Jane Fonda's Traitorous Activities and Highly Selective Memory

[mrktjobs]

"Vile and vulgar messages, supportive or otherwise, will not be approved."

Is this true or are you just saying it because it sounds good?

If it is true, then why are you allowing posts that 1) Advocate and encourage the murder of Jane Fonda? and 2) Advocate and encourage the maiming of Jane Fonda?

Your IP address is easy to track. I'm glad I know people at DOJ and have a lot of friends who are attorneys...

[tonyny77]

@mrktjobs -- To the extent that there may be a comment calling for Jane Fonda's murder, I have taken a second look and noticed one such comment thus far: an oversight that's been removed. As for IP addresses, etc., and the rest of your threats of legal action, I feel you're terribly misguided. The purpose of this video, and the variety of approved comments, in NO WAY are meant to organize hatred for or physical harm to Jane Fonda. If you feel the need, please contact your attorney.

[mrktjobs]

Maybe O'Reilly would like to explain how and why he dodged the draft during Vietnam? He does a very good job of talking about the Vietnam period and finding a way to do so without explaining where he was during that time. O'Reilly was of "Prime Age" for the Vietnam Draft. Was he cowardly? Is he still?

[tonyny77]

@mrktjobs -- Well, the core topic is Jane Fonda, actually.  If you have gripes about whether Bill O'Reilly should have served, I think such discussions might be more effective if directed elsewhere.

[thezumgang]

Why doesn't she reside in Vietnam is she like it so much and hates America. Just die Jane.

[thezumgang]

Jane needs to DIE!

[AmericanAztec915]

May that bitch traitor burn in hell!!!!

[fredjackamikoons]

So what happened to that American that was in Afganistan on the side of the Telaban just as the war started? He is in prison, Fonda, in prison.

[fredjackamikoons]

I was there at the same time as Fonda. My unit was destroyed. I was the only survivor. I have 11 heart stints, a triple bypass, two holes in my brain from a grenade, fragments in my legs, Epilepsy, PTSD, and a bullet wound. She said we have to get out of the past. I am wearing the past in my body. So when I carry my past to the grave, I will have to carry my hate for what she had done. It obviously hasn't traumatized her, as it did me.

[logerbad19]

she commited treason,, shes still alive??

[fubleduck]

What do they say sinks ships....Hanoi JANE?!

[Shroommduke]

So what did we learn from the Vietnam War?

Why did we send 60,000 American kids to die there?

Why did we kill Millions of Vietnamease?

Shame on thoses who attack and scorn the peace makers, how many of you scorn the warmakers?

Our good Christians should open their bible to:

Matthew 5:9 ...Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

and:

Proverbs 6:18 ...An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

[tonyny77]

@Shroommduke -- A fair comment, but you might also ask why the north sent 1.2 million North Vietnamese to THEIR deaths. I hope you're not suggesting the south should have just surrendered to the northern invaders. Did the south have no right to defend themselves??? Also, as Vietnam is now enjoying a period of foreign investment and prosperity, do you suppose the Hanoi government should feel RESPONSIBLE for this growth and development, or are they responsible for DELAYING it?

[tonyny77]

@Shroommduke Are you a complete idiot? Ask the North Vietnamese why they killed 80,000 political prisoners after Saigon fell. Ask them why they went into villages and killed people indiscriminately. We went into Vietnam to try and keep part of the country safe that wanted to have the same freedoms that you enjoy and take for granted. You are pretty damn selfish to attack your country for trying to help another country keep their freedom. Jane Fonda should be executed for treason.

[fredjackamikoons]

@tonyny77 I don't believe Jane should be executed. She should have been horibly maimed and blinded and forced to spend the rest of her life in a hospital like so many veterans from Vietnam are still today.

[tonyny77]

@fredjackamikoons -- Thanks for commenting, Fred. The entry you saw that I had posted was actually not mine. You see, usually, as I see an utterly dumb comment, or comments laced with vulgarities, I typically delete them without hesitation. However, in the case of the comment you replied to, I thought the comment was fairly good, except a vulgarity had been included. Thus, instead of deleting it, I added it myself (minus the vulgarity), so now it looks like my own words. Thanx!

[fredjackamikoons]

@tonyny77 I only use vulgarity when I am extremely angry. That is how anyone who knows me can tell that I AM angry. The phrase, "Cussing like an Army Sergeant," never applied to me when I was one. I like to use vulgarity only to stress a point. I thank you, and you are #$&^%^$^ :-) welcome to use my comment minus the ^%$%$# vulgarity.

[fredjackamikoons]

@Shroommduke Then why did the Christian "peace makers" wipe out millions of my ancestors for Christ? Fred Jack Amioons, Chippewa Elder

[fredjackamikoons]

@Shroommduke I guess those who destroyed our culture forgot to read those passages. Fred Jack Amikoons, Chippewa

[bronco2019]

This woman is a traitor and should be sent to live in North Vietnam.

[tonyny77]

@bronco2019 -- An EXCELLENT idea.

[Neoxvase]

@bronco2019 great idea bro if she loves them so much then lets see how they like living with them

[pmasmuth]

"This speaks well of socialism." Is Ms, Fonda working for Obama? And an apology does not erase TRAITORISM !!!! People were hanged, deboweled, beheaded, and quartered for being a traitor in old England. It was considered the worse of all crimes.

