likes the U.S. I can tell you its put a huge dent in your economy. I can tell you that its given Halliburton alot of money. So im wondering what postiive thing the Iraw war has done for you the american cizitzens
flute1234 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Wow you are so fucked up in thinking its incredible. Education builds people up. War kills people. Back to arguement now. I dont care which staff he was on he was Chief Economist for the World Bank.
flute1234 1 year ago
Im sure you can figure how to use those links i posted there. IT wont let me send them. ae911truth shows 1450 CD experts that say it was a controlled demolition yet you say they dont say that??? Are you on crack or have you just not read it? And China is democratic and the biggest threat to the U.S. The reason the U.S wont mess with China is because China would destroy the U.S economy completely. The U.S doesnt give a shit about democracy they only care about their interests
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234--- dude you are retarded!!! one the links dont work!! just tell me the title of the video!! two NO there are ZERO CD experts in ae911truth!!! even the founder Richard Gage was force to admit this by Mark Roberts!!! you are LIEING!!! just like you lied about there being a CD expert in "loose change"!! where Mark Roberts also had the creators of that admit to NO CD EXPERT AGREEING WITH THEM!!! and why would we mess with China? they are not threatening us or our allies?
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@58ravenfan I cant argue with you. You're completey closed minded which a false information. And the China comment was because the guy said the u.s is in iraw just so they can have democracy lol wow. Thast why i said if they cared so much they should invade China the same way. But they cant. Anyways im done arguing with you. Just hope you open yoru eyes abit so your govt doesnt walk all over you. You can have the last word since thats the type of child you appear to be.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234---and once again a lil "truther" who has no clue to what they are talking about so they cry and say we are close minded. lol. sad realy. when given so much info that prooves them wrong what do they do? RUN AWAY!!! you have no proof to back you claims. and the China comment is another stupid comment and I noticed that you didnt answer my question about it. why would we attack china? we have no reason!now if you wanna run away instead of debating your claims then fine.
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@58ravenfan Ive debated my claims numerous times in the previous posts which i urge anyone to read. Your comments and facts are false and moronic. And since the comment was that the U.S is in iraq because the U.S wants everyon to have democracy. My reply was then go invade China if the u.s only cares abotu democracy. And of course your stupid comment was "why should we?" Because i jsut fuckin told you why. Because you care about democracy so much.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234--actually you ( and not surprising) are WRONG!! i never said the only reason that we are over there is beacuse we want democracy every where. the MAIN reason we are over there is beacuse the group of people that attacked us hides over there! China has not attacked us or our allies so why bother with them?? everything that I said is true and I even gave sources ( unlike you)to prove that I am right.
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@58ravenfan Dont yo uget it im not even talking to you anymore. Your answering replies that im directing at this other guy. Im done talking with you. Your comments are alwasy made up and false.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234----okay ONE I was replying to a comment you posted towards me!! TWO you have YET to prove me wrong!! is that why you no longer want to debate shit with me?? beacuse you know that your wrong and I call you on your BS!!!??
58ravenfan 1 year ago
GO RESEARCH ROBERT CLARKE.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234--- go research the investigation.
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@58ravenfan Dont walk around the argument. How much more proof do you need when you have the Chief of Counterterrorism at the time of the attacks saying the Govt knew and they failed????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? End of discussion. Ive dont my research your points are shallow and full of emptiness. We are done here. Hopefully you wont grow up to be another lemming.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234-who is walking around an argument?you take the word of ONE guy WHO GOT FIRED!what else could we have done?we where running lik 100 differant drills in preperation.the problem is we didnt have enought time to prepare!you have NO CD experts to back up your claim that the towers where brought down by CD and NO eye witnesses that say a misle hit the pentagon and NO eye witness who claim that "no plane hit in shanksville"you have NO PROOF to what you are saying.you need to educate yourself
58ravenfan 1 year ago
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@58ravenfan Go to ae911truth Read front page then tell me again there are NO cd or structural engineers who said it was a controlled demolition. There is almost 1500. Then watch this
youtube.com/watch?v=rUzrHHDu96U&feature=related
youtube.com/watch?v=_gliHOhXYFQ&feature=fvwrel
Now please dotn tell me there were NO eye witnesses. Everyone of yoru comments are useless and full of non facts its hilarious now.
