if you really want to learn about swords factually search "The weapons that made Britain" with mike loades. hes a military expert and trained in multiple forms of medieval combat weapons. its alot more factual and accurate than this
@DunkleSpieluhr : There were MA manuals all the way back through the greeks. And art of war is a MA. Though, the fight is useless because they have no clue what they are doing, and seems to be having trouble finding the strength needed to fight in armor.
@mechupanlamonda You are kidding right? Why use cover when you have kevlar then? Armour is a last resort defence... of course with shield and proper training you can reflect most blows but still some of it gonna go over your stance and punch you in the guts and thats why they best go together.
@MK88N0M4D first, when plate armour was developed people left the shield aside. this allow for the knights to use two handed weapons, such as the bastard sword and later the longsword. you don't need a shield when using an plate armor. armor allows for more protection. and certainly, you don't need a shield with a longsword. i made the comment because the whole combat is wrong, there no technique at all. the shield is useless when someone is wearing full plate armor.
@mechupanlamonda Damn it you punch like a clymore. I can't even argue with that... really good point mate! Why i didn't see that its anyone guess but im not some sort of specialist so thanks for clearing that one for me. By the way technique here is shity that is a fact but i think these guys didn't have any experience in medieval fighting before that programe and they fight for points so that maybe can explain shields.
@mechupanlamonda Armour doesn't make you invincible and there are many interesting fighting technics with shield. And a shield could save you from a bolt.
@DunkleSpieluh i never say it was. there alot of techniques with shield, yet when full plate armour was developed the shield was useless. plate armour can save you from an arrow too.
@mechupanlamonda It can save you only if you are lucky. Otherwise an arrow can easy pierce a plate armour (especially with a crossbow).Furthermore, a shield can save you from a dagger, which is made to pierce armours.
@DunkleSpieluhr An arrow can easily pierce armour? That's just blatantly wrong... See, for example, /watch?v=D3997HZuWjk . Also - daggers made to pierce armour? Worst idea ever; if you are close enough to use a dagger, why would you ever try and pierce armour when you can go for the gaps instead? Armpit, groin, eyes... Further, odds are if your opponent is close enough to use their dagger, your shield is probably not much use.
Shield were effective, yes - but not for the reasons you said.
@DunkleSpieluhr an arrow can not pierce armour. and daggers can't not pierce armour, that's not possible. a small shield was used in duels, it was the rotella. however, it didn't have application in war, just in civilian duels. read before you post.
i wonder how much time a fighter can keep his strenght in this kind armor in real battle? i mean fighting with one guy and lets say you kill him after few min fighting and then another one come...you will probably be fucking exhausted
@NexusCool1 Most medieval battles did not go that long any way. I believe the longest one is one of the battles from 1066 and lasted about a day (in lighter amour as well). But normally one side gets the hand petty quickly and the other side realises and runs away/surrender/fight to the death as every one else does the above
@fredikazu On what planet are you getting your weapon weights from? A real hand-and-a-half longsword on average weighed between 2 and 3 lbs, a true 2-handed sword weighed closer to 5 lbs in real life... Don't believe everything you read in video games and the D&D player's handbook. Real weapons are much lighter. A full kit of late 15th century plate armor is about 60-70 lbs, and that's distributed over your entire body. Modern soldiers carry more gear than that strapped to their back.
@neosonic66 Earth. Since when has a hand&half sword been a great-sword? & I don't know about you but most people I know can't swing a 5-10 kilo sword around the place for the length of a fight effectively. Not only do you have to be able to lift it but you have to be able to stop it once you've got it going repeatedly. ps medieval knights had 'caravans' of luggage so no. Modern solider are MUCH lighter. Also just to clear things up I get my 'stuff' from history books because I'm an Archaeologist
@fredikazu Well I'm very sorry for your students... because great swords were not 5-10 kilograms on this planet. Yes, the knight had caravans of luggage, but those were supplies for campaign, not for literally wearing in to battle. The modern soldier wears more weight in to battle than any 15th century knight did. Have you every worn a historically accurate harness? The distribution of the plates make the weight minimally fatiguing.
