@solly7 Sorry if my bad naughty language offended your childish conservative sensibilities. Once again, we see the hypocrisy of the right wing. You have no problem with letting people starve to death in the name of freedom, but you can't stand profanity.
@451ianDragonist You're just saying that because you know that conservatives are right in every life/death situation. Why don't you try thinking about why we're to strongly opinionated about being FOR abortion, just like you are for being AGAINST it. Every human being, no matter how small, should be allowed to have a life and are a gift of God. Everyone should have a chance, no matter who they turn out to be.
@451ianDragonist You assume facts that may apply to some people, but hardly apply to ALL people. How do you or I know which people your theoretical situations may apply to? We must stand up for ALL innocents, not just the ones who WE decide should live, on whatever capricious whim may strike us on a particular day. The children in your situations could very well rise above them to be good, respectable people. My wife & I have, & my 3 adopted children are growing to be.
@peAkkkTF2 I guess to the average bear it does, just not you. As he said a seed has to be nourished and grow to become a plant. Just because a seed is not yet a plant makes it not a plant at all?
A seed has the characteristics of its parent plant. It won't be anything else. All it requires is growth & nourishment.
A roe has the characteristics of its parents. It won't be anything else but a fish. All it requires is growth & nourishment.
A fetus (which means little one in Latin) has all the characteristics of their parents. They'll never be, nor have they ever been anything else but human. They require growth, nourishment and nurturing.
This is not just a video for mommies, this is a video for babies too!
Think about that, many mothers chose to have each of us as a son/daughter, how great they are. They gave you a life, a family, and a future.
Therefore, these are two ways to NOT support abortion: Help the mothers AND be a good son/daughter to your parents (so the mothers won't be so scared of their childs they abort).
This is one of most emotive videos I've ever seen and heard. Fair enough, but it is totally misleading. None of those foetus' would ever be aborted - it is only legal/acceptable for the first trimester, and afterwards it will only be for emergency medical reasons. And this is also a 'perfect' scenario. What of women who do not have family support, who don't have any network around them, or any financial security, or who didn't have consensual sex, or have mental health problems?
@hamke569 By Supreme Court mandate in the Roe v. Wade & Doe v. Bolton decisions of Jan 1973, a baby can be aborted up to birth and for any reason. The only exception is the partial birth abortion, where a baby is brought all the way out, except for the head. A pair of scissors is then jammed into the back of the neck to allow a suction tube to be inserted so as to remove the brain by vacuum. The head is then crushed and the baby is removed the rest of the way from his/her mother.
@solly7 I'm speaking mainly for NZ here. They do not advise doing it after 12weeks, though they will do it in extreme cases up until 16 weeks. After that, there has to be severe medical reasons to support late term terminations. I do not advocate for late term terminations. And while adoption sounds good in theory, it is often extremely traumatic for the woman to go through with the pregnancy, and then to give up the child. More long term mental health issues from that, than a termination.
@hamke569 In addition, the purpose of crisis pregnancy centers (CPCs) is to provide mothers with support and viable options to deal with their pregnancy. None of the biological mothers for my 3 sons had family support. But, with the support of the CPCs and others in their lives, they allowed their children to continue to live through birth, and then allowed us to adopted them.
The support is there, but it can't be forced on the mothers. But, they're often forced into abortion by family.
I believe abortion is wrong, but I don't think it should be illegal. If someone is going to make the right decision, it should be because they chose to. God doesn't want robots, he wants people who make choices.
@AmericanBadass44 Let me show you how your statement looks when applied to born children.
"I believe that murder is wrong, but I don't think it should be illegal. If someone is going to make the right decision, it should be because they chose to."
We have laws against other murders. It is only in the area of abortion, that we think murder is OK.
@InfidelSlaughter lol what you got against Jesus!? :P I don't mean to be judgmental, but most of you pro-abortion people are really demeaning towards a lot of people. A little acceptance towards others would be nice. I'm not a spiritual human being, but I think life is a gift one person cannot take away from another. If someone took away my opportunity of life, I would never forgive that person..
@InfidelSlaughter BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! the Scientific community has not come to a consensus on abortion, espescially not on it's moral implications. Comparing the removal of a cluster of cells from the uterus of a willing woman to the forced enslavment of an entire human race is ridiculous. You sir, are ridiculous.
@joalbrito Carlin was a fool who tried to obscure what is really being said. What we actually say (because it's what God says) is that, once the sperm and the egg join, you have a human being. ALL that is required, upon fertilization, is growth.
Read Roe v. Wade and Judith Thompson before you go talking about murder and religion - maybe consider that our beloved Constitution protects a woman's right to choose abortion as an option, inherently and implied.
So if the girl gets raped and is pregnant with the rapist kid... she should suffer through 9 months of pregnancy constantly reminding her of her abuse day after day month after month, so that some super-conservative who isn't paying for either the pregnancy, the birth, or the abortion, can feel good about himself? Makes sense.
A woman getting raped is sad and unfortunate, and yes, she suffers everytime when thinking of it. The rapist took her life's innocence away, so she hides by taking an innocent life?
Why compound a problem? Why not make something beautiful from misfortune?
Pro-Lifers defend both the woman who was raped and the child who needs a chance to live.
We have to make choices and sacrifices. But sacrificing a life just for a more comfortable healing process makes less sense.
@SpartaClan According to the law and MOST scientists, the FETUS, ( a baby isnt a baby till it is out of the womb), isnt alive till 1-2 months after conception. Theres no heart beating, no blood pumping, no life. Asking a woman to carry the rapist's child for 9 moths is cruel. Having her stop her life from continuing, from trying to forget the event, from going on, is just inhumane. In the scenario, the woman did not make a choice, yet she has too bare all of the sacrifices and consequences?!
You make a sound argument. And I agree with you as far as a life actually beginning.
A fertilized egg is a fertilized egg, not a baby... yet. My point is, a fertilized egg has the potential to become a life. Killing the potential for life is equal to killing life. In both scenarios, the life is lost.
And to answer your question; sometimes bad things happen to all of us, we have no control over what "has" happened. Nor does the baby.
We do, however, have control of what will happen. With a child or not, the woman victim will be scarred for life. This I have no doubt. But a scarred life is better than no life at all.
The baby can't even settle for a scarred life. It's stuck in a battle in which it has no hope. The baby IS there. Not in the present, but in the future.
I'm not trying to say rape victims shouldn't have that option. I just simply disagree with the choice many would make.
@joalbrito Actually, what we pro-lifers are saying is that we shouldn't treat unborn children like this nation used to treat slaves - as less than human.
It takes the fertilization of the woman's egg by the man's sperm to make a baby. When that happens, the mother has no period. Ergo, Carlin was, as usual, way off the mark.
"But even after the egg is fertilized, it's still six or seven days before it reaches the uterus and pregnancy begins, and not every egg makes it that far. Eighty percent of a woman's fertilized eggs are rinsed and flushed out of her body once a month during those delightful few days she has. They wind up on sanitary napkins, and yet they are fertilized eggs." The few sentences before the one I quoted in my previous comment.
@solly7 Yeah, i know. And George Carlin could be funny sometimes but yeah like his other quote "Why is it that pro-life people are always the last people you would want to f***!" Clearly Carlin never watched The View.
You know, I could see your point, but are these babies trying to wage war on you?? The bible says "thou shalt not kill:. Interpret that how you want, but there's absolutely NO reason to murder a child, in or out of the womb. "It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish" ~Mother Theresa
@Blackfang31 A simple study of the Bible shows that, when the Israelites were attacked, God did have them defend themselves. That is why it is called "self-defense". Throughout the Bible, God makes it abundantly clear that we must stand against evil.
i am against all kinds of killing:war,self-defense,and abortion,its all killing and murder.the Bible says "Thou shalt not kill",it doesnt say "Thou shalt not kill unless you have a baby and dont want it or its self defense or in a time of war".if you take a life that means you have p-ut your self in the position of a gudge meaning you can say what goes and what doesnt.we all have sinned and that means NONE of us have the right to kill,under ANY sercumstances.
@Blackfang31 What the Bible actually says, in it's original translation, is: "Thou shalt not do murder!". Murder is the taking of an innocent life, the spilling of innocent blood. Ergo, self-defense and time of war are acceptable times when taking a life might be necessary. As you point out, killing an innocent, unborn child, is not.
The Bible says you shall not murder. It plainly allows killing in self defense on a personal level or country level. It also prescribes the death penalty for those who commit murder.
