@GeoCoppens @ Yes but he's telling u... how scientific eveidence you have discovered recently.....has been mentioned in the Quran gazillion of years ago... :D
@midniter666 There is no science in the Koran! You obviously don't know what science is. Science is defined by its method. There was no scientific methodology in the seventh century! All religion is nonsense!
buahahahahaha .. dn y does the bible says that the MOON has its own light and QURAN says that the light of the moon is the reflected light of the SUN ??? GOOF :p
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leech like emproy (and emproy cycle) is just the using of Extrapolation and Interpolation techniques to the knowledge of medical and surgery (through experiments on human and animals) by the writer of poems.
also Zakir is using very bad English translation from Arabic poems to fools other.
Who possessed Mohammad your prophet? Is this a question Dr. Zakir addresses, or is he content with telling you God who created everything is also bound by the laws of physics?
the quran has not been changed since its creation, this is why it is impossible to find any fault with it. every time i see comedians mock religion they base upon christianity - a religion which book ahs not only been changed several times but one which was shaped to help the pagans in the 3rd century. i will become an athiest if any man is able to have a proper arguement with dr zakir naik and prove him completely wrong. but i know that is not possible lol.
@MrStrumhard ,,, hahahaha...... first you would need to read all the great books of all religions to come to any conclusion.... the knowledge in Bible and Quran is just kiddish in front of the knowledge in Vedas ... go read Vedas first and decide for yourself...
The Koran teaches that the world is flat. This doctrine is believed by Islamic scholars even today. The Bible revealed that the earth is round in Isaiah 40:22. "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth
when Jesus talked about his lord..his father or when Mohammed talked about Allah, they were both referring to "Krishna"...... krishna never praised anyone or followed anyone.... he was the only one who said "I am God and there is none above me"
Allah swt is eternity and Muhammad and Issiah peace be up on them both, were Allah's servants and they had the same message from Allah swt .
my dear friend you need to read more . because on the last day krishna will not help you neither can we help you , On that day Allah swt tells you to go to krishna to save you and krishna will tell you stay away from me , i am myself in pain you help me first then i help you , so you both might be together
@ahmedjawedfedaee ... Allah is nothing but Krishna...... and at the end , you and me will be standing in front of him.... i would say you need to read more about krishna and the vedas .... the knowledge that is there in Vedas is miles ahead in terms of depth compared to Bible and Quran combined together...... You people believe in prophets who gave you a message of God but are ignorant about the message that the God himself gave as Krishna... Krishna wasn't any prophet..
in Genesis 6 v 1 and 2 , the bible calls the angels that meets with women ,the SONS OF GOD..Meaning the content of Sons of God is not Particular to Jesus Only...Proof,in the Bible...God is on Even if the Hebrew thought Jesus was God..God in v3 God said My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh.
wait a second: so its superior to simply the stages of embriology and reduce it to aspects that look similar in shape and appearance i.e blood clots and leaches?! sorry but the more i listen to zakir naik, the more he cleverly puts a spin on everything to favour his point of view. why can't he tell us something that scientists are yet to discover then?? oh wait.... he is waiting for it be discovered in science before he can translate and interpret his quran verses to match the same fact!!
@speedgun00 okay i tell you science is about to discover the angels among us and the world of jins and the "ruh" or soul and the fact that "birds are supported or hung in the air by Allah"....or that earth was made in two days and there are 7 heavens and heavens were created in 2 days...and that sun worships and prostrates Allah at the end of the day....and that we will rise again from dead...etc etc etc....
@pakdhartii your talking about biblical miracles. i believe in god but i'm asking about a more obvious scientific discovery that the quran tells us i.e. something about the human body or the galaxy. and i want somebody to tell me something in this region that is stated in the quran and YET to be discovered by scientists. islamic scholars are quick to relate new scientific facts (discovered in the last 2 years) and link them with the quran. so tell me something about the planets i dont no already
@speedgun00 no dear about the birds etc its not mentioned in bible....but lets first clear 2 things...
1:Quran is not a book of science..its a book of "signs"...
2:the exact meaning of each verse is known only by Allah ...so we reserve the "interpretation" till the events disclose to avoid any "misinterpretation"....
now...science is yet to prove that human DNA is alien to the planet...and that the real center for decision making and emotion is heart not brain....plus the disbelievers have some
@speedgun00 sort of "curtain" over their eyes and ears that they cannot hear or see what the believer see or hear.and that fly also carries the cure of the disease it carries.and many more.about planets."the planets that run their course and set"(16)"These are the stars that withdraw (disappear) during the day and sweep across the sky (appear) at night.''(Ali RA).regarding the ayah number 15-16.so its yet to be discovered the literal meaning is not yet discovered."withdraw" or "sweep"etc etc etc
@speedgun00 The quran isn't a book of science its not trying to further scientific discovery. The scientific consistencies with the quran however should provide signs and strengthen the credibility of the quran but that is for you to believe and yes dr. zakir naik does do alot of that but there are other scientific consistencies that he doesn't talk about which aren't far fetched
This is one of the million proofs that quran is the book of Allah unlike Bible which is published as revised edition hiding the errors.......hahahahaha
if mohammad had written da quran den he wudav said we will continue to burn ur skin till the extreme and not let it fall off or melt and keep it in dat form so u shal feel da pain. but since allah created the pain receptors in the skin he said he shall replace ur skin with new skin. how did mohammad know dat burnt skin doesnt feel pain. obviously quran is the word of god and NOT wriiten by mohammad(saw).
@Bosanacpravi My friend, Jesus Himself said He is the Son of God. He talked about His death and resurrection many times, but Muhammed comes five centuries later to deny it, so as to qualify himself as a messenger of God. The Bible says all have sinned...and the wages of sin is death. Jesus paid the debt you owe by dying for your sins. By rejecting Him you are indirectly denying yourself a place in heaven, because without Jesus no one can enter heaven.
@73geneva i love and respect jesus christ like prophet but u cant showe me anywhere in the bible where jesus christ says "im son of God" or "worship me" please watch this video :/watch?v=-Pmj1-bRPZQ&feature=related
@Bosanacpravi Dude, you asked for proof of Jesus's claim of being the Son of God and I showed you right there in the inherent word of God: the Bible. Now you present me with another website, with Zakir Naik. Why don't you refer to your Quran; I thought it's the word of your God, or do you believe in YouTube and Zakir Naik more than your Quran? It's ludicrous.
@73geneva Jesus of the English Bible complains about the 'crucifixion'
("Eli! Eli! Lama sabachthani? - My God! My God! Why have You forsaken me?") [Mk 15:34].
How can Jesus be the "Only Begotten Son" of John 3:16? When in Psalms 2:7 David is God's "Begotten Son?"Would a 'Just' God, a 'Fair' God, a 'Loving' God -- punish Jesus for the sins of the people that he called to follow him?.The Bible says "Seth (is) the son of Adam" and that"Adam is the son of God." [Lk 3:36]
@Bosanacpravi he obviously doesnt say " im the son of God, worship me". he said " the Father and I are one." " before abraham, I was"... how can a human being like a prophet be the same thing as God? how can a human being and God be ONE?? and how could jesus, who was born after abraham, say he existed BEFORE abraham??
I also have God swt with me , So am I God ? no ! we are all God's word all of us . He said be ( be is a word ) we all are , we are words of God , we are not God , Brothers Christians , please read with your own brain the bible and the H.Quran then talk , why are wasting your time ? read first then come talk , we are all here for you . brother God swt forgives every sin but not when one bring someone beside him to worship . God says this Himself . SubhanAllah
@ahmedjawedfedaee okay let me ask you one question: do you agree that God and only God has the power to forgive sins? if you do then how can you explain the part where jesus says that He can forgive sins?
@73geneva No offense Geneva but if i committed a crime today and got caught, could I stand infront of the judge tomorrow and tell him that Jesus (pbuh) died for my sins so let me go? Of course not.