@neosonic66 Yeah I have from across Europe. Also what planet are you from? you keep asking me but so far you think archaeologist are teachers and hand&half swords are classified with Great-swords? And a modern solider carries two days worth of supplies including the other stuff the knight doesn't carry himself. On the call of 'contact' the solider drops his pack and proceeds into the contact maneuvers. He doesn't carry that much weight in battle either he is not that stupid
@fredikazu Umm, no, I just gave an example that's specifically not a hand&half. It was a 2-handed 58 in. great-sword, 2.1 kilos... not 5-10 kg like you claim. I just find it hard to believe your familiar with the effect that proper weight distribution has when wearing hardened steel form fitted to your body. It's simply not that heavy. That, and your profile shows your age as 18, which again, makes me question the validity of any of your claims, but I'll be fair and assume that's in error.
@neosonic66 What about Pier Gerlofs Donia zwiehander, that's 6 kilos. Admittedly my range is a little out because I was just roughly converting Imperial-metric. Also the upper end of my scale is just there to accommodate all types of great swords. But you seem to think age matters? How? You are 29, so? You are trying to discredited me on my age. I have read more history then most people your age. Also most people I know can't swing an pic or axe properly let alone a sword.
@fredikazu Well, age matters when you claim to be an archaeologist at 18... Making that claim implies some sort of higher education which most 18 year olds wouldn't have. Anyway, I will agree that in this clip, the use of shields is quite ridiculous, and in reality they would be using longswords optimized for the thrust with stiffened blades and half-swording techniques to go at each other. As for the weights of great swords, we'll have to agree to disagree.
@neosonic66 Yeah or depending on where they are from they might also use a mace or a type of pole-arm. But your right that on average most people don't become archaeologist after leaving school. I'm one of the youngest in the course and you start doing archaeological digs or what ever you specialize in by the second year
@fredikazu That sword is SAID to have belonged to Pier Gerlof Donia, who is SAID to have been a huge man with superhuman strength. 6 kgs is really on the upper end of what any usable Zweihänder would be. There are heavier swords, but they are carrying swords, ie. ceremonial swords.
@fredikazu Albion Swords makes the Dane, a 58'' (147cm) sword painstakingly reconstructed from the handling of countless historical originals by Peter Johnsson, famed swordsmith. It weighs exactly 4lbs 10oz, or 2.1 kilos... It's a true two-hander, not a hand&half.
@neosonic66 That sword is a bit dubious: 1 it's a not a replica. 2 it is very shiny, which makes me question the type of steel it's made from and 3 there is very little showing you how it was made. Just a single picture on another page of a forge. Also it's set on Danish models, who were most noted on doing what in the 15th century? But this is getting of topic, I was talking about the historical accuracy of their gear. Metal bucklers, Broadswords and Plate mail. None of them really relate well
@fredikazu A few nitpicks: it's plate armour, not "plate mail". Maille is what you might know as "chainmail", and nothing else. There is plate AND maille, but "plate mail" does not exist. Also, the Danes were one of the main European powers in the 15th century, so I have no idea why you would be dissing them. The Danes used the same equipment as other European nations, at any rate, which makes your dismissal doubly odd.
@fredikazu well not exactly, true full plated knights were using greatswords and broads mostly, especially from horseback, however there were still a great deal of foot soldiers and peasents in combat who certainly wielded shields in combination with flails, maces and such..of course i agree that knights wouldnt wield shields regularly so i think this was made for safety reasons only. to the user above who said great swords and claymores are for too heavy...they are not.
The broadsword can be easily defeated if you have a closer battle instance, the blade isn't the only part of a sword. Small distraction strikes will open the broadsword's man (?) defence, and there he was no chance.
I would've dropped the stupid shield and just used my "broadsword" (ugh) with halfsword technique. Of course in the last round they have no shields anyway, so I don't know why they didn't learn any real armored fencing moves...
These guys arent even using real medieval martial art stances and techniques. In real armored combat, they are MUCH more violent in movement and hits.
@mouthforwar17 actually it allows you to build up the maximum amount of momentum, especially for a strike coming towards your dominant side. If you are right handed and make a cut from left to right, you cannot move your shoulder as far as from right to left. If you move fast enough, your opponent will not have time to register that your back is turned before he enters the range of your attack. That said, I'm curious if martial artists or trained fighters ever use a move like that.