How can we expect people to believe us when we tell them killing is wrong when we often counsel a young mother to be to end her own child's life... The murder rate has gone up. And you know what...People don't care as much about rape now. Because the girl can always "get rid of it" if she gets pregnant.
I love this video i just recently had to do a speech with a visual aide in my speech class and i used this video. PRO LIFE all the way. and to MarcDarko....I dont even know what to say to you except grow up and abortion may be legal know but i believe that will change in the future
My mother educated me, she told me never to tear somebody down based on their opinions. We are all human, we are sometimes misguided in our opinions. And to prove a point, people have said that only religious people view it as a sin. I believe there is a God, but I am not religious, I don't pray, or go to Church. It's a matter of knowing right and wrong.
They are calling Abortion the Holocaust of our time. How can so many people stand up and say killing people for no reason was a horrible crime. When we, in America do the same thing every day. What gives us the right, to end anothers life? What is the difference in a day? It is legal to kill your baby in the womb, but the second it comes out of your womb, it's murder? It's murder anyway you look at it. We are not God, we do not have the right to decide who lives and who dies.
Here in America we are entitled to LIFE liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Liberals will go easier on a mass murderer than an unborn baby. It just doesn't make sense.
I got to admit man, even though im not a religious person, when we human beings destroy our own babies like that, I shudder when I think GOD exists. It just seems so disrespectful to life.
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You are comparing an aborted fetus to a slave? Now you are just being a self-serving racist. Your anger doesn't help your cause. It isn't passion, it's just being pissy.
Abortion is legal. Deal with it. I'm sure if your parents knew what a whiny little pissant you would turn out to be they may have explored other options....
Second, Yes, I do compare the 2. In both cases, we have a group of people who have been declared, not by any scientific measure, but by judicial caveat, that they are less than human. The fact that you choose to ignore the similarity doesn't lessen the similarity.
If you've ever looked at my profile, you know that I'm far from a racist. However, I expect little when you close your eyes to the simple truth.
My whole family happens to be proud of my fight for the rights of the unborn. More importantly, my Father in Heaven is pleased. They are also very accepting & loving of my children, all of which escaped from your solution.
Slaves had NO choice and neither does the unborn baby.
"Everyone who supported slavery was free and everyone who supports abortion has already been born. That's how oppression works. "They're not really people" yeah we've heard that before."
And it was the right of the slave owners to kill their slaves because blacks were considered only 3/5 human, also by Supreme Court decree.
Should we go back to those days, as well?
I am constantly astounded that you & yours can argue for the killing of a child so vigorously & can claim to be so concerned about their mother yet, you do nothing to help that mother through the circumstance behind which you stand in such a cowardly manner.
With abortion ... we punish the rapist, the fornicator, the self-involved carefree copulators ... by killing the child. This passes for freedom in some quarters. Shocking.
Ask the unborn how they feel about your version of freedom. It's probably more like darkness and smothering. Your choice of words has strayed into hyperbolic mode again in an effort to insult. I haven't insulted you. But then, I couldn't care less. Youtube is hardly the Harvard Debating Society. I know liberals have to see everything in black and white, so it may interest you to know that I detest the idea of capital punishment. Sorry I couldn't fit into a nice neat compartment for you.
Abortion is such a sterile terms ... let's just calling it what it is; sucking a baby down a sink. You know, the thing that strikes me every time I drive by one of these "pro-choice" rallies is that all those people who are for abortion have already been born.
Pro-life is such a sterile term... let's just call it what it is; anti-freedom. You know, the thing that strikes me every time I argue with one of these wingnut idiots on Youtube is how they claim that everyone who disagrees with them hates freedom as they make it their personal mission to suppress that very concept.
I agree that there should be freedom. I do not believe that a person's individual freedom should impede or oppress another person. A mother's "freedom" to abort her child, impedes her child's freedom to live.
Show me any other aspect of society where an individual has the freedom to arbitrarily end the life of another, simply because they happen to be an inconvenience.
If people are able "to rise out of the mud and achieve because they have the ability to do that" then the capricious "need" for abortion is rendered moot.
In no other situation in a civilized society is an individual allotted the the "right" to end the life - to kill - another person.
Only in abortion is that considered OK. And that's accomplished only by denying the proven humanity of the unborn child, much as slavery was allowed by denying the humanity of Dred Scott & people of his culture.
You allow that people can pull themselves out of their situations yet, you won't recognize that, by pulling themselves out of the mud, the "need" for abortion no longer exists.
There is no guarantee that anyone's life will be miserable. Any circumstances, including the ill-perceived need for aborting a child, can be changed when one seeks the positive alternatives that will improve their life AND that of their child.
Why bring a life into a world if it is certain to be miserable?
Hell is way deep down in the ground. You can see it when a premature crack addicted baby struggles to breath because radical nutjobs, like yourself sully proclaim what is and isn't right in this world.
Abortion will always exist. The day it doesn't, that is the day people stop fornicating.
There is no certainty that an unborn child will be miserable if she/he is born. Humans have the capability of rising beyond their environment, if they so choose. I've done it, & I'm not the only one.
You imply that people are stuck in their situation, forever. That need not be the case.
You present nothing more than a convenient excuse to justify selfishness.
You just contradicted yourself. It doesn't keep you human to value SOME lives & keep them sacred. If you value life, you should value all human life, INCLUDING the unborn.
It is this schizophrenic attitude used to separate the born & unborn that rips away at our humanity. It is the reason that we now have little trouble with killing newborns, or the elderly & infirmed.
As long as you deny the unborn their right to life, you lessen your own humanity.
MURDER IS WRONG! I mean, it's OK as long as you're killing a grown man with a life's worth of experience who has made meaningful connections with other human beings and is making a misguided attempt to defend his country and/or he has dismal/no career prospects and was recruited by an American-installed despot or rebel faction. Bombs are OK, as long as they don't kill any fetuses (and I'm sure they never do)
...But killing a fetus that is gestating inside an American woman? ABOMINATION!
Your politics against the US is hardly a reason to mcondone the murder of unborn children &, in many cases, their mothers.
It is an honor to serve in this country. Many people have. To defend the freedoms we have sometimes take sacrifice, including our own lives. We who have served, & do serve now, understand that.
However, your selfishness not withstanding, those freedoms do not include a concocted freedom to kill one's own child.
You say killing is wrong, but what about protecting those who can't protect themselves isn't that just as wrong? Yes, I joined the army. I would do it again in a heart beat. My fiancee is too. So your anger is misguided. We protect those who can't protect themselves. Whether they be babies, grown adults, or the elderly. It's all the same to us. We even defend people like you. Think about that.
I have sat through an entire song by Nickelback. I have stomached an entire album by Insane Clown Posse.
This is still the worst song that I have ever heard. I am a pro-life person who doesn't judge abortion as murder, but rather simply frowns upon those who choose to carry it out, but this is song is a sack of absolute shit. It's not as simple as they're saying, end of story. Carrying around a child for nine months and pushing it through your vagina is hard.
How does the circumstance of carrying the baby & delivering mean that adoption is wrong?
Adoption allows that child to be raised in a home where the parents can provide for him/her. The biological mother is quite brave & shows a HUGE amount of love for their child in allowing someone to adopt that child & raise them.
If you don't like the song (which sounds more like a matter of style), fine. However, that doesn't render the whole adoption concept moot.
Man, when did I ever say that adoption is wrong? Adoption is a fantastic method for allowing, for lack of a better word, unwanted children to still have kind and loving parents. I'm just saying that this whole issue isn't as easy as just allowing the child to be born after birth.
I think Graham Parker said it best. You can't be too strong, too right, too wrong.
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This is a sick video. If mothers choose to carry their children to term, they need to keep them and raise them, and we need to help them do that. Adoption is not an option.
Adoption was the loving adoption was the loving option that the biological mothers of each of my sons chose.
In your way, either the mother lets her baby continue to live & be born, or the baby dies.
In the real world, adoption allows the child to continue their life & allows the mother to avoid carrying the guilt of having had their baby killed, with the possibility that they may 1 day be reunited.
Our current population is in decline, at such a rate that it may soon get to the point where we can't recover. There has never been an over population problem.
Now, there are places where the concentration of people makes it seem as such. However, the actual population is, in no way, in a state of over population.
How could anyone kill a beautiful baby?! George Tiller was a monster for killing over 60,000 babies! Before feeling sorry for him think of all the babies that he killed.
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Wake up America?? LOL i say "Wake up CHristians" not everybody shares your views. and it is shitty to think that your view is "Right" view.. it is merely your opinion. You do what you want... and let others do as they want.
The view that pro-life Christians present is that of our Creator, the One who created you & me, and these children.
