I appreciate her for standing up but.....she is wrong. It IS a clash of civilizations and culture. Any where there is diversity and multiculturalism, there is conflict. Even if everyone was the same religion, this conflict would still exist because of racial and ethnic sub category differences. For example, a majority of blacks and whites in the deep south are religious (Christianity) to some extent; but, conflicts and racial hatred between the two groups still is very prevalent to this day.
Show me a geniune bible from the TIME of Jesus (PBUH). When was the first testament written? What do you know about background and history of people writing bible?Did Matthew, Luke, John and others ever met Christ? Prove it!!
1 SAMUEL 15:3 NIV - Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them.Do not spare them;put to death men and women, CHILDREN and INFANTS, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys!!!
22:21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
22:22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.
@icbg63123 Amen! And thank God for sending His only begotten Son to take our place by His death on the cross and taking the curse of law upon Himself so that we don't have to! Galatians 3:13 “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree.” The sins described in Deuteronomy are still sins but thank God, Jesus has taken our place!
@giramino Thanks for the replies. I appreciate for you being polite and sensible in answering and making your point. Although I dont agree with what you have said, however I respect your views and it makes change as a lot of people here throw abuse at eachother and resort to swearing and name calling.
However does that means Mother Teressa and Hitler will be together in havens as Jesus (PBUH) died on the cross? Or recently like Norwegian killer who killed fellow Christians?
@icbg63123 "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23) Knowing the love and grace of God, if I notice that even Hitler made it to Heaven, I may raise my eyebrows in surprise, but won’t be shocked. But to answer your question, while I don’t personally believe Hitler is in Heaven that is not my decision. God is the judge and not anyone else. Any sin separates us from God. "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
@giramino Nice argument!! Well Chistianity is definitely not for me and I dont believe Trinity, and Jesus being son of God. Simple fact is John 5:7 has proven to be an addition into bible. The Church has been aware of this for centuries and it's now that they have accepted that it was an addition.
John, Luke and others never met Jesus and nobody knows who these people actually were!!!
Thats why even most Christians in Christian countries dont believe in Bible.
@icbg63123 Can anyone tell me that if Jesus said in a clear unambigious statement like " I AM GOD, WORSHIP ME??
If you look in Quran Allah has made it very clear there is no God apart from him. Very clear, no uncertainty, no question.
This book has been among Muslims for over1400 years. You can go anywhere in the world, any country, no one will find any differences(Arabic ones). And how Muslims kept it like that? By reciting whole book!! This has been the practice since begining.
@icbg63123 As I told you before, the koran is a collection of absolute lies. Even the references to Jesus were simply copied from accounts in the Bible to add validity to the counterfeit. In order to fool people, you have to make the counterfeit believable with certain elements of truth. Otherwise, nobody would ever accept the fake one. If it’s a fake $20 bill you want to counterfeit you have to use green ink, same size paper, picture of a president, etc. Regardless it’s still worthless.
@giramino Show me a geniune bible from the TIME of Jesus (PBUH). When was the first testament written? What do you know about background and history of people writing bible?Did Matthew, Luke, John and others ever met Christ? Prove it!!
@icbg63123 Yes they all followed Jesus daily and knew Him, His character and personality well. They heard the things He said daily and wrote most of them down. But even if they had never even met Him, the Bible is truth and works regardless. What you’re saying is the same as someone demanding proof that their product manual was really printed by Sony when all you need to know is that the CD player works perfectly without error.
@icbg63123 To understand the oneness of God, His Son and the Holy Spirit, you also need to understand even your own human composition. You are actually three parts, spirit, mind and body. Your spirit is actually who you are, it (you) lives in a body and has a mind while being one human being. Matthew 26:41, Romans 8:6, 1 Thessalonians 5:23 God said before the creation of Adam for instance, “Let US make man in OUR image” speaking of God, the Son and Holy Spirit. Genesis 1:26
@icbg63123 Anyway it has been nice discussion. Take care and if you get a chance try to read Quran as well. It may help clear the rumours that it condones wars/violence without any reason (well no more than Old Testamant for sure).
@icbg63123 The koran is a counterfeit, much like a fake $20 bill. You have to know what the real one is like to successfully identify the fake one. If you’ve never had a real $20 bill you would not even know if someone handed you a counterfeit. So read and study the Bible written hundreds of years before muhammad was even born and then compare it with his koran. You will discover that the God of the Bible is not the same as the god of the koran.
@giramino Which bible you are talking about? New Testaments which were written by people who never met Jesus (PBUH)?
If it was correct then John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" then why it has been removed and proven to be an addition.
Because of these things not many people believe in christianity. Number of atheist and non believres in West is a clear example. You need to convience them first!!!
@icbg63123 ‘When the Holy Spirit comes, He will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment’ John 16:8 It is important to note that none of us would be Christians at all if it were not for the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives. I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but the truth is that there are Christians by the billions worldwide and more becoming Christians each day. However, the number is not important. It's whether you accept Jesus or not.
@icbg63123 The account at the Pool of Bethesda was witnessed by dozens. And your references to Luke and John are frankly absurd. I’m not sure where your source was for these absolute lies but know that you should not trust whoever told you these things. Or you could have just made them up I’m not sure. Regardless all the statements you made were false. Interesting that you would invite me to study the koran (which I have for years) and you still don’t know the difference.
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord OUR God is ONE Lord
No matter of flipping or jumping up and down will change the meaning of that statement. Is there any single statement in bible says " I AM GOD WORSHIP ME" or somehhing remotely similar?
I can see lot of my comments have been flagged probably by you as spam. They have all references why not check them?
@icbg63123 Philippians 2:6-8 “Who, being the very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, He made Himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled himself by becoming obedient even to death on a cross.”
@icbg63123 John 5:18 "For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God."
@icbg63123 Jesus was asked about the Ten Commandments and which one was more important. He referred to the 1st Commandment "There shall be no other gods (plural) before Me". Jesus went further by stating that you should love your neighbor as yourself, knowing that if you do that single commandment you will not worship other gods (allah), you will not steal from your neighbors, you will not commit adultery, you will honor your mother and father, etc. And no I didn't 'flag' your comments :-)
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
As you can see the above statement, Jesus said "The Lord OUR Lord is ONE Lord". If Trinity was valid he should have mentioned that in this most important 1st commandment.
@icbg63123 The good news is that there's a way for us to be forgiven! There's a way for everyone to avoid receiving the wages of our sins. There's a way for us to live forever in the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus, Who never even once ever lied said with His own lips "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." John 14:6 The Bible tells us that we must repent of our sins, which is a sincere, life changing sorrow for all that you have done wrong in your life.