[DerPilotMann]

Random, but my friend was killed in Afghanistan two months ago today, we went through all of high school together, and less than two years later he was killed. Only 19 years old... R.I.P Lance Corporal Jordan S. Bastean, thank you for our freedoms!

[tonyny77]

@DerPilotMann -- PilotMan, decent, worthwhile comments on YouTube are almost as rare as blue moons, so especially when I see thoughts expressed in a manner such as yours, I feel compelled to reply. Especially since I'm a veteran and the moderator of an online veterans group, my members and I understand and regret your loss. Life, as I see it, simultaneously "offers" some of the most beautiful and horrible experiences, and we can hardly ever know what awaits us around the corner.

[fredjackamikoons]

@DerPilotMann I am truly sorry to have read of your loss. I know you will always miss him, but when your time comes, I do pray you both will be together again to talk over old times and catch up on things that went on in your life after he died. To your friend, "Hoorah, and Semper Fi, Marine." from an old Army guy.

[DerPilotMann]

People clapping at the deaths of fellow Americans...men who gave their lives somewhere they likely didn't want to be, but when it comes down to it those men would have taken a bullet for any of the people back home. Just despicable... I'm glad that most people at least support the vets these days even if they disagree with the war... Thanks to all the brave men and women who are serving!

[tonyny77]

@DerPilotMann - I'm in total agreement with you. Amazingly, through this comments section, I've come to meet a gentleman with opposing views regarding Ms. Fonda. He has opened my mind to the possibility—the possibility—that the common perceptions about Jane are exaggerated or false. I haven't yet begun to believe his assertions, but by being decent/intelligent in expressing his views, I find myself willing to listen. Decent/intelligent comments, pro or con, can be quite refreshing.

[TheGrayGhosts]

@tonyny77 except that former POW's saw her personally in vietname and remember first hand all of the things she did while hanging out with the North Vietnamese

[fredjackamikoons]

@tonyny77 Believe me, there is nothing false about the accusations. I was in Nam when she was there. During that same time except for me, my entire unit was killed, not by Viet Cong, but by the North Vietnam Regular Army near Doc Phau.

[tonyny77]

@fredjackamikoons -- Thanks for your comments. You can rest assured my beliefs about Jane will not be easily swayed, but seeing as how I'm trying to be objective, I tend to listen when someone makes somewhat credible comments that are halfway intelligent-sounding. I was in Vietnam, too, and I know no one who'd be willing to come to Jane's defense. I feel the evidence overwhelmingly supports my belief that Jane's activism was traitorous! Also [more follows] ...

[tonyny77]

@fredjackamikoons -- Also, if Jane Fonda were half as smart as she thinks she is, she'd be much more humble and respectful toward U.S. military veterans. They and their families sacrifice so, so much so that people opposing the gov't's actions can have a voice without fear of being arrested, unfairly imprisoned, or worse. As many other commentators said, she ought to move to Vietnam if she likes it so much and see how many exercise videos she can sell there.

[fredjackamikoons]

@DerPilotMann Thank you

[allthatrouble]

I will NEVER forget the actions of this disgusting excuse for an american. NEVER!  Thank you for the forum. I hope I haven't been too vile.

[tonyny77]

@allthatrouble -- No, that's not vile. Just straight, to the point, and very correct, of course.

[polisci0586]

Got to love Jane Fonda. This makes me love her even more. Stupid Americans. Give them enough slack and they hang themselves. Vietnam turned out great. Just like Iraq and Afghanistan are doing. The few smart Americans' voices are drowned out by the dumbed down right wing that are controled by Fox "News", military contractors, or corporate interests.

[tonyny77]

@polisci0586 -- As you describe Vietnam as "turning out great," it seems you've overlooked the 3 million who fled following the war's end, and the estimated 500,000 who died at sea, not to mention hundreds of thousands who were tricked and lied to as they were ordered to report to re-education camps for "just a few days," but wound up being imprisoned for several years. I personally know people so-affected. Try to criticize the gov't and see what happens. You're terribly uninformed.

[polisci0586]

@tonyny77 The awkward moment when your criticizer does not realize you were being sarcastic................ * face palm

[tonyny77]

@polisci0586 -- I suppose I might be guilty of not recognizing some modern forms of sarcasm, particularly when it comes to this topic. As I mentioned, I personally know quite a few people whose lives and families were devastated by the communist regime. Even as Vietnam prospers financially today, below the surface, many still suffer where money has more rights than people, and as I mentioned, if one criticizes the gov't, jail is quick and certain.

[polisci0586]

@tonyny77 The sad thing is that this concept seems to be spreading. More often than not, money carries more weight than the general population.

[tonyny77]

@polisci0586 — Yes, you're correct. I also wanted to express my gratitude for posting DECENT comments as yours (and most others) have been. I quickly lose interest in discussing an issue with anyone (whether pro or con) who resorts to dumb or vile comments, which really accomplishes just one thing: it shows the vulgar commenter has no point to make, so he simply cusses up a storm. All intelligent comments, pro or con, are accepted. Dumb/vile comments are immediately deleted. Thanks.