By your logic, we shouldn't jail, try & convict anyone who murders a born person. We should let them them do as they want. It's only our opinion that they are murderers.
In reviewing your many posts in this thread I can see you damn us for our "opinions" yet demand we adopt yours...(yeah that's a pun) Pray for guidance, clearly you have been misinformed! OBTW, Christians have already awaken to the lies of the left...
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So you took this reply down because of the word "hell"?You have got to be kidding...right?my reply..And your musical favorites.Clueless Amerikkkan.Dylan may sometimes only use 3 chords but it's his improvisation at a song when he plays live and his time signatures(he plays w/ time in a rock/folk setting as Thelonious Monk played w/ time in jazz).Hell I don't need to give you a musical education unless you would like to pay for it like the rest of my students...
I am sure if you had the opportunity to ask Jimi Hendrix about Bob Dylan he could have told you a thing or two...and if he was alive he certainly would NOT have covered this trainwreck of a song! God Bless you!
I love how If this guy does not like the reply...even though I've used no "under the BIG TENT" curse words he or she just deletes it...such a riot! God Bless MOM and APPLE PIE! See ya in CHURCH!
The ONLY comments I've deleted have been for offensive and vulgar language. Other than that, I've allowed you & those like you to make all the ignorant remarks you so desire.
I am sorry to send this comment to you,but it has been circulating in youtube for a long time. When it was received 1 month ago by a man named Grayson, he ignores it, and dies when his house collapses on him.2 weeks ago, someone named Harvey receives it,but he ignores this comment and was killed by a bullet. 10 days ago, a woman named Fifi reads it,and she dies in a car accident. You must now post this comment on 15 other videos, or else soon you will meet with a horrible death.Swear its true
dontcha love how conservatives see everything in black and white..... i bet 90% of "pro-life"rs don't give two shits about kids waiting to be adopted, much less adopt them themselves...
As usual, you're speaking from a position of ignorance. Or do you think I should give back my 3 adopted sons? Or maybe all the other pro-lifers should give back all their adopted children, just so your statement can be accurate.
Overcrowding you are as stupid as the person that is trying to brainwash that in your head. People die everyday and there is room for everyone to have the chance at life ...
Yes, Let's make overcrowding of our cities worse. A women has the right to do whatever she wants to with her unborn child. It doesn't have rights till after its born. What we should do is if a women has an abortion more then once sterilize her so she cant procreate anymore.
1. Overcrowding is a myth. Just thought you might want to know that.
2. According to the SCOTUS decisions of 1973, they did take the right to continued life away from the unborn child. Of course, SCOTUS also once denied rights to blacks, saying that they were no more than 3/5th human. The Democrats cheered that decision, too. They even said that each state should be pro-choice about slavery.
Silentjuggalo, The baby has the same rights as you and I from the moment of conception. A mother does not have the right to kill her unborn child any more than I have the right to kill you. Life is a God given right, given to every person born or unborn. young or old.
I mean seriourly u could be killing the next president of the USA have the respect to what u created to give it a chance to live even if ur going to give he/she away at birth
"does anyone remember babies and children dying from coat hangers?" So who's the blackhearted cold blooded hate monger now? Me because I didn't vote for the Black Nominee since I don't believe in Marxism? Or the cold blooded baby killer? STFU Noiseyigor. YOUR'RE the hate monger.
Sure,lets go backwards and leave it up to these southern states...does anyone remember babies and children dying from coat hangers? Oh,and thes "RIGHT BROTHERS"...I wonder what Bob Dylan thinks of these talentless bafoons...jeezus why do so many AmeriKKKans have such horrible taste in music? These guys need to go back doing construction work.
You can't possibly believe that abortions didn't exist before abortion clinics. Abortion is part of age-old semantics in the human psyche. The moral thing however, is to identify that women are forcing themselves to undergo back-alley surgeries and give them a safe alternative and a refined medical process, so that they don't mutilate their own uterus'. Or at least that's what someone with a normal moral compass and not a totally fucked christian moral compass might agree with.
I never said abortion didn't exist before Roe. Abortion is in the Bible, and it was evil then, as well. Your so-called "safe alternative" isn't safe for the mother's child, or the mother.
It is never moral to agree to any scenario that allows for an innocent person to die. That is a foolish premise on your part.
I would like all of you to clean up the language a little. Disagreement doesn't call for gutter language. Only the lack of a credible argument brings out the trashy talk.
Ok, lets take an analogy. Rape is illegal- but it happens right? And in these "back alley rapes" women are often severly injured and somtimes killed because the rapist doesn't want to be ID'ed. There is a simple solution to this- legalize rape! And how about build "Rape centers" the men can take the women to( no resistance alowed, of course) so the rape can take pkace in a "safe alternative", inside and safe. Then women wouldn't be as hurt, its "safe and legal"
Really? Most people would not undergo a life-threatening procedure to abort a child. They'd suck it up and live with their mistakes, which is the way it should be.
And did you just imply that Bob Dylan has talent? Really? All he plays is 3 chord progressions, and sings in a horrible voice. You can teach a monkey to do that. Bob Dylan got lucky. Of course, he did write the framework that gave us excellent music in the form of Hendrix's "All Along the Watchtower" and GNR "Knockin on Heavens Door"
well i think if your a stupid whore and cant keep your legs closed thats your problem. dont kill the baby dumbass. now if your raped, then why make two bad things come out of one situation?? its called adoption
In Germany there aren't any bands who make conservative punk. no bands are singing about the conservative christian party. all the punks bands are singing about socialism and anarchy. that's fuckin' borin'.
I think I made a pretty valid point, and for the record I am not in any way, shape or form a liberal. The only thing I am against more than abortion is shitty music. So please, let me thank you back for representing the idiot conservative demographic that's going to lose us the current election. Bitching about liberals incessantly will be our demise, I guarantee it.
I am not sure if you are christian or not but if you believe that the baby should not have to pay for the mother's mistake then why are we paying for Adam and Eve's mistake? (supposedly)and what about rape victims? No one gets raped by 'mistake'. No one except the Mother should be allowed to dictate what happens to her body especially if it concerns religious belief. I am not exactly for abortion but I am not against it either. Belief should not over ride reality and common sense.
Do you know the statistics from rape? I don't think that women who have been raped would consider themselves as a 'red herring'
Yes women do have choice. They have the ultimate choice when it concerns their body. It is not as simple as keeping your legs closed or not and by the way raped victims didn't even have that choice and just because it is rare does not make the issue/problem go away or easier to solve! the issue of abortion is unique to every situation there is no blanket answer.
I do agree with you that we should take full responsibility for our actions and we should do every thing we can to prevent having to make such a terrible choice.
I also agree that freedom is something we should not abuse but I am sure that you will agree with me when I say life is not predictable and horrible things do happen no matter how much precaution we take. I don't think a mother would ever take the decision to abort lightly.
But it should be her choice and she will have to live with it.
If A=B and B=C, then A=C. If a brick is part of a wall, and the wall is part of a house- then the brick is part of the house. Common sence, right? So, if the baby is part of the mother, and the feet are part of the baby- then the feet are part of the mother. If the baby was part of the mother, the mother would have 2 brains, 4 eyes, 4 feet, 2 noses, 4 arms, and if the baby was male- what would the mothers gender be?
I could go around and leave asinine comments on Rage Against the Machine videos. But unlike some, I actually have respect both for other people's political views and their music tastes. Now GTFO asshole.
i like how the woman in the video is a typical stereotype blonde. if she was black or any other minority, conservatives would have no problem with her having an abortion.
I'm a Christian conservative. I have 3 adopted children, all from what would be considered minority cultures.
2/3 of the mothers who have abortions are minorities. We fight as strongly for them as for all the other mothers.
Of course, I realise you're not interested in anything as unimportant as truth. That would get in the way of your blind prejudice. I just wanted to make sure that you have to face it, if only this one time.
i understand where you are coming from and respect it. this is a really complicated debate, but it's necessary. there's a misconception among a lot of pro-lifers that being pro-choice is "pro-abortion," and it's not. we want to end abortion too, but also protect the mother in the process. abstinence is an option, but not the most realistic approach because the sex drive is one of our strongest drives. i believe that education is a lot more effective than a constitutional amendment.
