What you see on YouTube is just a summary. We have spent months experimenting and the cct board was actually assembled by Bob him self. We have 12 litres per min of Hydroxy gas. Years ago we had cells producing more and it will only run a small single cylinder engine and poorly at that. However, it is a good catalyst with fuel but cell set up is very expensive and is it worth it? Much better ways of achieving a better result.
@joefanatics Catalysis is the change in rate of a chemical reaction due to the participation of a substance called a catalyst. Unlike other reagents that participate in the chemical reaction, a catalyst is not consumed by the reaction itself therefore the hydrogen and oxygen burned inside an engines cylinders cannot be a catalyst.
Hi Joefanatics, I had been experienced Bob 101 Cell test for several years and not luck to reach the breaking point I have never hit the resonant point. I found out from my G-board the lower frequency 10.7K causing full current flow 19A, the 22.4K is about 15A and the higher frequency 42.7K is just 200~300 mA. What is your result? Did you successfully replicated yours experience? I am looking to hear your feedback. Peace Mark
First off they did not condition the plates correctly , you have to get 150% to 200% efficiency with the cell before proceeding, and toroid technology not studied.
Bob actually talked to the gentlemen on the phone, he said he was so rude and down playing that he hung up on him. Bob said I will not work with jerks. They have to learn to follow instructions exactly.
H2 is very low density and the figure bandied around to run a large car engine is 500 lt / min. Keep in mind one litre of liquid lpg gives off heaps of gas. Can't remember off hand. One litre of water gives about 1800 litres of gas. However the magic we are looking for is enriched H2 wit Deuterium and then a small amount of gas will run a car. This is the holy grail we all want. S Horvath did this back in 1977 He told me it would cost about $1500 for a conversion
500? HA it does not take 500 liters per min of air gas to run a car. if that was the case propane should not be running tow motors and the such. from what i see in that sloppy set up is that hydro needs to be under some kind of pressure just like propane to run a car, please guys check up on your homework before posting a bucket of water with a hose running in it!!
The bucket is to get a rough idea of the litres per min. Free flowing is the max gas produced. As the cell builds pressure the rate of production will decrease. Bobs design is not suitable for pressure. It is bad design all round and as stated the electronic board was not a functional design We put a lot of work into this.
@joefanatics the only thing i can say about the set up you have there is something is missing. bob said that when he was running his boats off this hyro gas was that the carbs were mod to accept the gas, so saying so is that hydry gas has to run in a closed system, it already has the oxy in it, you need very little hydro to burn, i think you burned up something when the spark happened
Hi That is the trouble, to this point in time I do not know of anyone who has successfully run a car totally on the BB cell. As far as I know BB has not posted any demo video showing such a demo and we have had no indication that the frequency system he designed did anything special. We wish that it did. W challenge anyone who has had success to put up as that would assist us greatly. Thanks
@joefanatics Thanks for reply, i think those who can run their car on water, they wouldn't come in the media, as we all know what happen to Stanley meyer's. but do you think its worth to follow BB. I don't think Daniel dingle is messing around with electronics like BB. Dingle is running since 1970's. What do you think?
I know the feeling "only too well" to follow up on someone work/else claim do everything you can and not being able to produce the results like the did! In this case (Bob Boyce)
As you know the either his circuit was real or fake.
If it was a real let him to verify the data with public so we can all do it.
Or else confess that was not true, jut like Mylo did it, on his PMM (fake motor)
@mksboysal Any one who has studied Tesla's HF current patents will know that Boyce's circuit is real. The required components and configuration of Boyces and Stan Meyers circuits contain the elements from Tesla's HF current patents. Go study those patents and you'll come back to this with a more solid understanding of what's happening and that his circuit is legitimate. Personally, I'm shifting towards spark gap based oscillators as they can handle higher voltage and frequency better.
The morons in this video can barely even lock a trace on the scope. Don't trust a friggin' word they say! The guy probably blew out half the circuit when he sparked that short in the first 25 seconds of the vid! Give me a break!!! What kind of crap signal generator are you doofs using to make those square waves anyway??? They look like crap!! These guys are a couple of ametures and don't have a clue what they're supposed to be doing!
Mr know it all, Please furnish us with your experimental results using Bobs circuit board. He actually built the board we were using. Many hours of experiments were done off Camera and every detail checked and carried out as per his instructions. So far no one has showed a successful resonant board working producing extra ordinary gas. Don't you think that strange?? Of course you have done that and put in the time as we have, but where are your results????? Moron!!!!