[polisci0586]

@tonyny77 Thank you Sir. Comments as you've discussed have no facts or substance and should be regarded as such.

[verniecekroberts20]

it just makes me sick of what she did to the prisoners in north vietnam instead of helping them she helped the enemy and she calls her self an american.

[dreamdiction]

Bush's UN Ambassador John Bolton says all US Mid-East have been for cheap Oil.

/watch?v=uFbpKKOEnAE

The American Government has murdered 600,000 Muslims in the past ten years for cheap oil? Do you have cheap oil now? No you don't have cheap oil, but the American Military Contractors have the $8 Trillion Dollars they stole from you.

This is what "Occuy Wall Street" is all about and Jane Fonda was 40 years ahead of her time.

[tonyny77]

@dreamdiction - While I didn't hesitate to approve your comment, I feel your figures are grossly exaggerated. I, for one, have always felt the two Gulf Wars (to expel the Iraqis from Kuwait and later to defeat Saddam Hussein) were essential lest the entire region become destabilized by Iraq's tyranny, which undoubtedly would have seen oil prices approaching or exceeding $200/barrel. In effect, this would have held the whole world hostage. Keeping the oil markets free was essential.

[fredjackamikoons]

@dreamdiction You are certainly right about Jane Fonda's vision, because I do feel she had the same belief we all had in Nam. We are angry how she went about dishonoring us who were there. How would veterans feel if she became Osama Ben Lauden's guest or Husein's guest and cheerfully exclaiming how we deserved 9-11. That is how we Vietnam vets feel she had done

[James92802]

/watch?v=QOnG71EgAm4&feature=r­elated

[mistergrin]

I want Hanoi Jane's blood!!!

[DarkprinX2500]

this just proves that americans are in fact warmongers.. and are even despicable enough to defend an illegal war ..

[tonyny77]

@DarkprinX2500 -- As promised, I approve all comments, pro and con (providing the comment complies with common decency standards). Your comment is easy to make, but merely saying it doesn't make it so. If you'd like to further make your point, please offer specific examples supporting your claim. Without such proof, what you've said then becomes an unsubstantiated opinion.  At this point I'd only ask: Why do you suppose millions risked death to flee following the communist take-over?

[tonyny77]

@DarkprinX2500 — Never mind, Darkprin. I withdraw my request for proof supporting you outrageous claims. After seeing other comments you've posted, I see how childish you are. Inviting you to further discuss this issue would undoubtedly result in receiving a wealth of vile, vulgar, useless comments. However, I intend to leave your original comment posted as evidence of your ignorance. Consider moving to China where I'm sure you'll be happy living under communism. Ever heard of Tiananmen Square?

[wq1299]

@DarkprinX2500 Your just a big a traitor as Jane!!

[tonyny77]

@50TNCSA -- Your YouTube channel and the article you link to are interesting, particularly the parts about the 2nd Amendment and the article about criminalizing those that grow their own food. I'll be reading more when I have some spare time. Thanks for your comment.

[gollywan]

I have no respect for that woman-and I can never respect her. Not so much for her unforgivable act of treason to the country that gave her birth but rather for her perpetual lies and her frightfully bad habit of 'Reinventing' herself every time she writes a new book. She is, in my opinion, at best, a parasite. She is all about herself and nothing else.

[beirutvet1983]

I remember when i was kid when she went over their, I can remember my dad pitching a fit over this crazy traitor.

[967evil]

When I was a kid looking out the window of my parents car on the way to my grandparents house there was a big barn along side the road with "Jane Fonda is a Traitor" spray painted on the side. My dad is a Vietnam vet (Binh Thuy 70-71), but I can't remember him telling me what it meant. My history teacher in 10th grade explained to me who she was and what she did, I've hated her ever since.

[MPSecare]

Id like to "Fonda"l her larynx with my hands.

[Rich8951]

The Vietnam War should never have happened. I still think Jane Fonda was crazy for what she did. Just because the war was unjust does not make the Communist Vietnam government innocent.

[ScrapNfight]

Nobody feeds on disinformation more or is more arrogant than PINHEAD Bill O' Reilly. He's a real poor excuse for a human being.

[caporalchef4]

She makes me want to vomit...

[XShynobiX]

My Lai Massacre and Hanoi Jane..

Hmm

[victorchanux]

traitor!!!

[lilmerboy]

Hail Jane Fonda. Vietnam was not a threat to American Freedom. Just because you enlisted in the army it doesn't automatically make you a hero. Vietnam wasn't a threat to us. The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a lie.

[fredjackamikoons]

@lilmerboy You are extremely in error. Vietnam itself wasn't a treat, however we were. At that time, Both the Soviet Union and the Communist People's Republic of China were country jumping, exactly like Germany and Japan had done in WW2. You only need to read your history books. Who do you think supplied North Vietnam? Also Vietnam was a Nato operation just as was Korea, and now Afghanistan.

[marine919]

Traitor

[ebonics4everyone]

Jane Fonda is a communist, but so is Bill O'Reilly. FOX News is the US version of Pravda.