@EvilDanHalen no ive never seen a spinning move in examples of talhoffer or any other old medieval martial art reference...spinning attacks are just popularized by hollywood.
@mouthforwar17 Spinning attacks work in fist combat, but only with good timing. A spinning back fist or spinning kick will do a lot of damage if you can hit with them. It works well in MMA, but the extra distance in sword combat would make it easier to spot and defend against. It would be a strong blow if you could hit with it.
@demomanchaos i know that ive trained in tae kwan do for a long time and recieved my black belt at age 14. i still dont think spinning attacks are any good in sword combat
Do a search on youtube for "armour aerobics." That armor is fairly easy to move around in. The weight is well-distributed around the body, There are accounts of medieval knights vaulting onto their horses or doing cartwheels. Combat armor was about protection and mobility. Now, tournament armor, the stuff they jousted in, that's another story...
I am highly suspect of these vaulting and cartwheels you speak of. I am not any form of expert but I have worn replica chainmail and that alone reduces mobility, far less for whatever else these fighters are wearing. Again, I am not an expert and I could be wrong, but my own experience is being weighted down and finding that wearing and moving with that kind of armour is ... taxing..to say the least.
Now chainmail is heavy. I've worn that at SCA events and that is miserable to stand in, much less move in. Especially when combined with a quilted jack. Plate armor is much easier to move in -- part of the reason for its popularity. The main drawback to plate is that it is very hot. A lot of fighters were felled due to heatstroke wearing that stuff. I'm not an expert, either -- merely an enthusiast.
@gratch2222 My point was: the way they use the sword in this "reenactment" is not realistic. A rapier and main gauche were invented hundreds of years later, and were not meant for plate encased targets. The most effective way to use a broadsword is to go for the weakpoints in enemy's armor, by stabbing at his armpit, visor, knee cuf. You are right in 1 point: yes, a broadsword could be used as a club to "bend" the armor, in order to create concussion damage to the target.
Medieaval armour, weaponry and tactics are interesting. It's great to be living in Europe wading waist-deep in history and culture with castles all over the place. Love it!
This fights are bullshit hollywood style. You wouldnt cut with a sword on plate, you would STAB with it at the weakpoints . Check videos with Michael Loades as host, he's the real master.
@Zamolxes77 The Idea isn't to cut it but to bend it with massive strikes from the heavy blade of the broadsword. Your talking about Rapier and main gouge and it had its weakness as well.
@Gratch2222 You can't bend armor in, the real, well made armor anyway. And swords were not heavy, it's a myth that gets reinforced in this how... I hate it for this. You crush armor with a mace or pollaxe, sword is for striking in the gaps of armor. And I also hate how he calls arming swords broadswords. It's like calling all katanas sabres or all curved in swords khopises, it's a misnomer invented by Victorian writers.
@Ranziel1 You don't understand, When I say Heavy blade I mean more substantial in terms of width and weighted heavier on the end to bash with, Sword Manuals demonstrate how to use the pommel end as a club, and to find weak spots on the armor to bash and create a breech. And there Several kinds of armor, Assuming every target is plate is making the same mistake your accusing other people of making.
@protherium: thats not right. u have to have both. talhoffer for example has written his book for judicial duels and in this books fighting is like dancing, but if you go fullcontact (in armor) you have to be tough and skilled and its just fucking brutal and exhausting (and awesome!)
And again the obsolete myth of "brute strength" with blunt swords weighting 20 pounds. Yes, real medieval combat WAS ABOUT precision and skill. Sources; fighting manuals written between 1300 and 1650. Grandmaster Johannes Liechtenauer, Doebringer, Talhoffer, Peter von Danzig, Lekuechner, Fiore Dei Liberi, and the author of Manuscript I.33 were real masters, of real martial arts.
Popular myths and fantasy, nothing more is seen in this show.
What are you on about man? It's just a show. I'm not gonna argue with you on any of the other stuff, but he said "It isn't JUST about skill," which is obviously the truth. No myth peddling in that. If your gonna quote someone, be accurate.