Then watch this
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234--- those two links dont go to anything. what are the names of those videos?? and yes I seen the ae911truth and there are ZERO CD experts that agree with you!!! and by the way there are STRONG elements of democracy in China!! much more than there ever has been!! and YES we do have the right to dictate what another country does!! if there is a threat to us and or allies DUH!!
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@58ravenfan Oh and Richard clarke wasnt fired he resigned. Yet more false information from you.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
Still waiting for any proof you might have. Put it on the table.
This entire generation of Americans have watched Idiots like you for 10 years.
They have dismissed you like any Quack Idiot.
I do also.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Proof? Over the past couple of days. Ive given proof go reread before you comment. And now you give me proof. Good luck with your findings.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
You haven't given proof, and that's why the world IGNORES you, like it
ignores preachers on the corner, and Armageddon if we don't listen to you.
Heard it before, bored us to tears, drool on your own shirt, and figure out,
that your considered less than Bozo, conspiracy nutjob.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@flute1234
Oh, and just in case you haven't noticed, China doesn't call itself communist china anymore.
Unlike you, they recognized the "End of History" with the fall of the Soviet Union in 1988.
They went from a communist enemy, to a supplier of goods for WalMart, to a commercial
product cheap house in only one generation, and they sure are rapidly developing
democratic institutions, as they kinda HAVE to. Just like Tunisia, Egypt, and Libya,
when a people get educated, they wanna vote.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 You obviously have not been to China. And you obviously know nothing about China to much such a stupid statement. China or " The Peoples republic of China" is goverened by 1 party know as the "Communist Party of China" Now go away. Noone listens to misinformed people who think they know everyhitng. If yoru going to try to talk down to me at least dont appear to be an idiot. Get your facts straight and then come back for more.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
Actually, yes, I have been to China, and back to Vietnam since I left in 1979.
American Vietnam Veterans are more popular on the streets of SAIGON,
than ever, and it's popular to call it SAIGON, not Ho Chi Minh City.
I went back to the Perfume River, where I watched 250,000 dead people
roll down the river in a single evening.
Talking down to you seems to be the easiest thing to do, with your
head so far up your ass.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Why are you talking about Vietnam? We are talkign about China. Never once have we mentioned Vietnam. They border each other but are separate countries. So basically you came back with nothing?
Good for who? The U.S has been going down hill for decades now. Your dollar has lost 60% of its value your debt is in the trillions and gaining extremely fast, your economy is owned largely by Saudis and Chinese. You , despite what you think are at the mercy of everyone else in the world.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
I am talking about Vietnam and China because it was the same trip, Dumbass.
Two weeks, partly sponsored by the US Chamber of Commerce.
We went to talk about how to change from 18th century sweatshop manufacturing
to modern automation, and that's what I do, so Duuuhhhhh.
China at the street level is capitalist, ever since the Reforms of Chou En Lai.
That's why the government of china is so cut off from Chinese life.
YOUR Crappy ideas died out long ago, dumbass.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@flute1234
Oh, and hate to break it to you, but when you grow so fast, like Japan,
as China has done for the last 20 years, that means you do it MOSTLY on LOANS.
Every bridge in Japan and China was built with a LOAN, while here in the states,
they are paid for with CASH, out of tax dividends. When China started this
decade, most of those factories were still using steam and belt driven looms
and sewing machines, and LIKE JAPAN, those loans come due at some point.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 You are completely unintelligent. China is communist. You lost this arguement at the beginning of it by saying it isnt communist. You have alot to learn about economics also. The state of the U.S is horrible loo kat debt ratio's and the general deficit and debts for the U.S. Were nto talking about 20 years ago. We are talking about now. China is the nest super power and there is nothign the U.S can do about it but sit back and watch. I hope it doesnt happen to be honest but it will.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
LMAO, the last time I looked, the world went from 36 communist countries opposing the US, to 6 countries left. South America went from all Tin Horn Military dictatorships to NONE, Spain, South Korea, Singapore, the Phillipines, all Dictators carefully managed by the US into democracies, and RICHER TOO.
Now it's Egypt, Tunisia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya's turn.