Please don't think that you need to make things right in your life before you can accept Jesus and His gift of salvation. Many people feel that way, but that's not what God says. It is through the Holy Spirit and God's grace that allows you to come to Him. Your own efforts to overcome your sins will not save you. Good deeds are great but will not save you. Regardless of how good you are or think you are there is only one way for a relationship with God. John14:6
@icbg63123 You can fast and pray 20 times a day facing toward Mecca and it will not save you or make you any closer to God than the acceptance of the One Who gave His life for you in your place since God knew a long time ago that you could not on your own. You can't earn salvation by doing good works. It's a free gift fom God that you can't earn no matter what you do. Your sins must be paid for. God's gift to you is Jesus Christ, Who paid the debt for you so that you might live forever in Heaven
@icbg63123 "If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved." (Romans 10:9-10). Everyone will eventually accept Jesus as Lord regardless of the lies of satan or their stubborn rejection of Him. Phillipians 2:5
@icbg63123 The Bible teaches that there will be those who are basically good people and far removed from those like Hitler and others who will be left behind and not enter Heaven, whereas others you would not expect to be there will be there. Matthew 24:40. This will be due to the decisions they made, their believing and accepting the truth about the gift of Salvation offered by God through His Son, Jesus and accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior.
@icbg63123 Jesus commanded us to ‘love our neighbors’. So if we love our neighbors we won’t commit adultery with a neighbor's husband or wife, we won’t steal from them, we won’t murder them or commit other sins against them. We are under the New Covenant now that Jesus died on the cross and declared, “It is finished” on the cross that day, just before the veil of the temple was torn by an earthquake at the moment of His death, allowing everyone into the temple!
@icbg63123 The Old Testament is still valid today. It lets us know the personality of God and His character. You You could consider it to be the ‘foundation of the house’ and the New Testament as the ‘house itself.’ Even though you don't live in the foundation of the house, you cannot remove the foundation or else you would destroy the entire house it is built upon. But you don’t live in the foundation, you live in the house.
@Mascew530 I removed your comments due to your obscene language that may have been offensive to others. This lady has simply received the truth about islam and of course does not fear satan, the allah that muslims worship. Only God the Creator, the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a concern and whether a person’s sins are forgiven.
@Mascew530 Many victims that join this evil cult simply don’t know that they are being lied to. What concerns most are the ones who know very well that islam is nothing more than an extremely evil satanic cult but recruit poor victims into the cult who simply don’t know better. This lady simply did not know any better and was not one of the muslim leaders or imans who act ‘holy’ and ‘peaceful’ while they know very well that they and other muslims worship satan but still urge others to join.
@giramino I'm apologize for my misbehavior. But you are christians, and will hardly believe that Islam means for peace. You can believe whatever you want about it. Allah/god is your lord, who you should fear, who created all of us. Even Satan. And Allah is not Satan. Man if you were a true believer in god you wouldn't say such things about Allah. But this lady will is ignorant and misguided. We Muslims fear god more than you, we don't make fitnah (things that god forbidds to do on earth)
@Mascew530 What you need to understand is that the God of the Bible, the God of Israel, God the Creator is in no way the same god muslims worship or pray to 5 times or 10 times a day. To say that God is satan, who muslims all pray to 5 times a day is an insult and slap in the face of God and you should be ashamed and ask for forgiveness through His Son, Jesus.
@giramino But you Christians don't even follow the bible! You do not even pray to god! We Muslims pray to god 5 times everyday! We go to the mosque every Friday! And you call yourself a real Christian? Man we muslims are more Christians than you! We love Jesus Christ peace be upon him more than you! So get the fact that it is you who should LEARN. I learn from the Quran and from god/Allah, the merciful and the great and the one only who is god. We Muslims loves the people more than ourselves.
@Mascew530 You need to not read, but study the Bible and the true God, the Creator, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to learn the difference. They are absolutely different in personality and character. And my God does not change (Malachi 3:6).
@th3Bl00dfu3l3d Are you saying that to have sex with one another is NOT what married people do? Let me educate you for a moment. God said that it, in fact, is only when married should a man and woman (WOMAN not a 9 year old girl) have sexual relationships. You obviously know nothing of God's Word and it is equally obvious that you are desperately in need of professional counseling and help.Please seek help before you hurt a child yourself as you are most likely a pedophile without conscience.
@simonfishee I’m not sure what point you are attempting to make, but if it’s comparing a Christian and a muslim then they have nothing whatsoever in common. Not even the God that Christians worship and serve is the same as the ‘god of this world’ that muslims worship and serve. I hope I have misunderstood your comment but if not, please study the numerous resources available to you, starting with the Bible, God's Holy Word. Sorry but otherwise your comment makes no sense whatsoever.
this woman is a hero, I'm worried for her life by coward Muslims, but truth prevails always, who damn cares if she hurts 1.3 billion Muslims? They always play the victim card, what's hurting 1.3 billion people if this is the thought of 5.6 billions of people? Is time to stop about thinking at the political correctness, are they correct? LOL, no they aren't.
mohamed waged 88 wars, and raped a 9 year old girl and married 66 women in 20 years. he was just a pervert. some moslems might say that what i am saying is not true. moselms deny the terrible things about islam and they lie about their religion in order to deceive the others. i have read hundreds of islamic books and the quran, and i come from an islamic background. in fact the real islam is shocking,, the civilized world must stop this savage bloody backward religion.
@alien21st A religion which importantly served in the development of the human mind cannot be backward and bloody. Look at Ibn Al Haitam, Abbass Ibn Farnass
customs of the people 1400 yrs ago it was a norm to marry off your daughters at 9. "
This is true.
However, for a man that was supposed to be the prophet of Gods final revelation to mankind, shouldn't he be above the norms of his time? Shouldn't he have displayed greater wisdom and morality than others of his time?
1400 yrs ago it was a norm to marry off your daughters at 9. " This is true.
To be more precise, this is NOT true. There is a plenty of evidence that Mohamed had to explain himself to his followers about his marriage. It required extensive "explanations", since marrying 9-year old was not a norm even at that time.
@MusaibnAdam You are a very sick and twisted individual who needs help. Please seek professional help before you harm some inocent child somewhere. Jesus is certainly able to not only forgive you but also deliver you from the evil that obviously has come upon you. Please seek help.
J'aime cette femme parce qu'elle est très franche et très courageuse de dire se qu'elle pense et je suis entièrement d'accord avec elle sur toute le ligne. Elle dit toujours la Verité et la Verité Blesse ceux qui sont contre la Vériter...Vive Wafa Sultan et toutes les femmes comme elle ainsi que tous les gens qui pensent comme elle, Bravooooooo!!!!!!!
@Truthfinderguy Is it better to warn those who will be in hell for eternity or be concerned about 'hurting one's feelings'? Muslims are highly deceived and need deliverance from the satanic cult of islam. I thank God for this brave and wonderful lady.
@giramino when she says :" it is a clash between two opposites", Is this logical? Is it a language of science? this lady is simply and straightforwardly a believer, as opposed to a thinker, as she keeps parroting ideas which are not her own. This lady knows nothing about the Islam culture nor about it's Jurisprudence. I do not claim, though, that the image of Muslim nations is bright. I am convinced that Muslim nations are still lurking behind Because Islamic Jurisprudence is not at all applied.
@Truthfinderguy How silly is that? Here's this lady trying to contradict people by making a solid of an argument as she can and you're biggest concern is apparently who she is offending by making her argument in the first place.
And while I'm to write this stuff out, I think giramino is a faggot for calling one of the world's oldest and most accepted religions a satanic cult. Notice how the fact that his comments offend me or hurts my feelings is completely irrelevant to the argument itself.