[Usagi393]

@tonyny77 is such claptrap! She sure enjoyed Capitalism when she was making money off her exercise videos, movies, and autobiography books detailing how awful she has been treated for this one “incident!”Anyway, I apologize for my rant. It’s difficult for me to believe she will ever be repentant about her actions, and it infuriates me when people today either don’t know what she did, or thinks she is a national treasure. John Wayne, for example, is a REAL national treasure! :D

[Usagi393]

@tonyny77 themselves popular! And b/c they are so committed to the lie, they inflicted themselves w/ wounds, scars, and physically handicapped some of the soldiers in order to keep up the appearance! That’s what John McCain must have done! He must have disappeared for 5 ½ years, dyed his hair white, lost 50 pounds, & then injured his arms on purpose, just to say he was tortured by the North Vietnamese to make himself a hero! Really, Jane?! >:( Plus her saying, “…it speaks well for Socialism,”

[Usagi393]

@tonyny77 in her voice, she genuinely believes what she is saying, but that energy is strangely absent when she is apologizing for said remarks. She said in a 1973 New York Times interview that POWs are, “military careerists and professional killers" who are "trying to make themselves look self-righteous, but they are war criminals according to the law.” Yes, Jane, it’s so obvious now! A massive group of soldiers are all in a conspiracy to say they were taken hostage and tortured just to make

[Usagi393]

@tonyny77 Bill went EXTREMELY easy on Fonda! I am surprised he treated her with such respect and class! If it was me, I would have gone off on her, so I applaud Bill for showing some mannerly restraint. I have read and seen interviews of her “apologizing” for her actions in North Vietnam, and, to me, they are NOT sincere. She is just saying what she thinks we want to hear from her, not that she believes it herself. You can tell in this video from the emotion and passion she has

[steve41557]

Check out snopes.com for the truth - she accused the POWs as liars for complaining about being tortured. Our US Soldiers protecting her right to be treasonous.

[DeRoquencourt]

She should be deprived of her american nationality and forbidden to enter the US. in France when the Khmers Rouges entered Pnom Phen the leftist weekly magazine "le Nouvel observateur" titled : Cambodia liberated.... blind, stupid, politically correct, dishonnest idiots

[DeRoquencourt]

I met these red fascists in my country , in France and they were, they are the same, biased, dishonnest, violent, antidemocratic. I abhor Jane Fonda, she is responsible for the boat people tragedy, the assassinations of south vietnamese by the thousands, the death of other thousands in reeducation camps. She's empty, pretentious, narrow minded, culture deprived, untolerant

[DeRoquencourt]

She is silly, stupid, full of hatred and mainly dishonnest. Some american people might have been against the war for good reasons like: It has nothing to do with the dominoes theory but it's rather a civil war and we've nothing to do with it. But It's a fact that communists used terror, atrocities to force south vietnamese peasants to support them. And this crazy brainless, biased lady openly supported these criminals .

[musclecary1]

@DeRoquencourt I agree with you. She also has selective memory. She went to VN as a "peace activist" but really was a pro-North Vietnam war monger. Then she said she had temporary insanity when she got caught sitting on an anti-aircraft gun and the picture got circulated. She actually had a lapse of conscience. Men were conscripted when they didn't want to go to Nam. She led a privileged life and was trying to make a name for herself. Of course POWS were tortured, Jane. Stop the excuses.

[ccipollini1984]

Patriotism in its simplest, clearest, and most indubitable meaning is nothing but an instrument for the attainment of the government's ambitious and mercenary aims, and a renunciation of human dignity, common sense, and conscience by the governed, and a slavish submission to those who hold power. That is what is really preached wherever patriotism is championed. Patriotism is slavery."

—Leo Tolstoy, Christianity and Patriotism

[Bluesteve32]

Not fonda Hanoi Jane! Traitor!

[floydfreak63]

My dad was a Vietnam vet and he hated her guts. That's way good enough for me. I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire underneath my house. It's called karma, bitch. Hurry up and die so we can all go out for pizza and beer to celebrate.

[jordache2006]

I'll forgive Jane Fonda for what she did......when the jews forgive Hitler for what he did......

Jane Fonda wasn't just against the Vietnam war......she was and still is an avowed communist and went over to the enemy........and she can't blame it on her ''youth'' either........she was well into her mid 30's at the time

[oxbird1980]

It would seem reasonable to bring Jane Fonda before a court of law on charges of treason. If she is not guilty of these crimes, she would certainly have the means to defend herself and prove her innocence.

If she is guilty, she should be punished. If she is innocent, this would give her an opportunity to clear her name.  Perhaps, she might welcome the opportunity......and the publicity.

[bitmopro]

She should be hung as a traitor. You must not know about the American POW secretly giving her a note to take home to the US military. She then gave the note to the head of the prison camp and pointed out the one who gave it to her. He was subsequently tortured within an inch of his life.

[tonyny77]

@bitmopro ... Make no mistake -- I am NOT a Jane Fonda supporter. After all, I'm the one who posted the video. However, there seems to be credible evidence from reliable sources indicating the the story about the slips of paper being turned over to the North Vietnamese is false. I'd like to hang her, too, but not for the reasons you indicated, which testimony indicates is false. To check, visit the Snopes web site and search for "jane fonda pow" to find the appropriate article.

[franksinclair1]

@tonyny77 That is correct.  There was a chain letter that went around in the late 90's alleging this, and it named POW's who were supposedly victimized by this. The truth is both of them deny this happened and wish whomever was responsible for this would stop.