I will send you an email showing you, a)we are winning in Iraq militarily and in the hearts of the people, b)terrorism is on the run, c)how the rich pay most of our taxes and thusly pay for the war, d)Clinton is more likely a cause of the war than a saint of it. Its apparent to me that we need a constitutional amendment to stop this murdurous practice. Education doesnt decrease the frequency of murder and I dont think it would do it for abortion either.
disclaimer: i am pro choice, but i believe abortion should be the absolute last resort. it's a really horrible, horrible decision for anyone to make.
education is key, my friends. making abortion illegal will not put an end to or even reduce the "murder" you are so outraged about. the stats are out there - google it instead of listening to the right brothers.
even more confounding is that many people claim they don't believe in situational ethics (moral relativity). the reality is that they actually DO because they believe abortion is murder, but killing is admissable at the hands of a soldier.
remember your 10 commandments folks - thou shalt not kill. maybe i missed the translation, but i don't remember any addendum to the bible stating that killing is forgiven in the act of war.
me? i believe in situational ethics because i'm sane.
Now for your "shall not kill" business. Most Bible scholars are now in agreement that its more accurate to translate the Hebrew as "shall not murder", this translation is agreed upon by two messianic Rabbis who know Hebrew who live in my area(Rabbi Brent Fiedler of Beth Shalom and Rabbi Joseph Bell of Lion of Judah).
"most bible scholars"? are you serious? how do you explain the 50 gazillion different denominations in the christian church alone? i'll explain it - because the term "organized religion" is an oxy-moron. no two human beings believe exactly the same thing.
i would define "murder" as taking the life of someone w/o their consent and not in an act of self-defense.
"killing" innocent civilians is murder, so is abortion, etc.
whether you realize it or not, you're merely making my point.
I'm not going to bother to squabble with you about the difference between a bible scholar(a person who studies the text and translation of the bible) and a religious scholar(a person who studies the beliefs of a certain sect of a religion), because i think it will get me nowhere. I believe that public execution also doesn't qualify for murder, at least for me. So are you making a point for or against abortion, if your saying its murder then it sounds like an argument against abortion.
"So are you making a point for or against abortion, if your saying its murder then it sounds like an argument against abortion."
to everything there is a season.
sometimes, "murder" is the right thing, sometimes it's not. i think this much is obvious, and you've pointed it out by agreeing that, in certain situations, it would be "acceptable," (if not merciful) and you are 100% correct.
I would also suggest that you read Deuteronomy 20, Joel 3:10, Ecc 3:8, not to mention the wars that God Himself commanded to happen.
I agree that in a few emergency situations abortion might be acceptable, but to say that making it illegal will not reduce its frequency is maddening. I guess you would also suggest laws against marijuana doesn't decrees its frequency, and who needs regular murder laws anyway, murder still happens right?
okay, so we agree that, in certain situations, abortion is "acceptable" (worse case scenario: e.g, a women is raped by her AIDS-infected father and impregnated).
whether you realize it or not, that makes you pro-choice (not pro-abortion - i don't know anyone who is actually "pro-abortion").
@451ianDragonist I don't allow obscene, foul language on here. If you want to repost, without the cursing, then fine.
solly7 1 week ago
@solly7 Sorry if my bad naughty language offended your childish conservative sensibilities. Once again, we see the hypocrisy of the right wing. You have no problem with letting people starve to death in the name of freedom, but you can't stand profanity.
451ianDragonist 1 week ago
@451ianDragonist And just where would all these people that are starving coming from?
solly7 5 days ago
@solly7 Corporations, in many cases.
451ianDragonist 5 days ago
redneck retards.
StraytRayzorSymphony 1 week ago
@451ianDragonist You're just saying that because you know that conservatives are right in every life/death situation. Why don't you try thinking about why we're to strongly opinionated about being FOR abortion, just like you are for being AGAINST it. Every human being, no matter how small, should be allowed to have a life and are a gift of God. Everyone should have a chance, no matter who they turn out to be.
WarriorXofXGallifrey 3 weeks ago
@WarriorXofXGallifrey God doesn't exist, and I'm not for abortion. I'm for choice.
451ianDragonist 3 weeks ago
@451ianDragonist You assume facts that may apply to some people, but hardly apply to ALL people. How do you or I know which people your theoretical situations may apply to? We must stand up for ALL innocents, not just the ones who WE decide should live, on whatever capricious whim may strike us on a particular day. The children in your situations could very well rise above them to be good, respectable people. My wife & I have, & my 3 adopted children are growing to be.
solly7 3 weeks ago
61 people hate children
pcguy36 2 months ago
@peAkkkTF2 I guess to the average bear it does, just not you. As he said a seed has to be nourished and grow to become a plant. Just because a seed is not yet a plant makes it not a plant at all?
Danielrulz40 4 months ago
A seed has the characteristics of its parent plant. It won't be anything else. All it requires is growth & nourishment.
A roe has the characteristics of its parents. It won't be anything else but a fish. All it requires is growth & nourishment.
A fetus (which means little one in Latin) has all the characteristics of their parents. They'll never be, nor have they ever been anything else but human. They require growth, nourishment and nurturing.
An eagle in the egg is still an eagle.
solly7 7 months ago 2
You dont call seed a plant
You dont call roe a fish.
Then why do you call a fedus a person?
It just doesnt make any sense.
peAkkkTF2 7 months ago
*tears* TTnTT
This is not just a video for mommies, this is a video for babies too!
Think about that, many mothers chose to have each of us as a son/daughter, how great they are. They gave you a life, a family, and a future.
Therefore, these are two ways to NOT support abortion: Help the mothers AND be a good son/daughter to your parents (so the mothers won't be so scared of their childs they abort).
TheHiroyukiutatane 8 months ago
@TheHiroyukiutatane Another way not to support it is to be a good mom/dad to your children.
LovedbcHim 4 months ago
This is one of most emotive videos I've ever seen and heard. Fair enough, but it is totally misleading. None of those foetus' would ever be aborted - it is only legal/acceptable for the first trimester, and afterwards it will only be for emergency medical reasons. And this is also a 'perfect' scenario. What of women who do not have family support, who don't have any network around them, or any financial security, or who didn't have consensual sex, or have mental health problems?
hamke569 10 months ago
@hamke569 By Supreme Court mandate in the Roe v. Wade & Doe v. Bolton decisions of Jan 1973, a baby can be aborted up to birth and for any reason. The only exception is the partial birth abortion, where a baby is brought all the way out, except for the head. A pair of scissors is then jammed into the back of the neck to allow a suction tube to be inserted so as to remove the brain by vacuum. The head is then crushed and the baby is removed the rest of the way from his/her mother.
solly7 9 months ago
@solly7 I'm speaking mainly for NZ here. They do not advise doing it after 12weeks, though they will do it in extreme cases up until 16 weeks. After that, there has to be severe medical reasons to support late term terminations. I do not advocate for late term terminations. And while adoption sounds good in theory, it is often extremely traumatic for the woman to go through with the pregnancy, and then to give up the child. More long term mental health issues from that, than a termination.
hamke569 9 months ago
@hamke569 In addition, the purpose of crisis pregnancy centers (CPCs) is to provide mothers with support and viable options to deal with their pregnancy. None of the biological mothers for my 3 sons had family support. But, with the support of the CPCs and others in their lives, they allowed their children to continue to live through birth, and then allowed us to adopted them.
The support is there, but it can't be forced on the mothers. But, they're often forced into abortion by family.
solly7 9 months ago
BABYS CANT TALK - ABORT THE PROPOGANDA!
actionist2009 11 months ago
The only one who "wins" in abortion is the abortionist, who makes a ton of money each day committing abortions.
solly7 11 months ago
Abortion is "for the win" as the kids say.
dhead22 11 months ago
I believe abortion is wrong, but I don't think it should be illegal. If someone is going to make the right decision, it should be because they chose to. God doesn't want robots, he wants people who make choices.
AmericanBadass44 11 months ago
@AmericanBadass44 Let me show you how your statement looks when applied to born children.
"I believe that murder is wrong, but I don't think it should be illegal. If someone is going to make the right decision, it should be because they chose to."
We have laws against other murders. It is only in the area of abortion, that we think murder is OK.
solly7 11 months ago
@InfidelSlaughter lol what you got against Jesus!? :P I don't mean to be judgmental, but most of you pro-abortion people are really demeaning towards a lot of people. A little acceptance towards others would be nice. I'm not a spiritual human being, but I think life is a gift one person cannot take away from another. If someone took away my opportunity of life, I would never forgive that person..
ohedd 1 year ago
@InfidelSlaughter BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! the Scientific community has not come to a consensus on abortion, espescially not on it's moral implications. Comparing the removal of a cluster of cells from the uterus of a willing woman to the forced enslavment of an entire human race is ridiculous. You sir, are ridiculous.
