@dean116 ye its tough rollin with seth online due to lag spikes and dp mashing/reversals. Faced a sickkkkk seth in a tourny once tho (obv offline) and he made my head spin with the double fadc madness and high low mixups in the corner. Akuma all the way for me though and Dudley too.
@dean116 sweet- yeah i play Gief online mainly, due to lag cus he is more about spacing and traps/vortex not so much about links. Offline I go Akuma/Dudley though. Im at uni at the mo, but add me bro and we'll def have some games!
@adidasrulez09 No, that's just an amusing coincidence. An ironic event is something you wouldn't expect to happen. It would be ironic if the Seth defeated Guile with the sonic boom since it is Guile's trademark weapon. However, you'd expect Seth to lose using the sonic boom since Guile is the generally perceived master of that move and would see it coming.
sucks for seth, he had over 50% of his health and had it stolen cuz of one misplaced sonic boom. sick reaction and combo styll but i felt the seth player felt robbed after that
@matarel There are options for getting in on guile and shotos. I'm a 4000 pp bison (not boasting, just saying I have some experience with the game). With Dhalsim, Seth, and Zangief, the entire match is played on their terms. You're running away from them the entire match, and when do you do get in close, they have plenty of options to hurt you (Dhalsim is by far the most ridicuous though, since the constant teleporting, anti-air options make getting in an absolute chore/bore rather than fun)
Okay first Seth has crap health and damage its not easy to control match when you have to constantly combo to deal decent damage. Also Zangief has his weaknesses . His damage is huge but he's really slow and his jump is terrible so you have to be patience. Dhalsim is arguable cause i hate fighting against this character but he's just as annoying as guile and any other shoryuken character
@dragonfistX200 Seth's health is not an equitable downside to all his advantages. And of course combos are useful in dealing out more damage--that's true for any character. But he's got a million tools to work with. We're debating whether or not characters have weaknesses, I'm talking about whether their weaknesses offset their strengths. And in my mind, these three characters are are disproportionately powerful.
@tuber123asd I totally agree on characters like Zangief and Dhalsim being retarded to fight against. Even Seth, since his huge amount of tools can render certain characters near useless. But with Seth, his insanely low HP is really what keeps him from being insanely OP - just look at the ending. One bad projectile and more than 50 % of HP is gone. However, I can't believe you left out how insanely retarded Guile and Bison are. Bison has a godlike set of normal moves and his specials are WAY safe
@Mamjaffar I main Bison, and I can tell you that his bad matchups are terrible. His psycho crusher is NOT safe, and you'd have to play bison to understand how horrible his headstomp is against better players. Admittedly the scissor kick is something to work with, but it's one of very few effective tools. Bison is definitely mid tier, and relies on the abilities of the player moreso than built in character advantages like so many other top tier characters.
but his health is the worst in the game. It only takes two or 3 solid combos to deal more than half his health and make him stun. Its the reason pros rarely use seth. plus his damage is not impressive at all. Well on the thing that zangief's strength overlaps his weakness is true. He's a monster in the right hands as he's able to break almost any defense and his damage(especially ultra 1) are huge. I use Zangief and pretty decent with him(B rank) but I use my main Hakan more.
but his health is the worst in the game. It only takes two or 3 solid combos to deal more than half his health and make him stun. Its the reason pros rarely use seth. plus his damage is not impressive at all. Well on the thing that zangief's strength overlaps his weakness is true. He's a monster in the right hands as he's able to break almost any defense and his damage(especially ultra 1) are huge. I use Zangief and pretty decent with him(B rank) but I use my main Hakan more.
but his health is the worst in the game. It only takes two or 3 solid combos to deal more than half his health and make him stun. Its the reason pros rarely use seth. plus his damage is not impressive at all. Well on the thing that zangief's strength overlaps his weakness is true. He's a monster in the right hands as he's able to break almost any defense and his damage(especially ultra 1) are huge. I use Zangief and pretty decent with him(B rank) but I use my main Hakan more.
I hoped that the Seth would win and thought that that Guile was kind of annoying, then when he got U2 out I glanced at the name, saw that it was ACE and immediatly thought how good he was.. finding out that your a bit of a fanboy(youst a bit) is an unpleasant experience.