Sounds like Victory to me.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Yet they have been in Iraq and afghanistan for 10 years which is 5 years longer than all of WW2 and they still have not gotten victory there. Such a massive military cant win against people in caves and desert dwellers. Soemthing doesnt make sense. They must want to be there. There is a reason the U.N was against the U.S going into Iraq. I am all for democracy you are makign it sound like i am not. But China is Communist and there is nothing you can say that is factual to argue that.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
Just to point out the obvious, that Massive military is flying 1975 Jets, and flying 1962 refueling jets, and the 1952 B-52 is expected to serve for another 20 years, by which time, it will be 70 years old.
Wow, what a massive spending cornucopia. Even the Hughies and Chinooks of the Vietnam war are still serving, and the M1A2 tanks are 40 years old. Stop trying to sell some Bread and Circuses programs to pay the criminal poor, and start actually punishing them.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Are you joking about the spending for the U.S tyranical war? The washington post put the cost of the Iraw war at 3 TRILLION in 2008. Dont come to me with yoru bullshit non facts out of your head. do you realize how much 3 trillion could do for the U.S public? Get some sense.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
Sorry, Dumbass, the whole US economy was 13 trillion in 2008, you are probably misquoting the Washington Post, as Twoofer LIARS often do, when they are failingm, they usually pull crap like that out of your ass, here is the GDP chart, look for yourself.
usgovernment spending dot com/fed_us _real_gdp_chart_09_k. html
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 And you re making it sound like i have communist "ideas". These are facts not my ideas. Go back to school and learn mroe before your talk oldman. Usually, the older yo uare the smarter and more experienced you are but it is obviously not the case here.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234
As Tienamen Square, and it's Democracy Square demonstrations show,
Democracy is coming, and the Communist party is doomed, and they
know it. So do the citizens of Egypt, Tunisia, and Iraq. Libya is fighting
to dump idiots like you, and create a democracy also. Looks like the
George Bush Doctrine is kicking your faggot ass all over the world.
Good for us, bad for you, LOL.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 So please, come back abotu China. Lets hear you tell us how China isnt communist LOL. You must be reading some American history book.
flute1234 1 year ago
blackjerryboymetal, thanks for showing up with the comments on Ollie North,what you don't understand now, will haunt you later. You don't see this picture for what it is,and you fail to see beyond the MSM hype.Everyone has an opinion and I disagree with yours. Go get your info from Michael Savage,he's a real truth teller(HAHAHA) Read a little and maybe you will awake to your reality.
isthatfunny 1 year ago
@blackjerryboymetal And little pawn, the questions ive asked are not in the 911 commission report. REad it yyourself before you come back and talk about it. You obviously have not read that either. Have you read anything on this subject? You havent read bush's book or the 911 commission report where are you getting any information from? Thought so. Now go away troll boy
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234-----and yes I know that buildings can not fall at free fall. if you are trying to say that ANY of those buildings fell at free fall you are wrong. would you like to see video evidance of this too? I will show it to you if you like. and by the way NO controlled demolition expert in the WORLD says that the twin towers looked like they where taken down by bombs or thermite.
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@flute1234---- where did she lie under oath about the attacks? and dont give me a broken up snip bit of the interview.show the the link to the whole interview where you claim she lied. and this idiot fitzer thinks that some kind of "death ray" device brought the towers down. lol. these are the kind of "scholars" you "troothers" have on your side.
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@58ravenfan Condeleeza lied under oath saying they were not aware of any knowledge of imminent attacks against the U.S by "airplanes". The senators questioning her had classified documents that stated otehrwise and they brought it to her attention which she signed herself. I really have no clue where you are getting any of yoru facts from. This is posted alllllll over the internet
flute1234 1 year ago
@58ravenfan First of all the buildings fell at about 10 seconds which is free fall speed without resistance. You can find that anywhere on the internet. You can even time it yourself if you like. Secondly, im not sure where you pulled out that faulty comment about there being no controlled demolition experts in the WORLD that wsays its wasnt controlled. In fact there are thousands of them. Just google anyhtign about it and youll see petitions from them
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234----okay about Condeleeza I never said she did or did not lie. I never seen the video that you are talking about. I ask you for what video you are talking about. where is the link?? and no thats a flat out LIE! the ONLY CD expert IN THE WORLD that say any of the three buildings fell do to CD was building three. and he wasnt even told about the fires on the other side or how long the where burning or that they where unfought or that the east penthouse collapsed first.