1). One handed swords shaped like Oakeshott Type XII or XIV with a round shield and wearing renaissance plate armour at the same time. That's a big bunch of anachronisms!
2). Armoured combat described in "Fechtbuchs" was competely different! They used longswords of Type XV-XVIII and tried to pierce armour at its weakest points. It was more like skillfull wrestling with longsword than bashing at each other.
This is so dumb, I sincerely hope that no one watching this thinks that this is how these weapons were used.
APSHEK 1 week ago
I think the longsword is the king of weapons.
battletoads22 1 week ago
The British guy was very humble while the American was fairly arrogant.
Domo230 1 week ago
2:21 that's me on th e left
aznguy11111 2 weeks ago
great plate armor
hymridon20 3 weeks ago
AMERICA
PhalangitePower 1 month ago
I really want to comment but all i can say thats polite is PANTS!!!!!
MrMarkAnnable 1 month ago
I am a sword expert. I am profficient in fighting with almost any weapon. Thats how i make a living
Silverhatman 1 month ago
@Silverhatman Wow ur so awesome!
ixboxmart12 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
if you really want to learn about swords factually search "The weapons that made Britain" with mike loades. hes a military expert and trained in multiple forms of medieval combat weapons. its alot more factual and accurate than this
ReligionSickensMe616 2 months ago
how the fuck did i get here?
...damn recommended videos
mrbrad455 2 months ago
They don't know how to fight...
And I'm not sure if we can include the XVIth century in MA... So this fight is useless.
DunkleSpieluhr 2 months ago
@DunkleSpieluhr : There were MA manuals all the way back through the greeks. And art of war is a MA. Though, the fight is useless because they have no clue what they are doing, and seems to be having trouble finding the strength needed to fight in armor.
Halofreakanoid 1 month ago
waaah - dont turn whilst fighting :S worst thing you can do.
love this show though :D
GermanSwordMaster 2 months ago
I still love this series for the same reason I enjoy Deadliest warrior-lot of inaccuracies, but it's a lot of fun.
Tareltonlives 3 months ago 11
I've never seen any kind of large iron bucklers like those before. When you're wearing plate, a smaller wooden shield will suffice.
Tareltonlives 3 months ago
why use shield when you have armour?
mechupanlamonda 4 months ago
@mechupanlamonda You are kidding right? Why use cover when you have kevlar then? Armour is a last resort defence... of course with shield and proper training you can reflect most blows but still some of it gonna go over your stance and punch you in the guts and thats why they best go together.
MK88N0M4D 4 months ago
@MK88N0M4D first, when plate armour was developed people left the shield aside. this allow for the knights to use two handed weapons, such as the bastard sword and later the longsword. you don't need a shield when using an plate armor. armor allows for more protection. and certainly, you don't need a shield with a longsword. i made the comment because the whole combat is wrong, there no technique at all. the shield is useless when someone is wearing full plate armor.
mechupanlamonda 4 months ago
@mechupanlamonda Damn it you punch like a clymore. I can't even argue with that... really good point mate! Why i didn't see that its anyone guess but im not some sort of specialist so thanks for clearing that one for me. By the way technique here is shity that is a fact but i think these guys didn't have any experience in medieval fighting before that programe and they fight for points so that maybe can explain shields.
MK88N0M4D 4 months ago
@mechupanlamonda Armour doesn't make you invincible and there are many interesting fighting technics with shield. And a shield could save you from a bolt.
DunkleSpieluhr 2 months ago
@DunkleSpieluh i never say it was. there alot of techniques with shield, yet when full plate armour was developed the shield was useless. plate armour can save you from an arrow too.
mechupanlamonda 2 months ago
@mechupanlamonda It can save you only if you are lucky. Otherwise an arrow can easy pierce a plate armour (especially with a crossbow).Furthermore, a shield can save you from a dagger, which is made to pierce armours.
The shield is also very useful.
DunkleSpieluhr 2 months ago
@DunkleSpieluhr An arrow can easily pierce armour? That's just blatantly wrong... See, for example, /watch?v=D3997HZuWjk . Also - daggers made to pierce armour? Worst idea ever; if you are close enough to use a dagger, why would you ever try and pierce armour when you can go for the gaps instead? Armpit, groin, eyes... Further, odds are if your opponent is close enough to use their dagger, your shield is probably not much use.