@Truthfinderguy Amen Truthfinderguy. May Almighty God the Creator bless and protect you and may He who is the Light of the World shine in the darkest recesses of the World and deliver those who are in bondage to the power of darkness. John 3:16!
It serves several noble purposes: - Truth. Truth that may hurt people's feelings is still truth. - Making good but somewhat naive people (i.e. Western liberals, mostly) realize that Islam needs to be resisted. - Encouraging non-believers living in Muslim countries to come out and speak out, as she does. Or at least to give a little courage to those who can't speak out for fear of their lives.
What a wise and brave person Mrs.Sultan is! One must be grateful there are people like her within the Arab nation. But I have to say I am rather worried about her safety...
she say the profet mohammed pbuh said 'i was ordered to fight the people until they belive in allah and his messenger'
THAT WAS WHEN HE TOLD PEOPLE OF WHAT HAS BEEN REVELED TO HIM BY ALLAH AND ALL THOSE DID NOT BELIVE DID NOT ALLOW HIM AND HIS PEOPLE TO WORSHIP THAT IS WHAT THEY HAD TO FIGHT FOR TO WORSHIP FREELY TO ALLAH. WAFA SULTAN DOES NOT SAY THAT CAUSE SHE HAS NO UNDERSTANDIN OF THE QURAN
I know enough Arabic to perform salat, so I doubt that if Waffle WAS telling the "truth", I'd understand it. However, I am quite proficient at reading the English translation and it's chocked full of half-truths, lies and her misunderstanding of a faith she never fully practiced (i.e. specifically, Islam).
@DeucePrez u know whats funny u may say that u may say islam teaches peace not violence and all that islam doesnt do violence ... but let me tell u something .. ill bet u a million bucks that if she was bak in her homeland of syria saying this stuff .... she would have been killed in an instant ...... by let me guess hmmmmmm i dont know ill give u a wild guess though actually i wont even say it cause it self explanatory ... dont be ignorant deuce just because u cant accept opinions
You may be correct. H o w e v e r.... it wouldn't be ISLAM that would kill her. Just an overzealous Muslim or one who loves Islam.
Not accepting opinions over facts is NOT "being ignorant". I'll cut you some slack as it appears that English isn't your 1st, 2nd, 3rd or perhaps 4th language, but you should learn it better before attempting to insult someone in that language.
@DeucePrez "You may be correct" ... that pretty much sums it up
why u worried about my grammar lol i honestly am not hating islam cause i have lived there in the middle east for 14 years i just don't get it in why out of all religions combine the so called Muslims have to be the most violent and ignorant of all
Aryans are Masters of the World; Everyone Else is Subhuman-By Khalim Massoud
If you think that the headline of this article sounds a little out of date, (seventy years or so), think again!
On August 28, 2007, Dr. Hamza Dhib Mustafa, member of the Palestinian Authority Supreme Fatwa Council, appointed last year by a so-called "moderate" PA president Mahmoud Abbas, stated the following, as noted in a NewsBlaze story:
Muslims are Masters of The World, Its Leaders and Teachers
Unfortunately, Islamic religious texts, including the Koran and the Hadith contain many passages, which call for Islamic domination and incite violence against non-Muslims. It is time to change that. Muslim fundamentalists believe that the Koran is the literal word of Allah. But could Allah, the most Merciful,the most Compassionate, command mass slaughter of people whose only fault is being non-Muslim?"
This comment+the one below fr MuslimsAgainstSharia website.
What on God's green earth are you talking about?? I'm referring to your quoting of a statement you stated was giving PA president Mahmoud Abbas. That'not a Muslim reading from the Qur'àn!
deuce, obviously the replies don't necessarily line up with the comments, so you DO need to refer to SOMETHING when you make your response. At any rate, my response remains the same. It's funny how muslims refer to discussions Islam bashing and hating.
And by the way, no one forces you to come here. You do have free will, right?
I try to not fight others' fights for them, so I assumed that you would know that I was referring to the most recent comment directed to me.
In regards to the charge of Islam-bashing: I stand by my charge.
I was making fun of Waffle and her rants. I DO have to come back to this page to address comments left to me.....if I want to address them. I didn't state that I was being forced to come to the page....literally.
Anyway....I haven't read much of a "discussion" about Islam here.
d bible was never changed its still d same but was made easy readable for better understand n translated into diff languages n u know inside the 1.4bn muslims very few can read the koran some dont no anything about thier religion they just follow the imam n bin laden like goats.
U say u r muslim&u talk about bible as if u r expert who have strong evendence!!that it was't changed!while say totaly wrong events about%of muslims who don' read Quran..what is ur sources(don't tell me CNN) + Mentioning that bin ladin is Like a leader for us is a clear answer not only that u r't a muslim but also that u have a totaly crupted information about islam & muslims; just for ur info. bin ladin followers r hunted all over the islamic countries cos of trubles they do
the guy said a name of a man who invented this name, BUT she said Muslims, WOW all muslims gathered infront of a very big cam and said "We call this situation claaaaash of civilizatiooooon"
if she is not just attacking why she didn't say a name it must be written in one of the millions of book that the west made :)
Regarding the Reexamination proccess of Islamic books May be she meant quran :) hahaha
kindly note that quran isn't a bible to make new versions from it & change it
if u don't understand quran ask :) but don't explain something u don't understand ;)
she has to know also that the lord who created her; know her better than herself so when the lord make a manual for his creation it lasts as long as this creation isn't changed he created the bodies, feelings the souls..
An arabic words mean "going out of a ..(idea)","disbelieving in something" Like I say I am kafer of trinity, so chrisians & jews are kafer of Islam "don't beleive in Islam" I think this is true and not insulting u, all her comments on what proph. Muhammad said or quran said either like this example or like taking a phrase was talking about a diff. case or situation at that time and using it just to have a point on Islam
egelbird, if you were to read the Quran from a non muslim point of view, your perspective would certainly change. The Quran conveys clearly a message of superiority and authority of the entire world. God create all of humankind, not just muslims. And no god would invent such nonsense sending his creations to a so-called hell (he knows their fate even as he creates them one would think, so that would be a very mean and nasty god)
While your post was addressed to egelbird, I'll address it. I HAVE read the Qur'àn from a non-Muslims point of view. I wasn't born as a Muslim; I converted to Islam. If you skim the Qur'àn with a slant, you could possibly read "superiority" into it. But don't READ it. Then, you might get the true meaning of it. Of course God created everyone. Who states differently?
Also, the names you mention. Did *I* call someone those names? If not, address your question to someone else!
deuce -Yes, god created everyone but, in fact, contrary to, for example, Christian teachings which include all of mankind, many teachings of Islam only apply to muslims. Again, you must know that yourself.