@iftyshifty The thief that was killed alongside Jesus, paid for his crime when he was executed. But right there, when he accepted Jesus, the King promised him everlasting life. The final judge you and I will have to face is God Himself and that is the final judgment. Jesus said don't fear those that can only kill your body; but fear the one that can kill you and then send you to hell; that's the one to fear. Jesus came to save us from the final punishment, just as He saved the thief.
some time i would like to ask you and guys like you , Did you ever read the whole bible or ever you read the Holy Quran ? my brother you have brain , read both and then come talk to us , we will be here waiting for ye . I promise . Lets be smart and read then discuss from our own brain not from a church or leader of religion , right ?
@sortitout002 The Bible is not a scientific book and was written by men who lived before the invention of modern science. Yes I said men because it was not written by God-it was inspired.
Please see the whole debate, what Dr, William Campbell said and what Dr, zakir Naik said about error in the Quran and the Bible and what where the questions asked by the audience and who answered in what ways. i guess i'm trying say is that , "guess see the whole debate", Then comment because I can see some are talking about noah and the flood and saying that is an error in the quran although Dr,zakir has answer it in this debate so please see the full debate then comment.
The biggest lie in the Quran is the chapter that talks about Noah and the great flood. Science has proven there was no flood of that magnitude. That is one of many false statements in the Quran.
"The Quran contains 43 references to Noah (نوح, Nūḥ) in 28 suras (chapters), notably Sura Nuh and Sura Hud. Sura 11 (Hud) is largely an account of the Flood. Sura 71 (i.e., Sura Nuh), of 28 verses, consists of a divine injunction to Noah to preach, a short sermon of Noahs to his idolatrous contemporaries on the monotheism of Allah (God), and Noahs complaint to God about the hardness of the peoples hearts when his preaching is met by ridicule.Biggest bullshit ever You believe in fairytales.
@jamal22066 o really? SHUT UP ! WHAT ABOUT THE TRUE FACTS THAT SCIENCE HAVE DISCOVERED TODAY FROM QURAN? IT'S SCIENCE WHO NEEDS QURAN TO GROW UP,NOT QURAN WHO NEEDS SCIENCE.QURAN IS FAR SUPERIOR THAN UR THOUGHTS,IF THESE LAME HUMANS CANT FIND THE TRUTH THAT DDOESNOT MEAN THAT QURAN IS WRONG.
It is common sense that the skeleton comes before the flesh. It is like looking at a peach and knowing that the flesh of the peach comes before the seed.
In the embryo the bones form before flesh.This is just discovered this year no one knew it before. Did u know about underwater waves? these exist. did greeks know that the sun orbits? greeks said that earth orbits around the sun but they dint say that sun also orbits and rotates along its own axis as stated in Quran!
@EbeerIglesias the Mayans observed this a few thousand years before the Quran. They correctly predicted movements of celestial bodies and dates and times. Muslims now say that the big bang is mentioned in the Quran because science has proven that the big bang happened, but if you told a Muslim about his thoughts on the big bang about 40 years ago he would laugh in your face. Just like Muslims laugh at evolutionary scientists and anthropology who continue to find fossils of early human beings.
@EbeerIglesias NONSENSE....what makes you so dishonest, that you want to delude yourself
the process of change to 'form bones' begins within the formed foetus....and as koran depicts 'clothing' of them its proof of the hoax when clothing goes on the outside...ask any doctor whether theyVE EVER seen the foetus with bones on the outer waiting to be clothed lol
you obviously DONT HAVE A CLUE as to the sources of whats in you man made comic book
@Shawrix That's merely denoting the self-evident. It's easy to assume an orbit, many sects have done it before all modern religions (inc. Islam). This does not indicate which is orbiting around what and cannot be used as evidence, esp. as it is very vague and doesn't encompass science.
Embryology was known by the greeks before the Quran was written. Lucretius never claimed to be a prophet but said that the soul is made of very tiny atoms and is linked together throughout veins, flesh and sinews. Many people back then can have scientific theories without technology it doesn't mean it is from god.
Yes, but how did the Arabs of the region know about it? Arab lands during the time were secluded from the rest of the world. You weren't going to have anyone study in Greece. Secondly, the Greeks were wrong on some of details and excluded some of the details, details that the Qu'ran mentions. Half-wrong = All Wrong. You have to be 100% right for something to be right.
Please notice, this is a Muslim vs Christian debate video... so me being a Christian who wants to learn and understand Islam (not to convert), I naturally was interested.
Im not bashing Muslims... just so you know ;) I have much respect for your amount of faith, even though I disagree on specific points. But I am so glad to hear that you have faith in the immaculate birth of Jesus
No my dimmly witted friend, I disagree because I think your logic is flawed. I CAN agree, its not impossible for me, but I make a conscious CHOICE not to agree with you.
EXACTLY because you CANT believe my logic is sound. But WHY can't you believe me? WHO will punish if you do?? Ahhhhh, no wonder, dim witted friend that you CANT beleive my logic. DUH! See, you should have proved it was FEAR, then I would not be left with stupidity as the most obvious reason! LOL
Are you daft or have a learning disability? I told you 15 times why I cant believe you and it has nothing to do with fear of punishment... so yes, your logic is flawed so no wonder, my weasly little friend, that I CANT believe your logic. DUH! I should prove it was fear so that I can stop listening to you say it over and over, but it wouldnt be true then... and that would make me a liar
No matter how logical I am, you CANT believe the logic I present. WHY???
If I am illogical, then SHOW me. Copy and paste and argument and then explain why it is illogical. Showing where I am illogical will cause DISbelief in what I say. NOT proving me illogical, gives you no reason to NOT beleive me. OTHER than FEAR or stupidity. GET IT?? Nah, I bet you CANT!! WATCH, to see if I tell the truth! LOL
>>No matter how logical I am, you CANT believe the logic I present
YES, IF you were logical, I could believe your logic, DroopShoulder...
>> If I am illogical, then SHOW me
Lets start with Eve.. your logic says that believing what the serpent said caused Eve to disbelieve IN God... when that is not the case, its not a necessity that one disbelieve the first person to believe the words of a second... therefore, your logic is illogical
Please, please, please show me where my logic is flawed. I CAN believe you since no one is going to punish me if I do.
If I prove your logic is flawed, you CANT beleive me since your very own God, no Thor, is going to punish you if you do. No wonder you CANT after all this time. No wonder you haven't provided any PROOF of your claims, because if you did, I COULD believe you!
>>Please, please, please show me where my logic is flawed.
I have about 15 times, but you are unwilling to read and think about what I said, long enough for it to sink in past the 4th layer of your thick skull.
Hi drpsholder, I finished the video today... would you like to see it before I post it? or would you like to admit that you were lying before I put it out in public and show anyone who is interesed, exactly what your tactic is? False accusations, faulty logic circles, ad hominem circumstantial and argumentum ad personam... its a perfect combination to get yourself stuck in a lie that you create for yourself... ball is in your court, I leave the choice to you.
That is good :) then all we have to talk about is whether what is written about Jesus in the Bible in 70AD is correct or if what is written in the Qu'ran 600 years later is. Let me ask you this, did Muhammad know how to read and write? Some Muslims say yes, some people say no. So I am asking what you believe.
OH.... by the way... the fact that you made comments on my posts, I received those comments and replied back to them is PROOF that I didn't block you. Just thought I would mention that so you could see yet ANOTHER reason why I don't believe anything you say.
WHAHAHA! When I send a PM to you, it does not go thru, which is PROOF you blocked me. LOL
You CANT block me on this forum, but you CAN and DID in Private message forum. That's the reason my emails dont go thru, so I come here to expose you in public. BUt WHY CANT you believe me. WHO is going to punish you if you do? LOL Ahhhhh, no wonder you CANT, but you try so hard. BROTHER, you CANT! You just CANT do it. Keeping trying, but you CANT! The more you try and cant, proves me right!
