Everyone lets get behind our president and continue to support him and re-elect Pres Obama and VP Biden in 2012! Pres Obama has accomplished about 80% of his 2008 campaign goals and he needs more time do the things needed for our country. Research things for yourself and vote wisely - I hope you will support Pres Obama in 2012! Make sure you are registered properly in your various states - voter surpression is going on in about 37 states which will or can stop people from voting.
No right wing shenanigans could save the republican on this night like in 2000. Obama flipped NINE red states from 2004. Thats nearly 1/5 the nation. What a total complete utter repudiation of the absolute failure of george w bush.
This is NOT going to happen next year. I predict Obama will lose Ohio - big! A whole lot of people are not going to buy that Obama shit in '12 - not with his LOUSY record as President. Hell, he never should have been elected in the first place (had NO record or real job; only elected because of HIS race). Plus, traditionally Republican states of Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina and New Hampshire are gonners for "His Emminence". Chris Mathew's "tingle" will turn to explosive diahrea! Big mess!
Obvious you still have sour grapes over Obama's win in 2008. You really believe the Republican Party did anything wonderful for people to vote against a Democratic candidate for president? You bring up his race for what reason? You are the one playing the race card. Don't count chickens before they hatch. I don't expect for Obama to win Ohio in 2012 because the economy will not have improved enough by Nov 2012 to win a swing state like Ohio.
@Mr40acresandamule Sorry honey, we all know the real racists are the Democrats (reference the '08 Dem primary when the Obama thugs even tagged Bill Clinton as a racist for simply mentioning Jesse Jackson winning SC primary in '84). Obama WAS elected in part because of his race & to pretend otherwise is moronic. McCain ran a LOUSY campaign & deserved to lose. He couldn't even rally the entire GOP to his side. As for Ohio, I did my research (polling data + '10 midterm election results bad for BO!)
@Mr40acresandamule As for sour grapes - don't lecture me or anyone else for being "sour" on our nation's incompetent, failed leadership (which has taken a bad situation & made it exponentially worse), 9.2% unemployment rate, sputtering economy & $15 trillion national debt (which Obama plans to increase by $1 trillion a year for the next 10 years!). Also, we had to deal with dirty libs & their sour grapes (and we are talkin SOUR) for 8 freakin years ('01-'09). Even after 9/11 they bitched!
You are so bitter and probably racial like I said. The problems of this economy are structural besides political. The financial sector and the structuring of our debt is the problem. It takes two to tango, but parties are the blame. So you believe a Republican conservative is gonna make it better? You have a right to believe that. I know it feels good to say I told you so with Obama. The extension of the Bush tax-cuts has not made the economy grow or produce a robust number of jobs.
@Mr40acresandamule Hypocrite! Don't call me a bitter racist with comments like your own. Besides, these old and pathetic liberal attacks don't work anymore. Your lame bunch tried this shit before last year's midterm elections - you know, not arguing the issues but simply attacking your opponents personally (like uh, calling them racists or "angry white men, clinging to their guns and religion" - you know, that dribble). Result: 65 seats lost in House; 6 in Senate. Please, try it next year too!
@Mr40acresandamule You are a racist, anti-American liberal (why? because I say so! isn't that the liberal logic?). The economic "structure?" - OK. Where was that excuse in '08 when a Republican was President? There's the hypocrisy. Obama has NO credibility when he attacks the GOP, the rich, small business owners, taxpayers, Christians, the "evil" oil industry, etc. HE said he would be "post-racial," "post-partisan." HE & his supporters are the most partisan racists in 50 years - & they know it!
@redletter2008 how has he attacked the rich? asking them to pay a lower rate than they did under reagan? he's proposed several tax breaks for small business that have been blocked by repubs. how has he attacked christians? or are you one of those who thinks he isn't christian. that would explain a lot. is it attacking the oil industry they shouldn't get taxpayer handouts while they're charging 4 bucks a gallon and hauling in record profits?
@tishhead Has most certainly "attacked" (more like demagogued) the rich since he came to office. Ask anyone that runs a small business if they believe the Obama administration to be pro or anti-business. He is - without a doubt - extremely hostile to business, people he "claims" are rich ($250 k p/yr.). I also don't know or give a rat's ass what his religion is (he IS whatever he needs to be depending on the group he's addressing). Old lib attack - "claim he's Christian or you are evil racist".
@redletter2008 i can't help what people as grotesquely ill-informed as you believe. he has signed 8 separate small business tax cuts and has been stopped by repubs on others. your definition of hostile to 250,000+ is to have them go back to clinton tax rates, when they were rolling in dough, lower than they paid for most of reagan admin. your discussion of his religion is repulsive. when has he ever said he was anything but christian?
@tishhead First, you know I am not ill-informed. If so you wouldn't bother arguing with me (which you've been doing repeatedly for days). Secondly, you can spout whatever Dem talking point you want, the FACTS are clear - the US economy is in an anemic (at best) recovery, with unemployment hovering at 9% for years, NO jobs are being created & people are scared. FACTS are not subject to your partisan, biased, deceptive interpretations - all aimed at re-electing the WORST President in decades!
@redletter2008 i'll argue with anyone. funny thing is, the thing that has made the last 2 jobs reports look as weak as they have is thing repubs have been longing for -- loss of public (govt) jobs. private jobs have grown for 8 straight months. the repubs are getting what they wanted. look at the polls and see who voters blame for the economy. and look at the what the polls say about the repubs' kill-medicare plan. good luck selling that in florida.