[RBkidd510]

@bitmopro i do think she is a a radical leftist woman who is completely backwards, don't get me wrong, but i doubt she could ever be this cruel and malicious

[54683NS]

@bitmopro The story about the American POW giving her a note is a complete fabrication. Mary Herschberger in her book on Jane Fonda debunked many of these myths that have been created to smear Fonda, whom I consider a courageous person who took a stand against Washington's criminal war. The fact that American soldiers were sent to die in no way justifies the foreign policy of successive U.S. administrations. So why do you scape goat Jane Fonda instead of going after the policy makers?

[libralady1010]

@54683NS Why scapegoat Jane Fonda?!She gave aid and comfort to the enemy that's why.She isn't nor ever was a statesman.Had the life of a Paris Hilton growing up.Just WHO exactly left her in charge of Vietnam policy anyway.How many names is she responsible for for being on the Vietnam War Memorial Wall? Now she's re-writing history of her treasonous acts.Similar to Rita Hayworth helping Adolph during WWII.She's a toad who didn't have her facts straight.An aging,pitiful face-lifted toad.

[Thorpean]

She never had her facts straight. Traitor!

[ccipollini1984]

Jane Fonda is a noble woman who spoke out against the war crimes of Richard Nixon.

Turn your vitriole on him and his cronies, not her, because 99.9 percent of what is documented about her trip is false. The fact that it is so willingly lapped up is disturbing and screams biased.

[tonyny77]

@ccipollini1984 - Well, Chris, that's an interesting comment. But can you tell us which war crimes committed by Richard Nixon you're referring to? And, I'd also ask this: By your estimation, which side, would you say, committed the most war crimes? North Vietnam, South Vietnam, or the U.S.? Lastly, I'd ask whether you would have preferred to live in South Vietnam prior to the 1973 Peace Accords, or in re-united Vietnam in the years following 1975?

[tonyny77]

@ccipollini1984 - Also, Chris, following the victory by the North, why were a million people imprisoned without charges or trial? Why did over 150,000 die in so-called "re-education camps"? Why did two MILLION boat people risk death at sea to flee their homeland? Were all these people imagining being persecuted, or do you suppose they might have known something that you haven't learned yet? Read up on this FURTHER before you start blaming the U.S. merely for being an imperfect, but noble nation.

[shovel20]

@tonyny77 Yeah i'm not sure why she thought it was smart to go and hang with the north. But I would like to point out the secret bombing's of Laos and Cambodia(Nixon, Kissinger).Many innocent people were affected or killed by US action eg agent orange, My Lai, CIA cover up's, rape. War profit enabled this war to go for as long as it did. This war was never going to be won by US and the goal of Ho chi minh and his people was peace in THEIR OWN COUNTRY. US was standing in the way of that!

[tonyny77]

@shovel20 — Perrin makes some interesting points, some of which I believe to be true. I disagree more than I agree, but all decent comments are approved; disagreeing IS permitted. However, as I mentioned in an earlier comment, the regime that prevailed following the 1975 defeat of the south was especially brutal, which is very well-documented. After '75, although there was no war, there certainly wasn't any peace as two million risked death fleeing in rickety boats over the next ten-plus years.

[ThereAreNoUnionThugs]

@tonyny77

Noam Chomsky does a good analysis on this: Every time there is a disaster we are involved in it is called an "accident"; every time there is a disaster involving an enemy it is intentional or even genocide.

What we do around the world could be described as noble in that we are acting to preserve ourselves and we assume we are noble. But our hegemony is turning others against us and corrupting us instead.

Would Jesus bomb a country for its ideology?

[TheGrayGhosts]

@ThereAreNoUnionThugs Hey buddy, is it wrong to try and help your friend when he is attacked by a bully? Is it wrong to try and help another country that wants freedom when they are being attacked by and brutalized by it's neighbor?

[JesusHoldMyHand1]

@ThereAreNoUnionThugs "Would Jesus bomb a country for its ideology?" Yes, He's going to.

[lonedove1981]

@ccipollini1984 Can you supply links about your 99.9 "documented". She was sitting on a AA weapon smiling and wearing a NV helmet... That is "aid and comfort" to the enemy. Supply your 99.9 facts.

[dao3rd123]

She is a Socialist bitch. She and her Hollywood libs just sit back and take it easy while Americans are still dying. She should have been hung.

[tonyny77]

@dao3rd123 - I wouldn't have used the "b-word," but I applaud your comment for pointing out a perspective that's often overlooked. Not only are Jane's actions and revised version of history despicable, but as you pointed out, she really seemed uninterested in finding a solution to Vietnam's civil war. All she wanted to do is rant and undermine the U.S. effort, ALL while good, freedom-loving Americans were dying so that SHE could continue with her un-constructive, blatantly traitorous agenda.

[koyunbaba73]

Fonda's actions directly caused the deaths of thousands of American soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese. The war had been won by the Americans, the North Vietnamese signed their surrender in Paris and it was spoiled and clueless brats like Fonda that began a media campaign that snatched defeat from the hands of victory. NV generals have commented how much Jane Fonda helped their cause. Where was her compassion for those poor souls who were slaughtered and starved by the communists?