Since you can't read, or you are purposely ignoring what I have previously said. I won't be posting any further comments on this subject, UNLESS you can substantiate your claims which you have repeatedly refused to do. The flood does not prove punishment for non-belief, it proves punishment for evil deeds. Eves punishment (what about Adam) does not prove punishment for disbelief, it proves punishment for will full disobedience.
I HAVE, but you CANT believe them for some strange reason.
Every time I do, since you CANT beleive me, will always reply that I did not. This is only because you will not admit that you CANT beleiv me. BUT WHY? Prove its fear for your own good! LOL
YEP and until you CAN understand that you CANT believe me. I will not be posting any more messages to you.
You just CANT understand. But you never helped me figure out WHY you CANT understand?? WHO is going to punish you if you believe me??? Ahhhhhhhh, no wonder you CANT! LOL
YEP, until you CAN believe me, but I don't think that will ever happen when your very own God will punish you if you do. SORRY he controls you so much, but you CANT admit that he does. SAD! LOL
If you could substantiate your claims, you would have by now."
WHAHAHAH I have FOOL, but there is something keeping you from believing me. I wonder what that is???? PUnishment maybe. By your very own God too? LOL SAD, very SAD! LOL
Where is this proof? Your illogical, non-biblical circle, that you keep harping about is not proof of anything except your lack of understanding of scripture. Stop harping and running in circles, think about what you are trying to say before you say it and you will see the flaw in your logic. The flaw is that you are saying God will punish me for disbelief when no where in the Bible does it say that.
Hey dingleberry.... notice he wasn't punishing for disbelief in those situations.... wake up and smell what the rock is cookin .... no one is going to punish for unbelief, he will punish for evil deads
Since beliefs cause you to ACT, can you attribute an action to a belief? YES. So, disobeying God is done because you don't believe in him, I wonder if this ACTION of disobeying is related to what you BELIEVE. LOL
Adam and Eve CLEARLY believed in God, they spoke with him DIRECTLY.. So, their willful disobedience had absolutely nothing to do with belief or disbelief... it was a cause of their willful disobedience and self gratification, same as yours (an Atheist) and mine (a Christian) is.... again your logic is flawed beyond repair
>>Really, So, EVE beleived God when he said not to eat the apple. NO BROTHER!!!
NOW YOU ARE TWISTING! hahaha
First you said "believe IN God"... and now you are saying "believe God" those are two very different statements... believing IN something means you believe it exists... believing someone means that you trust what they tell you.
Twisting your own words now... proof #3 of your false logic and poor debate skills
what relationship? the one where you twisted your words? fine example then... stellar performance, really bravo, always good to see a guy that cant admit that he has defeated himself. I didnt defeat you, you defeated yourself... now you have no one to blame but you.
No, everyone acts outside of what God wants, including Christians... that proves your lack of fundamental understanding of the subject matter. >>Lack of belief in God, causes you to murder.
are you a murderer? once again, basic english a lack of belief IN God is not a lack of belief in what God told her... Do they speak English in Georgia?
No, everyone acts outside of what God wants, including Christians... .
Twisting the overall meaning of what I was saying will never allow you to understand. But WHY do you do it? Is someone going to punish you if you believe me?? Thor or your very own God?
Since he will punish you, no wonder you CANT and will TWIST what I say to keep from believing me. It will work eachtime you do it brother. I guarantee!
sad really sad.... I was correcting the flaw in your "overall meaning" you can falsify reality all you want to make it fit your argument, but when someone points it out you accuse them of twisting your words.... when you twist your own words, you defeat yourself... you fight too hard, for too long, and then you get stuck in your own faulty logic circle and get confused about what you are saying... I feel bad for you
You have displayed a lack of basic knowledge in Genesis, the 1st book of the Bible, if you didnt get through the 1st book and understand it, Im sure you didnt understand the rest of it either. If you don't understand the Bible, you cant understand my religion, if you cant understand my religion you have no foundation to say there is a logical flaw in it.
what relationship? the one where you twisted your words?"
The ONE that is very easy to SEE if you don't twist my words! K. But WHY do you do it?? WHO is guiding you??? WHO is causing you to NOT believe me??? WHY can't you understand my logic, nor prove me wrong??? HUH
Im not twisting your words, but yes maybe you are right... if i was a red neck from Augusta, or a product of inbreeding I could see your easy "proof". But unfortunately Im neither of those things so all I see is faulty logic and flat out lies... funny how the only comment you ignored of mine dealt with exposing your lie in a video... pretty swift move there guy
Yep sounds real familiar... thought I would see how you enjoy getting a taste of your own medicine... sucks don't it... got you thinkin about a video and how its going to show how you accuse people of doing things to "run away" when they never did... maybe Moohamad would like to see the video
NOT believing God caused Eve to eat the apple, which got her punished, RIGHT?????
NOT believing IN God will cause God to punish you, RIGHT???
SEE what I mean. It really is very simple, but since you CANT understand the simple, you must be STUPID. Brother, I tried to make you admit it was FEAR and you could have proved it was FEAR. But since you SAY it can't be FEAR, then it must be stupidity! You should have proved FEAR! LOL
>>NOT believing God caused Eve to eat the apple, which got her punished, RIGHT?????
>>NOT believing IN God will cause God to punish you, RIGHT???
Those two statements have nothing at all in common. 1.) Yes, not believing God caused Eve to eat the apple and get punished 2.) No, God punishes for willfully disobeying, not disbelief.
You must be 2 bricks short of a full load if you think those 2 statements have any relationship to one another.
But since ACTIONS come from BELIEFS, not a lack of beliefs...............what caused EVE to eat the apple.
Eve lacked a belief in God, which caused her to eat the apple right???? This caused God to punish her, because she did not believe, which lead her to eat the apple!
no, obviously not because your actions come from a lack of beliefs.... you are living proof that your statement is false!
>>Eve lacked a belief in God, which caused her
No she didnt lack belief IN God, she was tempted into believing something contrary to what God had told her... very big difference, she wasnt and atheist, she believed IN God. He punished her for eating the apple, not for being and atheist
Which CAUSED her not to believe GOD's order, right??????
She LACKED a belief because she was tempted by a serpent. But sadly a lack of belief does not cause you to act; therefore the whole freaking story is illogical.
>>I said she ate the apple because she BELIEVED God's orders or because she did NOT believe God's orders?
Did you?? Lets see....
>>Eve lacked a belief in God, which caused her to eat the apple right????
Nope thats not what you said.... you said "lacked a belief IN God"... your own definition of an atheist is a person who lacks a belief IN God. Therefor... you said she was an ATHEIST.... Seriously you have drain bramage ;)
Lacked a belief IN God...........lacked a belief IN God's word.
You are just taking me too literally to keep from understanding the rudimentary relationshiop that joins the two. WHY?? Will someone punish you if you believe me and DISbelieve in him??? WHO? LOL
I am sorry... I didn't know I had to not take the English meaning of the words you speak into consideration. I should have dumbed down so I could understand your argument clearly.
A better idea would be for you to think about what you want to convey in your message BEFORE you type it!
You have already dug a hole that you can't get out of drpsholder (drop-shoulder? is that anything like a hunchback?) So please keep on digging, its fun to what people who bully Christians and Muslims for believing IN God, defeat themselves.
RIght a lack of beliefs in a God will not cause you to ACT, in reality.
But according to the Bible, since Eve BELIEVED God, she ate the apple, right???? WHAHAHA NO brother. SEE how Christians try to promote that because she did not believe God, she ate the apple, but this is FALSE in the face of reality! LOL SAD, huh?
And Im acting based on my BELIEFS, not my lack of beliefs. WHAHA! Maybe you are just too dumb to understand what I am trying to teach you. Or it could be FEAR. But leaning to stupidity, since you say its not FEAR.
I never said atheists do not have beliefs, unless I was referring to HOW Christians THINK we have no beliefs.
Being an atheist, by mere self limitation of the definition, does not and cannot give you any clue as to WHAT atheist believes, for the term can only show a LACK of belief.