Oh.. wanted to add, what a lot of people might not remember about the moment when Ohio was called was that it had been a tense hour. The big swing states that were either candidate's pathway had not been called yet, and a lot of election-watchers were thinking it was taking a bit too long for comfort. Pennsylvania was called a bit early, but there wasn't a peep out of FL, MO, OH, NC, VA. When Ohio was finally called, everyone knew it was over. Thanks so much for posting this video!
@TavernWenchBlog They were being careful with those states you mentioned.
ABC and NBC called Pennsylvania immediately. It gave 2004 John Kerry a margin of 2.5% when he lost nationally by that much — an ID of D+5%. In 2008, it shifted D, like 44 other states, to flip the White House, and gave Obama a margin of 10%/11%. 60,000-plus votes rep a full % in Pa. So, there wasn't much difficulty in calling Pa.
Ohio was obvious once Hamilton County (Cincinnati) went blue — first time since 1964.
@CoolBlue71 remember at the end of the dem primaries when everyone was saying obama couldn't win the blue collars and the rust belt states? then he sweeps penn, ohio and indiana. i just wonder how the latino vote might put more states into play for him in 2012. i think arizona is definitely in play and with even minor improvements in the economy, the repubs are going to have to at least spend some money in texas.
@tishhead If Obama gets re-elected in 2012 and he were to flip/carry Arizona, it would likely be on the heels of the Republicans having nominated a bomb. If that were to happen, Obama doesn't lose one state and he gets a national shift that takes his 2008 margin of 7.26% and comes closer to 10% beyond that (usually, it's between 2.5% and 5%). In that case, single-digit-margins McCain states -- including Arizona (R+8.48%) -- flip. We'd see a 400-plus blowout in the Electoral College.
@tishhead Based on the Indiana Exit Polls, 4% of all voters were Latino, and they voted for Obama 77%-23%. Among white voters (89%), he only lost them 54%-45%, and won African-Americans (7%) by a 90%-10% margin, thus resulting in a 50%-49% state win.
@251to502 i'm not quite sure what your point was. indiana obviously isn't one of the states where latinos are a big factor. i'm thinking mostly of arizona coming into play while nevada, colorado and new mexico become more solidly blue. there are other states like georgia and montana that have growing latino populations. both states were pretty close in 08.
@tishhead Hispanics in Indiana were critical in having pulled Barack Obama across the finish line (winning it by more than 26,000 votes and a margin of 1.03%). The 44th president of the United States became the first Democrat to carry the Hoosier state since 1964 Lyndon Johnson.
@CoolBlue71 you are correct. i just checked the exit polls and it showed latinos as 4 percent of the vote, which is higher than i would have thought. i'm thinking that if indiana is even in play in 2012, the race is over.
I don't see Obama carrying Ohio in 2012 because the economy although will improve by Nov 2012. I don't think he can carry it for several reasons: unemployment will still be at least at 8.5%, Ohio has a Republican governor so he has deep influence over the political machinery there, and the healthcare bill still bothers people especially white working class voters who viewed it as welfare and an over reach of government..
Obama is not going to win Indiana again in 2012. Winning Indiana was a spill over effect because of Ohio and North Carolina. White vote for Obama was 45%. That will drop 10 points to 35% even if the economy is better. The reason I say that is because the youth vote won't come out for Obama in 2012 and the white working class in states like Indiana are still angry over the healthcare bill "Obama-care"
@Mr40acresandamule indiana might be a stretch, but ohio is definitely doable again. kasich has done severe damage to the repub brand. it ain't easy to get your approval rating down to 30 within 6 months of taking office. and i don't the healthcare reform will be as big an issue as the repubs attempts to eliminate medicare.
@tishhead It will likely be those very "rust belt" blue collar types that will seal Obama's defeat next year. Despite McCain's lousy, pointless campaign (which failed to rally the entire GOP to his side) he still won 173 electoral votes & 20 states. Obama (riding a tide of dissatisfaction with Bush, the financial crises & 2 wars) won traditionally "red" states of Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado + swing states of Ohio & Florida. Dems already believe IN, VA, NC & OH are gonners!
@redletter2008 1. you think that was a good showing for mccain? 20 states is close to the minimum for any repub. 2. virginia and colorado are no longer traditionally repub. dems have won several statewide va elections and colorado, with the latino vote, is on its way to being longterm blue. 3. ohio? they tried going back to repubs and now kasich has a 30 approval rating. 30. in 6 months. that's almost impossible to do. good luck to repubs running on elimination of medicare.
@tishhead Considering Dem's '80 nominee (incumbent President Carter) only won 6 states; "72 & '84 nominees McGovern/Mondale won only one state each - yeah TWENTY states is good! '08 was an awful year for the GOP - having controlled the WH for 8 years (+ Congress for 6 of those), they were historically headed for defeat to Obama or Clinton. Plus McCain ran an atrocious campaign. 2012 is looking more like '80 than '96. You are right, the economy is NOT improving. Sorry Barry & your ass kissers!
@redletter2008 ah, when the repubs start revelling in the past, i know they are dead meat. keep reliving 1980. one big difference. white voters made up 88 percent of the electorate then. in 08, it was down to 74 and will likely be below 70 next time. since dems own 90 percent of the black vote and 65 percent of the latino vote, that math looks just plain ugly for repubs. it's looking a LOT like 96 with the insane wing of the repubs forcing a shutdown that 70 percent of america disapproves of.