Funny how not one single person has shown a working system. The electronics is flawed and needs revamping which may have been done by the south Africans. Looks promising. We never give up. We are moving on to designs that may have some chance of success. We spent $3000. How much have you spent??? We look forward to someone proving us wrong The cct is just not a working cct. Please prove it if you can Cheers ian
Speak for yourselves. don't act like $3000 is such a huge amount of money. And just because you spent money doesn't mean you know how to apply information correctly. I also like how you don't show a single schematic in this entire video. That way nobody can tell if you're actually replicating the Boyce circuit or just filming a pile junk electronics. Even if the Boyce Circuit were fake, you guys are in no way qualified to make that determination. You guys are full of crap.
I totally agree. Their technical skills are a damn joke!!! If I made a spark like that from touching the wrong wire I'd stop everything and recheck every component before restarting. This guy just says "naaaaa everything's fine, ...don't worry."
I have heard so many of you posting that 'you have don it' then why can not you show us the result, many are criticising us that have not even got one of these 101 cell, or even one of these boards.
I will stand to be corrected and apologise if I hurt your feelings, but put up or shut up.
Bob has also in a post some where has said, the cell must be run at 150volts, and it should be drawing at that stage a round 200milamps, this is what we got, has he had stated.
The PWM3F was then 'switched on' this was then supposed to 'do the rest'. It did not.
So we asked Bob to either show us a demonstration of his, or for some one else to show us theirs. How ever it had to be a 101 cell as described, and the PWM3F, thats what we had, and he said that it would work.
That was not the point of the 'challenge', nor was it to try and discredit Bob, We just wanted Bob's either him self or some one else that successfully had run the 101 cell with the PWM3F board, and got the results that were claimed by Bob.
I posed information of our coil and ALL the information. Impendence, resistance, Inductance.
And much more, We tried, and we posted what we did, it seems that no one else wants to or CAN NOT.
On photobucket you can view the set up of the board and the outputs 'as it was being done'.
It was the last set up that was used on the cell. All we did was to show what we had, and yes were followed all the instruction that were 'available' a lot more had to be got from searching
Bob's Comments for some old posts, there was even a comment of Bob's some where, saying that he did not like using the timers and that he should have used some other one.
With out making a long story, the Cell was conditioned as per the information in the D9,
A long process, it was tested for brute force as well, but over the 204volts the current would rise sharply and with it the temperature.
The frequencies were correctly set , in the video I was trying to concentrate on what I was doing, and trying to answer questions at the same time so if you heard the wrong frequencies then that was due to the circumstances.
joefanatics im not here to discredit you of your findings.After all you didnt lie you just posted what you found out and was being honest. I would really like to know what your electrolite was and percent,what kind and how pure is the water?What were the actual frequencies that you used? Volts,amps,gauge of wires used on the torid. I would really like to here back from you as I have 80% of the components for building the complete system and would like very much to hear back from you,thanks
According to the D9. NaOh @ 10% per D9. 12 ltr / min as brute force. The point of the exercise is to test the frequency set up. One of our boards was actually built by Bob and I built a replica. The fundamental design was flawed. So far we have not found a successful replication. See Extraordinary Science Conference. dvd by Moray B King. I think he is hitting the nail on the head. Study that. We simply challenge Bob to demonstrate a cell with his electronics running an engine.
i own a 101 and on brute force it does very well. I like the 60 plate unit better but I know bobs not gonna put something out he hasn't made work himself. There are only 4-5 people who have the expertise for resonance drive and as far as i know they have all had sucess with it. 9LPM brute force at 5 amps 187 volts is enough production for me. If you follow his instructions to the letter you should be getting the same. I know others are Good luck with your project Gentleman have a blessed day.
I'll tell you how good a person Bob Boyce is. I had surgery and out of hundreds of people I know and have worked with on hydrogen he was one of three who called too see how I was doing. I will vouch he is as honest as they come. I too didn't believe in bobs methods when I started but I was wrong. Bobs really influenced my work in many ways and I respect the heck out of him and his knowledge in this field is immense almost all of the top builders have consulted bob at one time or another.
You know every time you buy an electronic the next day it's outdated so I would expect regular changes too D9 your box is an old design the internal slot material has been revised too the top of the boxes along time ago. There may be valid arguments to be made it's not my design but the brute force drive of these boxes still outperforms most cells out there I'd say better than 95 percent. It would take hundreds of hours and videos too begin to debunk these cells and make a valid argument.
what your trying to say is that the boyce boxes don't work at all and thats just not the case. They do make allot of gas even just brute force they make allot of gas. I think thats been proven my suggestion would be to get your cell working with standard drive and then try the resonance drive cause you just cannot make a credible argument if you aren't even getting the regular drive running correctly then move too resonance. Your attacking a good honest person who helps so many people freely.