>>I never said atheists do not have beliefs, unless I was referring to HOW Christians THINK we have no beliefs.
You need to watch your own video, because you do in fact say that.
>>for the term can only show a LACK of belief.
a lack of belief in God... be specific Theist is a belief in God, Atheist is a lack of belief in God, but generally self proclaimed atheists believe in science. Science being a religion by your own definition in your video, makes atheism a sect of that religion.
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We don't give a shit what the Koran says! Use your brain, if any!
GeoCoppens 11 hours ago
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GeoCoppens 5 days ago
@GeoCoppens @ Yes but he's telling u... how scientific eveidence you have discovered recently.....has been mentioned in the Quran gazillion of years ago... :D
midniter666 4 days ago
@midniter666 There is no science in the Koran! You obviously don't know what science is. Science is defined by its method. There was no scientific methodology in the seventh century! All religion is nonsense!
GeoCoppens 4 days ago
buahahahahaha .. dn y does the bible says that the MOON has its own light and QURAN says that the light of the moon is the reflected light of the SUN ??? GOOF :p
SharkSlaYer2009 21 hours ago
@SharkSlaYer2009 I don't care what the Bible ot the Koran say. All hogwash! What foolishness all of it!
GeoCoppens 13 hours ago
@midniter666 What exactly are you trying to tell me? And get some spelling lessons... Your English is more like baboonese.
GeoCoppens 10 hours ago
Also why there is { Lakom Deno Kom wal yaden } ?
If its true then why Moha Mad send Soldiers to Greater Iran & Greek ?
If Allah is the true God why dont come to our brain ?
Why not with Pen ?
Why with fight ?
I think its your easy Businuss you can find alot Stupid to listen & pay you & you can Have good name !
But Your Truely not Believing in it ?
kabul1soldier 4 weeks ago
Can you tel me why Mother Nature God or You called Allah !
Make us give us family , Friends & many many gift to Enjoy & then want us to fight & kill each other in the name of it !
Is your Allah A former to feed us like form animals make us nicely then kill & Enjoy ?
Also if there is Jehad or Fight in the name of Allah then what is Surat-ul AShab Feil { ELEPHANT } ?
kabul1soldier 4 weeks ago
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leech like emproy (and emproy cycle) is just the using of Extrapolation and Interpolation techniques to the knowledge of medical and surgery (through experiments on human and animals) by the writer of poems.
also Zakir is using very bad English translation from Arabic poems to fools other.
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ak220880 3 months ago
Who possessed Mohammad your prophet? Is this a question Dr. Zakir addresses, or is he content with telling you God who created everything is also bound by the laws of physics?
davitodude 4 months ago
im muslim and love islam but dr. zakir naik looks funny and talks funny kinda like a goats! but very smart brother!
Quran871 5 months ago 2
the quran has not been changed since its creation, this is why it is impossible to find any fault with it. every time i see comedians mock religion they base upon christianity - a religion which book ahs not only been changed several times but one which was shaped to help the pagans in the 3rd century. i will become an athiest if any man is able to have a proper arguement with dr zakir naik and prove him completely wrong. but i know that is not possible lol.
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nky0007 6 months ago
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Jesus never said "I am God", BUT ANOTHER MAN in the bible did say it, click on my channel to see...
youneekk 7 months ago
@MrStrumhard ,,, hahahaha...... first you would need to read all the great books of all religions to come to any conclusion.... the knowledge in Bible and Quran is just kiddish in front of the knowledge in Vedas ... go read Vedas first and decide for yourself...
laser3210 7 months ago
Many times I say this.Dr naik is clueless.I will debate him anytime but he never ever replies.He does not even understand the Quran.
sealsareopen 8 months ago
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He is making fool to stupids
TalabaSaarika 7 months ago
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PROOF THE QURAN IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD
The Koran teaches that the world is flat. This doctrine is believed by Islamic scholars even today. The Bible revealed that the earth is round in Isaiah 40:22. "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth
quran137 8 months ago
when Jesus talked about his lord..his father or when Mohammed talked about Allah, they were both referring to "Krishna"...... krishna never praised anyone or followed anyone.... he was the only one who said "I am God and there is none above me"
laser3210 9 months ago
@laser3210
Wau ? and how can you prove this ?
Allah swt is eternity and Muhammad and Issiah peace be up on them both, were Allah's servants and they had the same message from Allah swt .
my dear friend you need to read more . because on the last day krishna will not help you neither can we help you , On that day Allah swt tells you to go to krishna to save you and krishna will tell you stay away from me , i am myself in pain you help me first then i help you , so you both might be together
ahmedjawedfedaee 8 months ago
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@ahmedjawedfedaee ... Allah is nothing but Krishna...... and at the end , you and me will be standing in front of him.... i would say you need to read more about krishna and the vedas .... the knowledge that is there in Vedas is miles ahead in terms of depth compared to Bible and Quran combined together...... You people believe in prophets who gave you a message of God but are ignorant about the message that the God himself gave as Krishna... Krishna wasn't any prophet..
laser3210 7 months ago
@laser3210 Stupid.
MrGamemaker2000 7 months ago
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dr campbell said there is no barrier between the waters in this debate? there is.
here is the proof: /watch?v=q1YhH3QUu00
You can never say Allah is wrong in anything, you're only proving that you do not understand.
xdeadromeox 10 months ago
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dr campbell said there is no barrier between the waters in this debate? there is.
here is the proof: /watch?v=q1YhH3QUu00
You can never say Allah is wrong in anything, you're only proving that you do not understand.
xdeadromeox 10 months ago
I LOVE U DOCTOR JI
muhammedmunawaralam 11 months ago
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Watch out the latest debate of Zakir Naik at Oxford Union on the topic "ISLAM & 21ST CENTURY" in my account.
islamnpeace 11 months ago
im sorry...but bones are not formed, before felsh coats them....thats wrong....where can i hear Dr cambells argument? this seems very 1 sided
ItsKnucklez 1 year ago
dr williams cambell's look at 5:57 sums it all up
thesnm456 1 year ago 2
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11 minutes ago
in Genesis 6 v 1 and 2 , the bible calls the angels that meets with women ,the SONS OF GOD..Meaning the content of Sons of God is not Particular to Jesus Only...Proof,in the Bible...God is on Even if the Hebrew thought Jesus was God..God in v3 God said My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh.
reeshy2all 1 year ago
Anyone who wants to see all these questions answered search youtube for "james white zakir naik"
arakennel 1 year ago
Qur'an is the book of signs but not the book of Science. :)
mdrayan1 1 year ago
The Champion speaker....Dr. Zakir....You set the floor on fire.....God bless you.
asmatnabi 1 year ago 3
wait a second: so its superior to simply the stages of embriology and reduce it to aspects that look similar in shape and appearance i.e blood clots and leaches?! sorry but the more i listen to zakir naik, the more he cleverly puts a spin on everything to favour his point of view. why can't he tell us something that scientists are yet to discover then?? oh wait.... he is waiting for it be discovered in science before he can translate and interpret his quran verses to match the same fact!!
speedgun00 1 year ago
@speedgun00 okay i tell you science is about to discover the angels among us and the world of jins and the "ruh" or soul and the fact that "birds are supported or hung in the air by Allah"....or that earth was made in two days and there are 7 heavens and heavens were created in 2 days...and that sun worships and prostrates Allah at the end of the day....and that we will rise again from dead...etc etc etc....
pakdhartii 1 year ago
@pakdhartii your talking about biblical miracles. i believe in god but i'm asking about a more obvious scientific discovery that the quran tells us i.e. something about the human body or the galaxy. and i want somebody to tell me something in this region that is stated in the quran and YET to be discovered by scientists. islamic scholars are quick to relate new scientific facts (discovered in the last 2 years) and link them with the quran. so tell me something about the planets i dont no already
speedgun00 1 year ago
@speedgun00 no dear about the birds etc its not mentioned in bible....but lets first clear 2 things...