Scientific book :) not cos they have many bibles Ok
u forgot to tell them lady about muslim scientests whom the western civilization built on their knowelage in the early 17th cen. their ferther researches like Ibn Sina, Gaber Ibn Hayan, Edreesy.....etc of course u deleted this from your history books "people of Books"
also u didn't tell them that the numbers u r using till now in their great civilization are ARABIC noumbers :))
egelbird, I don't have the exact quote but you can search it eveb on Al-Jazeera. More books have been translated into Spanish in 1 (one) year than have ever been translated into Arabic. What is the implication? You tell me. So don't go on with your muslim history having been "deleted" crap. More like muslim history beeing invented.
u didn't see a jews blow himself in germany;of course..he don't want to secrify his life for something he don't beleive in+they took their revenge;money,distruction to their lands, AND Apology
and u didn't see also a jews burning our holy mosq in jurslem in 1969?
and u didn't see a jews intering the mosq and killing 40 unarmed prayer while they where praying in 1998?...want more?ask to know....
OH YES buddhist did not burn a mosq they distroy it to the ground in india before muslims do,it was also a pice of art,also all the islamic nation refused what taleban &binladin did COS OUR RELEGION ORDER US TO RESPECT OTHERS BELEIVES,Islam not responsible for muslims who brake his rules
listen am a muslim i think islam is shitty lets face the truth. u know that islam is nothing but trouble nice muhhammed time. most muslims no nothing about history n islam n they stand to defend rubbish she wafa saltan has seen the light n u are trying to cover thing that the world already knows men that will just only expose us
i int 1 of those who argue on youtube aright broda i just said what i thought i should say soo relax u sayn ''ISLAM IS SHIITY'' after that how dare u call ur self muslim so i suggest u dont tlk i dont wanna swear and i m sure neither do u soo keep it kool
Oh you are soo lying. Just like the other owner of the same video who referred to wafa saltan as an ex muslim. There;s no way in hell you're muslim and think what you just said.
Any Muslim that way about Islam is NOT truly a Muslim. If you stated that WE, MUSLIMS, have issues and you stated those issues, you comments would be worth reading.
But to say that "islam is shi _ _ y is 1) foul-mouthed and 2) uncharacteristic of a Muslim.....or anyone of faith.
Perhaps you don't even understand what you're stating, because your comments aren't structured very well. In fact, I don't understand much of what you've typed....
u dont understand anything the koran is made up of fabrication n contradiction and the koran make enemies with the unbelievers itstead of us loving them it only creat hatred for them open ur eyes see the truth read more of the koran u will understand.
i have spoken to soo many muslims brothers n they have understand me. i can show about 10 contrabiction n fabrication ps. but i cant go on show 1.3 billion people all this so if u need to know stick closer to ur religion may God lead u.
but we can CLEARLY see n SAW those JEWS with no HEARTS at all attacking kidS & women in Palestine without any reason..does the palestinians spitted on their shoes?Can u give me only ONE reason behind those UNRESPONSIBLE ATTACK?Just ONE..thank you so much..
brave woman!
ZobaK1 1 month ago
I appreciate her for standing up but.....she is wrong. It IS a clash of civilizations and culture. Any where there is diversity and multiculturalism, there is conflict. Even if everyone was the same religion, this conflict would still exist because of racial and ethnic sub category differences. For example, a majority of blacks and whites in the deep south are religious (Christianity) to some extent; but, conflicts and racial hatred between the two groups still is very prevalent to this day.
baller84milw 2 months ago
Show me a geniune bible from the TIME of Jesus (PBUH). When was the first testament written? What do you know about background and history of people writing bible?Did Matthew, Luke, John and others ever met Christ? Prove it!!
Mark 12:29-31 King James Version (KJV)
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord OUR God is ONE Lord:
So he said OUR GOD is ONE, not 2, not 3, not 3 in 1. ONE.
Clear as a bright sunny day, OUR GOD IS ONE!!!
icbg63123 3 months ago
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1 SAMUEL 15:3 NIV - Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them.Do not spare them;put to death men and women, CHILDREN and INFANTS, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys!!!
icbg63123 3 months ago
Deuteronomy
22:21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
22:22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.
icbg63123 3 months ago
@icbg63123 Amen! And thank God for sending His only begotten Son to take our place by His death on the cross and taking the curse of law upon Himself so that we don't have to! Galatians 3:13 “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree.” The sins described in Deuteronomy are still sins but thank God, Jesus has taken our place!
giramino 3 months ago 2
@giramino Thanks for the replies. I appreciate for you being polite and sensible in answering and making your point. Although I dont agree with what you have said, however I respect your views and it makes change as a lot of people here throw abuse at eachother and resort to swearing and name calling.
However does that means Mother Teressa and Hitler will be together in havens as Jesus (PBUH) died on the cross? Or recently like Norwegian killer who killed fellow Christians?
icbg63123 3 months ago
@icbg63123 "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23) Knowing the love and grace of God, if I notice that even Hitler made it to Heaven, I may raise my eyebrows in surprise, but won’t be shocked. But to answer your question, while I don’t personally believe Hitler is in Heaven that is not my decision. God is the judge and not anyone else. Any sin separates us from God. "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
giramino 3 months ago
@giramino Nice argument!! Well Chistianity is definitely not for me and I dont believe Trinity, and Jesus being son of God. Simple fact is John 5:7 has proven to be an addition into bible. The Church has been aware of this for centuries and it's now that they have accepted that it was an addition.
John, Luke and others never met Jesus and nobody knows who these people actually were!!!
Thats why even most Christians in Christian countries dont believe in Bible.
icbg63123 3 months ago
@icbg63123 Can anyone tell me that if Jesus said in a clear unambigious statement like " I AM GOD, WORSHIP ME??
If you look in Quran Allah has made it very clear there is no God apart from him. Very clear, no uncertainty, no question.
This book has been among Muslims for over1400 years. You can go anywhere in the world, any country, no one will find any differences(Arabic ones). And how Muslims kept it like that? By reciting whole book!! This has been the practice since begining.
icbg63123 3 months ago
@icbg63123 As I told you before, the koran is a collection of absolute lies. Even the references to Jesus were simply copied from accounts in the Bible to add validity to the counterfeit. In order to fool people, you have to make the counterfeit believable with certain elements of truth. Otherwise, nobody would ever accept the fake one. If it’s a fake $20 bill you want to counterfeit you have to use green ink, same size paper, picture of a president, etc. Regardless it’s still worthless.
giramino 3 months ago
@giramino Show me a geniune bible from the TIME of Jesus (PBUH). When was the first testament written? What do you know about background and history of people writing bible?Did Matthew, Luke, John and others ever met Christ? Prove it!!
Mark 12:29-31 King James Version (KJV)
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord OUR God is ONE Lord:
So he said OUR GOD is ONE, not 2, not 3, not 3 in 1. ONE.
Clear as a bright sunny day, OUR GOD IS ONE!!!
icbg63123 3 months ago
@icbg63123 Yes they all followed Jesus daily and knew Him, His character and personality well. They heard the things He said daily and wrote most of them down. But even if they had never even met Him, the Bible is truth and works regardless. What you’re saying is the same as someone demanding proof that their product manual was really printed by Sony when all you need to know is that the CD player works perfectly without error.
giramino 3 months ago
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@giramino "Yes they all followed Jesus daily and knew Him"
Wow we were talking about the truth and how correct the bible is, you are coming up with Sony manual!!
If it was that correct thent Church would not have removed John 5:7 (trinity). Mind you they knew about this for centuries.