We sought assistance earlier and still looking for a credible replication....Maybe you can guide us??? but it seems clear that the system is a no go. If you know so much then please direct me to the data sheet of a fully working system and why does the D9 change every five minutes when the boyce system has been out for years?
And I suppose you have a car running on a bob boyce cell? We built it according to the D9 doc and don't you think it strange that there is no one who has the frequency system working. If so please direct me to the data on such a project. Even Bob has no footage or data that is anything special. Very sad...
waight a minute thats not even a boyce box let me get this straight your bashing a desighn and you were too cheap to buy a properly built boyce box lol this is hillarious
If I was bob I wouldn't assist on this I'd let ya choke on the material for bashing him it's obvious either your electrolyte level is too high or too low and it's obvious you did not condition the cell and should not be useing resonance coils with your safety procedures.
I think you are confused. The information Bob has revealed to a few individuals has to do with the hex controller. He has never withheld information from the public on the PWM. And he posted on at least 2 forums (hydroxy & workingwatercar) info about the IC problem at the highest frequency (42.8 kHz). The IC made by one mfgr. failed to meet specs, thus many were unable to get it to work properly. Mine works fine once Bob gave me the same IC made by a different company.
I'm surprised that you, a complete stranger, seem to know more about what I have than I do. As far as Bob wanting a visit, he welcomes friends with open arms but certainly does not want visitors who are disrespectful and make statements about him that are false. I suspect that you also would not befriend those who disrespect you or make false accusations. He's divulged that info to a few individuals, and as far as I know, they have never leaked it to the public.
The original 'The Cell' from Premelters used conditioned plates and their first installation in a Ford F-150 got around 117% improvement in mileage consistently. When they changed from conditioned plates to electropolished plates, against Bob's advice, they began to have problems with diminished gas output. I don't know if they have currently solved the problem.
The Cell with old AND new plates are both working perfectly on all vehicles We install them on, including the F150.
As far as the resonance drive....we had Bob Boyce here for over a year, and HE couldn't get his resonance drive working...Hmm. When we confronted him with this fact, in front of many witnesses, he was gone the next day (or I should say in the middle of the night) and now he tries to discredit us...once again WHY??
At least Bob Boyce isn't trying to trademark the name "Bob Boyce" like you, Mr. Potchen, attempted!
(Yes, Bob Potchen just tried to Trademark "Bob Boyce" for exclusive use by "The Cell Inc". That tells you something about how trustworthy he is!)
Also, you claimed that you succeeded in getting resonance for 18 seconds, but you couldn't keep it going. You seem to be changing your story as it fits your whimsy.
Ok How much gas is your unit putting out. How did you measure gas volume? Volts and Amps? and have you got the frequency gene working producing gas? As far as I know NON one has the frequency unit working and even if you have more gas it will cook the unit any way so it is of no use in that mode. The whole point of the exercise is to get the frequencies doing the work and it does not! Ian
thanks for info. bob refers to the cell "under resonance"... did you dump lots of KOH in it? say 120 degrees shift the 2 higher frequencies advanced from the lowest frequency? think if the highest frequency was cleaned up it would help the cause? hex controller ? boyce isnt replicated ever....so is therefore a pinochio
There is currently no video on U-tube or on the internet of Bob Boyce gizmo actually working. I had planned to start buying the items to make the unit in the fall, however I am now having my doubts. Come on people, if any one has a working unit out there please put it on the internet! (I wonder if the government is taking off all videos of a working unit??? I doubt that) But anything is posiable.
Hi We spent $3000 on this to find it is totally flawed in all design features so I hope we have saved you some time and money. Some sort of hybrid HOH and Joe Cell may be the way to go. You need the 'Quality gas' or 'Energy field or frequency'. We just can't make enough of H2 to run a car. 500Litres per min is the figure I believe but when you get into the high energy gas a car can be run on very little. I am putting my efforts in this direction and revisiting the Archie Blue cell. Cheers Ian
I see some major flaws in your video. First of all the 3 frequencies should be 10.7 Hz, 21.4 Hz, & 42.8 Hz (not 48.2 Hz as you state in the video). Bob's hex controller is proprietary and will not be released to any group. You haven't described the procedures used in the construction of your electrolyzer and for it to work properly the instructions must be followed carefully. And finally, just because you can't get your unit to work does not mean that the design is flawed. Maybe its you.
Maybe when the people succeed in getting it working, they realize that it may not be in their best interest to let everybody know!
There are manufacturing license agreements, as well as a military contract in the mix. If I you got it working, would you tell everybody how you did it, or see if you could get some money out of it first? ;)
What makes no sense to me is how Bob can understand this science yet cant properly release a 555 circuit to the public that doesnt have the same old ghost in the circuit . And he realized that like 1 year after ... Once everybody had already purchased his first version and told him about it ...His alternator story also makes no sense @ all . Its its so hard to tune to see some added results than how could ''pure luck'' make it happen ... Odds are not in his favor .