@tishhead Surprise - I AGREE with your take on the chaning demographics and how it will may play out politically. Still, I don't think we can make broad assumptions on how certain groups will vote. I think blacks will stay 90% Dem, but not convinced Hispanics and enough whites will join them to create governing majorities. Blacks are not projected to be more than 15% of population. Also, this "racial" voting may backfire if most white Americans vote based on race & saving their place in U.S.
@redletter2008 2 things should scare repubs about latino vote: 1. even in 2010, a terrible year for dems, not likely to be repeated, 65 percent of latinos still voted dem. their turnout was low but will undoubtedly go up in a presidential year. 2. the DREAM act. dems likely to bring it up again. it's a killer for repubs. even socially conservative latinos support it strongly, including repub cuban-americans in fla. it's a bright red line that could cost repubs latino vote for a generation.
@tishhead Consider also that America is entering "unchartered" political territiory. The very waning of the centuries long white majority may have consequences we don't see right now. If the Dems win this fight and succeed in postponing necessary adjustments/corrections to entitlements & strucural economic problems, THEY will govern and be BLAMED for failing to save the programs when they DO become insolvent. I am not saying GOP is the answer; voters may look to other "alternative" choices.
@redletter2008 there is a lot of truth in saying politics takes unpredictable swings. do changes have to be made to SS and medicare? yes. but repubs have no credibility on the subject. paul ryan's kill-medicare plan confirms what most seniors knew or suspected all along: repubs just don't believe in the programs and can't be trusted to oversee them. curious to see repub reaction if ohio voters veto the anti-union bill and wisconsin recalls the repub majority. both seem likely.
@tishhead OK, I can respect that and see where you are coming from. I must admit, I have gotten to partisan and well, nasty in my comments lately (to you and others). Yes I have my beliefs and will strongly defend them. You have your beliefs and stongly and convincingly defend them. I should not be nasty or hateful though and I am sorry for that. I wish ALL of us - Democrats, Republicans and others (and especially the President & Congress) would lower the vitriol. Our future is too important.
@redletter2008 i appreciate the sentiment. i usually try to deal with these debates as they come to me. if people want to get nasty and sarcastic, i can do that. and if they want to debate calmly, i can do that. i've actually met and had lunch with a very conservative guy who i had been arguing on here for weeks with. i honestly have to say, though, the current batch of repubs are responsible for about 80 percent of the current vitriol.
@tishhead I will hopefully be debating the issues with you and others (there is a LOT to discuss), but - I will not take the same tone I did in my previous comments. It makes me wonder how we are going to get through next year without having a stroke! These are serious times and I am trying to keep faith that we ALL will do the right things when needed. I can only decide for myself, and I decide to lower the rhetoric. Sorry again.
Awesome. This was the program we were watching when Obama won Ohio, and you could hear people whooping it up outside your window. It was amazing night, and so fun to be in Ohio at the moment everyone knew the election was over!
@TavernWenchBlog i'm out in california and was on phone to my brother when they called ohio. i just said, "it's over. obama's president." gee, where's kenneth blackwell now?
that paster is dilusional. obama has a fat 175 evs just before they called ohio and he says "it's anybody's game now". wtf, obama is swamping mccain just before ohio is called. comical.
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obama wants to give money away to people who dont want to fucking work, ITS CALLED WELFARE, AND SOCIAL SECURITY there are people on social security that there is nothing wrong with them, he will take money from hard workers and give it to those who didnt do shit to earn it, and even if they did no one who works hard should have there money taken away to support some bumb who is sitting on his ass, explain that
Really? So many say his Treasury Secretary, Tim Geithner, and Obama himself have been too good to Wall Street (before getting to Main Street). Amazing how differently some see things.
Ohio (52%-47%). While outperforming Kerry in many locations of the state, such as winning Hamilton County (Cincinnati). His only under performance was in Southeast Ohio (part of Appalachia that has been a hard sell to some culturally-conservative Democrats), with the exception of Athens County (home to the college town Athens, which Obama won by 67%-31%), and three counties bordering West Virginia to the northwest. He nearly tied McCain in Hocking County, in the southern part of the state.
southern ohio is basicly were Bush won it in 2004, it was not until the final numbers came out of Hamilton county that Bush's people were sure he had won.
Plus kerry did not have enough votes out of Cuyahoga county to catch up.
You know how Obama winning electoral votes in Indiana and Virginia — and the 2nd Congressional District [Omaha] in Nebraska — were the first for a Democrat since 1964 Lyndon Johnson? This was also true in numerous states' counties. Among them: Colorado's Jefferson County (Golden); Ind.'s Tippercanoe (Lafayette); Nevada's Washoe (Reno); Ohio's Hamilton (Cincinnati); Va.'s Loudoun (Leesburg) and Prince William (Manassas). Even in McCain/GOP-held Texas: Dallas (Dallas) and Harris (Houston).
Red=Republican and blue=Democrats still annoys me. All through out the world red is the color for liberal/labor parties. Blue is the standard for Conservative/business/tory parties. The media should have some respect recognized cultural symbols.
It was funny the night of the election. After he won OH I said THATS IT. It's over. Even then people were nervous. I knew it was done and understand states like OH don't go blue then have to worry about states like WI, MI, etc. I knew it was done and relaxed the rest of the eve.