Shield were effective, yes - but not for the reasons you said.
Mistwraith99 2 months ago
@DunkleSpieluhr an arrow can not pierce armour. and daggers can't not pierce armour, that's not possible. a small shield was used in duels, it was the rotella. however, it didn't have application in war, just in civilian duels. read before you post.
mechupanlamonda 2 months ago
i would rather used a metal kanabo back then
StoreslemLilleslem 4 months ago
Give me a sword, i could beat chris
gamerjames926 8 months ago
@gamerjames926
not in full armour
it really is heavy to fight
with.
wanderdark666 1 month ago
i wonder how much time a fighter can keep his strenght in this kind armor in real battle? i mean fighting with one guy and lets say you kill him after few min fighting and then another one come...you will probably be fucking exhausted
NexusCool1 8 months ago
@NexusCool1 Most medieval battles did not go that long any way. I believe the longest one is one of the battles from 1066 and lasted about a day (in lighter amour as well). But normally one side gets the hand petty quickly and the other side realises and runs away/surrender/fight to the death as every one else does the above
fredikazu 8 months ago
i wuld rather used a mace vs plate armor than a sword
StoreslemLilleslem 8 months ago
Chris gets 3,4,5 hits...if u r gonna count them like this u should gave counted Jons 3d hit at 3:58...fags
Jon team! :D
immortaliserwow 9 months ago
Hollywood stunt men do not warriors make. I really would prefer if they drew men from various martial arts backgrounds, including medieval fencing.
Lukos0036 9 months ago
@Lukos0036 these are martial artists
iamnobodyism 9 months ago
Why a late Medieval knights using shields??? They stopped using shields when they developed full plate armour, like they are wearing
fredikazu 9 months ago
@fredikazu for effect i suppose
iamnobodyism 8 months ago
@iamnobodyism I guess they probably can't wield a proper great sword either. Way to heavy for most modern Humans to lift let alone swing effectively.
fredikazu 8 months ago
@fredikazu On what planet are you getting your weapon weights from? A real hand-and-a-half longsword on average weighed between 2 and 3 lbs, a true 2-handed sword weighed closer to 5 lbs in real life... Don't believe everything you read in video games and the D&D player's handbook. Real weapons are much lighter. A full kit of late 15th century plate armor is about 60-70 lbs, and that's distributed over your entire body. Modern soldiers carry more gear than that strapped to their back.
neosonic66 8 months ago
@neosonic66 Earth. Since when has a hand&half sword been a great-sword? & I don't know about you but most people I know can't swing a 5-10 kilo sword around the place for the length of a fight effectively. Not only do you have to be able to lift it but you have to be able to stop it once you've got it going repeatedly. ps medieval knights had 'caravans' of luggage so no. Modern solider are MUCH lighter. Also just to clear things up I get my 'stuff' from history books because I'm an Archaeologist
fredikazu 8 months ago
@fredikazu Well I'm very sorry for your students... because great swords were not 5-10 kilograms on this planet. Yes, the knight had caravans of luggage, but those were supplies for campaign, not for literally wearing in to battle. The modern soldier wears more weight in to battle than any 15th century knight did. Have you every worn a historically accurate harness? The distribution of the plates make the weight minimally fatiguing.
neosonic66 8 months ago
@neosonic66 Yeah I have from across Europe. Also what planet are you from? you keep asking me but so far you think archaeologist are teachers and hand&half swords are classified with Great-swords? And a modern solider carries two days worth of supplies including the other stuff the knight doesn't carry himself. On the call of 'contact' the solider drops his pack and proceeds into the contact maneuvers. He doesn't carry that much weight in battle either he is not that stupid
fredikazu 8 months ago
@fredikazu Umm, no, I just gave an example that's specifically not a hand&half. It was a 2-handed 58 in. great-sword, 2.1 kilos... not 5-10 kg like you claim. I just find it hard to believe your familiar with the effect that proper weight distribution has when wearing hardened steel form fitted to your body. It's simply not that heavy. That, and your profile shows your age as 18, which again, makes me question the validity of any of your claims, but I'll be fair and assume that's in error.
