Ring of the Nibelungs "Götterdämmerung"

[bb1111116]

The Ring in Tolkien's mythology 1st appears in "The Hobbit".

That Ring makes the wearer invisible and can lead to corruption. Where did this idea come from? Plato. In book 2 of the Republic, "The Ring of Gyges", there is a ring that allows its owner to become invisible.

Try wikipedia-Ring of Gyges

Tolkien used this idea but the German myths could also be based on it. The Nibelungenlied, Wagner and Tolkien were extending a mythical tradition. Tolkien used many myths. Nothing wrong with that.

[Chaloupe89]

My god its so ridiculous. A shame to the Wagner memory.

[vladimirMxD]

what is name of song at the beggining of film??

[Dyrri94]

@cherrysweetable

That's your opnion. I personally hated Lord of the Rings.

[Purplecatsoup30]

To change the topic, if I may: I think Adolf Hitler would have got a boner from watching this...hot aryan chicks that kill......

[torstvillinger]

Sir(s): If I may, at this Date and Time, state here and here tell how it is so Very Good to Seek After that Sacred Ring, whether It is a Bond which is One Physical Only or from that One Spiritual Only. --Attributed, JAMES HOWARD DAY (JR.), "J. D.," SATX 78202 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (U. S. A.) "No Shame Intended"

[DStolz8]

Wie heist denn das Lied am Ende?

What´s the Name from the song at the end?

[KillerGirlLucy]

@DStolz8 Riding on the Rocks, it's beautiful isn't it?

[longhorn44jc]

shingen -- look her up on her image site --Kristanna Loken

[asderso]

which movie is this scene from, please ?

[longhorn44jc]

what a statement for strong women -- Hagen, run for your life!! this women is about to kill you!! dumbass --

[CssBc2010]

Epic!

Norse mythology pure. Belongs to the group of Conan the Barbarian and Excalibur.

Brunhilde and Valeria, the best Valkyries.

Wagner is the master!

[sarahx87]

used to love ancient stories. know where to get high qualtiy vids??

[austrocedrussp]

Acá en Chile, no nos enteramos de estas producciones, ya que lamentablemente están instaladas las cadenas de cine norteamericanas y solo nos llega la mierda que se produce en USA.

[sanguinarioSS]

epico

supremo

[NormanLowell]

Wagner! The Great Wagner!

Him who delved, dug deep into the primordial subconcious Europid Soul!

A beckoning: a pre X'tian, pagan purity, purifying, potentiating our progenitors.

Imperium Europa:

The Book that changed the world.

Amazon Books

2012: Anno Zero!

[pikuotta]

Me recuerda a Excalibur (Boorman 1981) por la BSO

[IberianMilitia]

@pikuotta es la del inicio de la pelicla de excalibur

[pikuotta]

La del inicio, la del final, bueno la que utilizan casi en toda la pelicula jaja!! "la marcha funebre de sigfrido" de richard wagner, saludos ;)

[longhorn44jc]

this is a great scene with Wagner's music -- and there is a lesson here - never piss off a Viking queen carrying a sword who has been scorned --

[NormanLowell]

The Old Gods will never die.

They are deep within us.

Within the abyss of our subconcious.

The Great Wager.

Powerful, profound, penetrating.

Stirring the Race Soul.

Imperium Europa:

The Book that changed the world.

Amazon Books

[Farfalla7Malva]

WELL DONE, BRAVO!!! So moving & beautiful, with the perfect score-music to it too...Ciao ^_^

[RogueSlayer]

*snickers* Does it really MATTER which is better? It's all a matter of preference. The ending song is Riding on the Rocks by Katie Knight Adams and it does a wonderful summerization of the romantic subplot as well as the turmoils of the should have been lovers.

Also just because Tolkien was enchanted by the Germanic culture doesn't mean LotR is a retelling

Just like there are many retellings of King Arthur's court there are retellings of the Ring cycle. No one is better they're just different.

[peacecanhappen27]

@RogueSlayer, exactly, Tolkien was inspired by The Ring of the Nibelungs, but his mythology borrowed from other things too. It is not a bastardization, nor is it a retelling, he borrowed elements from this story and from others.

[picardkid]

@peacecanhappen27 I think Tolkien once compared his work with Wagner's. He said the only similarities are that there is a Ring, and it is round. The Lord of the Rings was one of the last parts of his Legendarium to be thought out. He started with the Hobbit and the Silmarillion and all that, then decided to flesh out the Hobbit, and made the trilogy we all know and love.

[Kaibaiii]

what is the name of the song that starts at 8:18

[RogueSlayer]

Riding on the Rocks by Katie Knight Adams

[TheDJSTALKER]

anyone knows whats the name of the last song?

And very nice video btw

[ErdbeerMintGirl]

Ha ha Robert Pattinson look so ugly at this!!!

[FellowTraveller]

hmmmm from viewing this I come to a single conclusion. do NOT piss off any grey eyed, natural blond women from Iceland, who are named Brunhilde. not for nothing, but you may end up Losing your head! ha ha ha good film clip, nice music editing. 5/5 stern naturlich. FT

[mrboombasticx]

Wow. The music does work in some places.

