I could listen to this woman for hours. Being Irish, and an aspiring poet, I drink her up, but feel she has said everything I could want to! Where to go from Eavan?
Listening to this wealthy, over-privileged 'poet of the nation' moan about oppression, and the horror of suburban domestic life in her safe, comfortable house out the southside makes me angry. Give me Behan, who at least, for right or wrong, put his money where his mouth was, and was aware of the contradictions and hypocrisy of literary expressions of nationalism and 'the nation'. Boland represents nobody but the elite, and has done nothing for the oppressed it wasn't in her own interest to do.
That's a really generic moral agenda you have there. Boland sympathises with the victims of the famine and a lot of her poetry is about recognising them. Who are you to say that, because she was born wealthy, she is not allowed to feel sorry for famine victims who suffered so greatly? In fact she actually talks about ativism in "The War Horse". Just because she didn't suffer in the famine herself doesn't mean that she's not allowed to feel strongly about Irish people suffering.
@IamGilgamesh666 Perhaps I expressed myself a little stridently, however, I do find the (so far as I can see) complete disregard for her privileged status in the society in which she lives objectionable given the overtly political nature of her poems. To bemoan her own plight without acknowledging the situation of her contemporaries, natives of the same city, who do not share the privileges she does, is remiss of a person of her standing.Reverential tone is also nauseating 4 my personal taste
@IamGilgamesh666 Also, I do believe if she feels so strongly about it she should stick her neck out and do something about it - other than writing poems which make her money and get her invited to posh parties. As I said, Behan earned his right to comment with blood sweat and years in prison - yet he was able to poke fun at his nation, his class and himself.
Well that could be said about any poet. What poets do IS write about issues and express their feelings like this. I don't know anything about Behan, I must admit, but I still think that Boland has every right to write about Irish suffering. Also, her poetry does highlight a lot of injustices; it educates people and that's invaluable. In her poem "Child of Our Time", for example, she creates a supreme disdain for extremist republicanism which many students have and will study.(Continued)
In my opinion, she has a right to express what she wants. I think that we disagree on whether her feelings are justified, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that account. Also, maybe she does give to charities and help people. I don't know.... but it's unfair to say that she hasn't without proof. You're judging her on a personal level, but you don't know her (presumably) so I think that that is quite unfair. :P
I could listen to this woman for hours. Being Irish, and an aspiring poet, I drink her up, but feel she has said everything I could want to! Where to go from Eavan?
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Listening to this wealthy, over-privileged 'poet of the nation' moan about oppression, and the horror of suburban domestic life in her safe, comfortable house out the southside makes me angry. Give me Behan, who at least, for right or wrong, put his money where his mouth was, and was aware of the contradictions and hypocrisy of literary expressions of nationalism and 'the nation'. Boland represents nobody but the elite, and has done nothing for the oppressed it wasn't in her own interest to do.
donnca 1 year ago
@donnca
That's a really generic moral agenda you have there. Boland sympathises with the victims of the famine and a lot of her poetry is about recognising them. Who are you to say that, because she was born wealthy, she is not allowed to feel sorry for famine victims who suffered so greatly? In fact she actually talks about ativism in "The War Horse". Just because she didn't suffer in the famine herself doesn't mean that she's not allowed to feel strongly about Irish people suffering.
IamGilgamesh666 9 months ago
@IamGilgamesh666 Perhaps I expressed myself a little stridently, however, I do find the (so far as I can see) complete disregard for her privileged status in the society in which she lives objectionable given the overtly political nature of her poems. To bemoan her own plight without acknowledging the situation of her contemporaries, natives of the same city, who do not share the privileges she does, is remiss of a person of her standing.Reverential tone is also nauseating 4 my personal taste
donnca 9 months ago
@IamGilgamesh666 Also, I do believe if she feels so strongly about it she should stick her neck out and do something about it - other than writing poems which make her money and get her invited to posh parties. As I said, Behan earned his right to comment with blood sweat and years in prison - yet he was able to poke fun at his nation, his class and himself.
donnca 9 months ago
@donnca
Well that could be said about any poet. What poets do IS write about issues and express their feelings like this. I don't know anything about Behan, I must admit, but I still think that Boland has every right to write about Irish suffering. Also, her poetry does highlight a lot of injustices; it educates people and that's invaluable. In her poem "Child of Our Time", for example, she creates a supreme disdain for extremist republicanism which many students have and will study.(Continued)
IamGilgamesh666 9 months ago
@donnca
In my opinion, she has a right to express what she wants. I think that we disagree on whether her feelings are justified, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that account. Also, maybe she does give to charities and help people. I don't know.... but it's unfair to say that she hasn't without proof. You're judging her on a personal level, but you don't know her (presumably) so I think that that is quite unfair. :P
IamGilgamesh666 9 months ago