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@flute1234-- now obviously if he knew all of this he would have had a differant opinion. and even he said that there was no was that the twin towers where takin down by demolition. so try again bud. and to be technical free fall for those buildings would be 9.22 seconds and they fell at 15 and 20 seconds respectively. the name of the video is "9/11 Debunked: World Trade Center - No Free-Fall Speed" you can time it for your self!
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@58ravenfan You have alot to learn. ALOT. Blinded by a corrupt govt who consistently lies to you wow. The rest of the world knows jsut SOME of the americans dont. Typical american ignorance. You have the ideas now go youtube some videos and watch them. Now i guess you think the video of the pentagon was ok and no other cameras caught anything right? Out of the hundreds of cameras in and around the pentagaon including the hotels, the only footage thery give is that piece of junk footage? Hmmm
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234-----okay bud it is YOU who has a lot to learn. I noticed that you didnt even attempt to refute that video that I shown you about the "free fall" BS. nor did you give me a link to Mrs. Rice lieing. nor did you refute the video of Mineta. nor can you find ONE CD expert IN THE WORLD who agrees with you. that is A LOT that you cant even refute so way the hell would any one believe you?
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@58ravenfan Look up CSpan Condeleez rice under oath or lliterrally anyhting that has to do with it and many many videos will pop up. Do you need babysitting to? Just look for it itll take you under 20 seconds. You are making up lies calling them facts. ITs quite hilarious. Go watch Loose change and magically youll see and hear CD experts and structural engineers talking about the buildings etc. and that is one video. You obviously dont do any research its completely apparent.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234----and there were not "hundreds" of cameras there. there were about 85. and only 3 shown the actually crash. one shown just the fire ball because trees where in the way. the other two where very shitty videos. it shows something but it isnt clear. but there are near 100 eye witnesses that say it was a plane!! NO ONE says they seen a missle or anything else!!
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@58ravenfan You make me laugh honestly lol. First of all the pentagon doesnt release the amount of cameras they have for security reasons. So dont make up the number 85 like you know. Secondly there is a hotel that caught everything and the fbi confiscated it immediately and never released it. The hotel even showed where the camera was and it was directly facing the spot where the plane crashed. No need to hide a plane crashign into the pentagon since they are telling everyone its a plane.
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234----------- and if you would wtch "screw loose change" you would see that ALL of the sshit that you heard in "loose change" was complete BS!!
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@flute1234-CONT...The 84/ 85 figure for videos came about as the result of a FOIA request for videos showing the Pentagon impact. FBI Special Agent Jacqueline Maguire responded with the following point: "...I subsequently searched a series of FBI evidence databases, including the FBI's Electronic Case File system and the FBI's Investigative Case Management System, and determined that the FBI possessed eighty-five (85) videotapes that might be potentially responsive to plaintiff's FOIA request.
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@flute1234--CONT...This determination was based on videotapes that had been submitted into FBI evidence, sent directly to the FBI laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, and/or obtained by the FBI's Washington Field Office" The FBI are talking about 85 videos, but this is just the result of an initial search that includes (for example) all videos obtained by the Washington Field Office. If we move on from that then the numbers begin to fall dramatically.
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@flute1234---CONT....56 "of these videotapes did not show either the Pentagon building, the Pentagon crash site, or the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon on September 11."
Of the remaining 29 videotapes, 16 "did not show the Pentagon crash site and did not show the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon."
58ravenfan 1 year ago
@58ravenfan You can keep commenting but its getting boring now you are entitled to beleive what you want but the latest U.S poll said 60% of americans beelive the govt knew abotu these attacks before hand. Wonder why it changed so much from Sept 11th 2001? Because people had time to reasearch and look at it. Use their own brains instead of just beeliveing a govt who has llied to you consistently and harmed much of the world. Sad state of affairs the U.S is in
flute1234 1 year ago
@flute1234---CONT..Of the 13 remaining tapes, 12 "only showed the Pentagon after the impact of Flight 77."
Only one tape showed the Pentagon impact: the Pentagon's own security camera footage, that was later be released. so, as I said 85 NOT hundreds. and most of them where from AFTER th crash or didnt even show the pentagon at all.
58ravenfan 1 year ago