1:Quran is not a book of science..its a book of "signs"...
2:the exact meaning of each verse is known only by Allah ...so we reserve the "interpretation" till the events disclose to avoid any "misinterpretation"....
now...science is yet to prove that human DNA is alien to the planet...and that the real center for decision making and emotion is heart not brain....plus the disbelievers have some
pakdhartii 1 year ago
@speedgun00 sort of "curtain" over their eyes and ears that they cannot hear or see what the believer see or hear.and that fly also carries the cure of the disease it carries.and many more.about planets."the planets that run their course and set"(16)"These are the stars that withdraw (disappear) during the day and sweep across the sky (appear) at night.''(Ali RA).regarding the ayah number 15-16.so its yet to be discovered the literal meaning is not yet discovered."withdraw" or "sweep"etc etc etc
pakdhartii 1 year ago
@speedgun00 The quran isn't a book of science its not trying to further scientific discovery. The scientific consistencies with the quran however should provide signs and strengthen the credibility of the quran but that is for you to believe and yes dr. zakir naik does do alot of that but there are other scientific consistencies that he doesn't talk about which aren't far fetched
shakemaj96 5 months ago
This is one of the million proofs that quran is the book of Allah unlike Bible which is published as revised edition hiding the errors.......hahahahaha
shazebalamkhan 1 year ago
if mohammad had written da quran den he wudav said we will continue to burn ur skin till the extreme and not let it fall off or melt and keep it in dat form so u shal feel da pain. but since allah created the pain receptors in the skin he said he shall replace ur skin with new skin. how did mohammad know dat burnt skin doesnt feel pain. obviously quran is the word of god and NOT wriiten by mohammad(saw).
eurodance07 1 year ago
i think after hearing this talk... Christian can only two things.
1. Accept that there are scientific errors in BIBLE or
2. Change and write a new BIBLE as they have done before. one more revised version
sortitout002 1 year ago 113
@sortitout002 third thing :they should become muslims :D
Bosanacpravi 11 months ago
@Bosanacpravi My friend, Jesus Himself said He is the Son of God. He talked about His death and resurrection many times, but Muhammed comes five centuries later to deny it, so as to qualify himself as a messenger of God. The Bible says all have sinned...and the wages of sin is death. Jesus paid the debt you owe by dying for your sins. By rejecting Him you are indirectly denying yourself a place in heaven, because without Jesus no one can enter heaven.
73geneva 11 months ago
@73geneva i love and respect jesus christ like prophet but u cant showe me anywhere in the bible where jesus christ says "im son of God" or "worship me" please watch this video :/watch?v=-Pmj1-bRPZQ&feature=related
Bosanacpravi 11 months ago
@Bosanacpravi John 9:35-38. Jesus heard that they had cast him out and when He found him He said unto him: "Dost thou believe on the Son of God?"
He answered and said: "Who is he, Lord, that I might believe?"
Jesus said unto him: "Thou hast both seen Him and it is He that talketh to thee."
And he said: "Lord, I believe." And he worshipped Him.
73geneva 11 months ago
@73geneva /watch?v=-Pmj1-bRPZQ&feature=related this is the truth and i belive what dr zakir naik says!!!!!
Bosanacpravi 11 months ago
@Bosanacpravi Dude, you asked for proof of Jesus's claim of being the Son of God and I showed you right there in the inherent word of God: the Bible. Now you present me with another website, with Zakir Naik. Why don't you refer to your Quran; I thought it's the word of your God, or do you believe in YouTube and Zakir Naik more than your Quran? It's ludicrous.
73geneva 11 months ago
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@73geneva Jesus of the English Bible complains about the 'crucifixion'
("Eli! Eli! Lama sabachthani? - My God! My God! Why have You forsaken me?") [Mk 15:34].
How can Jesus be the "Only Begotten Son" of John 3:16? When in Psalms 2:7 David is God's "Begotten Son?"Would a 'Just' God, a 'Fair' God, a 'Loving' God -- punish Jesus for the sins of the people that he called to follow him?.The Bible says "Seth (is) the son of Adam" and that"Adam is the son of God." [Lk 3:36]
habeebchirayil 9 months ago
@Bosanacpravi he obviously doesnt say " im the son of God, worship me". he said " the Father and I are one." " before abraham, I was"... how can a human being like a prophet be the same thing as God? how can a human being and God be ONE?? and how could jesus, who was born after abraham, say he existed BEFORE abraham??
xcode394 10 months ago
@xcode394
I also have God swt with me , So am I God ? no ! we are all God's word all of us . He said be ( be is a word ) we all are , we are words of God , we are not God , Brothers Christians , please read with your own brain the bible and the H.Quran then talk , why are wasting your time ? read first then come talk , we are all here for you . brother God swt forgives every sin but not when one bring someone beside him to worship . God says this Himself . SubhanAllah
ahmedjawedfedaee 8 months ago
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@ahmedjawedfedaee okay let me ask you one question: do you agree that God and only God has the power to forgive sins? if you do then how can you explain the part where jesus says that He can forgive sins?
xcode394 8 months ago
@73geneva No offense Geneva but if i committed a crime today and got caught, could I stand infront of the judge tomorrow and tell him that Jesus (pbuh) died for my sins so let me go? Of course not.
iftyshifty 10 months ago
@iftyshifty The thief that was killed alongside Jesus, paid for his crime when he was executed. But right there, when he accepted Jesus, the King promised him everlasting life. The final judge you and I will have to face is God Himself and that is the final judgment. Jesus said don't fear those that can only kill your body; but fear the one that can kill you and then send you to hell; that's the one to fear. Jesus came to save us from the final punishment, just as He saved the thief.
73geneva 10 months ago
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@73geneva
some time i would like to ask you and guys like you , Did you ever read the whole bible or ever you read the Holy Quran ? my brother you have brain , read both and then come talk to us , we will be here waiting for ye . I promise . Lets be smart and read then discuss from our own brain not from a church or leader of religion , right ?
ahmedjawedfedaee 8 months ago
@sortitout002 Or they could become Muslims..
4000Abdi 9 months ago
@sortitout002 LMFAOOOO at the second part LOL thats funny cause its so damn true.
Melbourne619 7 months ago
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@sortitout002 LOL
abobobaba 5 months ago
@sortitout002 The Bible is not a scientific book and was written by men who lived before the invention of modern science. Yes I said men because it was not written by God-it was inspired.
infamous681 5 months ago
@sortitout002 what ever you say Christianity is better
xgamer2100 5 days ago
there is no god but allah and muhammad is his final messenger..
there is not a single verse in the bible where jesus christ (pbuh) himself says ''im god'' or where he says '' worship me''..
MrBOXA01 1 year ago 3
MashAllah
3awicha 1 year ago
Please see the whole debate, what Dr, William Campbell said and what Dr, zakir Naik said about error in the Quran and the Bible and what where the questions asked by the audience and who answered in what ways. i guess i'm trying say is that , "guess see the whole debate", Then comment because I can see some are talking about noah and the flood and saying that is an error in the quran although Dr,zakir has answer it in this debate so please see the full debate then comment.
Partytime60 1 year ago
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The biggest lie in the Quran is the chapter that talks about Noah and the great flood. Science has proven there was no flood of that magnitude. That is one of many false statements in the Quran.
jamal22066 1 year ago
where it says FLOOD ? IT SAYS A LITLE FLOOD -AND THE SICENTIC SAYS YES IT IS TRU. NOT LIKE BIBEL THE HOLE FARO. WE SAY A LITLE FLOOD !
MrDeathafterlife 1 year ago
"The Quran contains 43 references to Noah (نوح, Nūḥ) in 28 suras (chapters), notably Sura Nuh and Sura Hud. Sura 11 (Hud) is largely an account of the Flood. Sura 71 (i.e., Sura Nuh), of 28 verses, consists of a divine injunction to Noah to preach, a short sermon of Noahs to his idolatrous contemporaries on the monotheism of Allah (God), and Noahs complaint to God about the hardness of the peoples hearts when his preaching is met by ridicule.Biggest bullshit ever You believe in fairytales.
jamal22066 1 year ago
chapter 10 quran : ther was a flood but it was a lockal flood ! there you have it ! BAMMMM GO AND EAT SHEJTANS PUE !