This shows the GOP Electoral Strategy flaw. They are to Southern. They have got figrue out how to win North East States. Other wise their best shots are 280-290 31 state victories.
By dragging out the decision on POTUS up until this point, the media actually helped the Democrats. Had they called the election for Obama at 5pm (which would have been a safe bet), many people in the western states would not have gone voting for Congress.
It will. Latinos are increasing their voting power at an astounding rate, and the imminent immigration reform will only solidify the already strong relationship between Democrats and latinos. Once Texas turns blue, Republicans will be irrelevant.
That's what Republicans get for being such a xenophobic bunch.
There is a governors race coming up. There are a couple of qualified Dems (Tom Schiefer, Leticia Van de Putte) in the running for the nomination. On the Rep side there is Rick Perry and Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson. Perry has made statements such as calling for Texas Secession in order to energize the extreme right wing and to paint the Senator as a DC insider. He is desperate b/c he knows he will not survive the primary, let alone the gubernatorial election.
If she runs for governor here, then she would have to vacate her seat and that would mean.... we would have a special election in 2010.
The candidates on the Dems side are: Former State Comptroler John Sharp and Houston Mayor Bill White.
I believe it is POSSIBLE to turn our Great State Blue in 2012 b/c the demographics are in place. I would like to see TX be more competative than just an automatic red state.
My parent's neighbors across the street had a McCain/Palin sign in their yard... as soon as this announcement was made, my dad yelled out the door and said, "IT'S OVER TAKE YOUR SIGN DOWN!" I said, "270 dad, 270... just wait till 10:00 (central)."
I do believe that Our beloved Nation should be very proud of them selves::::: because of what we as a Nation had done Nov 4,2008. As a citizen of this great Nation I too will never forget that night; I'm very proud to be an American which I alweys is, was and will be regarless who wines the presidence..... Much love my beloved Nation!!
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Thanks- we always look to New York for approval. Also, your welcome for stealing our culture and selling it back to us with that nice "new york" label on it.
I'm extremely proud to be an American our beloved Nation voted for a man who will be one of the best president we have ever had and I have feeling Mr. Obama might win 48 states out of 50 States I would not be surprise if he does!!
Obama won 8 of the 10 biggest states. McCain's only two "big states" where Texas (34) and Georgia (15). Come 2012, California could have 58 electoral votes.
After the new census comes out, CA is set to lose 1 Hosue Seat. TX is set to gain FOUR SEATS!
Also you forgot, Obama COULD win Texas or Georgia in 2012. I think there is a better chance of winning TX than GA based on that Texas has an exploding minority population. The GOP has alienated the Hispanic vote with their comments towards Judge Sotomayor.
You maybe right, but most of the stuff I read suggest CA to pick up three more seats. I think Obama could pick up GA, AZ or MO in 2012. TX would be a luxuary.
Missouri was very close. It did not go for McCain until 2-3 days after the election.
I remember, GA and AZ were moved from the strong McCain to lean McCain just hours before the election. On election night, they were in the Too Close To Call before being put into the McCain category. I was not confident putting them in the lean category during this election. GA has a better shot than AZ.
You reading Chuck Todd's book?
wikipedia was where I found TX possibly gaining 4 EV in 2012.
Obama pretty much "maxed out" the black vote in GA, which means in order to win in 2012 in GA he needs to broaden his appeal to other voter group (i.e. white ppl) McCain isnt really thought of as an Arizonan, he's more of a Northern VA type. Barry Goldwater only won AZ by 1% in 1964.
MO is another trick, Obama did well in the big cities (STL, KC) but in order to win in 2012, he needs to broaden his appeal again to rural areas.
Stinder if President Obama remains popular I think he'll have the ability to not only max out the black vote in GA but he'll be able to appeal more easily to white voters in GA who were uneasy about him. In addition, GA has a VERY fast growing Latino population which would help Obama. What is Chuck Todd's book called btw?
Todd is also co-author, with Sheldon Gawiser, of How Barack Obama Won: A State-by-State Guide to the Historic 2008 Presidential Election, published in 2009
2008 John McCain held Georgia by 5.2 percentage points after '04 George W. Bush carried it by 16.5.
McCain held bellwether Missouri by 3,903 votes, a .13 margin, after Bush carried it by 7.2 points.
Mo. is easily flippable if Barack Obama gets re-elected in '12. As easily as it was for '04 Bush to do likewise with New Mexico — also a bellwether — after narrowly missing it in '00.
Ga. will depend on the margin by which Obama increases [popular vote] in '12 [compared to '08].
Obama's black Muslim ass is not going to get re-elected, Mitt Romney will win over that black boy. We will take our country back from this socialized black nightmare in 2010 and 2012.
Mitt Romney is unelectable. Flip flops on the issues. But let's see him nominated anyway; I look forward to a 400-plus vote in the Electoral College in a massive landslide against the GOP.
@CoolBlue71 If unemployment rate has to come down around to 6-7 percent by 2012, the GOP cannot touch Obama. It would be ridiculous to run against him. He would win re-election like Reagan did by 15 or more points, but there is a long long way to go and a tough road ahead.
... and that's what I believe will happen. This country will, because it has to, find its way back to stability. (Or whatever it can do.) You can see some of the signs already. It isn't enough, in this current year, to stop a loss of Democratic-held House and Senate seats; but, then again, there's a similarity here with Reagan's first two years anyway.