[tonyny77]

@koyunbaba73 ... One of the best comments I've seen. I cannot agree more. I have no problem approving comments I don't agree with -- providing they're half-way intelligent and not indecent -- but YOUR comment, Koyunbaba, might be the best one I've seen. Thank you for your valuable contribution. Others as young as you often don't get it, but YOU definitely do. Thanks again!

[koyunbaba73]

@tonyny77 Thank you, that's very kind. I would also recommend Tom Sowell's "Intellectuals and Society" for a much more detailed explanation about how Jane Fonda's efforts to undermine the Vietnam war proved to be of invaluable assistance to the North Vietnamese. Also for those who are interested, Bruce Herschensohn gave a dynamite 5 minute lecture on the Vietnam war at Prager University. We are all entitled to our opinions, we're not entitled to our own facts. Thanks for providing this video.

[tonyny77]

@koyunbaba73 ... We're very much on the same page. Although I've become acquainted with Thomas Sowell only recently, he makes a very valuable contribution to the dialogue addressing many of America's economic and social ills. As for Dennis Prager, I cannot say enough good things about him. However, it saddens me that Dennis is not America's most popular radio personality. His intellectual background, philosophies, and decency are unmatched, I feel, by any of our other daily media presenters.

[fieldthrasher]

@koyunbaba73 eegads, you can't be serious? The US didn't support a free and independent Vietnam post WW2. The US not only supported the return of colonialism under the French, but were paying for 85% of that war as well. The US carpet bombed, napalmed , and poisoned Vietnam,Laos ,and Cambodia with agent orange, yet somehow Jane Fonda is more morally reprehensible. Revisionism 101

[cmammlj]

Hanoi Jane is a big traitor to her own country !

[TheBeechingAxe]

Jane chose to stick her ass in the faces of North Vietnamese gunners and participated in the shooting down of American airplanes and the murder of US soldiers - You decide what needs to be done.

[GeorgeVreelandHill]

Jane had a right to speak her mind.

She should never go to jail for that.

The very reason we fight wars is for freedom and the right to free speech.

Someone once said ...

"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it."

George Vreeland Hill

[Mandragora84x]

I'm not surprised at all, USA is a country of traitors

[fjbutch]

What a Mole....and a liar ...

[tonyny77]

One viewer left a rather good comment, however, one portion violated my decency standards. Here is that viewer's comment with just one word edited:

"I hate celebrities who speak about politics. These people are so out of touch with the American people. They are not elected. And they were only appointed by themselves. Jane Fonda had a right to oppose the Vietnam War. But she was a traitor [expletive removed] for allowing the Viet Cong to exploit her for propaganda."

[mrbriscoe2001]

never realized ted turner was a socialist.........

[Micaiah2004]

WE were not defeated. It is Hanoi Jane and the gutless protestors who gave support for the enemy and propaganda for the enemies that helped to STALEMATE the WAR. Hanoi Jane is a Traitor. And should be Hanged.

[flogeon]

The North Vietnamese were patriots. They were simply continuing the historical defense of the Vietnamese homeland from foreign invaders. The United States had no right to interfere with a fledgling nation, to prevent them from being autonomous. The Americans were the aggressors there, and Jane Fonda was one of the few who recognized this. If she was a traitor to evil, that makes her good.

[tonyny77]

@flogeon - If you think the North Vietnamese were the patriots, then this leaves me wondering: Why were hundreds of thousands of South Viets forcibly "re-educated"? Why did the new gov't abandon their collective-based, communist-style economy for a market-based economy? If the patriots won and their human rights record so good, why would the World Trade Organization refuse to admit Vietnam until 2007? And why did a million Vietnamese risk their lives to flee the country in boats? Why, please?

[Bryp1996]

@flogeon Really the americans were the agressors? Were not the ones who would run whole divisions through the dmz and out of the northern territory. How were we the agressors if we never launched one single ground operation in North Vietnam?

[babybirdhome]

As far as I can tell she's not trying to rewrite history in those comments on Larry King Live. What led me to looking for videos on this was googling 'hanoi jane' and 'snopes' and if you read all about those emails that have been circulating since 1999 about what she allegedly did, it seems obvious to me that that's what she's calling a myth. It seems logical to me. I can't say I defend what she did or said back then, but I can accept it as the result of exercising her freedom of speech.

[tonyny77]

@babybirdhome A reasonable, well-made point. I've wished that the segment offered by O'Reilly didn't end so abruptly. In the interest of fairness, I've been looking for a more-complete version of the interview between Larry King and Jane, but without success. Seeing as how I, myself, am a Vietnam veteran, it's not easy to seemingly be defending Fonda; I'm not. But I very-much prefer to be objective, fair, and not just pile-on without knowing all the facts. Your comment is VERY MUCH appreciated.

[Psychedalien]

O'Reilly is such a manipulator!!!

[seirbeach]

The insufferable, condescending nature of the hollywood gliterati is both nauseating and deplorable. She was very, very stupid. The north vietnamese fought an asymetric campaign and won because of their sheer bloody minded ruthlessness, (aka the Red army against Von Paulus in Stalingrad). However a lot of ordinary decent, non pot smoking americans were utterly opposed to the war as well. They were no less right because ego centric publicity seeking morons pulled useless photo oportunities.