MrDeathafterlife 1 year ago
@jamal22066 o really? SHUT UP ! WHAT ABOUT THE TRUE FACTS THAT SCIENCE HAVE DISCOVERED TODAY FROM QURAN? IT'S SCIENCE WHO NEEDS QURAN TO GROW UP,NOT QURAN WHO NEEDS SCIENCE.QURAN IS FAR SUPERIOR THAN UR THOUGHTS,IF THESE LAME HUMANS CANT FIND THE TRUTH THAT DDOESNOT MEAN THAT QURAN IS WRONG.
toobasalman 1 year ago
the problem here when Quran show proof and exactly what science discovered
they said, its common sense
but do they forget only recently discovered such topic on embyology? due the science and technology advanced in order to examine under microscope
what about 1400 years ago?
this statement is stake, if science prooven wrong, then Quran is lie,
u agree with that
but when it is true
u said its common sense,
so what should we muslims say anymore?
sowhatsowhatsowhattt 2 years ago
maha suci Allah atas apa yang mereka persifatkan.... Allahu Akbar...
there is no god, just Allah Swt.....
muhammad is a messenger
pakde234 2 years ago
It is common sense that the skeleton comes before the flesh. It is like looking at a peach and knowing that the flesh of the peach comes before the seed.
TheYellowtulip 2 years ago
In the embryo the bones form before flesh.This is just discovered this year no one knew it before. Did u know about underwater waves? these exist. did greeks know that the sun orbits? greeks said that earth orbits around the sun but they dint say that sun also orbits and rotates along its own axis as stated in Quran!
EbeerIglesias 2 years ago 53
@EbeerIglesias the Mayans observed this a few thousand years before the Quran. They correctly predicted movements of celestial bodies and dates and times. Muslims now say that the big bang is mentioned in the Quran because science has proven that the big bang happened, but if you told a Muslim about his thoughts on the big bang about 40 years ago he would laugh in your face. Just like Muslims laugh at evolutionary scientists and anthropology who continue to find fossils of early human beings.
jamal22066 1 year ago
@EbeerIglesias NONSENSE....what makes you so dishonest, that you want to delude yourself
the process of change to 'form bones' begins within the formed foetus....and as koran depicts 'clothing' of them its proof of the hoax when clothing goes on the outside...ask any doctor whether theyVE EVER seen the foetus with bones on the outer waiting to be clothed lol
you obviously DONT HAVE A CLUE as to the sources of whats in you man made comic book
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale are u a scientist? have u proved this verse practically wrong? go & do some research 1st then gv ur lame comments.
toobasalman 1 year ago
@EbeerIglesias
Please cite sources if you're going to make such claims.
RippIemagne 1 year ago
@EbeerIglesias Oh please the Koran teaches men are created from a clot of blood.
infamous681 5 months ago
@EbeerIglesias Really? All of that is stated in the Quran? Can you post where it says that here, please? Thanks.
inswoon 4 months ago
@inswoon Surah Yasin/40
It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day, and they all swim in an orbit.
Sura Enbiya/33
It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (of them) swim in an orbit.
Shawrix 4 months ago
@Shawrix That's merely denoting the self-evident. It's easy to assume an orbit, many sects have done it before all modern religions (inc. Islam). This does not indicate which is orbiting around what and cannot be used as evidence, esp. as it is very vague and doesn't encompass science.
inswoon 4 months ago
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Embryology was known by the greeks before the Quran was written. Lucretius never claimed to be a prophet but said that the soul is made of very tiny atoms and is linked together throughout veins, flesh and sinews. Many people back then can have scientific theories without technology it doesn't mean it is from god.
TheYellowtulip 2 years ago
Yes, but how did the Arabs of the region know about it? Arab lands during the time were secluded from the rest of the world. You weren't going to have anyone study in Greece. Secondly, the Greeks were wrong on some of details and excluded some of the details, details that the Qu'ran mentions. Half-wrong = All Wrong. You have to be 100% right for something to be right.
Dream23fb 2 years ago
I wonder if Dr William Campbell reverted to Islam
(the muslims use the word reverted instead of converted because every baby is born as a muslim)
hpakhtoon 2 years ago
but i wasnt born a muslim, nor was my son, nor my wife, nor any of my family
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Please notice, this is a Muslim vs Christian debate video... so me being a Christian who wants to learn and understand Islam (not to convert), I naturally was interested.
Im not bashing Muslims... just so you know ;) I have much respect for your amount of faith, even though I disagree on specific points. But I am so glad to hear that you have faith in the immaculate birth of Jesus
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
You disagree because you CANT agree. AGain, until you get this, I will continue to attempt to teach it to you!
drpsholder 2 years ago
>>You disagree because you CANT agree.
No my dimmly witted friend, I disagree because I think your logic is flawed. I CAN agree, its not impossible for me, but I make a conscious CHOICE not to agree with you.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
I disagree because I think your logic is flawed..
EXACTLY because you CANT believe my logic is sound. But WHY can't you believe me? WHO will punish if you do?? Ahhhhh, no wonder, dim witted friend that you CANT beleive my logic. DUH! See, you should have proved it was FEAR, then I would not be left with stupidity as the most obvious reason! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
Are you daft or have a learning disability? I told you 15 times why I cant believe you and it has nothing to do with fear of punishment... so yes, your logic is flawed so no wonder, my weasly little friend, that I CANT believe your logic. DUH! I should prove it was fear so that I can stop listening to you say it over and over, but it wouldnt be true then... and that would make me a liar
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
No matter how logical I am, you CANT believe the logic I present. WHY???
If I am illogical, then SHOW me. Copy and paste and argument and then explain why it is illogical. Showing where I am illogical will cause DISbelief in what I say. NOT proving me illogical, gives you no reason to NOT beleive me. OTHER than FEAR or stupidity. GET IT?? Nah, I bet you CANT!! WATCH, to see if I tell the truth! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
>>No matter how logical I am, you CANT believe the logic I present
YES, IF you were logical, I could believe your logic, DroopShoulder...
>> If I am illogical, then SHOW me
Lets start with Eve.. your logic says that believing what the serpent said caused Eve to disbelieve IN God... when that is not the case, its not a necessity that one disbelieve the first person to believe the words of a second... therefore, your logic is illogical
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Please, please, please show me where my logic is flawed. I CAN believe you since no one is going to punish me if I do.
If I prove your logic is flawed, you CANT beleive me since your very own God, no Thor, is going to punish you if you do. No wonder you CANT after all this time. No wonder you haven't provided any PROOF of your claims, because if you did, I COULD believe you!
drpsholder 2 years ago
>>Please, please, please show me where my logic is flawed.