@CoolBlue71, how could Romney go with the Republins appeal of Health Care reform?...when he put the same plan in Mass,when he was GOV. Look forward to seeing that SPIN...only the way the GOP can do it!!!
@CoolBlue71 I really wouldn't call it "Flip Flopping" because all he did was change his political views once and never went back. So saying Romney "Flip Flops" is really unfair.
@CoolBlue71 Ronald Reagan changed many of his political views when he was president and he was in his 70's and 80's. So saying he's "Too Old" to be changing his political views is really ridiculous.
TX is indeed gonna grow. In fact rumor has it that Disney plan's to build another Themepark just outside of San Antonio here. So just imagine how many people will want to move here after that. Though the announcement hasn't been made of whether or not they're gonna have a themepark here, but they have bought land here which kinda does make this rumor stand up.
Ohio was hit so hard by the economy and the failure's of Bush. Especially Cincy and Cleveland. The economy has been so bad in the Cincinnati/Northern KY area that it's been almost nearly impossible to make a living there. I use to live there, so I know. And I don't know how people are doin' it there.
Yeah Barack Obama lead by double digits in California, Oregon, Washington, Hawaii totaling 77 electoral votes. At that point in the evening after Ohio, 195+77=272. That's enough even without Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico, Florida ect.......
hmm I can't help but realize how quickly some of these battlegrounds got called for Obama, yet in 04 they waited till the very last precinct to make sure Bush won (since it was obvious they were hoping he'd lose) Same thing with Florida in 2000, called the damn thing early.
"It hasn't happened yet" - 30 seconds later the call is made for Obama in Ohio. And no disrespect to Bishop Jakes because at the time it was close, but this ended up being a landslide. 8 million popular vote win/Nearly 200 Electoral college votes.
I still cheer, watching this video again! What a thrill to see Obama win my state! And what relief, after we were all blamed for Bush in 2004...sweet release!
I was so pround of my own home state Ohio, when Obama won the state! I warned my friends around the country and the world to NOT count on Ohio, because I thought the state would be too conservative to win. But I was so glad I was wrong and Ohio came though for Ohio. Then it was all over for McCain!
Yeah, Ohio sealed the deal. And to think there were actually some idiotic Ohio State Buckeye fans who seriously though Biden's off-the-cuff comment about Delaware being able to beat Ohio State in football would actually sway the election.
the fact that he took all the states that McCain needed...and red states?? U can't tell me people in America ain't tired. I slept well last night....rolled over too
Obama 2012!!
hamiltonjsh 1 month ago
Everyone lets get behind our president and continue to support him and re-elect Pres Obama and VP Biden in 2012! Pres Obama has accomplished about 80% of his 2008 campaign goals and he needs more time do the things needed for our country. Research things for yourself and vote wisely - I hope you will support Pres Obama in 2012! Make sure you are registered properly in your various states - voter surpression is going on in about 37 states which will or can stop people from voting.
Jul4810 2 months ago 4
i dont see him winning penn or ohio in 12.... its going to be a tough re-election
SpaceObake 5 months ago
No right wing shenanigans could save the republican on this night like in 2000. Obama flipped NINE red states from 2004. Thats nearly 1/5 the nation. What a total complete utter repudiation of the absolute failure of george w bush.
rawn4203 7 months ago
This is NOT going to happen next year. I predict Obama will lose Ohio - big! A whole lot of people are not going to buy that Obama shit in '12 - not with his LOUSY record as President. Hell, he never should have been elected in the first place (had NO record or real job; only elected because of HIS race). Plus, traditionally Republican states of Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina and New Hampshire are gonners for "His Emminence". Chris Mathew's "tingle" will turn to explosive diahrea! Big mess!
redletter2008 7 months ago
Obvious you still have sour grapes over Obama's win in 2008. You really believe the Republican Party did anything wonderful for people to vote against a Democratic candidate for president? You bring up his race for what reason? You are the one playing the race card. Don't count chickens before they hatch. I don't expect for Obama to win Ohio in 2012 because the economy will not have improved enough by Nov 2012 to win a swing state like Ohio.
Mr40acresandamule 7 months ago in playlist 2008
@Mr40acresandamule Sorry honey, we all know the real racists are the Democrats (reference the '08 Dem primary when the Obama thugs even tagged Bill Clinton as a racist for simply mentioning Jesse Jackson winning SC primary in '84). Obama WAS elected in part because of his race & to pretend otherwise is moronic. McCain ran a LOUSY campaign & deserved to lose. He couldn't even rally the entire GOP to his side. As for Ohio, I did my research (polling data + '10 midterm election results bad for BO!)
redletter2008 7 months ago
@Mr40acresandamule As for sour grapes - don't lecture me or anyone else for being "sour" on our nation's incompetent, failed leadership (which has taken a bad situation & made it exponentially worse), 9.2% unemployment rate, sputtering economy & $15 trillion national debt (which Obama plans to increase by $1 trillion a year for the next 10 years!). Also, we had to deal with dirty libs & their sour grapes (and we are talkin SOUR) for 8 freakin years ('01-'09). Even after 9/11 they bitched!
redletter2008 7 months ago
You are so bitter and probably racial like I said. The problems of this economy are structural besides political. The financial sector and the structuring of our debt is the problem. It takes two to tango, but parties are the blame. So you believe a Republican conservative is gonna make it better? You have a right to believe that. I know it feels good to say I told you so with Obama. The extension of the Bush tax-cuts has not made the economy grow or produce a robust number of jobs.