[sirmercutio99]

Yikes thats the worst ending of the ring I have ever seen. First Hagen was drowned by the Rhinemaidens. Second they Used Siegfried's Funeral March but not the the Immolation scene. Third wheres the distruction of Valhalla!

[Sieglinde84]

@sirmercutio99 All of this. Plus Hagen doesn't look creepy enough. :D Try Halfvarson or Salminen for a real Hagen.

[nxn8690]

How come Brünnhilde is a Hero & the Best Fighter, here? I hate ppl changing stories around these days. What's wrong with the Original "Nibelungenlid"?

[Aquarianbrass]

Brunhilde was a hero in the original. She "saves" the day by initiatiing Ragnorak

[nxn8690]

LOL, " Ragnarök", there is only one version of "Nibelungenlid" has any reference to " Ragnarök" which is "Götterdämmerung" in "Der Ring des Nibelungen" by Wagner. This Opera is very famous, so it's very easy to find out the story line by Google it or something. Do some readings, OK.

[Aquarianbrass]

If I'm not mistaken, the title of this video is "Gotterdammerung", so the original would be Wagner's play, not the ancient Norse myth which Wagner only partially borrowed from. His opera is not supposed to be a retelling of the "Nibelungenlid" so if you have a problem with Brunnhilde being the hero take it up with Wagner who dead almost a hundred years ago. Hardly "these days".

[nxn8690]

LOL. Read "Götterdämmerung".

[nxn8690]

Tell me, how does Hagen die, according to Wagner in Götterdämmerung? LOL.

[Azurean88]

He is drowned by the Rhinemaidens after plunging into the overflowing Rhine waters to attempt to sieze the ring.

[nxn8690]

Very Well, Indeed. However, it's an unexpected Intervention. I was waiting for the Answer from "Aquarianbrass", since she was the one who rose an Argument. No Matter, for your Kindness, ppl now know some about the Original "Götterdämmerung" by Wagner. My Gratitude, Sir. Best Regards.

[Wittmann73]

terrible this english music at the end ... nothing against english, but it does not fit at all into the context

[ErdbeerMintGirl]

Robert pattison!!! haha

[ehnin]

I like this version very much

[pagajahlita]

I love this movie alot T.T tragic love so sad ;(

[ehnin]

I like the character of Kriemhild very much!!!

This movie i fantastic

[theGirlofMidnightSun]

i dont like Kriemhild but Alicia Witts is a good actress. I loved Brunnhild !

[ehnin]

She's a wonderful actress!!!!

I like the scene when she says: "Murderer"

[hlebarka2]

This movie sux...

it has nothing to do with the original legend ....

[0Lomelind0]

guys who sing the song that close the movie???

[Skandalf]

Katie Knight-Adams - Riding on the rocks

[Russian220088]

This movie is a copy of the lord of the rings or the lor of the rings copied this!

[Azurean88]

Heh "Lord of the Rings" was invented circa the 20th century by JRR Tolkien.. LOTR was a revisionist bastardization of the original upper high Germanic "Nibelungenlied" circa 1st Century A.D. based upon Germanic legends rooting from around 400 A.D. This movie is based upon the "Nibelungenlied" which is the original middle earth legend that 95% OF people are not aware of. Naturally since Peter Jacksons' adaptation of Tolkiens' Trilogy rocketted THAT particular modern version to the forefront.

[Azurean88]

In addition i forgot to mention, German composed Richard Wagner used the pure form of the legends to create the Operatic "Ring Cycle" which is the longest opera in the world, 14 hours & 4 parts.. this Opera was performed way before Tolkeins birth in fact..

[blauegitarre]

gute Geschichte

[Stonegolem42]

Both rings are round, and it is there that the similarities end. Tolkien said that.

And it's somewhat true. He was vaguely inspired by the original myth, but his story is completely different. It's not a modern version, and it's not a retelling, it's a completely different story. Having similar elements doesn't make it an adaptation, or else EVERYTHING would just be an adaptation of something older.

[KronprinzAdam]

For sure, Tolkien had contact with elements of celtic, scandinavian and germanic mythology, as well with irish ghost tales. Elves are of germanic origin, and trolls, scandinavian. The ancient germanic world, in his legends, describes a world of high kings, hidden treasures, mining dwarves, magic swords and dragons, they also believed that in winter, spirits roamed the Earth. An ancient old man with white beard roams the Earth, Odin, Gandalf, or ...St. Niklaus?

[KronprinzAdam]

Today, in Austria and South Germany, people had a festival in they use costumes of orc-like creatures (called Krampus and Perchten) to celebrate winter feasts. It is this world of legends which gaves birth to Siegfried legends, but also Grimm's tales, Wagner tales, sagas from Iceland and...Tolkien's Middle Earth.

[Stonegolem42]

I was replying to a comment that called The Lord of the rings a re-telling of Wagner's ring cycle; I really like Tolkien, and Germanic myths and folktales as well, so I felt obligated to defend him.

And if I remember correctly, The Lord of the Rings is actually a sort of alternative history of England, combining pre-Roman Celtic mysticism with elements of traditional Anglo-Saxon and Viking heroic legends. Middle Earth and England are even kinda the same shape.