Hi We do have all the figures but it was about 12 litres per min. Around 80% faraday. I think we got to90 at one stage. However that does not help much. The unit would melt down if left on. Ian
How about the moron who voted me down post a response as to why my comment is invalid? Probably because IT IS VALID. These guys haven't demonstrated one of the steps in the claimed process so why should this "replication" be viewed as a replication?
Hi Can you tell us who voted you down and where?? What is the claimed step you refer to?? Who has achieved over faraday and where are the figures? ian
Have you achieved over Faraday's in brute force mode after conditioning the plates and prior to testing the toroid? What is the rate of production in brute force mode?
Also , everybody should know that the information passed on by peswiki is most of the time 100% disinformation , they overhype constantly and claim things to be functionnal when they are not . Yes , TheCell is most likely all that bob boyce has achieved
Bob Boyce is not involved with The Cell anymore. They tried to make it cheaper resulting in it being crappy, and he left. Now they are claiming he wasn't involved in the design and trying to claim he is full of it, at the same time they are trying to Trademark the name "Bob Boyce"...
I`m still skeptic about the ``way Bob first discovered this effect... broken diode was it ... So e first saw this effect by pure luck yet , you you probably tried countless possibilities and saw nothing ... something if really fishy with Bob`s story .
Or maybe they just missed something like having the right amount of KoH!
The diode blowing didn't create resonance. It allowed the Catalytic reaction creating Mono-atomic H, which then led him through a series of research steps improving the Mono-H output, and eventually led to resonance.
I am getting more gas from a 13 plate cell than you are the construction on your cell is flawed, see specs in Patrick j Kelly s book.
fishthorn1 1 month ago
"a secret research installation"... lol
b101aa2 9 months ago
I am not sure what these guys are up to but it seems a classic video of misinformation.
rblackwell2771 10 months ago
Hi,
was just wondering if you tested his toroid and what the results were..
thanks
thewonn 1 year ago
What you see on YouTube is just a summary. We have spent months experimenting and the cct board was actually assembled by Bob him self. We have 12 litres per min of Hydroxy gas. Years ago we had cells producing more and it will only run a small single cylinder engine and poorly at that. However, it is a good catalyst with fuel but cell set up is very expensive and is it worth it? Much better ways of achieving a better result.
joefanatics 1 year ago
@joefanatics Catalysis is the change in rate of a chemical reaction due to the participation of a substance called a catalyst. Unlike other reagents that participate in the chemical reaction, a catalyst is not consumed by the reaction itself therefore the hydrogen and oxygen burned inside an engines cylinders cannot be a catalyst.
ke4uyp 1 year ago
@joefanatics regardless of the system's efficiency you should be able to run an engine on HHO. 3l/min for 1 HP was determined to be normal.
myztic123 1 year ago
Hi Joefanatics, I had been experienced Bob 101 Cell test for several years and not luck to reach the breaking point I have never hit the resonant point. I found out from my G-board the lower frequency 10.7K causing full current flow 19A, the 22.4K is about 15A and the higher frequency 42.7K is just 200~300 mA. What is your result? Did you successfully replicated yours experience? I am looking to hear your feedback. Peace Mark
markgogo35 1 year ago
First off they did not condition the plates correctly , you have to get 150% to 200% efficiency with the cell before proceeding, and toroid technology not studied.
Bob actually talked to the gentlemen on the phone, he said he was so rude and down playing that he hung up on him. Bob said I will not work with jerks. They have to learn to follow instructions exactly.
fishthorn1 1 month ago
H2 is very low density and the figure bandied around to run a large car engine is 500 lt / min. Keep in mind one litre of liquid lpg gives off heaps of gas. Can't remember off hand. One litre of water gives about 1800 litres of gas. However the magic we are looking for is enriched H2 wit Deuterium and then a small amount of gas will run a car. This is the holy grail we all want. S Horvath did this back in 1977 He told me it would cost about $1500 for a conversion
joefanatics 1 year ago
500? HA it does not take 500 liters per min of air gas to run a car. if that was the case propane should not be running tow motors and the such. from what i see in that sloppy set up is that hydro needs to be under some kind of pressure just like propane to run a car, please guys check up on your homework before posting a bucket of water with a hose running in it!!
chuckluvs35 1 year ago
The bucket is to get a rough idea of the litres per min. Free flowing is the max gas produced. As the cell builds pressure the rate of production will decrease. Bobs design is not suitable for pressure. It is bad design all round and as stated the electronic board was not a functional design We put a lot of work into this.