Dont believe me? Check out various new versions of bible yourself or ask a Chritian scholar.
icbg63123 3 months ago
@icbg63123 To understand the oneness of God, His Son and the Holy Spirit, you also need to understand even your own human composition. You are actually three parts, spirit, mind and body. Your spirit is actually who you are, it (you) lives in a body and has a mind while being one human being. Matthew 26:41, Romans 8:6, 1 Thessalonians 5:23 God said before the creation of Adam for instance, “Let US make man in OUR image” speaking of God, the Son and Holy Spirit. Genesis 1:26
giramino 3 months ago
@icbg63123 Anyway it has been nice discussion. Take care and if you get a chance try to read Quran as well. It may help clear the rumours that it condones wars/violence without any reason (well no more than Old Testamant for sure).
icbg63123 3 months ago
@icbg63123 The koran is a counterfeit, much like a fake $20 bill. You have to know what the real one is like to successfully identify the fake one. If you’ve never had a real $20 bill you would not even know if someone handed you a counterfeit. So read and study the Bible written hundreds of years before muhammad was even born and then compare it with his koran. You will discover that the God of the Bible is not the same as the god of the koran.
giramino 3 months ago
@giramino Which bible you are talking about? New Testaments which were written by people who never met Jesus (PBUH)?
If it was correct then John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" then why it has been removed and proven to be an addition.
Because of these things not many people believe in christianity. Number of atheist and non believres in West is a clear example. You need to convience them first!!!
icbg63123 3 months ago
@icbg63123 ‘When the Holy Spirit comes, He will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment’ John 16:8 It is important to note that none of us would be Christians at all if it were not for the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives. I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but the truth is that there are Christians by the billions worldwide and more becoming Christians each day. However, the number is not important. It's whether you accept Jesus or not.
giramino 3 months ago
@icbg63123 The account at the Pool of Bethesda was witnessed by dozens. And your references to Luke and John are frankly absurd. I’m not sure where your source was for these absolute lies but know that you should not trust whoever told you these things. Or you could have just made them up I’m not sure. Regardless all the statements you made were false. Interesting that you would invite me to study the koran (which I have for years) and you still don’t know the difference.
giramino 3 months ago
@giramino If you think I have made up then why not check it yourself?
mark 12:29
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord OUR God is ONE Lord
No matter of flipping or jumping up and down will change the meaning of that statement. Is there any single statement in bible says " I AM GOD WORSHIP ME" or somehhing remotely similar?
I can see lot of my comments have been flagged probably by you as spam. They have all references why not check them?
icbg63123 3 months ago
@icbg63123 Philippians 2:6-8 “Who, being the very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, He made Himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled himself by becoming obedient even to death on a cross.”
giramino 3 months ago
@icbg63123 John 5:18 "For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God."
giramino 3 months ago
@icbg63123 Jesus was asked about the Ten Commandments and which one was more important. He referred to the 1st Commandment "There shall be no other gods (plural) before Me". Jesus went further by stating that you should love your neighbor as yourself, knowing that if you do that single commandment you will not worship other gods (allah), you will not steal from your neighbors, you will not commit adultery, you will honor your mother and father, etc. And no I didn't 'flag' your comments :-)
giramino 3 months ago
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@giramino Mark 12:29-31 King James Version (KJV)
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
As you can see the above statement, Jesus said "The Lord OUR Lord is ONE Lord". If Trinity was valid he should have mentioned that in this most important 1st commandment.
icbg63123 3 months ago
@icbg63123 The good news is that there's a way for us to be forgiven! There's a way for everyone to avoid receiving the wages of our sins. There's a way for us to live forever in the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus, Who never even once ever lied said with His own lips "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." John 14:6 The Bible tells us that we must repent of our sins, which is a sincere, life changing sorrow for all that you have done wrong in your life.
giramino 3 months ago
Please don't think that you need to make things right in your life before you can accept Jesus and His gift of salvation. Many people feel that way, but that's not what God says. It is through the Holy Spirit and God's grace that allows you to come to Him. Your own efforts to overcome your sins will not save you. Good deeds are great but will not save you. Regardless of how good you are or think you are there is only one way for a relationship with God. John14:6
giramino 3 months ago
@icbg63123 You can fast and pray 20 times a day facing toward Mecca and it will not save you or make you any closer to God than the acceptance of the One Who gave His life for you in your place since God knew a long time ago that you could not on your own. You can't earn salvation by doing good works. It's a free gift fom God that you can't earn no matter what you do. Your sins must be paid for. God's gift to you is Jesus Christ, Who paid the debt for you so that you might live forever in Heaven
giramino 3 months ago
@icbg63123 "If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved." (Romans 10:9-10). Everyone will eventually accept Jesus as Lord regardless of the lies of satan or their stubborn rejection of Him. Phillipians 2:5
giramino 3 months ago
@icbg63123 The Bible teaches that there will be those who are basically good people and far removed from those like Hitler and others who will be left behind and not enter Heaven, whereas others you would not expect to be there will be there. Matthew 24:40. This will be due to the decisions they made, their believing and accepting the truth about the gift of Salvation offered by God through His Son, Jesus and accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior.
giramino 3 months ago
@icbg63123 Jesus commanded us to ‘love our neighbors’. So if we love our neighbors we won’t commit adultery with a neighbor's husband or wife, we won’t steal from them, we won’t murder them or commit other sins against them. We are under the New Covenant now that Jesus died on the cross and declared, “It is finished” on the cross that day, just before the veil of the temple was torn by an earthquake at the moment of His death, allowing everyone into the temple!
giramino 3 months ago
@icbg63123 The Old Testament is still valid today. It lets us know the personality of God and His character. You You could consider it to be the ‘foundation of the house’ and the New Testament as the ‘house itself.’ Even though you don't live in the foundation of the house, you cannot remove the foundation or else you would destroy the entire house it is built upon. But you don’t live in the foundation, you live in the house.
giramino 3 months ago
@Mascew530 I removed your comments due to your obscene language that may have been offensive to others. This lady has simply received the truth about islam and of course does not fear satan, the allah that muslims worship. Only God the Creator, the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a concern and whether a person’s sins are forgiven.
giramino 6 months ago
@Mascew530 Many victims that join this evil cult simply don’t know that they are being lied to. What concerns most are the ones who know very well that islam is nothing more than an extremely evil satanic cult but recruit poor victims into the cult who simply don’t know better. This lady simply did not know any better and was not one of the muslim leaders or imans who act ‘holy’ and ‘peaceful’ while they know very well that they and other muslims worship satan but still urge others to join.
giramino 6 months ago
@giramino I'm apologize for my misbehavior. But you are christians, and will hardly believe that Islam means for peace. You can believe whatever you want about it. Allah/god is your lord, who you should fear, who created all of us. Even Satan. And Allah is not Satan. Man if you were a true believer in god you wouldn't say such things about Allah. But this lady will is ignorant and misguided. We Muslims fear god more than you, we don't make fitnah (things that god forbidds to do on earth)
Mascew530 6 months ago
@Mascew530 What you need to understand is that the God of the Bible, the God of Israel, God the Creator is in no way the same god muslims worship or pray to 5 times or 10 times a day. To say that God is satan, who muslims all pray to 5 times a day is an insult and slap in the face of God and you should be ashamed and ask for forgiveness through His Son, Jesus.
giramino 6 months ago
@giramino But you Christians don't even follow the bible! You do not even pray to god! We Muslims pray to god 5 times everyday! We go to the mosque every Friday! And you call yourself a real Christian? Man we muslims are more Christians than you! We love Jesus Christ peace be upon him more than you! So get the fact that it is you who should LEARN. I learn from the Quran and from god/Allah, the merciful and the great and the one only who is god. We Muslims loves the people more than ourselves.