I have about 15 times, but you are unwilling to read and think about what I said, long enough for it to sink in past the 4th layer of your thick skull.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Hi drpsholder, I finished the video today... would you like to see it before I post it? or would you like to admit that you were lying before I put it out in public and show anyone who is interesed, exactly what your tactic is? False accusations, faulty logic circles, ad hominem circumstantial and argumentum ad personam... its a perfect combination to get yourself stuck in a lie that you create for yourself... ball is in your court, I leave the choice to you.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
immaculate birth of Prophet Jesus is mentioned in Quran, every Muslim has firm believe on it.
spyhunt14 2 years ago
That is good :) then all we have to talk about is whether what is written about Jesus in the Bible in 70AD is correct or if what is written in the Qu'ran 600 years later is. Let me ask you this, did Muhammad know how to read and write? Some Muslims say yes, some people say no. So I am asking what you believe.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
OH.... by the way... the fact that you made comments on my posts, I received those comments and replied back to them is PROOF that I didn't block you. Just thought I would mention that so you could see yet ANOTHER reason why I don't believe anything you say.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
WHAHAHA! When I send a PM to you, it does not go thru, which is PROOF you blocked me. LOL
You CANT block me on this forum, but you CAN and DID in Private message forum. That's the reason my emails dont go thru, so I come here to expose you in public. BUt WHY CANT you believe me. WHO is going to punish you if you do? LOL Ahhhhh, no wonder you CANT, but you try so hard. BROTHER, you CANT! You just CANT do it. Keeping trying, but you CANT! The more you try and cant, proves me right!
drpsholder 2 years ago
Oh really? hmm after I post the video lets see who gets exposed... who the liar is... sure wont be me... time stamps work wonders here on YouTube.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Since you can't read, or you are purposely ignoring what I have previously said. I won't be posting any further comments on this subject, UNLESS you can substantiate your claims which you have repeatedly refused to do. The flood does not prove punishment for non-belief, it proves punishment for evil deeds. Eves punishment (what about Adam) does not prove punishment for disbelief, it proves punishment for will full disobedience.
Until then... I wish you well.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
I CAN substantiate my claims, but since you CANT believe me..............no wonder you THINK I have not.
KEEP RUNNING from what you CANT beleive because you FEAR your very own God. What a better way to CONTROL someone other than FEAR! LOL
RUN forest, run!
drpsholder 2 years ago
>>I CAN substantiate my claims
So substantiate them already! Where in the Bible does it say that we will be punished for a lack of belief IN God?
Substantiate it or quit diggin your hole already!
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
I HAVE, but you CANT believe them for some strange reason.
Every time I do, since you CANT beleive me, will always reply that I did not. This is only because you will not admit that you CANT beleiv me. BUT WHY? Prove its fear for your own good! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
YEP and until you CAN understand that you CANT believe me. I will not be posting any more messages to you.
You just CANT understand. But you never helped me figure out WHY you CANT understand?? WHO is going to punish you if you believe me??? Ahhhhhhhh, no wonder you CANT! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
yet another comment that proves my point... thank you.
I can't believe you because you don't know what it is you are talking about. If you could substantiate your claims, you would have by now.
Now who is running, Gump? I'm starting to feel sorry for you.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
I can't believe you because you don't know what it is you are talking about"
You CANT think I know what I am talking about. BUT WHY CAN"T YOU!! Is someone going to punish you if you do? HUH LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
back to the same bull huh?
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
YEP, until you CAN believe me, but I don't think that will ever happen when your very own God will punish you if you do. SORRY he controls you so much, but you CANT admit that he does. SAD! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
If you could substantiate your claims, you would have by now."
WHAHAHAH I have FOOL, but there is something keeping you from believing me. I wonder what that is???? PUnishment maybe. By your very own God too? LOL SAD, very SAD! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
Im the fool? okie dokie... better a fool than a liar i guess
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
>>IF I DISPROVE your beliefs
But you have NOT ;)
Where is this proof? Your illogical, non-biblical circle, that you keep harping about is not proof of anything except your lack of understanding of scripture. Stop harping and running in circles, think about what you are trying to say before you say it and you will see the flaw in your logic. The flaw is that you are saying God will punish me for disbelief when no where in the Bible does it say that.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
>>IF I DISPROVE your beliefs
But you have NOT ;)
I have, but you CANT beleive it. End of conversation. Im tired of repeating and child antics! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
I am so glad I didn't know you in high school or college...
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Hey dingleberry.... notice he wasn't punishing for disbelief in those situations.... wake up and smell what the rock is cookin .... no one is going to punish for unbelief, he will punish for evil deads
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
But beliefs cause action, not a lack of beliefs.
Since beliefs cause you to ACT, can you attribute an action to a belief? YES. So, disobeying God is done because you don't believe in him, I wonder if this ACTION of disobeying is related to what you BELIEVE. LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
Adam and Eve CLEARLY believed in God, they spoke with him DIRECTLY.. So, their willful disobedience had absolutely nothing to do with belief or disbelief... it was a cause of their willful disobedience and self gratification, same as yours (an Atheist) and mine (a Christian) is.... again your logic is flawed beyond repair
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Really, So, EVE beleived God when he said not to eat the apple. NO BROTHER!!!
She did not believe him, therefore she ate the apple! SEE how NOT believing IN HIM or HIM will get you punished. LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
>>Really, So, EVE beleived God when he said not to eat the apple. NO BROTHER!!!
NOW YOU ARE TWISTING! hahaha
First you said "believe IN God"... and now you are saying "believe God" those are two very different statements... believing IN something means you believe it exists... believing someone means that you trust what they tell you.
Twisting your own words now... proof #3 of your false logic and poor debate skills
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
WHAHAHAH!@
SEE, you CANT understand the relationship i made. But WHY CANT you. WHO is going to punish you if you do??????? LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
what relationship? the one where you twisted your words? fine example then... stellar performance, really bravo, always good to see a guy that cant admit that he has defeated himself. I didnt defeat you, you defeated yourself... now you have no one to blame but you.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
NOT believing God got Eve punished, right???
NOT believing IN God will get you punished too, RIGHT???????????
HUH??? LOL SEE the relationship NOW!!! Im sure you do, but will have a very hard time admitting. WATCH! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
Already answered this... read
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Already proved your answer is wrong, but why can't you believe me.
Go back and read again!
drpsholder 2 years ago
oh ive read it quite enough thank you.... Ive seen you snake your way around every flaw in your argument... its pretty impressive to watch you
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
SEE the Christians have it all wrong. They think that a lack of belief in a God causes people to act OUTSIDE of what God wants.
Lack of belief in God, causes you to murder. Eve's lack of belief lead to her eating the apple.
These beliefs CAUSE actions that are worthy of punishment.
drpsholder 2 years ago
No, everyone acts outside of what God wants, including Christians... that proves your lack of fundamental understanding of the subject matter. >>Lack of belief in God, causes you to murder.
are you a murderer? once again, basic english a lack of belief IN God is not a lack of belief in what God told her... Do they speak English in Georgia?
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
No, everyone acts outside of what God wants, including Christians... .
Twisting the overall meaning of what I was saying will never allow you to understand. But WHY do you do it? Is someone going to punish you if you believe me?? Thor or your very own God?
Since he will punish you, no wonder you CANT and will TWIST what I say to keep from believing me. It will work eachtime you do it brother. I guarantee!
drpsholder 2 years ago
sad really sad.... I was correcting the flaw in your "overall meaning" you can falsify reality all you want to make it fit your argument, but when someone points it out you accuse them of twisting your words.... when you twist your own words, you defeat yourself... you fight too hard, for too long, and then you get stuck in your own faulty logic circle and get confused about what you are saying... I feel bad for you
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
SAD really that I point out the logical flaws in your religion, but punishment will not allow you to SEE it.
YOu just CANT and the more you keep writing without undersanding this, the more it proves you CANT, which proves I speak the truth! LOL SAD, huh?
drpsholder 2 years ago
You have displayed a lack of basic knowledge in Genesis, the 1st book of the Bible, if you didnt get through the 1st book and understand it, Im sure you didnt understand the rest of it either. If you don't understand the Bible, you cant understand my religion, if you cant understand my religion you have no foundation to say there is a logical flaw in it.
Im workin on that video now by the way ;)
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
what relationship? the one where you twisted your words?"
The ONE that is very easy to SEE if you don't twist my words! K. But WHY do you do it?? WHO is guiding you??? WHO is causing you to NOT believe me??? WHY can't you understand my logic, nor prove me wrong??? HUH
drpsholder 2 years ago
Im not twisting your words, but yes maybe you are right... if i was a red neck from Augusta, or a product of inbreeding I could see your easy "proof". But unfortunately Im neither of those things so all I see is faulty logic and flat out lies... funny how the only comment you ignored of mine dealt with exposing your lie in a video... pretty swift move there guy
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
WHAHA! When you CANT prove me wrong, you will resort to picking on me personally.