joefanatics 1 year ago
@joefanatics the only thing i can say about the set up you have there is something is missing. bob said that when he was running his boats off this hyro gas was that the carbs were mod to accept the gas, so saying so is that hydry gas has to run in a closed system, it already has the oxy in it, you need very little hydro to burn, i think you burned up something when the spark happened
chuckluvs35 1 year ago
Hey guys, i want to know bob boyce cell can run a car on water or not ? or its just another booster
amanghotra1982 1 year ago
Hi That is the trouble, to this point in time I do not know of anyone who has successfully run a car totally on the BB cell. As far as I know BB has not posted any demo video showing such a demo and we have had no indication that the frequency system he designed did anything special. We wish that it did. W challenge anyone who has had success to put up as that would assist us greatly. Thanks
joefanatics 1 year ago
@joefanatics Thanks for reply, i think those who can run their car on water, they wouldn't come in the media, as we all know what happen to Stanley meyer's. but do you think its worth to follow BB. I don't think Daniel dingle is messing around with electronics like BB. Dingle is running since 1970's. What do you think?
amanghotra1982 1 year ago
these men are a joke, couldnt figure out a flashlight!
homebuiltindoorplane 1 year ago
Great job gentlemen,
I know the feeling "only too well" to follow up on someone work/else claim do everything you can and not being able to produce the results like the did! In this case (Bob Boyce)
As you know the either his circuit was real or fake.
If it was a real let him to verify the data with public so we can all do it.
Or else confess that was not true, jut like Mylo did it, on his PMM (fake motor)
mksboysal 1 year ago
@mksboysal Any one who has studied Tesla's HF current patents will know that Boyce's circuit is real. The required components and configuration of Boyces and Stan Meyers circuits contain the elements from Tesla's HF current patents. Go study those patents and you'll come back to this with a more solid understanding of what's happening and that his circuit is legitimate. Personally, I'm shifting towards spark gap based oscillators as they can handle higher voltage and frequency better.
crackahcrackah 1 year ago
How rude ! Need a lesson in manners first.
problemsolver4u 1 year ago
The morons in this video can barely even lock a trace on the scope. Don't trust a friggin' word they say! The guy probably blew out half the circuit when he sparked that short in the first 25 seconds of the vid! Give me a break!!! What kind of crap signal generator are you doofs using to make those square waves anyway??? They look like crap!! These guys are a couple of ametures and don't have a clue what they're supposed to be doing!
m1ndcontroller 2 years ago
Mr know it all, Please furnish us with your experimental results using Bobs circuit board. He actually built the board we were using. Many hours of experiments were done off Camera and every detail checked and carried out as per his instructions. So far no one has showed a successful resonant board working producing extra ordinary gas. Don't you think that strange?? Of course you have done that and put in the time as we have, but where are your results????? Moron!!!!
joefanatics 2 years ago
these guy are sad, frustrated so they give up truly pathetic.
neelonghunglow 2 years ago
Funny how not one single person has shown a working system. The electronics is flawed and needs revamping which may have been done by the south Africans. Looks promising. We never give up. We are moving on to designs that may have some chance of success. We spent $3000. How much have you spent??? We look forward to someone proving us wrong The cct is just not a working cct. Please prove it if you can Cheers ian
joefanatics 2 years ago
Speak for yourselves. don't act like $3000 is such a huge amount of money. And just because you spent money doesn't mean you know how to apply information correctly. I also like how you don't show a single schematic in this entire video. That way nobody can tell if you're actually replicating the Boyce circuit or just filming a pile junk electronics. Even if the Boyce Circuit were fake, you guys are in no way qualified to make that determination. You guys are full of crap.
m1ndcontroller 2 years ago
I totally agree. Their technical skills are a damn joke!!! If I made a spark like that from touching the wrong wire I'd stop everything and recheck every component before restarting. This guy just says "naaaaa everything's fine, ...don't worry."
Ridiculous!!! These guys suck!!!
m1ndcontroller 2 years ago
you are certainly low grade material
joefanatics 2 years ago
Hi
As for those that have started to build a 101 cell and have committed them selves to it, we will help a genuine call for help if we can.
aussepom
aussepom 2 years ago
I have heard so many of you posting that 'you have don it' then why can not you show us the result, many are criticising us that have not even got one of these 101 cell, or even one of these boards.
I will stand to be corrected and apologise if I hurt your feelings, but put up or shut up.
aussepom
aussepom 2 years ago
Bob has also in a post some where has said, the cell must be run at 150volts, and it should be drawing at that stage a round 200milamps, this is what we got, has he had stated.
The PWM3F was then 'switched on' this was then supposed to 'do the rest'. It did not.
