Ithaca Grease Gun Swedish K, Sten Sub Guns

[Ramonezs]

haha im swedish

[bolle2012]

This swedish gun is only used by bank-robbers!

[BjornH65]

I used the m/45 (Swedish K) when in the Swedish Army in 1986-87. I served in a motorized rifle company, where the gun was issued to officers, staff and supply personnel, despatch riders and medics. We could field strip in 20 seconds (30 seconds blindfolded), and it was easy to clean. The riflemen were envious of us, because their AK4:s (Swedish version of the H&K G3) were quite a chore to clean.

[SailFreex]

@BjornH65 Last time I saw a Swedish K was at the Special Forces C camp outside Kontum, Central Highlands, Vietnam, during the Tet Offensive January 1968.

They thought it had its uses.

[1339LARS]

Back in the day, I won the "automatic gun shooting badge" in silver and gold at a hundred meters with that piece! Nice and smooth.

[Gunrunnersusa]

@1339LARS

smooth as silk....she is an oldie but goodie...JP

[Gunrunnersusa]

@1339LARS

smooth as silk....she is an oldie but goodie...JP

[Mirdamor]

the sound of a swedish K firing is like music

[Gunrunnersusa]

@Mirdamor

Yes it is....good and slow steady beat...smooth as silk.. JP

[geasslver]

this is why it makes me sad to live in califorina the gun laws are as pointless as cencored porn

[Gunrunnersusa]

@geasslver

Yea...I wouldn't live out there if they GAVE me a house...too commie for my blood.

Vote the anti's out...but really it's already too late..JP in FREE 10-E-C

[switchbladec]

grease gun looks like a cool but sloppy gun to shoot

[1339LARS]

@switchbladec Naah, not that bad!

[chrisdog156]

he faild on the 2nd gun lol!

[jppelp1]

what fun !!!!!!!!

[NightmareGbg]

Swedish K oh how i miss mine.

But i got to ask,why is everybody insisting on holding the magazine on the sten when you fire it? It causes it to jam and it makes the M.O.A. even worse and it wasnt good to begin with.

[Cutlerylover7]

whats up with that badge on your belt i thought you worked for fed ex

[brianl890]

Of these guns I would take the Swedish K any day. Both the Sten and M3 "Grease gun" suffered from faulty magazines. The Swedish K is somewhat of a more robust and lasting firearm. All are good for their intended purpose. That is throwing a lot of lead at short to medium (with a prayer) distances. The slower cyclic rate makes all of these easier to control Than perhaps an Ingram in 9x19. I would love to see an example of a Finnish ..Suomi.. SMG. That is a REAL collector. Workmanship!

[RipRopRippityDoo]

Interesting video but the Sten should be held ahead of the ejection port, not by the mag or magwell. I know that's a MKIII, and the magwell is welded in place as a result, but it still should be supported correctly and a mag grip won't do it.

[assym2006]

both my grandads were conscripted in WWII and both loved the sten gun. Not because it was the best gun in the world but because it was what they had and it keeped them alive. One later became his squads Bren gunner and really loved that gun to the point that he named his one Grace after his wife.

[PajamaShark9]

I like the way you say Sten.

[reaperflynn3]

Don't drop your Sten you should know what happens when you do that :-P

[triofact34]

Haha funny you should say that. The canadians (like myself) used to load those guns and throw them into a room full of nazis and all you would hear is ahhhhhh.

[PyourRogue]

How much did ya give for your Sten?

[SurvivalWithBushcraf]

I never see any one with the 50 round clip for a sten. I think it came from a lanchester. Those rock.

[DESERTHAWKIN]

what is that carl gustav going for?id like to pick one up.

[Gunrunnersusa]

Just saw one listed on the boards in Nashville with a bunch of extras for 8.5k. It didn't last 2 days. If I had the coin it would be coming to Blountville.

JP

[Claesson39]

@DESERTHAWKIN can you really buy a granatlaucher in the US?

[happymerc]

lol these guns purr like kittens. awsome.

[xsuckmyballsx]

Nice Video :D Well done ...

[degpropp]

I served as a radio-operator in the swedish artillery in 87-88 and was issued the swedisk K, known to us simply as model-45. It worked brilliantly in -30 C as well as +30 C. Allthough 9 mm submachinguns are obsolete as military weapons, the swedish K truly was a soldiers weapon. The modern submachineguns used by police forces are more sofisticated. The police don 't need weapons that can spend hours submerged in snow or mud before firing.