WOW is all i kept saying that whole match...ACE was supposed to loose all those rounds but he stayed solid and pulled it out.....this is a clear example of why every guile player needs to learn flash kick fadc sonic hurricane.
@azadia21 horrible Seth? Your a fucking idiot.
destroytheface 9 months ago
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BLAZINGxFURY 10 months ago
I hate people who choose characters souly based on tier.. but dammit i can see why now :\ 2:57
BLAZINGxFURY 10 months ago
@BLAZINGxFURY lol, ummm, I don't think you know how difficult that is to do. the vast majority of Guile players can't even do that.
0ShinAkuma0 10 months ago 3
@0ShinAkuma0
Not saying ACE chooses Guile based on tier(just to clarify lol)
And yea, that didn't look easy, but that was almost 50% hp dmg(in 3 hits) to Seth Before ultra.
I honestly don't like the idea of choosing by tier but i can kinda see where some players are coming from when they do choose chars that way.
BLAZINGxFURY 10 months ago
@0ShinAkuma0 Exactly. I can't. Very hard stuff.
franzn81 7 months ago
Now this is why I play fuckin' Street Fighter.
Sooonic... HURRICAAANE.
KAAAY OOOOH.
Galkatokk 10 months ago
Horrible Seth
azadia21 10 months ago
heart dropped when i saw 1st round! but ace went it!
leaderofthemoment 10 months ago
that was a really good match, great Seth
mincereth 10 months ago
Wow, that match was amazing
BC2Recon 10 months ago
OUCH ace, that really hurt!!!!
MasterHi0b 10 months ago
that was hot.
shempi81 10 months ago
WOW ACE YOU THE MAN!! BEAUTIFUL!! So clutch its unbelievable.
thehillza 10 months ago
Too much damage, Seth life is like a paper!!
dean116 10 months ago
@dean116 because seths damage and stun and mixup potential is through the roof....besides...hes getting a HP buff in AE
Keldorn87 10 months ago
@Keldorn87 i love Seth but his life is a real handicap online lol, that why i stick to Cody, hope i ll get SSF4AE soon
dean116 10 months ago
@dean116 ye its tough rollin with seth online due to lag spikes and dp mashing/reversals. Faced a sickkkkk seth in a tourny once tho (obv offline) and he made my head spin with the double fadc madness and high low mixups in the corner. Akuma all the way for me though and Dudley too.
Keldorn87 10 months ago
@Keldorn87 i see u re a gief player, i ll add u when i back to xbl, i m french but i dont think it ll cause any lag
dean116 10 months ago
@dean116 sweet- yeah i play Gief online mainly, due to lag cus he is more about spacing and traps/vortex not so much about links. Offline I go Akuma/Dudley though. Im at uni at the mo, but add me bro and we'll def have some games!
Keldorn87 10 months ago
Ace is so smart, beautiful match, good game.
TheMeth90 10 months ago
Great ending : )
pianistq8 10 months ago
Ace is a fukn beast
erinnick007 10 months ago
I was so rooting for dat perfect for Seth in the first round
mexicanmex 10 months ago
Loses to Guile because of a misplaced Sonic Boom, how ironic.
adidasrulez09 10 months ago
@adidasrulez09 I don't think you know what the word 'irony' means.
Galkatokk 10 months ago
@Galkatokk
It's ironic because that's Guile's original move, and he lost to a Guile who bases his game on that projectile.I also think you're a troll.
adidasrulez09 10 months ago
@adidasrulez09 No, that's just an amusing coincidence. An ironic event is something you wouldn't expect to happen. It would be ironic if the Seth defeated Guile with the sonic boom since it is Guile's trademark weapon. However, you'd expect Seth to lose using the sonic boom since Guile is the generally perceived master of that move and would see it coming.
I think you're stupid.
Galkatokk 10 months ago
@Galkatokk
Oh I'm sorry, do I need to get a tardy for being late to troll class? You're blocked armchair Nazi.
adidasrulez09 10 months ago
@adidasrulez09 Oh no I've been blocked by adidasrulez09 whatever shall I do.