Mr40acresandamule 7 months ago
@Mr40acresandamule Hypocrite! Don't call me a bitter racist with comments like your own. Besides, these old and pathetic liberal attacks don't work anymore. Your lame bunch tried this shit before last year's midterm elections - you know, not arguing the issues but simply attacking your opponents personally (like uh, calling them racists or "angry white men, clinging to their guns and religion" - you know, that dribble). Result: 65 seats lost in House; 6 in Senate. Please, try it next year too!
redletter2008 7 months ago
@Mr40acresandamule You are a racist, anti-American liberal (why? because I say so! isn't that the liberal logic?). The economic "structure?" - OK. Where was that excuse in '08 when a Republican was President? There's the hypocrisy. Obama has NO credibility when he attacks the GOP, the rich, small business owners, taxpayers, Christians, the "evil" oil industry, etc. HE said he would be "post-racial," "post-partisan." HE & his supporters are the most partisan racists in 50 years - & they know it!
redletter2008 7 months ago
@redletter2008 how has he attacked the rich? asking them to pay a lower rate than they did under reagan? he's proposed several tax breaks for small business that have been blocked by repubs. how has he attacked christians? or are you one of those who thinks he isn't christian. that would explain a lot. is it attacking the oil industry they shouldn't get taxpayer handouts while they're charging 4 bucks a gallon and hauling in record profits?
tishhead 7 months ago
@tishhead Has most certainly "attacked" (more like demagogued) the rich since he came to office. Ask anyone that runs a small business if they believe the Obama administration to be pro or anti-business. He is - without a doubt - extremely hostile to business, people he "claims" are rich ($250 k p/yr.). I also don't know or give a rat's ass what his religion is (he IS whatever he needs to be depending on the group he's addressing). Old lib attack - "claim he's Christian or you are evil racist".
redletter2008 7 months ago
@redletter2008 i can't help what people as grotesquely ill-informed as you believe. he has signed 8 separate small business tax cuts and has been stopped by repubs on others. your definition of hostile to 250,000+ is to have them go back to clinton tax rates, when they were rolling in dough, lower than they paid for most of reagan admin. your discussion of his religion is repulsive. when has he ever said he was anything but christian?
tishhead 7 months ago
@tishhead First, you know I am not ill-informed. If so you wouldn't bother arguing with me (which you've been doing repeatedly for days). Secondly, you can spout whatever Dem talking point you want, the FACTS are clear - the US economy is in an anemic (at best) recovery, with unemployment hovering at 9% for years, NO jobs are being created & people are scared. FACTS are not subject to your partisan, biased, deceptive interpretations - all aimed at re-electing the WORST President in decades!
redletter2008 7 months ago
@redletter2008 i'll argue with anyone. funny thing is, the thing that has made the last 2 jobs reports look as weak as they have is thing repubs have been longing for -- loss of public (govt) jobs. private jobs have grown for 8 straight months. the repubs are getting what they wanted. look at the polls and see who voters blame for the economy. and look at the what the polls say about the repubs' kill-medicare plan. good luck selling that in florida.
tishhead 7 months ago
Oh.. wanted to add, what a lot of people might not remember about the moment when Ohio was called was that it had been a tense hour. The big swing states that were either candidate's pathway had not been called yet, and a lot of election-watchers were thinking it was taking a bit too long for comfort. Pennsylvania was called a bit early, but there wasn't a peep out of FL, MO, OH, NC, VA. When Ohio was finally called, everyone knew it was over. Thanks so much for posting this video!
TavernWenchBlog 1 year ago
@TavernWenchBlog They were being careful with those states you mentioned.
ABC and NBC called Pennsylvania immediately. It gave 2004 John Kerry a margin of 2.5% when he lost nationally by that much — an ID of D+5%. In 2008, it shifted D, like 44 other states, to flip the White House, and gave Obama a margin of 10%/11%. 60,000-plus votes rep a full % in Pa. So, there wasn't much difficulty in calling Pa.
Ohio was obvious once Hamilton County (Cincinnati) went blue — first time since 1964.
CoolBlue71 1 year ago
@CoolBlue71 remember at the end of the dem primaries when everyone was saying obama couldn't win the blue collars and the rust belt states? then he sweeps penn, ohio and indiana. i just wonder how the latino vote might put more states into play for him in 2012. i think arizona is definitely in play and with even minor improvements in the economy, the repubs are going to have to at least spend some money in texas.
tishhead 1 year ago
@tishhead If Obama gets re-elected in 2012 and he were to flip/carry Arizona, it would likely be on the heels of the Republicans having nominated a bomb. If that were to happen, Obama doesn't lose one state and he gets a national shift that takes his 2008 margin of 7.26% and comes closer to 10% beyond that (usually, it's between 2.5% and 5%). In that case, single-digit-margins McCain states -- including Arizona (R+8.48%) -- flip. We'd see a 400-plus blowout in the Electoral College.
CoolBlue71 1 year ago
@tishhead Based on the Indiana Exit Polls, 4% of all voters were Latino, and they voted for Obama 77%-23%. Among white voters (89%), he only lost them 54%-45%, and won African-Americans (7%) by a 90%-10% margin, thus resulting in a 50%-49% state win.