So we asked Bob to either show us a demonstration of his, or for some one else to show us theirs. How ever it had to be a 101 cell as described, and the PWM3F, thats what we had, and he said that it would work.
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aussepom 2 years ago
That was not the point of the 'challenge', nor was it to try and discredit Bob, We just wanted Bob's either him self or some one else that successfully had run the 101 cell with the PWM3F board, and got the results that were claimed by Bob.
I posed information of our coil and ALL the information. Impendence, resistance, Inductance.
And much more, We tried, and we posted what we did, it seems that no one else wants to or CAN NOT.
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aussepom 2 years ago
On photobucket you can view the set up of the board and the outputs 'as it was being done'.
It was the last set up that was used on the cell. All we did was to show what we had, and yes were followed all the instruction that were 'available' a lot more had to be got from searching
Bob's Comments for some old posts, there was even a comment of Bob's some where, saying that he did not like using the timers and that he should have used some other one.
To follow
aussepom 2 years ago
Hi
With out making a long story, the Cell was conditioned as per the information in the D9,
A long process, it was tested for brute force as well, but over the 204volts the current would rise sharply and with it the temperature.
The frequencies were correctly set , in the video I was trying to concentrate on what I was doing, and trying to answer questions at the same time so if you heard the wrong frequencies then that was due to the circumstances.
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aussepom 2 years ago
joefanatics im not here to discredit you of your findings.After all you didnt lie you just posted what you found out and was being honest. I would really like to know what your electrolite was and percent,what kind and how pure is the water?What were the actual frequencies that you used? Volts,amps,gauge of wires used on the torid. I would really like to here back from you as I have 80% of the components for building the complete system and would like very much to hear back from you,thanks
hhoverdrive1 2 years ago
According to the D9. NaOh @ 10% per D9. 12 ltr / min as brute force. The point of the exercise is to test the frequency set up. One of our boards was actually built by Bob and I built a replica. The fundamental design was flawed. So far we have not found a successful replication. See Extraordinary Science Conference. dvd by Moray B King. I think he is hitting the nail on the head. Study that. We simply challenge Bob to demonstrate a cell with his electronics running an engine.
joefanatics 2 years ago
i own a 101 and on brute force it does very well. I like the 60 plate unit better but I know bobs not gonna put something out he hasn't made work himself. There are only 4-5 people who have the expertise for resonance drive and as far as i know they have all had sucess with it. 9LPM brute force at 5 amps 187 volts is enough production for me. If you follow his instructions to the letter you should be getting the same. I know others are Good luck with your project Gentleman have a blessed day.
ghostriderinnc 2 years ago
I'll tell you how good a person Bob Boyce is. I had surgery and out of hundreds of people I know and have worked with on hydrogen he was one of three who called too see how I was doing. I will vouch he is as honest as they come. I too didn't believe in bobs methods when I started but I was wrong. Bobs really influenced my work in many ways and I respect the heck out of him and his knowledge in this field is immense almost all of the top builders have consulted bob at one time or another.
ghostriderinnc 2 years ago
You know every time you buy an electronic the next day it's outdated so I would expect regular changes too D9 your box is an old design the internal slot material has been revised too the top of the boxes along time ago. There may be valid arguments to be made it's not my design but the brute force drive of these boxes still outperforms most cells out there I'd say better than 95 percent. It would take hundreds of hours and videos too begin to debunk these cells and make a valid argument.
ghostriderinnc 2 years ago
what your trying to say is that the boyce boxes don't work at all and thats just not the case. They do make allot of gas even just brute force they make allot of gas. I think thats been proven my suggestion would be to get your cell working with standard drive and then try the resonance drive cause you just cannot make a credible argument if you aren't even getting the regular drive running correctly then move too resonance. Your attacking a good honest person who helps so many people freely.
ghostriderinnc 2 years ago
We sought assistance earlier and still looking for a credible replication....Maybe you can guide us??? but it seems clear that the system is a no go. If you know so much then please direct me to the data sheet of a fully working system and why does the D9 change every five minutes when the boyce system has been out for years?
joefanatics 2 years ago
And I suppose you have a car running on a bob boyce cell? We built it according to the D9 doc and don't you think it strange that there is no one who has the frequency system working. If so please direct me to the data on such a project. Even Bob has no footage or data that is anything special. Very sad...
joefanatics 2 years ago
waight a minute thats not even a boyce box let me get this straight your bashing a desighn and you were too cheap to buy a properly built boyce box lol this is hillarious
ghostriderinnc 2 years ago
If I was bob I wouldn't assist on this I'd let ya choke on the material for bashing him it's obvious either your electrolyte level is too high or too low and it's obvious you did not condition the cell and should not be useing resonance coils with your safety procedures.
ghostriderinnc 2 years ago
It takes about 10 amps to make 1 liter per min. of HHO.