Galkatokk 10 months ago
that is why i will never touch seth that guy was kicking ace's ass the whole match but he made 2 or 3 mistakes and lost
b7ray32 10 months ago
Eirin, Eirin, help me Eirin...
NonRandomUser 10 months ago
ACE got lucky at the end... LOL
fcampelo24 10 months ago
The ending was the reason i dropped seth
BLASTTHEFOOL 10 months ago
Lol that Seth really wanted a perfect smh/..
DesertFox1124 10 months ago
sucks for seth, he had over 50% of his health and had it stolen cuz of one misplaced sonic boom. sick reaction and combo styll but i felt the seth player felt robbed after that
SuitedAces1 10 months ago
1:56 shows you the importance of FOCUS ATTACKING if you dash backwards/forwards :) I also do this everytime, and well.. you can see the result! :)
Optitius 10 months ago
HOLY SHIT that was a great match!!! Damn!!
0EricDaNerd0 10 months ago
inaba wanted that Perfect pretty badly.
Skriptz23 10 months ago
amazing
jdthefist 10 months ago
omg ace rin fuckin amazin best guile ever!!
FIRSTINFINESTELECTRO 10 months ago
holy fuck, what a match!
Henrique2017 10 months ago
Clutch finish!
RaymondLau123 10 months ago
Jojojojojo take that troll Seth!!!
Nariz2000 10 months ago
Way to not fucking choke ACE, good shit!
gemstony85 10 months ago
More seth roxas hiropon and poongko videos please Shin we enjoy watching your videos !
zombvida 10 months ago
Take that you cheap Seth!!
ButtZilla1031 10 months ago
whoa that was so fast paced i need to watch it again.
aznlilhero 10 months ago
he was so close to getting a perfect
SakuraJTX 10 months ago
hey shin what happend to pikagoma and robin01 ?? they dont play anymore ? or they r waiting on AE ?
xxHB311xx 10 months ago
That was a good battle. I can't hate on anything that occurred.
SinSeared 10 months ago 15
best jump in combo in the game
Shintroy 10 months ago
seth is such a stupid fucking character, as is Dhalsim, as is Zangief
tuber123asd 10 months ago
@tuber123asd as guile as shoryuken characters
matarel 10 months ago
@matarel There are options for getting in on guile and shotos. I'm a 4000 pp bison (not boasting, just saying I have some experience with the game). With Dhalsim, Seth, and Zangief, the entire match is played on their terms. You're running away from them the entire match, and when do you do get in close, they have plenty of options to hurt you (Dhalsim is by far the most ridicuous though, since the constant teleporting, anti-air options make getting in an absolute chore/bore rather than fun)
tuber123asd 10 months ago
@tuber123asd
Okay first Seth has crap health and damage its not easy to control match when you have to constantly combo to deal decent damage. Also Zangief has his weaknesses . His damage is huge but he's really slow and his jump is terrible so you have to be patience. Dhalsim is arguable cause i hate fighting against this character but he's just as annoying as guile and any other shoryuken character
dragonfistX200 10 months ago
@dragonfistX200 Seth's health is not an equitable downside to all his advantages. And of course combos are useful in dealing out more damage--that's true for any character. But he's got a million tools to work with. We're debating whether or not characters have weaknesses, I'm talking about whether their weaknesses offset their strengths. And in my mind, these three characters are are disproportionately powerful.
tuber123asd 10 months ago
@tuber123asd I totally agree on characters like Zangief and Dhalsim being retarded to fight against. Even Seth, since his huge amount of tools can render certain characters near useless. But with Seth, his insanely low HP is really what keeps him from being insanely OP - just look at the ending. One bad projectile and more than 50 % of HP is gone. However, I can't believe you left out how insanely retarded Guile and Bison are. Bison has a godlike set of normal moves and his specials are WAY safe
Mamjaffar 10 months ago
@Mamjaffar I main Bison, and I can tell you that his bad matchups are terrible. His psycho crusher is NOT safe, and you'd have to play bison to understand how horrible his headstomp is against better players. Admittedly the scissor kick is something to work with, but it's one of very few effective tools. Bison is definitely mid tier, and relies on the abilities of the player moreso than built in character advantages like so many other top tier characters.