InfidelSlaughter 1 year ago
@joalbrito Carlin was a fool who tried to obscure what is really being said. What we actually say (because it's what God says) is that, once the sperm and the egg join, you have a human being. ALL that is required, upon fertilization, is growth.
solly7 1 year ago
@solly7 You say that "god" (whatever this is) says something and you call somebody else a fool?!
And nope. When the sperm and the eggs join, you have a cell, then a fetus. And long after that you have a human being.
joalbrito 1 year ago
Read Roe v. Wade and Judith Thompson before you go talking about murder and religion - maybe consider that our beloved Constitution protects a woman's right to choose abortion as an option, inherently and implied.
KcKommunistisch 1 year ago
So if the girl gets raped and is pregnant with the rapist kid... she should suffer through 9 months of pregnancy constantly reminding her of her abuse day after day month after month, so that some super-conservative who isn't paying for either the pregnancy, the birth, or the abortion, can feel good about himself? Makes sense.
123hahahha123 1 year ago
@123hahahha123
A woman getting raped is sad and unfortunate, and yes, she suffers everytime when thinking of it. The rapist took her life's innocence away, so she hides by taking an innocent life?
Why compound a problem? Why not make something beautiful from misfortune?
Pro-Lifers defend both the woman who was raped and the child who needs a chance to live.
We have to make choices and sacrifices. But sacrificing a life just for a more comfortable healing process makes less sense.
SpartaClan 1 year ago
@SpartaClan According to the law and MOST scientists, the FETUS, ( a baby isnt a baby till it is out of the womb), isnt alive till 1-2 months after conception. Theres no heart beating, no blood pumping, no life. Asking a woman to carry the rapist's child for 9 moths is cruel. Having her stop her life from continuing, from trying to forget the event, from going on, is just inhumane. In the scenario, the woman did not make a choice, yet she has too bare all of the sacrifices and consequences?!
123hahahha123 1 year ago
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SpartaClan 1 year ago
@123hahahha123
You make a sound argument. And I agree with you as far as a life actually beginning.
A fertilized egg is a fertilized egg, not a baby... yet. My point is, a fertilized egg has the potential to become a life. Killing the potential for life is equal to killing life. In both scenarios, the life is lost.
And to answer your question; sometimes bad things happen to all of us, we have no control over what "has" happened. Nor does the baby.
cont.
SpartaClan 1 year ago
(cont from above)
We do, however, have control of what will happen. With a child or not, the woman victim will be scarred for life. This I have no doubt. But a scarred life is better than no life at all.
The baby can't even settle for a scarred life. It's stuck in a battle in which it has no hope. The baby IS there. Not in the present, but in the future.
I'm not trying to say rape victims shouldn't have that option. I just simply disagree with the choice many would make.
SpartaClan 1 year ago
@joalbrito Actually, what we pro-lifers are saying is that we shouldn't treat unborn children like this nation used to treat slaves - as less than human.
It takes the fertilization of the woman's egg by the man's sperm to make a baby. When that happens, the mother has no period. Ergo, Carlin was, as usual, way off the mark.
solly7 1 year ago
@solly7 Are you sure?
"But even after the egg is fertilized, it's still six or seven days before it reaches the uterus and pregnancy begins, and not every egg makes it that far. Eighty percent of a woman's fertilized eggs are rinsed and flushed out of her body once a month during those delightful few days she has. They wind up on sanitary napkins, and yet they are fertilized eggs." The few sentences before the one I quoted in my previous comment.
joalbrito 1 year ago
@joalbrito
Using your logic I can state; It's ok to kill people, because they die naturally all the time.
SpartaClan 1 year ago
@solly7 And what else do you think G. Carlin was 'wrong' about?
War? Religion? Capitalism? Nationalism?
joalbrito 1 year ago
@solly7 Yeah, i know. And George Carlin could be funny sometimes but yeah like his other quote "Why is it that pro-life people are always the last people you would want to f***!" Clearly Carlin never watched The View.
whwsjackfrost 1 year ago
You know, I could see your point, but are these babies trying to wage war on you?? The bible says "thou shalt not kill:. Interpret that how you want, but there's absolutely NO reason to murder a child, in or out of the womb. "It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish" ~Mother Theresa
sunnyites5 1 year ago
@solly7
where in the Bible does it say you have the power to condemn a man to death because he attacked you or threatened your country?
Blackfang31 1 year ago
@Blackfang31 A simple study of the Bible shows that, when the Israelites were attacked, God did have them defend themselves. That is why it is called "self-defense". Throughout the Bible, God makes it abundantly clear that we must stand against evil.
solly7 1 year ago
i am against all kinds of killing:war,self-defense,and abortion,its all killing and murder.the Bible says "Thou shalt not kill",it doesnt say "Thou shalt not kill unless you have a baby and dont want it or its self defense or in a time of war".if you take a life that means you have p-ut your self in the position of a gudge meaning you can say what goes and what doesnt.we all have sinned and that means NONE of us have the right to kill,under ANY sercumstances.
Blackfang31 1 year ago
@Blackfang31 What the Bible actually says, in it's original translation, is: "Thou shalt not do murder!". Murder is the taking of an innocent life, the spilling of innocent blood. Ergo, self-defense and time of war are acceptable times when taking a life might be necessary. As you point out, killing an innocent, unborn child, is not.
solly7 1 year ago
@MarcDarko
hey guess what?its legal for me to come and kick your ass but does that make it right?
Blackfang31 1 year ago
The Bible says you shall not murder. It plainly allows killing in self defense on a personal level or country level. It also prescribes the death penalty for those who commit murder.
edinvestor1 1 year ago
Exactly, you're awesome!
AmericanBadass44 1 year ago
@edinvestor1 You have it exactly right.
solly7 1 year ago
video quality sucks, i wanna see some blood, but the lyrics are awesome!!!!!
hindukid8 1 year ago
Right on...abortion is a sad terrible thing. I'm glad we have the adoption option. I could never have an abortion....its to sad.
Stretch2011akw 1 year ago
ihr amis seit einfach irre
Isharod1 1 year ago
I love what this is standing against, but I hate that it is nessisary. Who`s with me here?
KaylahDemi 2 years ago
How can we expect people to believe us when we tell them killing is wrong when we often counsel a young mother to be to end her own child's life... The murder rate has gone up. And you know what...People don't care as much about rape now. Because the girl can always "get rid of it" if she gets pregnant.
PRO LIFE all the way!
CrAsDb 2 years ago
i have been tryin to download this on itunes and i can't find it.
xomiifantasyox 2 years ago
I love this video i just recently had to do a speech with a visual aide in my speech class and i used this video. PRO LIFE all the way. and to MarcDarko....I dont even know what to say to you except grow up and abortion may be legal know but i believe that will change in the future
USCB09 2 years ago 6
My mother educated me, she told me never to tear somebody down based on their opinions. We are all human, we are sometimes misguided in our opinions. And to prove a point, people have said that only religious people view it as a sin. I believe there is a God, but I am not religious, I don't pray, or go to Church. It's a matter of knowing right and wrong.
amelemon15 2 years ago
They are calling Abortion the Holocaust of our time. How can so many people stand up and say killing people for no reason was a horrible crime. When we, in America do the same thing every day. What gives us the right, to end anothers life? What is the difference in a day? It is legal to kill your baby in the womb, but the second it comes out of your womb, it's murder? It's murder anyway you look at it. We are not God, we do not have the right to decide who lives and who dies.
amelemon15 2 years ago
Here in America we are entitled to LIFE liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Liberals will go easier on a mass murderer than an unborn baby. It just doesn't make sense.
Novaessrussia 2 years ago 3
I got to admit man, even though im not a religious person, when we human beings destroy our own babies like that, I shudder when I think GOD exists. It just seems so disrespectful to life.
preyator 2 years ago
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You are comparing an aborted fetus to a slave? Now you are just being a self-serving racist. Your anger doesn't help your cause. It isn't passion, it's just being pissy.
Abortion is legal. Deal with it. I'm sure if your parents knew what a whiny little pissant you would turn out to be they may have explored other options....
MarcDarko 2 years ago
First off, as you know, I've shown no anger here.
Second, Yes, I do compare the 2. In both cases, we have a group of people who have been declared, not by any scientific measure, but by judicial caveat, that they are less than human. The fact that you choose to ignore the similarity doesn't lessen the similarity.
If you've ever looked at my profile, you know that I'm far from a racist. However, I expect little when you close your eyes to the simple truth.
solly7 2 years ago
My whole family happens to be proud of my fight for the rights of the unborn. More importantly, my Father in Heaven is pleased. They are also very accepting & loving of my children, all of which escaped from your solution.
solly7 2 years ago
you are a disgusting human being.