SADLY, I was not born in augusta, so this throws your REDNECK, byproduct of inbreeding ASSUMPTION out the window, huh? Ooops! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
Hey, when in Rome....
You might not have been BORN in Augusta, but you sure the heck LIVE in Augusta, unless that is a lie on your other account profile.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Yes, I live in Augusta, but this is NOT MY HOME TOWN.
Second of all, ad hominem attacks at someones PERSON proves you can't refute what I am trying to tell you, so you need an OUT! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
NOW your just being belligerent and until you can calm down and handle yourself like a decent human. This convo is over.
Sound familiar brother? I love it! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
Yep sounds real familiar... thought I would see how you enjoy getting a taste of your own medicine... sucks don't it... got you thinkin about a video and how its going to show how you accuse people of doing things to "run away" when they never did... maybe Moohamad would like to see the video
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Maybe Mooohamad is scared of the video and is not willing to watch it for FEAR of not being able to prove what I say wrong.
When he CANT do that, he will have no reason to NOT believe me. So, no wonder many people RUN!
drpsholder 2 years ago
Im sure he did watch it, but couldnt comment because you had blocked him, or at least thats what the president would show
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
NOT believing God caused Eve to eat the apple, which got her punished, RIGHT?????
NOT believing IN God will cause God to punish you, RIGHT???
SEE what I mean. It really is very simple, but since you CANT understand the simple, you must be STUPID. Brother, I tried to make you admit it was FEAR and you could have proved it was FEAR. But since you SAY it can't be FEAR, then it must be stupidity! You should have proved FEAR! LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
>>NOT believing God caused Eve to eat the apple, which got her punished, RIGHT?????
>>NOT believing IN God will cause God to punish you, RIGHT???
Those two statements have nothing at all in common. 1.) Yes, not believing God caused Eve to eat the apple and get punished 2.) No, God punishes for willfully disobeying, not disbelief.
You must be 2 bricks short of a full load if you think those 2 statements have any relationship to one another.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
WHAHAHAH!
BOTH were punished. Yes or no? WHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA
Yes they were BOTH punished brother, that is the COMMON. WHAHAHAHAHAA
drpsholder 2 years ago
Yes they were both punished for WILLFUL DISOBEDIENCE... not a lack of belief which is where your faulty line of reason started at
You lookin forward to that video?
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
But since ACTIONS come from BELIEFS, not a lack of beliefs...............what caused EVE to eat the apple.
Eve lacked a belief in God, which caused her to eat the apple right???? This caused God to punish her, because she did not believe, which lead her to eat the apple!
drpsholder 2 years ago
no, obviously not because your actions come from a lack of beliefs.... you are living proof that your statement is false!
>>Eve lacked a belief in God, which caused her
No she didnt lack belief IN God, she was tempted into believing something contrary to what God had told her... very big difference, she wasnt and atheist, she believed IN God. He punished her for eating the apple, not for being and atheist
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Which CAUSED her not to believe GOD's order, right??????
She LACKED a belief because she was tempted by a serpent. But sadly a lack of belief does not cause you to act; therefore the whole freaking story is illogical.
drpsholder 2 years ago
Ive already proven you wrong on this one, maybe you should stop before you really get embarassed
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
I never said she was an ATHEIST.
I said she ate the apple because she BELIEVED God's orders or because she did NOT believe God's orders???? HUH??
drpsholder 2 years ago
>>I said she ate the apple because she BELIEVED God's orders or because she did NOT believe God's orders?
Did you?? Lets see....
>>Eve lacked a belief in God, which caused her to eat the apple right????
Nope thats not what you said.... you said "lacked a belief IN God"... your own definition of an atheist is a person who lacks a belief IN God. Therefor... you said she was an ATHEIST.... Seriously you have drain bramage ;)
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Lacked a belief IN God...........lacked a belief IN God's word.
You are just taking me too literally to keep from understanding the rudimentary relationshiop that joins the two. WHY?? Will someone punish you if you believe me and DISbelieve in him??? WHO? LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
I am sorry... I didn't know I had to not take the English meaning of the words you speak into consideration. I should have dumbed down so I could understand your argument clearly.
A better idea would be for you to think about what you want to convey in your message BEFORE you type it!
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Either way brother..............SHE LACKED a belief IN God, for if she BELIEVED God, she would not have eaten the apple, right?? LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
Oh so if you dont believe Gods word, then you are an atheist right? I thought you said she wasnt an atheist....
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
You have already dug a hole that you can't get out of drpsholder (drop-shoulder? is that anything like a hunchback?) So please keep on digging, its fun to what people who bully Christians and Muslims for believing IN God, defeat themselves.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
But a lack of beliefs does not cause you to act. A set of beliefs does CAUSE you to act.
So, Eve did not act because she lacked a belief in God, Eve at the apply because of her beliefs.
drpsholder 2 years ago
Once again, you lack belief in God and you are acting on it... right now... as we speak... proof that your statement is 100% false.
>>NOT believing God caused Eve to eat the apple,
>>So, Eve did not act because she lacked a belief in God, Eve at the apply because of her beliefs.
Proof that you are twisting your own words
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
RIght a lack of beliefs in a God will not cause you to ACT, in reality.
But according to the Bible, since Eve BELIEVED God, she ate the apple, right???? WHAHAHA NO brother. SEE how Christians try to promote that because she did not believe God, she ate the apple, but this is FALSE in the face of reality! LOL SAD, huh?
drpsholder 2 years ago
>>RIght a lack of beliefs in a God will not cause you to ACT, in reality
Yes - it - will, you are an atheist, you are acting.... but maybe you are right, maybe you arent in reality.
>>But according to the Bible, since Eve BELIEVED God, she ate the apple, right?
No, that isnt right... because Eve believed the serpent she at the apple.... but she believed IN God.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
And Im acting based on my BELIEFS, not my lack of beliefs. WHAHA! Maybe you are just too dumb to understand what I am trying to teach you. Or it could be FEAR. But leaning to stupidity, since you say its not FEAR.
drpsholder 2 years ago
>>And Im acting based on my BELIEFS,
So now you are contradicting your own video where you say "atheists do not have beliefs"
Maybe you are just to dumb to remember what you say. Might be all the pot you smoke dulling your brain cells
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
I never said atheists do not have beliefs, unless I was referring to HOW Christians THINK we have no beliefs.
Being an atheist, by mere self limitation of the definition, does not and cannot give you any clue as to WHAT atheist believes, for the term can only show a LACK of belief.
drpsholder 2 years ago
>>I never said atheists do not have beliefs, unless I was referring to HOW Christians THINK we have no beliefs.
You need to watch your own video, because you do in fact say that.
>>for the term can only show a LACK of belief.
a lack of belief in God... be specific Theist is a belief in God, Atheist is a lack of belief in God, but generally self proclaimed atheists believe in science. Science being a religion by your own definition in your video, makes atheism a sect of that religion.
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
Right, she did not believe God, she believed the serpent.
OF WHICH GOT HER PUNISHED????? RIGHT!!
SEE, her lack of belief caused her to eat the apple, right?? NO, since in reality a lack of beliefs does not cause you to act. LOL
drpsholder 2 years ago
>>a lack of beliefs does not cause you to act.
>>NOT believing God caused Eve to eat the apple,
>>So, Eve did not act because she lacked a belief in God, Eve at the apply because of her beliefs.
Contradiction after contradiction
TheCrazygaijin 2 years ago
A lack of beliefs does not cause you to act - reality.
Not believing in God caused Even to eat the apple - Christians believe.
So, Eve did not act because she lacked a beleif in God, Eve acted because of her beleifs. TWIST, TWIST, TWIST, but why do you do it? HUH?
drpsholder 2 years ago
And I proved right here, by EXPLAINING in full sentences of how this is not a contradiction.
You TWISTED my words to keep from believing me. But I don't blame you. The FEAR of punishment from a God would keep me lying too! Every single time!
drpsholder 2 years ago