[hal99000]

On the subject of traitorous activities during the Vietnam war, I recommend "The Best Enemy Money Can Buy" by Antony C. Sutton

[thegrim418]

i praise you for this video. i hate how everything we do is censored. everything we say has to be picked for us and we only here what we are told to hear. ive tried to leave three comments and all were pended unapproved on every video. all of them about how fonda was scum. ive seen three videos in as many minutes praising how fonda was "an icon". the only icon she should be is the result of corruption in media and politics

[tonyny77]

@thegrim418-You raise a good point. I screen comments, too, but only because YouTube is overwhelmed with highly inappropriate comments by millions of "mental children." I'll approve comments that agree AND disagree, providing they offer anything decent and intelligent. If they just want to curse Fonda or me, that accomplishes no good at all ... None! It only proves the commenter has strong opinions, but he can't even find a way to support his view. But your comment was acceptable.

[ChuckinCho]

My uncle was a crew chief on a Huey doing evacs during Jane's little trip in Vietnam. His chopper crashed and he and door gunner were captured by NVA troops, hung from a tree then flayed alive.

To this day I cannot believe the drivel that comes out of her mouth. Treated fairly? Starving, beating, necklacing, beheading and skinning are soldiers alive is fair?

[jerryworks]

I saw a comment above stating, "She was young and she did a dumb thing." She was no younger than the live of our military who's torture and death was cause by her treasonous action. To this day she says it is a myth created by the right.

[tonyny77]

@jerryworks ... Ah, yes ... An EXCELLENT point. Thank you! I certainly would have approved your comment whether you agreed the point of my video or not, but I thought the perspective you noted was worth saying thanks for. By the way, I approve comments that are pro AND con, but not if the comment is vile, despicable, or totally, totally dumb. Yours was excellent, though. Thanks again, Jerry.

[rscmrcmd]

O'Reilly? O'Lady is more like it. What kind of man is this going after Jane Fonda? She has more courage than he can ever dream of possessing. She was young and she did a dumb thing. It will never cancel the great, brave,thoughtful, caring and patriotic work she did opposing the war. She could've just been some non caring Hollywood actress. She chose to wake herself up and get to work. She may have stumbled along the way but we believe in redemption in this society. Right? or am I wrong?

[tonyny77]

@rscmrcmd ... A fair, intelligently-written comment, but I whole-heartedly disagree. As stated in the description accompanying my video, not only is her memory rather selective, but Ms. Fonda seems to be trying to revise her well-documented involvement not just in efforts to end the war, but her actions and rhetoric of that time seem to be quite pro-North Vietnam. I could be wrong, but I sense you're anti-O'Reilly, too. As stated, I could be wrong, but could this be affecting your views of her?

[rscmrcmd]

@tonyny77 She's proud of her efforts to stop the war. She was young, spirited and motivated by concern for our troops who were being lied to and by what everyone knew was happening to civilians in Viet Nam. She hurt people who in hindsight she realized were victims as well. Her apologies have always come from a sincere regret for what she did and a frustration that she can't change the past. O'Reilly's a muckraker. Pundits don't dig into a woman's past, they're too busy with today.

[mtinch7]

@rscmrcmd Concern for our troops? Get your fucking facts straight, she cost several POWs their lives when they were just trying to let their families know that they were alive. She lied to Americans when she made it look like the POWs were being treated well. She should have seen the chair 40 years ago.

[DaDa2Phlux]

For so many sons of Americans families that went -dutifully ,courageously,selflessly...but never returned .This vile serpent should have never been allowed to set foot on our soil again .

[DaDa2Phlux]

enjoining members of the U.S. armed forces to commit mutinies in the field during a conflict ? While Soviet agents were helping to break torture captured American servicemen? Past treason - that is evil.

[yankeebelle54]

How can anyone so clueless still breath and infest this planet?

[tonyny77]

@yankeebelle54 ... That's certainly a good question. I suppose you didn't expect a response because the answer is so obvious, but just the same, I think it's worth saying. Either Ms. Fonda is suffering from dementia, or she's indeed engaged in selecting only the portions of her past that she chooses to remember. That's a fancy way of saying "she's lying." And that raises yet another question: With so much evidence of her dishonesty, why would she try? Perhaps due to being unabashedly arrogant.

[yankeebelle54]

@tonyny77 Thank you for responding and well said.  Here's what i see-hand caught in cookie jar-she drops the cookie but her fingerprints are still all over it.

[loufalce]

I`ll forgive Jane Fonda when the Jews forgive Hitler.

[ciscokid998]

Hanoi Jane, useful Idiot for the communist, sure could've used a crystal ball at the time, because the outcome of the war, from those peace loving commies resulted in the genocide of 3 million innocent civilians by Pol Pot i.e. Khmer Rouge.

[MrRocmike3]

I remember her visit to Vietnam. I was also in North Vietnam. The difference is that I was busy putting holes in a Soviet-supplied Surface to Air Missile from a klick away as a Marine 8541 Scout Sniper. Later that day, I was privileged to take out a Chinese provided APC. What a pity that Hanoi Jane wasn't in it when it exploded.