GBVrallyCI 2 years ago
Slaves had NO choice and neither does the unborn baby.
"Everyone who supported slavery was free and everyone who supports abortion has already been born. That's how oppression works. "They're not really people" yeah we've heard that before."
lizmov 2 years ago 4
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its a woman's right.
MarcDarko 2 years ago
And it was the right of the slave owners to kill their slaves because blacks were considered only 3/5 human, also by Supreme Court decree.
Should we go back to those days, as well?
I am constantly astounded that you & yours can argue for the killing of a child so vigorously & can claim to be so concerned about their mother yet, you do nothing to help that mother through the circumstance behind which you stand in such a cowardly manner.
You who are pro-abortion are, indeed, cowards.
solly7 2 years ago
With abortion ... we punish the rapist, the fornicator, the self-involved carefree copulators ... by killing the child. This passes for freedom in some quarters. Shocking.
ZELIG500 2 years ago
Ask the unborn how they feel about your version of freedom. It's probably more like darkness and smothering. Your choice of words has strayed into hyperbolic mode again in an effort to insult. I haven't insulted you. But then, I couldn't care less. Youtube is hardly the Harvard Debating Society. I know liberals have to see everything in black and white, so it may interest you to know that I detest the idea of capital punishment. Sorry I couldn't fit into a nice neat compartment for you.
ZELIG500 2 years ago
Abortion is such a sterile terms ... let's just calling it what it is; sucking a baby down a sink. You know, the thing that strikes me every time I drive by one of these "pro-choice" rallies is that all those people who are for abortion have already been born.
ZELIG500 2 years ago
Pro-life is such a sterile term... let's just call it what it is; anti-freedom. You know, the thing that strikes me every time I argue with one of these wingnut idiots on Youtube is how they claim that everyone who disagrees with them hates freedom as they make it their personal mission to suppress that very concept.
nekkidandrew 2 years ago
I agree that there should be freedom. I do not believe that a person's individual freedom should impede or oppress another person. A mother's "freedom" to abort her child, impedes her child's freedom to live.
Show me any other aspect of society where an individual has the freedom to arbitrarily end the life of another, simply because they happen to be an inconvenience.
solly7 2 years ago
People can choose to rise out of the mud and achieve because they have the ability to do that.
That ability comes from free will. Abortions are necessary and will be legal.
MarcDarko 2 years ago
If people are able "to rise out of the mud and achieve because they have the ability to do that" then the capricious "need" for abortion is rendered moot.
In no other situation in a civilized society is an individual allotted the the "right" to end the life - to kill - another person.
Only in abortion is that considered OK. And that's accomplished only by denying the proven humanity of the unborn child, much as slavery was allowed by denying the humanity of Dred Scott & people of his culture.
solly7 2 years ago
You allow that people can pull themselves out of their situations yet, you won't recognize that, by pulling themselves out of the mud, the "need" for abortion no longer exists.
There is no guarantee that anyone's life will be miserable. Any circumstances, including the ill-perceived need for aborting a child, can be changed when one seeks the positive alternatives that will improve their life AND that of their child.
solly7 2 years ago
Why bring a life into a world if it is certain to be miserable?
Hell is way deep down in the ground. You can see it when a premature crack addicted baby struggles to breath because radical nutjobs, like yourself sully proclaim what is and isn't right in this world.
Abortion will always exist. The day it doesn't, that is the day people stop fornicating.
MarcDarko 2 years ago
There is no certainty that an unborn child will be miserable if she/he is born. Humans have the capability of rising beyond their environment, if they so choose. I've done it, & I'm not the only one.
You imply that people are stuck in their situation, forever. That need not be the case.
You present nothing more than a convenient excuse to justify selfishness.
solly7 2 years ago
It keeps us human to value life and keep it sacred.
....but it has been and always will be a choice to abort a pregnancy.
MarcDarko 2 years ago
You just contradicted yourself. It doesn't keep you human to value SOME lives & keep them sacred. If you value life, you should value all human life, INCLUDING the unborn.
It is this schizophrenic attitude used to separate the born & unborn that rips away at our humanity. It is the reason that we now have little trouble with killing newborns, or the elderly & infirmed.
As long as you deny the unborn their right to life, you lessen your own humanity.
solly7 2 years ago
MURDER IS WRONG! I mean, it's OK as long as you're killing a grown man with a life's worth of experience who has made meaningful connections with other human beings and is making a misguided attempt to defend his country and/or he has dismal/no career prospects and was recruited by an American-installed despot or rebel faction. Bombs are OK, as long as they don't kill any fetuses (and I'm sure they never do)
...But killing a fetus that is gestating inside an American woman? ABOMINATION!
lotsapillarbiter 2 years ago
Your politics against the US is hardly a reason to mcondone the murder of unborn children &, in many cases, their mothers.
It is an honor to serve in this country. Many people have. To defend the freedoms we have sometimes take sacrifice, including our own lives. We who have served, & do serve now, understand that.
However, your selfishness not withstanding, those freedoms do not include a concocted freedom to kill one's own child.
solly7 2 years ago
You say killing is wrong, but what about protecting those who can't protect themselves isn't that just as wrong? Yes, I joined the army. I would do it again in a heart beat. My fiancee is too. So your anger is misguided. We protect those who can't protect themselves. Whether they be babies, grown adults, or the elderly. It's all the same to us. We even defend people like you. Think about that.
amelemon15 2 years ago 9
You've put down your thoughts very well. Thank you.
solly7 2 years ago
@amelemon15
Right on. My Dad was army. Thank you for what you guys do and go through. We're proud of you guys...at least most of us are.
CrAsDb 2 years ago
@CrAsDb I don't do it for the glory. Most people don't. I do it for my country. And for my family.
amelemon15 1 year ago
@amelemon15 which is why so many of us respect you. God bless.
CrAsDb 1 year ago
I have sat through an entire song by Nickelback. I have stomached an entire album by Insane Clown Posse.
This is still the worst song that I have ever heard. I am a pro-life person who doesn't judge abortion as murder, but rather simply frowns upon those who choose to carry it out, but this is song is a sack of absolute shit. It's not as simple as they're saying, end of story. Carrying around a child for nine months and pushing it through your vagina is hard.
Wow. I'm so mad.
Unakau 2 years ago
How does the circumstance of carrying the baby & delivering mean that adoption is wrong?
Adoption allows that child to be raised in a home where the parents can provide for him/her. The biological mother is quite brave & shows a HUGE amount of love for their child in allowing someone to adopt that child & raise them.
If you don't like the song (which sounds more like a matter of style), fine. However, that doesn't render the whole adoption concept moot.
solly7 2 years ago
Man, when did I ever say that adoption is wrong? Adoption is a fantastic method for allowing, for lack of a better word, unwanted children to still have kind and loving parents. I'm just saying that this whole issue isn't as easy as just allowing the child to be born after birth.
I think Graham Parker said it best. You can't be too strong, too right, too wrong.
Unakau 2 years ago
120th rating 5\5
MikHoward7 2 years ago
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This is a sick video. If mothers choose to carry their children to term, they need to keep them and raise them, and we need to help them do that. Adoption is not an option.
valljay 2 years ago
Adoption was the loving adoption was the loving option that the biological mothers of each of my sons chose.
In your way, either the mother lets her baby continue to live & be born, or the baby dies.
In the real world, adoption allows the child to continue their life & allows the mother to avoid carrying the guilt of having had their baby killed, with the possibility that they may 1 day be reunited.
Adoption = life. Abortion = death.
Clear choice.
solly7 2 years ago
well, we need something to control our overwhelming population. :) btw this song is sooo horrible lololol i wish these band would have been aborted
dudeinthafloppyhat 2 years ago
Our current population is in decline, at such a rate that it may soon get to the point where we can't recover. There has never been an over population problem.
Now, there are places where the concentration of people makes it seem as such. However, the actual population is, in no way, in a state of over population.
solly7 2 years ago
How could anyone kill a beautiful baby?! George Tiller was a monster for killing over 60,000 babies! Before feeling sorry for him think of all the babies that he killed.
AaronShaunBrennan 2 years ago
and before you think of that.. think of how many people christians killed in the name of god LOL.
dudeinthafloppyhat 2 years ago
When you hear that heartbeat for the first time you KNOW that a living being is there.
If you are worried about getting pregnant - DON'T have sex.....rise above animal status and show a little self control.