251to502 1 year ago
@251to502 i'm not quite sure what your point was. indiana obviously isn't one of the states where latinos are a big factor. i'm thinking mostly of arizona coming into play while nevada, colorado and new mexico become more solidly blue. there are other states like georgia and montana that have growing latino populations. both states were pretty close in 08.
tishhead 1 year ago
@tishhead Hispanics in Indiana were critical in having pulled Barack Obama across the finish line (winning it by more than 26,000 votes and a margin of 1.03%). The 44th president of the United States became the first Democrat to carry the Hoosier state since 1964 Lyndon Johnson.
CoolBlue71 1 year ago
@CoolBlue71 you are correct. i just checked the exit polls and it showed latinos as 4 percent of the vote, which is higher than i would have thought. i'm thinking that if indiana is even in play in 2012, the race is over.
tishhead 1 year ago
I don't see Obama carrying Ohio in 2012 because the economy although will improve by Nov 2012. I don't think he can carry it for several reasons: unemployment will still be at least at 8.5%, Ohio has a Republican governor so he has deep influence over the political machinery there, and the healthcare bill still bothers people especially white working class voters who viewed it as welfare and an over reach of government..
Mr40acresandamule 7 months ago in playlist 2008
Obama is not going to win Indiana again in 2012. Winning Indiana was a spill over effect because of Ohio and North Carolina. White vote for Obama was 45%. That will drop 10 points to 35% even if the economy is better. The reason I say that is because the youth vote won't come out for Obama in 2012 and the white working class in states like Indiana are still angry over the healthcare bill "Obama-care"
Mr40acresandamule 7 months ago in playlist 2008
@Mr40acresandamule indiana might be a stretch, but ohio is definitely doable again. kasich has done severe damage to the repub brand. it ain't easy to get your approval rating down to 30 within 6 months of taking office. and i don't the healthcare reform will be as big an issue as the repubs attempts to eliminate medicare.
tishhead 7 months ago
@tishhead It will likely be those very "rust belt" blue collar types that will seal Obama's defeat next year. Despite McCain's lousy, pointless campaign (which failed to rally the entire GOP to his side) he still won 173 electoral votes & 20 states. Obama (riding a tide of dissatisfaction with Bush, the financial crises & 2 wars) won traditionally "red" states of Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado + swing states of Ohio & Florida. Dems already believe IN, VA, NC & OH are gonners!
redletter2008 7 months ago
@redletter2008 1. you think that was a good showing for mccain? 20 states is close to the minimum for any repub. 2. virginia and colorado are no longer traditionally repub. dems have won several statewide va elections and colorado, with the latino vote, is on its way to being longterm blue. 3. ohio? they tried going back to repubs and now kasich has a 30 approval rating. 30. in 6 months. that's almost impossible to do. good luck to repubs running on elimination of medicare.
tishhead 7 months ago
@tishhead Considering Dem's '80 nominee (incumbent President Carter) only won 6 states; "72 & '84 nominees McGovern/Mondale won only one state each - yeah TWENTY states is good! '08 was an awful year for the GOP - having controlled the WH for 8 years (+ Congress for 6 of those), they were historically headed for defeat to Obama or Clinton. Plus McCain ran an atrocious campaign. 2012 is looking more like '80 than '96. You are right, the economy is NOT improving. Sorry Barry & your ass kissers!
redletter2008 7 months ago
@redletter2008 ah, when the repubs start revelling in the past, i know they are dead meat. keep reliving 1980. one big difference. white voters made up 88 percent of the electorate then. in 08, it was down to 74 and will likely be below 70 next time. since dems own 90 percent of the black vote and 65 percent of the latino vote, that math looks just plain ugly for repubs. it's looking a LOT like 96 with the insane wing of the repubs forcing a shutdown that 70 percent of america disapproves of.
tishhead 7 months ago
@tishhead Surprise - I AGREE with your take on the chaning demographics and how it will may play out politically. Still, I don't think we can make broad assumptions on how certain groups will vote. I think blacks will stay 90% Dem, but not convinced Hispanics and enough whites will join them to create governing majorities. Blacks are not projected to be more than 15% of population. Also, this "racial" voting may backfire if most white Americans vote based on race & saving their place in U.S.
redletter2008 7 months ago
@redletter2008 2 things should scare repubs about latino vote: 1. even in 2010, a terrible year for dems, not likely to be repeated, 65 percent of latinos still voted dem. their turnout was low but will undoubtedly go up in a presidential year. 2. the DREAM act. dems likely to bring it up again. it's a killer for repubs. even socially conservative latinos support it strongly, including repub cuban-americans in fla. it's a bright red line that could cost repubs latino vote for a generation.
tishhead 7 months ago
@tishhead Consider also that America is entering "unchartered" political territiory. The very waning of the centuries long white majority may have consequences we don't see right now. If the Dems win this fight and succeed in postponing necessary adjustments/corrections to entitlements & strucural economic problems, THEY will govern and be BLAMED for failing to save the programs when they DO become insolvent. I am not saying GOP is the answer; voters may look to other "alternative" choices.
redletter2008 7 months ago
@redletter2008 there is a lot of truth in saying politics takes unpredictable swings. do changes have to be made to SS and medicare? yes. but repubs have no credibility on the subject. paul ryan's kill-medicare plan confirms what most seniors knew or suspected all along: repubs just don't believe in the programs and can't be trusted to oversee them. curious to see repub reaction if ohio voters veto the anti-union bill and wisconsin recalls the repub majority. both seem likely.