[JockoJr]

@MrRocmike3 I want to put this quote on my FB profile. I love it!

[JockoJr]

@MrRocmike3 thanks for your service! That's awesome

[abukamoon]

These are the people who are in control in Washington today. It started with the Clintons. These are the anti-American radicals of the Sixties. Now, these misfits are in power. They call anyone who opposes their anti-American agenda "potential terrorists". Well, they can go to hell!

[tonyny77]

@abukamoon -- You know, that's a pretty good assessment, I'd say. I've had the same perspective you have regarding the new generation's political agenda the Clinton administration tried to make the new American "norm." Thanks for your insight.

[Scootersnmore]

Just a Traitor , Does not care about our people who Served , Died and lost there loved ones . War is sad , ugly. But to speak Like this against our country in a Communist fashion Should Be shot for teason . They would put here out of her misery in other countries . Maybe she should live over there . I served In US Navy aboard Carriers late 80 early 90's We are here to Show Force and Keep peace. GO US ARMED FORCES Support our troops FONDA STICK IT In Obama He'sYour BUDDY. Sidewinder

[kuladeeluxe]

And to think about all the fancy food she has eaten all these years.

[wthjrtx1]

Make no mistake. She was able to get away with her rhetoric ,Because of her father.

She was and is a Hollywood spoiled brat. She did help draw a line in the sand for us tho.  I'm glad she did what she did. We have contrast and depth to consider what morons we consider leaders!

[tonyny77]

@wthjrtx1 ... Yes, indeed. An excellent, excellent point. Thank you for your comment.

[tonyny77]

@libralady1010 ... This is not exactly the kind of comment I'd normally approve. The line between intelligent, civil contributions vs. empty, angry name-calling has been crossed, but just barely, in my view. Therefore I allowed the comment. Names do little but provoke anger. Being descriptive and contributing to possible solutions are much preferred. But we're talking about more than a mere political disagreement, here. The topic is Jane Fonda, so, well, I suppose I'll let it go this time.

[libralady1010]

@tonyny77 I appreciate you letting this be posted. I suppose mainly it's because my husband &brother were in Vietnam.They were both college graduates and the fact THIS COUNTRY has been unbelievably good to her there lots of people who FORGET that 58,000+ died in Vietnam.My husband had a Masters'Degree; already working when he was drafted.My brother was 23. My husband shared an apt., w/3 other guys and he was only one to come home.Took him years to speak @ it.I appreciate-again-your posting clip.

[tonyny77]

@libralady1010 - Considering the circumstances, I'm glad I paused and deliberated for a moment instead of hastily disallowing your original comment. Your anger is understandable AND justified, of course. I'm a Vietnam veteran myself, so I absolutely understand. I came home, but as you said, many didn't. Wondering what your husband endured makes me pause. What I'm thinking now isn't appropriate to mention here. I'll just say I'm happy your husband came home. God bless all those who serve!

[mannythedrummer]

She is disgusting and should have been arrested for treason - She cost us American lives and I will never forgive or forget that - I have never seen a movie or TV show with her in it and would not start now - I did not view this as I have no interest in hearing her one sided drivel. To think that she will be honored as one of the "Top 40 Women" is a joke and an insult. She needs to be in a prison camp.

[tonyny77]

@mannythedrummer ... Well, Manny, I certainly can't disagree with you. My feelings are virtually the same. I just wanted to add: After the public apologies she offered for some of her anti-American activities from the '60s and '70s, I began to think perhaps I could soften my attitude toward her a bit. Now, though ... Now that I see she's in the re-writing history business and trying to deny what she did, I dislike her more than ever. That's what the video shows. I hope you'll view it.

[sslayerr]

the enemy within is always the most dangerous one.

no matter what jane, you never turn on your own. if youre against the war nobody objects to people trying to stop it, but when you start celebrating our B-52s getting shot down you become more than just a antiwar activist.

i dont have the words to describe you. luckily we dont many of your kind today in the media. dont get me wrong, there are more of them then ever but they keep quiet.

[HeavensDemon966]

Does Jane Fonda actually have the guts to live in America after her betrayal of our country?

[Martinpara86]

I think she defo crossed the line! And yes she should have faced charges

[NinjaGhostScorpion]

There are few things I can't forgive. Jane Fonda slandering my godfather and many others who fought in the Vietnam War, many of whom lost their lives, I refuse to ever forgive!

[BobReidy]

She should have been tried for treason.She should be in jail.

[armand1280]

@BobReidy No, treason is a captial offense.

[Lav0ndyss]

@BobReidy Good idea man ..what about ..I dont know ...Abu Ghraib? .She is probably only non hypokritical american ..she deserve It!

[thegrim418]

@BobReidy she should be dead. the only two punishments that fit treason are either execution or deportation to the country they praise as higher than her own

[tonyny77]

@thegrim418 -- Sorry for missing your comment, Bob. My YouTube In Box didn't indicate your comment was pending - Sorry. But you make an excellent point. For what she did, MANY red-blooded Americans feel a very harsh punishment would have been appropriate. Death? Well, perhaps. But I also like your other idea: If she liked North Vietnam so damned much, then the U.S. should have sent her on a one-way, life-long vacation to the North to see how many exercise videos she'd be able to sell THERE.