Great song and nice video - thanks
hmmkr1999 2 years ago
man,thats a sad question of murder.Babies are beautiful!!!!
spurned1969 2 years ago 3
Good to hear...wonderful message! Keep up the good work! God Bless you and your efforts to wake up America.......
exrea 2 years ago 2
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Wake up America?? LOL i say "Wake up CHristians" not everybody shares your views. and it is shitty to think that your view is "Right" view.. it is merely your opinion. You do what you want... and let others do as they want.
dudeinthafloppyhat 2 years ago
The view that pro-life Christians present is that of our Creator, the One who created you & me, and these children.
By your logic, we shouldn't jail, try & convict anyone who murders a born person. We should let them them do as they want. It's only our opinion that they are murderers.
solly7 2 years ago
In reviewing your many posts in this thread I can see you damn us for our "opinions" yet demand we adopt yours...(yeah that's a pun) Pray for guidance, clearly you have been misinformed! OBTW, Christians have already awaken to the lies of the left...
exrea 2 years ago
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ruin ur life 2 not offened some madeup character in an archaic fairytale plz kthx
oblivion3134 2 years ago
Ensoulment at conception! Woo! True ensoulment comes from when the pastor puts his wackadoo in your jimmy ha ha.
Demevon 2 years ago
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So you took this reply down because of the word "hell"?You have got to be kidding...right?my reply..And your musical favorites.Clueless Amerikkkan.Dylan may sometimes only use 3 chords but it's his improvisation at a song when he plays live and his time signatures(he plays w/ time in a rock/folk setting as Thelonious Monk played w/ time in jazz).Hell I don't need to give you a musical education unless you would like to pay for it like the rest of my students...
Noiseyigor 2 years ago
Yes. Using that word in the context you did is exactly what I meant.
Hendrix was asked about the best guitarist. He stated that it was Phil Keaggy.
I have no personal preference for Dylan. And that is OK.
As for Monk, I happen to enjoy him. However, I also happen to like the rest of the music that I listed, with no apologies to you, or anyone else.
Of course, I'd also like to know what that has to do with this video & issue. Are you that desperate to find something to fuss about?
solly7 2 years ago
Ahhhh, so you're here to self-aggrandize the fact that YOU are a teacher...LOL!!
chardonnay1 2 years ago
I am sure if you had the opportunity to ask Jimi Hendrix about Bob Dylan he could have told you a thing or two...and if he was alive he certainly would NOT have covered this trainwreck of a song! God Bless you!
Noiseyigor 2 years ago
I love how If this guy does not like the reply...even though I've used no "under the BIG TENT" curse words he or she just deletes it...such a riot! God Bless MOM and APPLE PIE! See ya in CHURCH!
Noiseyigor 2 years ago
The ONLY comments I've deleted have been for offensive and vulgar language. Other than that, I've allowed you & those like you to make all the ignorant remarks you so desire.
solly7 2 years ago
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pimproductions 2 years ago
dontcha love how conservatives see everything in black and white..... i bet 90% of "pro-life"rs don't give two shits about kids waiting to be adopted, much less adopt them themselves...
maxxxmann 3 years ago
As usual, you're speaking from a position of ignorance. Or do you think I should give back my 3 adopted sons? Or maybe all the other pro-lifers should give back all their adopted children, just so your statement can be accurate.
solly7 2 years ago
that is one UGLY foetus.
jmrobinson5 3 years ago
Overall, very grateful for TRB! Especially now...
vajdasag 3 years ago 4
Overcrowding you are as stupid as the person that is trying to brainwash that in your head. People die everyday and there is room for everyone to have the chance at life ...
steelersdiva1 3 years ago
Option One..If you are not ready for a baby,
"""KEEP YOUR LEGS SHUT"""... Really quite simple!
Option Two.. Babies are a Gift, There are too many loving people in this world trying to have a baby that would love the Chance at this Gift!
steelersdiva1 3 years ago
Yes, Let's make overcrowding of our cities worse. A women has the right to do whatever she wants to with her unborn child. It doesn't have rights till after its born. What we should do is if a women has an abortion more then once sterilize her so she cant procreate anymore.
Silentjuggalo 3 years ago
1. Overcrowding is a myth. Just thought you might want to know that.
2. According to the SCOTUS decisions of 1973, they did take the right to continued life away from the unborn child. Of course, SCOTUS also once denied rights to blacks, saying that they were no more than 3/5th human. The Democrats cheered that decision, too. They even said that each state should be pro-choice about slavery.
Yep. You're in real good company, there.
solly7 3 years ago
THANK YOU!!!
OneLucky13 3 years ago
Silentjuggalo, The baby has the same rights as you and I from the moment of conception. A mother does not have the right to kill her unborn child any more than I have the right to kill you. Life is a God given right, given to every person born or unborn. young or old.
farmmo4ever 3 years ago 4
Have you ever noticed everyone that is pro-choice was born?
How come its illegal to walk up and kill someone yet abortion(aka:baby killing) is legal?
Abortion is like the three fifths compromise,they thought slaves weren't completely human and now they think unborn's aren't completely human either.
Pro-choice makes me sick.
Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice(more like Pro-DEATH!)
OneLucky13 3 years ago 3
I mean seriourly u could be killing the next president of the USA have the respect to what u created to give it a chance to live even if ur going to give he/she away at birth
Melissaann2658 3 years ago
LOVE THE SONG.listen to it MIN of 10 times a day
amelemon15 3 years ago 3
From conception on, no matter how - it's a human baby! :-) Thanks for the vid.
vajdasag 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Noiseyigor you're a raging faggot shut the fuck up and grow a fuckin heart you arrogant pud whacker
BiffDurden 3 years ago
"does anyone remember babies and children dying from coat hangers?" So who's the blackhearted cold blooded hate monger now? Me because I didn't vote for the Black Nominee since I don't believe in Marxism? Or the cold blooded baby killer? STFU Noiseyigor. YOUR'RE the hate monger.
VinceWylde 3 years ago 2
Yes, it's so much nicer to kill the babies with medically sterile instruments!! Wow, thanks for sharing and showing me the light. :)
LifeDontWasteIt 3 years ago
"ALL BABIES WANT TO LIVE"
shocktreatmenthead 3 years ago 3
Sure,lets go backwards and leave it up to these southern states...does anyone remember babies and children dying from coat hangers? Oh,and thes "RIGHT BROTHERS"...I wonder what Bob Dylan thinks of these talentless bafoons...jeezus why do so many AmeriKKKans have such horrible taste in music? These guys need to go back doing construction work.
Noiseyigor 3 years ago
You do realize that most of the stories about using coat hangers are made up, don't you?
solly7 3 years ago
You can't possibly believe that abortions didn't exist before abortion clinics. Abortion is part of age-old semantics in the human psyche. The moral thing however, is to identify that women are forcing themselves to undergo back-alley surgeries and give them a safe alternative and a refined medical process, so that they don't mutilate their own uterus'. Or at least that's what someone with a normal moral compass and not a totally fucked christian moral compass might agree with.
BishopMcBeatnic 3 years ago
I never said abortion didn't exist before Roe. Abortion is in the Bible, and it was evil then, as well. Your so-called "safe alternative" isn't safe for the mother's child, or the mother.
It is never moral to agree to any scenario that allows for an innocent person to die. That is a foolish premise on your part.
I would like all of you to clean up the language a little. Disagreement doesn't call for gutter language. Only the lack of a credible argument brings out the trashy talk.
solly7 3 years ago
Modern day abortions never mutalate a womans uterus?
731htucky 3 years ago
Ok, lets take an analogy. Rape is illegal- but it happens right? And in these "back alley rapes" women are often severly injured and somtimes killed because the rapist doesn't want to be ID'ed. There is a simple solution to this- legalize rape! And how about build "Rape centers" the men can take the women to( no resistance alowed, of course) so the rape can take pkace in a "safe alternative", inside and safe. Then women wouldn't be as hurt, its "safe and legal"
Thats your logic. Message me.
RenokerQ 2 years ago 2
Really? Most people would not undergo a life-threatening procedure to abort a child. They'd suck it up and live with their mistakes, which is the way it should be.
And did you just imply that Bob Dylan has talent? Really? All he plays is 3 chord progressions, and sings in a horrible voice. You can teach a monkey to do that. Bob Dylan got lucky. Of course, he did write the framework that gave us excellent music in the form of Hendrix's "All Along the Watchtower" and GNR "Knockin on Heavens Door"
aedmiston1 3 years ago
well i think if your a stupid whore and cant keep your legs closed thats your problem. dont kill the baby dumbass. now if your raped, then why make two bad things come out of one situation?? its called adoption
PancakesS9WAFFLES3 3 years ago
If you abort your children, then who's gonna be left to drop bombs on?
roflcopter2006 3 years ago
Absolutely love this song! Please keep it up!
vajdasag 3 years ago
Let them live....