It takes over 11,356 liters of HHO to equal 1 gal. of gasoline.
My simple math tells me HHO is not worth the effort.
Thats 10 amps of draw for 189 Hours to = 1 gal. of gasoline.
Gasoline is expensive, but not that expensive.
I can't afford HHO.
Anyone have any math that can show how HHO can save gasoline ?
noimw 2 years ago
one big flaw shows us that its you who is crap.
The bob boyce fz 42.8 you state in this video you tested 48.2 are you DYSLIXIC?
mrgareta 2 years ago
I think you are confused. The information Bob has revealed to a few individuals has to do with the hex controller. He has never withheld information from the public on the PWM. And he posted on at least 2 forums (hydroxy & workingwatercar) info about the IC problem at the highest frequency (42.8 kHz). The IC made by one mfgr. failed to meet specs, thus many were unable to get it to work properly. Mine works fine once Bob gave me the same IC made by a different company.
h2owalker01 2 years ago
I'm surprised that you, a complete stranger, seem to know more about what I have than I do. As far as Bob wanting a visit, he welcomes friends with open arms but certainly does not want visitors who are disrespectful and make statements about him that are false. I suspect that you also would not befriend those who disrespect you or make false accusations. He's divulged that info to a few individuals, and as far as I know, they have never leaked it to the public.
h2owalker01 2 years ago
Can you shut up magnetman1000.
Anothercoilgun 2 years ago
The original 'The Cell' from Premelters used conditioned plates and their first installation in a Ford F-150 got around 117% improvement in mileage consistently. When they changed from conditioned plates to electropolished plates, against Bob's advice, they began to have problems with diminished gas output. I don't know if they have currently solved the problem.
h2owalker01 2 years ago
The Cell with old AND new plates are both working perfectly on all vehicles We install them on, including the F150.
As far as the resonance drive....we had Bob Boyce here for over a year, and HE couldn't get his resonance drive working...Hmm. When we confronted him with this fact, in front of many witnesses, he was gone the next day (or I should say in the middle of the night) and now he tries to discredit us...once again WHY??
Bob Potchen
The Cell, Inc.
premelters 2 years ago
@premelters
At least Bob Boyce isn't trying to trademark the name "Bob Boyce" like you, Mr. Potchen, attempted!
(Yes, Bob Potchen just tried to Trademark "Bob Boyce" for exclusive use by "The Cell Inc". That tells you something about how trustworthy he is!)
Also, you claimed that you succeeded in getting resonance for 18 seconds, but you couldn't keep it going. You seem to be changing your story as it fits your whimsy.
cough-scammer?-cough
ke6gwf 1 year ago
Ok How much gas is your unit putting out. How did you measure gas volume? Volts and Amps? and have you got the frequency gene working producing gas? As far as I know NON one has the frequency unit working and even if you have more gas it will cook the unit any way so it is of no use in that mode. The whole point of the exercise is to get the frequencies doing the work and it does not! Ian
joefanatics 2 years ago
thanks for info. bob refers to the cell "under resonance"... did you dump lots of KOH in it? say 120 degrees shift the 2 higher frequencies advanced from the lowest frequency? think if the highest frequency was cleaned up it would help the cause? hex controller ? boyce isnt replicated ever....so is therefore a pinochio
earthhydro 2 years ago
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Don't hold your breath.
ZeroFossilFuel 2 years ago
There is currently no video on U-tube or on the internet of Bob Boyce gizmo actually working. I had planned to start buying the items to make the unit in the fall, however I am now having my doubts. Come on people, if any one has a working unit out there please put it on the internet! (I wonder if the government is taking off all videos of a working unit??? I doubt that) But anything is posiable.
grimlords 2 years ago
Hi We spent $3000 on this to find it is totally flawed in all design features so I hope we have saved you some time and money. Some sort of hybrid HOH and Joe Cell may be the way to go. You need the 'Quality gas' or 'Energy field or frequency'. We just can't make enough of H2 to run a car. 500Litres per min is the figure I believe but when you get into the high energy gas a car can be run on very little. I am putting my efforts in this direction and revisiting the Archie Blue cell. Cheers Ian
joefanatics 2 years ago
I see some major flaws in your video. First of all the 3 frequencies should be 10.7 Hz, 21.4 Hz, & 42.8 Hz (not 48.2 Hz as you state in the video). Bob's hex controller is proprietary and will not be released to any group. You haven't described the procedures used in the construction of your electrolyzer and for it to work properly the instructions must be followed carefully. And finally, just because you can't get your unit to work does not mean that the design is flawed. Maybe its you.
h2owalker01 2 years ago
A vehicle that gets 30 MPG, at 60 MPH that is 2 gal. of gasoline per hour.