[happymerc]

i agree with the part about hours in mud. People always saying ak 47's are better than m-16 etc because of reliability. Well shit clean your dam gun before you go into combat and your fine.

[aieoneoneeight]

except for forces like the navy SEALs then their guns need to work after being submerged in water

[happymerc]

i would say most guns work after being the water. the biggest problem i see would be water getting to the shells. just shake most of the water out of the barrel and you are fine. i could show a video of this, however, i care for my rifles too much to do that just to prove a point. plus many seals just put a condom on the barrel to serve as a cork.

HappyMerc

[Paciat]

I guess cleaning a rifle before combat is easy for the mobile US army. The problem starts when you have to walk for few days and suddenly fight.

[happymerc]

yes it is. where you from? iraq?

[Paciat]

Poland. But our army has no big transport planes, little war planes and helicopters. In the 90s our army was still traweling over long distances by rail. So we use AK-47.

[happymerc]

and you did make an excellent point on how mobile the u.s. army is, which is why we can afford to have a higher maintanance gun than the ak. as for when there are wars over energy i.e. fuel....that could easily change.

[lindmark1234]

what is your favorite gun of stengun,swedich k and Grease Gun?

[Gunrunnersusa]

Swedish K ...hands down..JP in 10-E-C

[Revoltec84]

The Swedish gun is one of the best in the world.

On Swedish: Kpist M45. 9 mm

[hardluckking13]

the sten looks really akward to shoot.

[kyle41894]

i want your guns!!!! where do you guys get these damn things

[Ruzlier]

its not like they say the name of the store in the videeo or anything..

[exgongive]

i wouldn't mind owning the first two! fine weapons you got there!

[LeighAndrew]

swedish k? sounds like sum sorta breakfast cereal

[lolisnottaken]

the "k" is a short for "kulsprutepistol" which translates into "bulet spurting pistol" or "submachine gun" :P

but you're right, it does sound weird xD

[Nebelung13]

Sten looks very unconfortable and akward to shoot.

[Dimwooo]

not to mention it looks HIDEOUS and crude

[Gunluver1]

m40 ftw

[l2a3sterling]

"steen" gun.

Treat them nice and they will treat you well.

[doqeman]

nice swedish k-pist!

[ImperialInquisition]

YOU NEVER HOLD A STEN GUN by its Magazine, that's asking for a fucking Jam

[MuhammadsStillASissy]

@ImperialInquisition fireng a STEN is askng for a jam. Worst mags ever made. Easy to cut clearence on bolt to clear Sterling mags which will then fit right in and then even with lightned bolt (as for supressed, subsonic ammo) it will fire reliabily (and very fast)

[l2a3sterling]

Sten guns rock.......and roll!

(steen gun in texas)

[Sweden80Here]

Swedish artillery guys and truckdrivers used the swedish k in the 70's

[KarILsson]

K-pist m/45 was used untill 2007 :)

[clarkcolt45]

but only in the navy and home guards..

[Sweden80Here]

My dad had the swedish k in the army in the 70's. They had swedish k squads for protecting artillery in close combat against infantry.

[haddock1941]

God the Swedish-K is sexy

[buttlord123]

you said it brother

[mindsmirror]

Yep, the Sten is awesome, mostly because it's SO simple. It's got a fucking angled metal rod with a vertical plate on the end of it and they call that a stock. Funky magazine positioning too, but hey, that shit works.

[sgtgritz117]

on top of that back in the day it only cost 100 dollars to make in todays money standard. That thing was cool and fucking cheap to make.

[graemerobinson]

unfortunately it was a terribly unreliable weapon until the fourth generation of it.

[beastatlay]

It wasn't the gun itself which was unreliable, it was the magazine (which was copied directly off the MP40).

[jamesshaw49]

the cheapist guns of ww2

[EESASTORM]

I did not think the K was in WWII.

[majorpluraeng]

Lol we have never gotten something so trashy as an UZI. Plus, we make our own war materiel and equipment, we havent replaced the m45 k-pist yet. It still rocks, believe me.

[1339LARS]

I used this gun during my militay service in 1972/73 and I got the gold medal for automatic guns shooting it, it is a truly accurate gun up to (certainly) and maybe beyond 100 meters, and it is known as m45b.