CrAsDb 3 years ago 4
In Germany there aren't any bands who make conservative punk. no bands are singing about the conservative christian party. all the punks bands are singing about socialism and anarchy. that's fuckin' borin'.
BolleNDH 3 years ago 2
It is also easy. Conservatism requires thought.
FLHTP07 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Babies can't write crappy songs from inside the womb, but I bet if they did the abortion rate would quadruple.
BrettEatsTacos 3 years ago
Just like a common liberal, your comment is mean and thoughtless. Thank you for not surprising me.
rawchicken01 3 years ago
I think I made a pretty valid point, and for the record I am not in any way, shape or form a liberal. The only thing I am against more than abortion is shitty music. So please, let me thank you back for representing the idiot conservative demographic that's going to lose us the current election. Bitching about liberals incessantly will be our demise, I guarantee it.
BrettEatsTacos 3 years ago
this song is one of the greatest songs ive heard
because both me and my brother were adopted and our birth mothers decided to LET US LIVE
and i thank god for that everyday because i know that if i wasnt around alot of ppl who are in my life would be totally lost
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK TRB
sparrowsgurl100403 3 years ago 5
Who would want to bring a child into a world where bands like this one exist?
Joe402 3 years ago
Well done sir, that comment was pure win.
warsofgears2008 3 years ago
because they did nothing wrong
and they shouldnt have to pay for there mothers mistake
and because its a great place and everyone should have the chance to experience it.
sparrowsgurl100403 3 years ago 6
No, no, the comment was about the rather thorough lack of musical merit that this band appears to display. It was a joke. :)
turbogeek0577 3 years ago
Erm... that was in response to comment five posts down from this, inclusive.
turbogeek0577 3 years ago
I am not sure if you are christian or not but if you believe that the baby should not have to pay for the mother's mistake then why are we paying for Adam and Eve's mistake? (supposedly)and what about rape victims? No one gets raped by 'mistake'. No one except the Mother should be allowed to dictate what happens to her body especially if it concerns religious belief. I am not exactly for abortion but I am not against it either. Belief should not over ride reality and common sense.
SheylaDala 3 years ago
Its only the mothers body for 9 months. Its the unborn childs LIFETIME! 70, 80, 90 years.
Pregnencies from rapes are extremely rare and the argument is a red herring.
Women have choice. Spread the knees or keep them together.
FLHTP07 3 years ago
Do you know the statistics from rape? I don't think that women who have been raped would consider themselves as a 'red herring'
Yes women do have choice. They have the ultimate choice when it concerns their body. It is not as simple as keeping your legs closed or not and by the way raped victims didn't even have that choice and just because it is rare does not make the issue/problem go away or easier to solve! the issue of abortion is unique to every situation there is no blanket answer.
SheylaDala 3 years ago
I did not say rape was a red herring. Using rape as an argument for abortion on demand is a red herring. Rape is an entirely different issue.
Otherwise, yes women have control over their bodies. What goes in as well as what goes out.
Exercise some self control and freedom of choice. Take full responsibility for your body and abortion will never be an option.
FLHTP07 3 years ago
I do agree with you that we should take full responsibility for our actions and we should do every thing we can to prevent having to make such a terrible choice.
I also agree that freedom is something we should not abuse but I am sure that you will agree with me when I say life is not predictable and horrible things do happen no matter how much precaution we take. I don't think a mother would ever take the decision to abort lightly.
But it should be her choice and she will have to live with it.
SheylaDala 3 years ago
The child is not part of the womens body.
If A=B and B=C, then A=C. If a brick is part of a wall, and the wall is part of a house- then the brick is part of the house. Common sence, right? So, if the baby is part of the mother, and the feet are part of the baby- then the feet are part of the mother. If the baby was part of the mother, the mother would have 2 brains, 4 eyes, 4 feet, 2 noses, 4 arms, and if the baby was male- what would the mothers gender be?
RenokerQ 2 years ago
I could go around and leave asinine comments on Rage Against the Machine videos. But unlike some, I actually have respect both for other people's political views and their music tastes. Now GTFO asshole.
aedmiston1 3 years ago
i like how the woman in the video is a typical stereotype blonde. if she was black or any other minority, conservatives would have no problem with her having an abortion.
3SirCrimson3 3 years ago
I'm a Christian conservative. I have 3 adopted children, all from what would be considered minority cultures.
2/3 of the mothers who have abortions are minorities. We fight as strongly for them as for all the other mothers.
Of course, I realise you're not interested in anything as unimportant as truth. That would get in the way of your blind prejudice. I just wanted to make sure that you have to face it, if only this one time.
solly7 3 years ago
Wow. The internet reveals so much about its users.
gamestopnate 3 years ago 2
On the Internet, no one knows I'm a dog.
3SirCrimson3 3 years ago
i understand where you are coming from and respect it. this is a really complicated debate, but it's necessary. there's a misconception among a lot of pro-lifers that being pro-choice is "pro-abortion," and it's not. we want to end abortion too, but also protect the mother in the process. abstinence is an option, but not the most realistic approach because the sex drive is one of our strongest drives. i believe that education is a lot more effective than a constitutional amendment.
hornraiser 3 years ago 2
I will send you an email showing you, a)we are winning in Iraq militarily and in the hearts of the people, b)terrorism is on the run, c)how the rich pay most of our taxes and thusly pay for the war, d)Clinton is more likely a cause of the war than a saint of it. Its apparent to me that we need a constitutional amendment to stop this murdurous practice. Education doesnt decrease the frequency of murder and I dont think it would do it for abortion either.
Jones52003 3 years ago
disclaimer: i am pro choice, but i believe abortion should be the absolute last resort. it's a really horrible, horrible decision for anyone to make.
education is key, my friends. making abortion illegal will not put an end to or even reduce the "murder" you are so outraged about. the stats are out there - google it instead of listening to the right brothers.
hornraiser 3 years ago
even more confounding is that many people claim they don't believe in situational ethics (moral relativity). the reality is that they actually DO because they believe abortion is murder, but killing is admissable at the hands of a soldier.
remember your 10 commandments folks - thou shalt not kill. maybe i missed the translation, but i don't remember any addendum to the bible stating that killing is forgiven in the act of war.
me? i believe in situational ethics because i'm sane.
hornraiser 3 years ago
Now for your "shall not kill" business. Most Bible scholars are now in agreement that its more accurate to translate the Hebrew as "shall not murder", this translation is agreed upon by two messianic Rabbis who know Hebrew who live in my area(Rabbi Brent Fiedler of Beth Shalom and Rabbi Joseph Bell of Lion of Judah).
Jones52003 3 years ago
"most bible scholars"? are you serious? how do you explain the 50 gazillion different denominations in the christian church alone? i'll explain it - because the term "organized religion" is an oxy-moron. no two human beings believe exactly the same thing.
i would define "murder" as taking the life of someone w/o their consent and not in an act of self-defense.
"killing" innocent civilians is murder, so is abortion, etc.
whether you realize it or not, you're merely making my point.
hornraiser 3 years ago
I'm not going to bother to squabble with you about the difference between a bible scholar(a person who studies the text and translation of the bible) and a religious scholar(a person who studies the beliefs of a certain sect of a religion), because i think it will get me nowhere. I believe that public execution also doesn't qualify for murder, at least for me. So are you making a point for or against abortion, if your saying its murder then it sounds like an argument against abortion.
Jones52003 3 years ago
"So are you making a point for or against abortion, if your saying its murder then it sounds like an argument against abortion."
to everything there is a season.
sometimes, "murder" is the right thing, sometimes it's not. i think this much is obvious, and you've pointed it out by agreeing that, in certain situations, it would be "acceptable," (if not merciful) and you are 100% correct.
hornraiser 3 years ago
I would also suggest that you read Deuteronomy 20, Joel 3:10, Ecc 3:8, not to mention the wars that God Himself commanded to happen.
I agree that in a few emergency situations abortion might be acceptable, but to say that making it illegal will not reduce its frequency is maddening. I guess you would also suggest laws against marijuana doesn't decrees its frequency, and who needs regular murder laws anyway, murder still happens right?
Jones52003 3 years ago
okay, so we agree that, in certain situations, abortion is "acceptable" (worse case scenario: e.g, a women is raped by her AIDS-infected father and impregnated).
whether you realize it or not, that makes you pro-choice (not pro-abortion - i don't know anyone who is actually "pro-abortion").
hornraiser 3 years ago