Mascew530 6 months ago
@Mascew530 You need to not read, but study the Bible and the true God, the Creator, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to learn the difference. They are absolutely different in personality and character. And my God does not change (Malachi 3:6).
giramino 6 months ago
Woow .This woman is good!
strictlaw 6 months ago
you guys are perverts. just because he married a 9 year old doesnt mean he had sex with her at nine. bitches.
th3Bl00dfu3l3d 7 months ago
@th3Bl00dfu3l3d Are you saying that to have sex with one another is NOT what married people do? Let me educate you for a moment. God said that it, in fact, is only when married should a man and woman (WOMAN not a 9 year old girl) have sexual relationships. You obviously know nothing of God's Word and it is equally obvious that you are desperately in need of professional counseling and help.Please seek help before you hurt a child yourself as you are most likely a pedophile without conscience.
giramino 7 months ago
Wow this woman is great!
balouthewatz 10 months ago 9
Refreshing.
artkilla 10 months ago 3
A great woman.
Trigaranus 10 months ago 5
@simonfishee I’m not sure what point you are attempting to make, but if it’s comparing a Christian and a muslim then they have nothing whatsoever in common. Not even the God that Christians worship and serve is the same as the ‘god of this world’ that muslims worship and serve. I hope I have misunderstood your comment but if not, please study the numerous resources available to you, starting with the Bible, God's Holy Word. Sorry but otherwise your comment makes no sense whatsoever.
giramino 10 months ago
this woman is a hero, I'm worried for her life by coward Muslims, but truth prevails always, who damn cares if she hurts 1.3 billion Muslims? They always play the victim card, what's hurting 1.3 billion people if this is the thought of 5.6 billions of people? Is time to stop about thinking at the political correctness, are they correct? LOL, no they aren't.
GEERT WILDERS OU AKBAR
Beretta9mmIfication1 1 year ago
great woman, I love her speech and LOVE her personally also. It is true, islam is the cancer of the world, they should be stopped immediately.
Solman499 1 year ago
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mohamed waged 88 wars, and raped a 9 year old girl and married 66 women in 20 years. he was just a pervert. some moslems might say that what i am saying is not true. moselms deny the terrible things about islam and they lie about their religion in order to deceive the others. i have read hundreds of islamic books and the quran, and i come from an islamic background. in fact the real islam is shocking,, the civilized world must stop this savage bloody backward religion.
alien21st 1 year ago 69
@alien21st A religion which importantly served in the development of the human mind cannot be backward and bloody. Look at Ibn Al Haitam, Abbass Ibn Farnass
And many others.
koyo719 1 year ago
@koyo719 hehehehe,, that is funny,, thanks for the joke though
alien21st 1 year ago
@koyo719 the socalled islam is NOT a religion it'sa pure criminal enterprise.
joejoe4812 11 months ago 2
@koyo719 islam is a satanic cult.
joejoe4812 11 months ago
@alien21st just by the way you've expressed yourself concerning islam, i can clearly declare your
ignorance of it. therfore, i fail to believe you come from a muslim background, or that you've read
Qur'an and the 100s of imaginary books. Muhammed S.A.W had 12 wives and due to the
customs of the people 1400 yrs ago it was a norm to marry off your daughters at 9. and
if you do proper and just research you'll find, 200 yrs ago 10 was the age of consent in
the western world, such as usa.
MusaibnAdam 11 months ago
@MusaibnAdam "and due to the
customs of the people 1400 yrs ago it was a norm to marry off your daughters at 9. "
This is true.
However, for a man that was supposed to be the prophet of Gods final revelation to mankind, shouldn't he be above the norms of his time? Shouldn't he have displayed greater wisdom and morality than others of his time?
Averagegamer100 10 months ago 5
@Averagegamer100
1400 yrs ago it was a norm to marry off your daughters at 9. " This is true.
To be more precise, this is NOT true. There is a plenty of evidence that Mohamed had to explain himself to his followers about his marriage. It required extensive "explanations", since marrying 9-year old was not a norm even at that time.
Birukoff 7 months ago
@MusaibnAdam You are a very sick and twisted individual who needs help. Please seek professional help before you harm some inocent child somewhere. Jesus is certainly able to not only forgive you but also deliver you from the evil that obviously has come upon you. Please seek help.
giramino 9 months ago
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J'aime cette femme parce qu'elle est très franche et très courageuse de dire se qu'elle pense et je suis entièrement d'accord avec elle sur toute le ligne. Elle dit toujours la Verité et la Verité Blesse ceux qui sont contre la Vériter...Vive Wafa Sultan et toutes les femmes comme elle ainsi que tous les gens qui pensent comme elle, Bravooooooo!!!!!!!
JeMeVoilePasLaFace 1 year ago
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This lady does not know that what she is speaking. Hurting the feelings of 1.5 billion muslims does not serve any noble purpose.
Truthfinderguy 1 year ago
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@Truthfinderguy Is it better to warn those who will be in hell for eternity or be concerned about 'hurting one's feelings'? Muslims are highly deceived and need deliverance from the satanic cult of islam. I thank God for this brave and wonderful lady.
giramino 1 year ago 12
@giramino when she says :" it is a clash between two opposites", Is this logical? Is it a language of science? this lady is simply and straightforwardly a believer, as opposed to a thinker, as she keeps parroting ideas which are not her own. This lady knows nothing about the Islam culture nor about it's Jurisprudence. I do not claim, though, that the image of Muslim nations is bright. I am convinced that Muslim nations are still lurking behind Because Islamic Jurisprudence is not at all applied.
koyo719 1 year ago
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I shit on you fellings, you muslim fuck!!!
1234mirko 1 year ago
@Truthfinderguy How silly is that? Here's this lady trying to contradict people by making a solid of an argument as she can and you're biggest concern is apparently who she is offending by making her argument in the first place.
And while I'm to write this stuff out, I think giramino is a faggot for calling one of the world's oldest and most accepted religions a satanic cult. Notice how the fact that his comments offend me or hurts my feelings is completely irrelevant to the argument itself.
Wanderrful 1 year ago
@Truthfinderguy Amen Truthfinderguy. May Almighty God the Creator bless and protect you and may He who is the Light of the World shine in the darkest recesses of the World and deliver those who are in bondage to the power of darkness. John 3:16!
frbjoern 1 year ago
@Truthfinderguy
It serves several noble purposes: - Truth. Truth that may hurt people's feelings is still truth. - Making good but somewhat naive people (i.e. Western liberals, mostly) realize that Islam needs to be resisted. - Encouraging non-believers living in Muslim countries to come out and speak out, as she does. Or at least to give a little courage to those who can't speak out for fear of their lives.