[midflea34]

i wanna get a sten

[airsoftking30]

the grease gun is cool But i want to know who used it or what its squad use was for

[BlindNeenja]

the americans in WWII

[del567]

The M3a1 was the replacement for the Thompson smg. It was cheaper to produce and fired the same ammo as the Thompson .45acp

[leatherwoman]

I was in the swedish army in 84

as a medic and had that type of

gun "Kulsprutepistol modell 45"

Machinegunpistol model 1945

is what it stands for and as

you said truckdrivers and medics

and others that realy dont

hawe much use of a weapon

carry them

[EwFreDDe]

may i ask why u have a sheriff badger on ur leg :P

Yeah i said badger :P

[Joel1995isbest]

sverige ??

[ronellis61]

The Sten is a MKIII? Looks like it was slipping in an out of select fire. I worked for a class III in Fla for a few years. I remember repairing a MKIII that was doing this. Thanx for the info on John Paul.

[Gunrunnersusa]

The K is a blast to shoot..no recoil due to the rate of fire and the weight. I acutually enjoy shooting it more than the MP-5. Come see me...JP in 10-E-C

[ronellis61]

Will do Gunrunner. You have to explain the JP in 10-E-C, I'm new to the forum.

[Gunrunnersusa]

I am working on building a shop finally after 21 years in the biz...

JP= John Paul 10-E-C = Tennessee

[ronellis61]

For a full evaluation of the mystique of the Swedish K, see Peter Kokalis's article in SAR magazine (Small Arms Review). Kokalis, a world expert on the evolution of small arms, describes the cult rise of this "mediocre subgun" based on rumors and tales. Regardless,I still think it's cool as hell though.

[ronellis61]

I love the "K" but its way overrated by guys telling others that it was "a special forces weapon". A few were carried in Nam by CIA spooks because it was a "deniable" weapon, not produced in America. It was always chambered in 9mm, not .45acp. The great mystique of the "K" was its rarity. It is no wonder that our Swedish brethren thought it funny to hear stories of its use by US special forces; where the Swedes gave it to truck drivers.

[suspect899]

it was funny to read that so true truck drivers medics etc uses the '' swedish k'' i wish i had one

[ArmaFennica]

ronellis61, That weapon is a simple copy of SuomiM31.

Larry Thorne used M45 in Vietnam partially because of his experience with Suomi SMG. My guess is that many of his men followed suit.

[samladdalmas]

The m/45 isnt a simple copy of the Soumi m31. If its a copy of anything its a copy of a sten, atleast eregarding the handling.

Larry Thorne probably used the m/45 because he had experienced the firepower of the m31 at short range, and the m/45 was the best option avilable 20 y later.

The m/45 is a good weapon up to 150 meters and its totally reliable. Not only the lorry drivers in the Swedish AF used to have it, but some special forces aswell. Due to its reliability.

[c9ari]

The U.S. used the Carl Gustaf in and around Veitnam...

[mircwar2]

Yep i know that and thats really funny the guy who used the carl gustav.. weapon in vietnam was often in special forces and the soldiers in sweden who used it was a medic or a Truck driver or something like that.

Take cear from sweden

[c9ari]

The ones the U.S. used were chambered for 45acp and not 9mm. They worked well in the close quarters combat of the jungle.

[suspect899]

I dident know that.. i have only heread it was the special forces

Its Mircwar2 btw

[Weapon01]

I love that Grease Gun.

Wish I had 18K to drop just to buy one.

[mircwar2]

private use i mean sorry my english is bad

[mircwar2]

the real name of this weapon is M45 Carl gustav my dad used it when he was in the army 1976-1977 in sweden i have allways want to shot whit a M45 but not manny people got them becose sweden dont sell any guns anymore for privates

Thx really much for uploading one of the first time i have herd it shoot

[stuart5499]

I used to be in the Irish Defence Forces and the M45 was standard issue to NCOs and guard commanders. Extremley reliable weapon and in the right hands, truly devastating. They have now been de-commissioned as IDF have adopted the Styer AUG personal weapon system, however the Gustaf as it was known, has been sold to some parts of the Indian police services.

[dawnrun911]

I thought I read somewhere that they replaced the M45 with the UZI.