That same vehicle at the same speed would require 22,712 liters of HHO.
That means you need to be able to produce 378 liters per min. to use HHO alone.
(11,356 liters of HHO = 1 gallon of gasoline)
noimw 2 years ago
@joefanatics
How do you know it is flawed in "all design features"?
All it would take is one frequency being off, or not having sanded the plates right, or not having enough KoH, and it cancels out the resonance.
Also, I understand 20% or 28% electrolyte depending on which one you use, and I think you said you had 10%?
I see a lot of things that are wonky, but you blame in on Bob's design.
Another thing, it could just be your scope settings, but your pulse width looks too wide to me.
ke6gwf 1 year ago
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h2owalker01 2 years ago
@grimlords
Maybe when the people succeed in getting it working, they realize that it may not be in their best interest to let everybody know!
There are manufacturing license agreements, as well as a military contract in the mix. If I you got it working, would you tell everybody how you did it, or see if you could get some money out of it first? ;)
ke6gwf 1 year ago
What makes no sense to me is how Bob can understand this science yet cant properly release a 555 circuit to the public that doesnt have the same old ghost in the circuit . And he realized that like 1 year after ... Once everybody had already purchased his first version and told him about it ...His alternator story also makes no sense @ all . Its its so hard to tune to see some added results than how could ''pure luck'' make it happen ... Odds are not in his favor .
dankiewfc 2 years ago
Hi We do have all the figures but it was about 12 litres per min. Around 80% faraday. I think we got to90 at one stage. However that does not help much. The unit would melt down if left on. Ian
joefanatics 2 years ago
Can you show the cell operating above Faraday in Brute force mode as others already have?
crackahcrackah 2 years ago
How about the moron who voted me down post a response as to why my comment is invalid? Probably because IT IS VALID. These guys haven't demonstrated one of the steps in the claimed process so why should this "replication" be viewed as a replication?
crackahcrackah 2 years ago
Hi Can you tell us who voted you down and where?? What is the claimed step you refer to?? Who has achieved over faraday and where are the figures? ian
joefanatics 2 years ago
Have you achieved over Faraday's in brute force mode after conditioning the plates and prior to testing the toroid? What is the rate of production in brute force mode?
crackahcrackah 2 years ago
Also , everybody should know that the information passed on by peswiki is most of the time 100% disinformation , they overhype constantly and claim things to be functionnal when they are not . Yes , TheCell is most likely all that bob boyce has achieved
dankiewfc 2 years ago
LOL, you right and over $3000, for THE CELL, It is highway robery!!!
ElectroJoltman 2 years ago 2
@dankiewfc
"The Cell" is not built to Boyce standards, and is having alleged problems as a result.
The plates are assembled with double-sticky tape which seems to be leading to major fouling problems. (surprise surprise)
ke6gwf 1 year ago
I had my doupts, and now I'm sure: It just does not work as claimed. Maybe the claims where just to make him popular so now he can sell: THE CELL ???
ElectroJoltman 2 years ago
@ElectroJoltman
Bob Boyce is not involved with The Cell anymore. They tried to make it cheaper resulting in it being crappy, and he left. Now they are claiming he wasn't involved in the design and trying to claim he is full of it, at the same time they are trying to Trademark the name "Bob Boyce"...
Weirdness!
ke6gwf 1 year ago
I`m still skeptic about the ``way Bob first discovered this effect... broken diode was it ... So e first saw this effect by pure luck yet , you you probably tried countless possibilities and saw nothing ... something if really fishy with Bob`s story .
dankiewfc 2 years ago
@dankiewfc
Or maybe they just missed something like having the right amount of KoH!
The diode blowing didn't create resonance. It allowed the Catalytic reaction creating Mono-atomic H, which then led him through a series of research steps improving the Mono-H output, and eventually led to resonance.
There is a big difference!
ke6gwf 1 year ago
mmmm It belongs to the association but I did put $1000 into it. All up a good $3000+ and it is extremely heavy. Offers????Ian
joefanatics 2 years ago
@joefanatics
Tell you what, figure out shipping costs to California, and I will troubleshoot it for you, and then post my results.
ke6gwf 1 year ago
Do you want to sell you set up?
ashtweth 2 years ago
Let us hope so. He has been around for years now so we should be getting some results. Ian
joefanatics 2 years ago
Lets make Bob Boyce come out of his rathole .
dankiewfc 2 years ago
My cells work just great on 29V DC. I never thought getting the right frequency would help.
ttward2 2 years ago