PhlegmMaster 10 months ago 2
Wow. Who is that woman? Smart and brave. She's very bright. Well done.
Trajan3876 2 years ago
Wafa Sultan,smart and brave person,i hope that all the arab will be like Wafa Sultan,Thank you for these smart and wonder word !!!
eitanref 2 years ago
watch?v=EJKRF2uB8xU
Pat Condell: Shame on the Netherlands
marwon8 3 years ago 4
What a wise and brave person Mrs.Sultan is! One must be grateful there are people like her within the Arab nation. But I have to say I am rather worried about her safety...
Borysculus 3 years ago 4
I absolutely love this video
It really gives me hope for humanity.
There are at least a few people on this earth who have the moral courage to oppose evil.
Wafa Sultan, you are my new hero!!!
digerateur 3 years ago 4
she say the profet mohammed pbuh said 'i was ordered to fight the people until they belive in allah and his messenger'
THAT WAS WHEN HE TOLD PEOPLE OF WHAT HAS BEEN REVELED TO HIM BY ALLAH AND ALL THOSE DID NOT BELIVE DID NOT ALLOW HIM AND HIS PEOPLE TO WORSHIP THAT IS WHAT THEY HAD TO FIGHT FOR TO WORSHIP FREELY TO ALLAH. WAFA SULTAN DOES NOT SAY THAT CAUSE SHE HAS NO UNDERSTANDIN OF THE QURAN
islamwilltake 3 years ago
Shes a smart women.
It's funny how people react to this video.
MidEasTBeauTy408 3 years ago
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Every time I come to reply to those bashing Islam, I have to shut Waffle up!! I don't want to hear her ramblings....!
DeucePrez 3 years ago
you are just scared of hearing the truth
Squealer01 3 years ago
Squealer:
That's funny.
I know enough Arabic to perform salat, so I doubt that if Waffle WAS telling the "truth", I'd understand it. However, I am quite proficient at reading the English translation and it's chocked full of half-truths, lies and her misunderstanding of a faith she never fully practiced (i.e. specifically, Islam).
DeucePrez 3 years ago
@DeucePrez u know whats funny u may say that u may say islam teaches peace not violence and all that islam doesnt do violence ... but let me tell u something .. ill bet u a million bucks that if she was bak in her homeland of syria saying this stuff .... she would have been killed in an instant ...... by let me guess hmmmmmm i dont know ill give u a wild guess though actually i wont even say it cause it self explanatory ... dont be ignorant deuce just because u cant accept opinions
TheLaidbak 1 year ago
@TheLaidbak:
I'll TRY to muddle through your post....
You may be correct. H o w e v e r.... it wouldn't be ISLAM that would kill her. Just an overzealous Muslim or one who loves Islam.
Not accepting opinions over facts is NOT "being ignorant". I'll cut you some slack as it appears that English isn't your 1st, 2nd, 3rd or perhaps 4th language, but you should learn it better before attempting to insult someone in that language.
#epicfail
DeucePrez 1 year ago
@DeucePrez "You may be correct" ... that pretty much sums it up
why u worried about my grammar lol i honestly am not hating islam cause i have lived there in the middle east for 14 years i just don't get it in why out of all religions combine the so called Muslims have to be the most violent and ignorant of all
TheLaidbak 1 year ago
@TheLaidbak:
"You may be correct" (regarding Waffle being killed, that is), but, again, it would not be Islam or anything based on Islam for her being killed.
It wasn't easy to decipher your post. That's all I was saying about your English usage.
Example:
u know whats funny u may say that u may say islam teaches peace not violence and all that islam doesnt do violence ...
HUH?
Islam DOES teach peace, just like Christianity. But read the OT of the Bible. Not much "peace & love" there....
DeucePrez 1 year ago
she speaks the truth
sharki369 3 years ago
deuce - example:
Aryans are Masters of the World; Everyone Else is Subhuman-By Khalim Massoud
If you think that the headline of this article sounds a little out of date, (seventy years or so), think again!
On August 28, 2007, Dr. Hamza Dhib Mustafa, member of the Palestinian Authority Supreme Fatwa Council, appointed last year by a so-called "moderate" PA president Mahmoud Abbas, stated the following, as noted in a NewsBlaze story:
Muslims are Masters of The World, Its Leaders and Teachers
kumoja 3 years ago
"Inconsistencies in the Koran-
Unfortunately, Islamic religious texts, including the Koran and the Hadith contain many passages, which call for Islamic domination and incite violence against non-Muslims. It is time to change that. Muslim fundamentalists believe that the Koran is the literal word of Allah. But could Allah, the most Merciful,the most Compassionate, command mass slaughter of people whose only fault is being non-Muslim?"
This comment+the one below fr MuslimsAgainstSharia website.
kumoja 3 years ago 2
kumoja:
I'm not following you on your post....
How, in your opinion, is ONE Muslim's opinion representative of all Muslims and Islam, in general?
DeucePrez 3 years ago
deuce...what is there to follow? A muslim quoting the Quran. Did I add any comments? No. So don't try and put words in my mouth.
kumoja 3 years ago
kumoja:
??
What on God's green earth are you talking about?? I'm referring to your quoting of a statement you stated was giving PA president Mahmoud Abbas. That'not a Muslim reading from the Qur'àn!
DeucePrez 3 years ago
deuce, obviously the replies don't necessarily line up with the comments, so you DO need to refer to SOMETHING when you make your response. At any rate, my response remains the same. It's funny how muslims refer to discussions Islam bashing and hating.
And by the way, no one forces you to come here. You do have free will, right?
kumoja 3 years ago
kumoja:
I try to not fight others' fights for them, so I assumed that you would know that I was referring to the most recent comment directed to me.
In regards to the charge of Islam-bashing: I stand by my charge.
I was making fun of Waffle and her rants. I DO have to come back to this page to address comments left to me.....if I want to address them. I didn't state that I was being forced to come to the page....literally.
Anyway....I haven't read much of a "discussion" about Islam here.
DeucePrez 3 years ago
d bible was never changed its still d same but was made easy readable for better understand n translated into diff languages n u know inside the 1.4bn muslims very few can read the koran some dont no anything about thier religion they just follow the imam n bin laden like goats.
levnerbrown 3 years ago
Very strange!!