[KronprinzAdam]

I do not consider Tolkien's monumental work as a remake of Wagner's operas. I just realice that, both share a common source: norse and germanic myths.

I consider Middle Earth inspired directly by norse Migard, the world of man. Hobbits are inspired by rural England. But Middle Earth is a world with dragons, dwarves, elves, high kings, hidden treasures, magic swords and troll-like creatures. It is not different to the mythology and superstitions of the ancient germanic tribes!!

[Stonegolem42]

I never said the world was different . .  .

[KronprinzAdam]

I think we are saying basically similar things with different words. I assume Tolkien's World like an expanded universe inspired in germanic, celtic and scandinavian myths and superstitions. .Both Wagner and Tolkien are original creations, but I consider them independant from each other. But both are for sure, inspired in ancient sagas, like the song of the Nibelungs. The difference is that Wagner did a musical re-telling of Siegmund and Siegfried, Tolkien created a new universe and characters

[KronprinzAdam]

There's even a theory which states that dwarves are inspired by the ancient germanic mines, from which "treasures" where extracted. The hats they used were similar to Snow White's dwarves, and short people (and maybe some children) were appropriate for mine job.

[Stonegolem42]

Also: Tolkien describied Gandalf as an "Odinic wanderer" and Gandalf's character was inspired by a picture of Odin on a Swiss postcard, but that doesn't make them one in the same. They're very similar, but Odin is Odin and Gandalf is Gandalf.

[KronprinzAdam]

The appearance that was given to Odin in the 19th century is not different from Gandalf. I think Tolkien was inspired by Odin and wizard Merlin to create Gandalf.

It is believed that Odin also inspired, long time ago, Santa Claus and christmas trees, because the tree was considered sacred in ancient germany.

[Stonegolem42]

Again, they're very similar, but Odin is Odin and Gandalf is Gandalf.

Let me see if I can come up with an exampe . . . You wouldn't say that Cthulhu and Godzilla are the same thing just because the filmmaker who came up with Godzilla was inspired by H. P. Lovecraft's fiction, would you?

[vishmonster]

@Azurean88

"bastardization" is a bit harsh all artists are inspired by previous artists work, the traditional approach in this form of myth is to constantly rewrite and re work earlier for versions for modern relevance

[pagajahlita]

The Nordic legend that inspired J.R.R. Tolkien to write the Lord of the Ring trilogy fact on IMDb ; )

[HubertTheCareless]

The twigligt of the gods already happened. Gods withdraw slowly from the lives of humans, so humans can learn freedom , independence, the sense of individuality. Today's human consciousness was the result. Sadly, the great wolf of materialism eats the Sun of spiritual light, and the gods do battle, now ! You who still have eyes to see that, you must make the choice: whose side do you take ?

The lure of the damned gold, or the path of the moral Sun ?

[HubertTheCareless]

This movei is actually better than it's critics think. It might not fit the legends word by word, but many elements still keep their depth. An uncomprehended legend seemingly cannot be ruined that easily.

[Shingen84]

brunnhilde is hot yo

[Freenure]

Oh, man, thank god Robert Pattinson Fangirls have still not discovered this masterpiece and turned it into a new LOTR FanFaggotry

[baumbart1776]

exactly right. I also would say that this was one of his best movies

[chisacat]

I would not want to have that chick pissed at me , she is one badass lady

[daveydaveybaby]

Amazing job working in siegfried's funeral march. Fantastic film, love it, and love Wagner too.

[mrnasdfgh]

the best film i ve ever seen! it is really beautiful!

[Lisa1990tokiohotel]

The music sounds kind of ironic at the moment Brunhild slices of Hagen's head.

[Johnabraytis]

The use of the love potion to make Siegfried fall in love with Gutrune was ridiculous.

[Lisa1990tokiohotel]

Well mostly people aren't that reasonable, writing myths and all. You do know this movie was based on an ancient german myth? It was this way in that ancient story as well...So if the director would have left it out, it wouldn't have worked out at all!

[wolfman19892]

so true you can't just change myths cause some modern people judge them the way they judge a modern story

[Johnabraytis]

Actually, I guess my point is that Wagner's Ring Cycle is FUN. You never hear that word from the alleged "Wagner experts," like that dryed-up old coot, Fr. Owen Lee. Wagner is fun! The Ring Cycle is the best B-movie ever. That's a compliment!

[baumbart1776]

actually, if you have read the original legend, you schould have noticed that Siegfried an brunhild never were in love together.

When they met the first time, Siegfried was already married.

[kocsogarc]

Wagner. Beautiful.

[ninafleur87]

there was a video on youtube, that queen brunhild appeared, and with the music of evanescence - imaginary! it disappeared.. if someone could help me to find this video! i love it! hug*

[linni321]

whats the name of the song at the end?

[Coolcia]

Riding on the rocks by Katie Knight

[Serazy]

Katie Knight Adams - Riding On The Rocks

[xxxavier63]

great job, thanks for uploading

Xavier

[frazer3461]

great combination of the clip with the music! Really great job!