neosonic66 8 months ago
@neosonic66 What about Pier Gerlofs Donia zwiehander, that's 6 kilos. Admittedly my range is a little out because I was just roughly converting Imperial-metric. Also the upper end of my scale is just there to accommodate all types of great swords. But you seem to think age matters? How? You are 29, so? You are trying to discredited me on my age. I have read more history then most people your age. Also most people I know can't swing an pic or axe properly let alone a sword.
fredikazu 8 months ago
@fredikazu Well, age matters when you claim to be an archaeologist at 18... Making that claim implies some sort of higher education which most 18 year olds wouldn't have. Anyway, I will agree that in this clip, the use of shields is quite ridiculous, and in reality they would be using longswords optimized for the thrust with stiffened blades and half-swording techniques to go at each other. As for the weights of great swords, we'll have to agree to disagree.
neosonic66 8 months ago
@neosonic66 Yeah or depending on where they are from they might also use a mace or a type of pole-arm. But your right that on average most people don't become archaeologist after leaving school. I'm one of the youngest in the course and you start doing archaeological digs or what ever you specialize in by the second year
fredikazu 8 months ago
@fredikazu That sword is SAID to have belonged to Pier Gerlof Donia, who is SAID to have been a huge man with superhuman strength. 6 kgs is really on the upper end of what any usable Zweihänder would be. There are heavier swords, but they are carrying swords, ie. ceremonial swords.
Gilmaris 7 months ago
@fredikazu Albion Swords makes the Dane, a 58'' (147cm) sword painstakingly reconstructed from the handling of countless historical originals by Peter Johnsson, famed swordsmith. It weighs exactly 4lbs 10oz, or 2.1 kilos... It's a true two-hander, not a hand&half.
neosonic66 8 months ago
@neosonic66 That sword is a bit dubious: 1 it's a not a replica. 2 it is very shiny, which makes me question the type of steel it's made from and 3 there is very little showing you how it was made. Just a single picture on another page of a forge. Also it's set on Danish models, who were most noted on doing what in the 15th century? But this is getting of topic, I was talking about the historical accuracy of their gear. Metal bucklers, Broadswords and Plate mail. None of them really relate well
fredikazu 8 months ago
@fredikazu A few nitpicks: it's plate armour, not "plate mail". Maille is what you might know as "chainmail", and nothing else. There is plate AND maille, but "plate mail" does not exist. Also, the Danes were one of the main European powers in the 15th century, so I have no idea why you would be dissing them. The Danes used the same equipment as other European nations, at any rate, which makes your dismissal doubly odd.
Gilmaris 7 months ago
@Gilmaris is their any chance that by "Plate mail" he means a coat of plates?
1169Timothy 7 months ago
@fredikazu well not exactly, true full plated knights were using greatswords and broads mostly, especially from horseback, however there were still a great deal of foot soldiers and peasents in combat who certainly wielded shields in combination with flails, maces and such..of course i agree that knights wouldnt wield shields regularly so i think this was made for safety reasons only. to the user above who said great swords and claymores are for too heavy...they are not.
moroihunter 8 months ago
The broadsword can be easily defeated if you have a closer battle instance, the blade isn't the only part of a sword. Small distraction strikes will open the broadsword's man (?) defence, and there he was no chance.
Darkheaven0Warrior 9 months ago
I would've dropped the stupid shield and just used my "broadsword" (ugh) with halfsword technique. Of course in the last round they have no shields anyway, so I don't know why they didn't learn any real armored fencing moves...
LuciusTheFair 10 months ago
Why do they keep trying to spin? It didn't work the first time. It didn't work the second time. Did they think the third time was a charm? lol
JohnRaptor 11 months ago
:)
188riccardo 11 months ago
These guys arent even using real medieval martial art stances and techniques. In real armored combat, they are MUCH more violent in movement and hits.