U say u r muslim&u talk about bible as if u r expert who have strong evendence!!that it was't changed!while say totaly wrong events about%of muslims who don' read Quran..what is ur sources(don't tell me CNN) + Mentioning that bin ladin is Like a leader for us is a clear answer not only that u r't a muslim but also that u have a totaly crupted information about islam & muslims; just for ur info. bin ladin followers r hunted all over the islamic countries cos of trubles they do
egelbird 3 years ago
clash of civilization,
the guy said a name of a man who invented this name, BUT she said Muslims, WOW all muslims gathered infront of a very big cam and said "We call this situation claaaaash of civilizatiooooon"
if she is not just attacking why she didn't say a name it must be written in one of the millions of book that the west made :)
egelbird 3 years ago
Regarding the Reexamination proccess of Islamic books May be she meant quran :) hahaha
kindly note that quran isn't a bible to make new versions from it & change it
if u don't understand quran ask :) but don't explain something u don't understand ;)
she has to know also that the lord who created her; know her better than herself so when the lord make a manual for his creation it lasts as long as this creation isn't changed he created the bodies, feelings the souls..
egelbird 3 years ago
KAFER & TAKFEER,
An arabic words mean "going out of a ..(idea)","disbelieving in something" Like I say I am kafer of trinity, so chrisians & jews are kafer of Islam "don't beleive in Islam" I think this is true and not insulting u, all her comments on what proph. Muhammad said or quran said either like this example or like taking a phrase was talking about a diff. case or situation at that time and using it just to have a point on Islam
egelbird 3 years ago
egelbird, if you were to read the Quran from a non muslim point of view, your perspective would certainly change. The Quran conveys clearly a message of superiority and authority of the entire world. God create all of humankind, not just muslims. And no god would invent such nonsense sending his creations to a so-called hell (he knows their fate even as he creates them one would think, so that would be a very mean and nasty god)
kumoja 3 years ago
kumoja:
While your post was addressed to egelbird, I'll address it. I HAVE read the Qur'àn from a non-Muslims point of view. I wasn't born as a Muslim; I converted to Islam. If you skim the Qur'àn with a slant, you could possibly read "superiority" into it. But don't READ it. Then, you might get the true meaning of it. Of course God created everyone. Who states differently?
Also, the names you mention. Did *I* call someone those names? If not, address your question to someone else!
DeucePrez 3 years ago
deuce, with regard to the name-calling, I am making references to the Quran, and you should know that!
kumoja 3 years ago
deuce -Yes, god created everyone but, in fact, contrary to, for example, Christian teachings which include all of mankind, many teachings of Islam only apply to muslims. Again, you must know that yourself.
kumoja 3 years ago
OK people of the books,
Scientific book :) not cos they have many bibles Ok
u forgot to tell them lady about muslim scientests whom the western civilization built on their knowelage in the early 17th cen. their ferther researches like Ibn Sina, Gaber Ibn Hayan, Edreesy.....etc of course u deleted this from your history books "people of Books"
also u didn't tell them that the numbers u r using till now in their great civilization are ARABIC noumbers :))
egelbird 3 years ago
egelbird, I don't have the exact quote but you can search it eveb on Al-Jazeera. More books have been translated into Spanish in 1 (one) year than have ever been translated into Arabic. What is the implication? You tell me. So don't go on with your muslim history having been "deleted" crap. More like muslim history beeing invented.
Oreke1 3 years ago
MOSQ r safe..hahaha
u didn't see a jews blow himself in germany;of course..he don't want to secrify his life for something he don't beleive in+they took their revenge;money,distruction to their lands, AND Apology
and u didn't see also a jews burning our holy mosq in jurslem in 1969?
and u didn't see a jews intering the mosq and killing 40 unarmed prayer while they where praying in 1998?...want more?ask to know....
u see only palestinians attaching Israelies ;)
egelbird 3 years ago
jews gave humanity?!!
hahaha
thats why europe in 18th cen. call them dirty jews
and planed to get rid of them by planting them in palestine cos they find uganda not attractive to them,
that's why also christians killed 6 million of them as jews says!!! ..
from all above it seems like not muslims who hate jews
from the other side what poor jews do to bad muslim ;)
they only WORKED as the lady said
ON TAKING their land by force in 1948,1956,1967,&1981 and the bad muslims fight back
egelbird 3 years ago
get real i see u dont know anything at all. soo shut up retard!!
levnerbrown 3 years ago
oh see :)))
is this an answer to the above levnerbrown ?
or u have nothing to say but SHUT UP ;)
I think that U Have nothing to say but this
egelbird 3 years ago
OH YES buddhist did not burn a mosq they distroy it to the ground in india before muslims do,it was also a pice of art,also all the islamic nation refused what taleban &binladin did COS OUR RELEGION ORDER US TO RESPECT OTHERS BELEIVES,Islam not responsible for muslims who brake his rules
egelbird 3 years ago
listen am a muslim i think islam is shitty lets face the truth. u know that islam is nothing but trouble nice muhhammed time. most muslims no nothing about history n islam n they stand to defend rubbish she wafa saltan has seen the light n u are trying to cover thing that the world already knows men that will just only expose us
levnerbrown 3 years ago
dont say ur muslim because ur not
Makavellisouljah 3 years ago
am tired of arguing with u guys ur facts dont make sense for one most muslims dont n cant even read the koran.
levnerbrown 3 years ago
i int 1 of those who argue on youtube aright broda i just said what i thought i should say soo relax u sayn ''ISLAM IS SHIITY'' after that how dare u call ur self muslim so i suggest u dont tlk i dont wanna swear and i m sure neither do u soo keep it kool
Makavellisouljah 3 years ago
Oh you are soo lying. Just like the other owner of the same video who referred to wafa saltan as an ex muslim. There;s no way in hell you're muslim and think what you just said.
thereisnonick 3 years ago
levnerb:
Any Muslim that way about Islam is NOT truly a Muslim. If you stated that WE, MUSLIMS, have issues and you stated those issues, you comments would be worth reading.
But to say that "islam is shi _ _ y is 1) foul-mouthed and 2) uncharacteristic of a Muslim.....or anyone of faith.
Perhaps you don't even understand what you're stating, because your comments aren't structured very well. In fact, I don't understand much of what you've typed....
Either way, you need help....FAST!!
DeucePrez 3 years ago
u dont understand anything the koran is made up of fabrication n contradiction and the koran make enemies with the unbelievers itstead of us loving them it only creat hatred for them open ur eyes see the truth read more of the koran u will understand.
levnerbrown 3 years ago
levern:
Who are YOU to tell ME what I understand and what I do not understand?? You don't even know my name, let alone that which I know!
There are no fabrications or contradictions in the Qur'an.
I do, however, think that it is a shame and a sham when people can pick up the holy book and read hate teachings into it when none exists in it!
DeucePrez 3 years ago
i have spoken to soo many muslims brothers n they have understand me. i can show about 10 contrabiction n fabrication ps. but i cant go on show 1.3 billion people all this so if u need to know stick closer to ur religion may God lead u.
levnerbrown 3 years ago
Deuce, so calling people pigs, dogs, swine, kufar is being loving?
kumoja 3 years ago
islamlover32423 posted the following suras:
"Only evil people are unbelievers." - Quran 2:99
"Do not be friends with unbelievers." - Quran 3:28
"Unbelievers are liars." - Quran 9:107
"The Vilest of animals are unbelievers." - Quran 8:55
"Jews are the greediest of all." - Quran 2:96
"Unbelievers are the worst of all beings." - Quran 98:6
"Kill unbelievers whereever you find them." - Quran 4:89
kumoja 3 years ago 2
she is right
mandana0 3 years ago
but we can CLEARLY see n SAW those JEWS with no HEARTS at all attacking kidS & women in Palestine without any reason..does the palestinians spitted on their shoes?Can u give me only ONE reason behind those UNRESPONSIBLE ATTACK?Just ONE..thank you so much..
assalamualaikum..
anonymous4477 4 years ago
um?? how about the hamas missiles being fired at israel every single day?? sounds like a reason.
lostineverland 3 years ago