tuber123asd 10 months ago
@tuber123asd
but his health is the worst in the game. It only takes two or 3 solid combos to deal more than half his health and make him stun. Its the reason pros rarely use seth. plus his damage is not impressive at all. Well on the thing that zangief's strength overlaps his weakness is true. He's a monster in the right hands as he's able to break almost any defense and his damage(especially ultra 1) are huge. I use Zangief and pretty decent with him(B rank) but I use my main Hakan more.
dragonfistX200 10 months ago
@tuber123asd
but his health is the worst in the game. It only takes two or 3 solid combos to deal more than half his health and make him stun. Its the reason pros rarely use seth. plus his damage is not impressive at all. Well on the thing that zangief's strength overlaps his weakness is true. He's a monster in the right hands as he's able to break almost any defense and his damage(especially ultra 1) are huge. I use Zangief and pretty decent with him(B rank) but I use my main Hakan more.
dragonfistX200 10 months ago
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@tuber123asd
but his health is the worst in the game. It only takes two or 3 solid combos to deal more than half his health and make him stun. Its the reason pros rarely use seth. plus his damage is not impressive at all. Well on the thing that zangief's strength overlaps his weakness is true. He's a monster in the right hands as he's able to break almost any defense and his damage(especially ultra 1) are huge. I use Zangief and pretty decent with him(B rank) but I use my main Hakan more.
dragonfistX200 10 months ago
loose:
Adjective: Not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached
lose:
1. Be deprived of or cease to have or retain (something): "I've lost my appetite".
2. Cause (someone) to fail to gain or retain (something): "you lost me my appointment at the university"
Example: Ace didn't lose this match since his game was tight as opposed to being loose.
sdtube01 10 months ago
Much respect for both players. Love ACE's Flash Kick FADC into Ultra 2.
HT2540 10 months ago
I like how seth has no health.
fawkes968 10 months ago
I hoped that the Seth would win and thought that that Guile was kind of annoying, then when he got U2 out I glanced at the name, saw that it was ACE and immediatly thought how good he was.. finding out that your a bit of a fanboy(youst a bit) is an unpleasant experience.
Dridokof 10 months ago
props to this seth.. he is very good
97kaio 10 months ago
0:58-1:03 should be in cool/funny moments of ssf4 :)
piscataway53 10 months ago
@piscataway53 It really should! lol
Jmal51 10 months ago
@piscataway53 It really should! lol
Jmal51 10 months ago
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@piscataway53 It really should. lol
Jmal51 10 months ago
The guy that uses Sonic Boom wins :)
sertaliozer1 10 months ago
THIS WAS A GREAT FIGHT, I COULD TASTE THE TENSION
iPOWNSCRUBS 10 months ago
Seth should've been on the left. It would've made more sense, given ACE's performance throughout the match. ;)
SithLordRagnos 10 months ago
WOW is all i kept saying that whole match...ACE was supposed to loose all those rounds but he stayed solid and pulled it out.....this is a clear example of why every guile player needs to learn flash kick fadc sonic hurricane.
P.S: LONG LIVE THE COLONEL!!!!!
MrSuRpRiS33 10 months ago
sonicooouuu b0-00m
K1fans 10 months ago
i actually thaught he was gonna loose lol
jjdabaddes 10 months ago
that 1st round sneaky seth
Linknot100 10 months ago
Sorry Seth your Sonic-boom is not as good as the original
XNDL44 10 months ago
@XNDL44 Sure it isn't. It's better. lol no charge required.
fcampelo24 10 months ago
@fcampelo24 What I meant by that was that Seth lost to Guile.
XNDL44 10 months ago
gud come back expected from ACE but the seth was descent
Kenjin0002 10 months ago
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619kammy 10 months ago
No that Seth was good
619kammy 10 months ago
@Kenjin0002 You mean decent? lol
fcampelo24 10 months ago
I love how seth is backdashing from the sonicboom thinking, "I must get perfect, I must get perfect!!!"
attitude8x 10 months ago
epic match requires an epic ending; sick reaction
Ammaculate44 10 months ago 11
lol at :58
yakkawoocha 10 months ago
Good match
ClickForOutkast 10 months ago