LaCosaNostra132 11 months ago
y the hell would u do a spinning strike..so stupid
mouthforwar17 11 months ago
@mouthforwar17 actually it allows you to build up the maximum amount of momentum, especially for a strike coming towards your dominant side. If you are right handed and make a cut from left to right, you cannot move your shoulder as far as from right to left. If you move fast enough, your opponent will not have time to register that your back is turned before he enters the range of your attack. That said, I'm curious if martial artists or trained fighters ever use a move like that.
EvilDanHalen 11 months ago
@EvilDanHalen no ive never seen a spinning move in examples of talhoffer or any other old medieval martial art reference...spinning attacks are just popularized by hollywood.
mouthforwar17 11 months ago
@mouthforwar17 Spinning attacks work in fist combat, but only with good timing. A spinning back fist or spinning kick will do a lot of damage if you can hit with them. It works well in MMA, but the extra distance in sword combat would make it easier to spot and defend against. It would be a strong blow if you could hit with it.
demomanchaos 9 months ago
@demomanchaos i know that ive trained in tae kwan do for a long time and recieved my black belt at age 14. i still dont think spinning attacks are any good in sword combat
mouthforwar17 9 months ago
shit
bogibogesz 11 months ago
Idiot in the Sallet didn't put his Visor down properly...
Narachadte 1 year ago
@Narachadte
He has a high bevor, so no need. Look at period art, a lot of soldiers are depicted with their sallets like that ^^
Metalheadyup 1 year ago
it does look cool
lrsimpson24 1 year ago
this looks REALLY fun
vk45de 1 year ago
Thank you so much for uploading these! Could you upload the "Duel" episode?
Bladepaw18 1 year ago
u can hit him with the flat of the blade
MrNateman89 1 year ago
I watched all the stuff. Now my verdict: Peter Woodward is a BULLSHIDO master!
There he can get his approbation:
-- bullshido (dot) n e t
Protherium 1 year ago 3
This is horrible for so many reasons. Shame on History Channel yet again for this garbage.
blossfechter 1 year ago
ur caca
lewisgunner1 1 year ago
A poor made video.
LinuxNavigator 1 year ago
Do a search on youtube for "armour aerobics." That armor is fairly easy to move around in. The weight is well-distributed around the body, There are accounts of medieval knights vaulting onto their horses or doing cartwheels. Combat armor was about protection and mobility. Now, tournament armor, the stuff they jousted in, that's another story...
steelcaress 1 year ago
@steelcaress
I am highly suspect of these vaulting and cartwheels you speak of. I am not any form of expert but I have worn replica chainmail and that alone reduces mobility, far less for whatever else these fighters are wearing. Again, I am not an expert and I could be wrong, but my own experience is being weighted down and finding that wearing and moving with that kind of armour is ... taxing..to say the least.
TheBloodswordsman 1 year ago
@TheBloodswordsman
Now chainmail is heavy. I've worn that at SCA events and that is miserable to stand in, much less move in. Especially when combined with a quilted jack. Plate armor is much easier to move in -- part of the reason for its popularity. The main drawback to plate is that it is very hot. A lot of fighters were felled due to heatstroke wearing that stuff. I'm not an expert, either -- merely an enthusiast.
steelcaress 1 year ago
@steelcaress
get fit and stronger !!! ppl think wearing these stuff in festivals, they can be true soldiers..its wrong!!!
DevilDr 1 year ago
My major complaints here are that the weakpoints in the armor were not mailed, also, the sallet of one of the fighters was not totally in place.
ronkadam 1 year ago
@ronkadam You're completely right, I was surprised that they let that pass, serious safety breeches.
uvkgn 1 year ago
@gratch2222 My point was: the way they use the sword in this "reenactment" is not realistic. A rapier and main gauche were invented hundreds of years later, and were not meant for plate encased targets. The most effective way to use a broadsword is to go for the weakpoints in enemy's armor, by stabbing at his armpit, visor, knee cuf. You are right in 1 point: yes, a broadsword could be used as a club to "bend" the armor, in order to create concussion damage to the target.
Zamolxes77 1 year ago 2
Medieaval armour, weaponry and tactics are interesting. It's great to be living in Europe wading waist-deep in history and culture with castles all over the place. Love it!
EJLSWE 1 year ago
That armor weghts more that 120 pounds, you chields, cant barely move, and 120 pountds without the shield and sword wich is also heavy
alex50555 1 year ago
@alex50555 The armour weighed about 65 pounds. The swords about 2.5. No one would be dumb enough to wear such heavy armour
temmy9 1 year ago
@temmy9 Jousting armor weighed about 120 pounds but it was just sport armor, Combat armor is around 60 but you could get by with 45 pounds.
Gratch2222 1 year ago
Fun but a waste of time as far as any historical value goes, no one would use swords like that against such heavy plate.
BarringtonDailey 1 year ago
@BarringtonDailey What do you mean? Knights Used Bastard swords all the time. Platemail was so good they didn't need a shield.
Gratch2222 1 year ago
ah they did good considering they have never don it before.
Cheeseitnow 1 year ago
This show is horrible for any historical value. They could've invited some good fighters from the SCA clubs, you don't even need to pay them.
Ranziel1 1 year ago
This fights are bullshit hollywood style. You wouldnt cut with a sword on plate, you would STAB with it at the weakpoints . Check videos with Michael Loades as host, he's the real master.
Zamolxes77 1 year ago
@Zamolxes77 The Idea isn't to cut it but to bend it with massive strikes from the heavy blade of the broadsword. Your talking about Rapier and main gouge and it had its weakness as well.
Gratch2222 1 year ago
@Gratch2222 You can't bend armor in, the real, well made armor anyway. And swords were not heavy, it's a myth that gets reinforced in this how... I hate it for this. You crush armor with a mace or pollaxe, sword is for striking in the gaps of armor. And I also hate how he calls arming swords broadswords. It's like calling all katanas sabres or all curved in swords khopises, it's a misnomer invented by Victorian writers.
Ranziel1 1 year ago
@Ranziel1 You don't understand, When I say Heavy blade I mean more substantial in terms of width and weighted heavier on the end to bash with, Sword Manuals demonstrate how to use the pommel end as a club, and to find weak spots on the armor to bash and create a breech. And there Several kinds of armor, Assuming every target is plate is making the same mistake your accusing other people of making.
Gratch2222 1 year ago
Damn, they were really amateurs.
avatarspirit57 1 year ago
@protherium: thats not right. u have to have both. talhoffer for example has written his book for judicial duels and in this books fighting is like dancing, but if you go fullcontact (in armor) you have to be tough and skilled and its just fucking brutal and exhausting (and awesome!)
klappspatenkamikaze 1 year ago
This was tight! I wish I had armor.
jeffdoeskungfu 1 year ago
@jeffdoeskungfu well, all you need is 1300$ to get a good armor, and like, about
3 months to finish it from a good smith haha xD
oly355 1 year ago
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Protherium 1 year ago
0:40
"It is not about skill"
And again the obsolete myth of "brute strength" with blunt swords weighting 20 pounds. Yes, real medieval combat WAS ABOUT precision and skill. Sources; fighting manuals written between 1300 and 1650. Grandmaster Johannes Liechtenauer, Doebringer, Talhoffer, Peter von Danzig, Lekuechner, Fiore Dei Liberi, and the author of Manuscript I.33 were real masters, of real martial arts.
Popular myths and fantasy, nothing more is seen in this show.
Protherium 1 year ago
@Protherium
What are you on about man? It's just a show. I'm not gonna argue with you on any of the other stuff, but he said "It isn't JUST about skill," which is obviously the truth. No myth peddling in that. If your gonna quote someone, be accurate.
ultrahero2115 1 year ago
This fight is so fake...
1). One handed swords shaped like Oakeshott Type XII or XIV with a round shield and wearing renaissance plate armour at the same time. That's a big bunch of anachronisms!
2). Armoured combat described in "Fechtbuchs" was competely different! They used longswords of Type XV-XVIII and tried to pierce armour at its weakest points. It was more like skillfull wrestling with longsword than bashing at each other.
Protherium 1 year ago
Ya thanks this is a really awesome show however some of the info is historically inaccurate.
Knightofthetruehorne 1 year ago
Thanks for post. really good show.
arthurleon1387 2 years ago
Chris looked like a Koopa Troopa with that helmet.
smellincoffee 2 years ago 2