tishhead 7 months ago
@tishhead OK, I can respect that and see where you are coming from. I must admit, I have gotten to partisan and well, nasty in my comments lately (to you and others). Yes I have my beliefs and will strongly defend them. You have your beliefs and stongly and convincingly defend them. I should not be nasty or hateful though and I am sorry for that. I wish ALL of us - Democrats, Republicans and others (and especially the President & Congress) would lower the vitriol. Our future is too important.
redletter2008 7 months ago
@redletter2008 i appreciate the sentiment. i usually try to deal with these debates as they come to me. if people want to get nasty and sarcastic, i can do that. and if they want to debate calmly, i can do that. i've actually met and had lunch with a very conservative guy who i had been arguing on here for weeks with. i honestly have to say, though, the current batch of repubs are responsible for about 80 percent of the current vitriol.
tishhead 7 months ago
@tishhead I will hopefully be debating the issues with you and others (there is a LOT to discuss), but - I will not take the same tone I did in my previous comments. It makes me wonder how we are going to get through next year without having a stroke! These are serious times and I am trying to keep faith that we ALL will do the right things when needed. I can only decide for myself, and I decide to lower the rhetoric. Sorry again.
redletter2008 7 months ago
Awesome. This was the program we were watching when Obama won Ohio, and you could hear people whooping it up outside your window. It was amazing night, and so fun to be in Ohio at the moment everyone knew the election was over!
TavernWenchBlog 1 year ago
@TavernWenchBlog i'm out in california and was on phone to my brother when they called ohio. i just said, "it's over. obama's president." gee, where's kenneth blackwell now?
tishhead 1 year ago
When Ohio was called for Obama it was over.
dvferyance 1 year ago
that paster is dilusional. obama has a fat 175 evs just before they called ohio and he says "it's anybody's game now". wtf, obama is swamping mccain just before ohio is called. comical.
terrondt 1 year ago
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obama wants to give money away to people who dont want to fucking work, ITS CALLED WELFARE, AND SOCIAL SECURITY there are people on social security that there is nothing wrong with them, he will take money from hard workers and give it to those who didnt do shit to earn it, and even if they did no one who works hard should have there money taken away to support some bumb who is sitting on his ass, explain that
mhutchinson27 2 years ago
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obama is a welfare loving spread the wealth around nigger
mhutchinson27 2 years ago
Really? So many say his Treasury Secretary, Tim Geithner, and Obama himself have been too good to Wall Street (before getting to Main Street). Amazing how differently some see things.
CoolBlue71 2 years ago
Ohio (52%-47%). While outperforming Kerry in many locations of the state, such as winning Hamilton County (Cincinnati). His only under performance was in Southeast Ohio (part of Appalachia that has been a hard sell to some culturally-conservative Democrats), with the exception of Athens County (home to the college town Athens, which Obama won by 67%-31%), and three counties bordering West Virginia to the northwest. He nearly tied McCain in Hocking County, in the southern part of the state.
mbs91388 2 years ago 7
southern ohio is basicly were Bush won it in 2004, it was not until the final numbers came out of Hamilton county that Bush's people were sure he had won.
Plus kerry did not have enough votes out of Cuyahoga county to catch up.
DONUTBUZZCUT 2 years ago
You know how Obama winning electoral votes in Indiana and Virginia — and the 2nd Congressional District [Omaha] in Nebraska — were the first for a Democrat since 1964 Lyndon Johnson? This was also true in numerous states' counties. Among them: Colorado's Jefferson County (Golden); Ind.'s Tippercanoe (Lafayette); Nevada's Washoe (Reno); Ohio's Hamilton (Cincinnati); Va.'s Loudoun (Leesburg) and Prince William (Manassas). Even in McCain/GOP-held Texas: Dallas (Dallas) and Harris (Houston).
CoolBlue71 2 years ago 3
Also the first Democrat to win Henrico County, Virginia (exurban/inner suburban areas around Richmond) since Truman in 1948.
mbs91388 2 years ago 2
THANKS FOR THE INFO!! Live across the river from Hamilton Co. (Cincinnati); in KY. So surprised!!
52jamaica 1 year ago
Red=Republican and blue=Democrats still annoys me. All through out the world red is the color for liberal/labor parties. Blue is the standard for Conservative/business/tory parties. The media should have some respect recognized cultural symbols.
bigfilmhat 2 years ago
You know, Tim Russert set that in motion.
gregjones7 2 years ago 4
nobody owns primary colors
ih8tbush 2 years ago 3
How come they didn't call the really red states like MI, TX, and LA until later?
Kippe1702 2 years ago
because obama lead in the early numbers out of those states, but the exit polls show mccain winning them.
DONUTBUZZCUT 2 years ago
i think it took a while for them to count all the votes there.
nader85021 2 years ago
Black populations
ih8tbush 2 years ago
True, Obama maxed out the black vote he did much better than Kerry, but the polls still showed all of those states solidly in the McCain camp. lol
Kippe1702 2 years ago
I notice there isn't any fox news coverage of the winning of all the states.
kaesantiago 2 years ago
It was funny the night of the election. After he won OH I said THATS IT. It's over. Even then people were nervous. I knew it was done and understand states like OH don't go blue then have to worry about states like WI, MI, etc. I knew it was done and relaxed the rest of the eve.
portlandheart 2 years ago
Scarborough was absolutely awesome.
"Maybe he'll win Washington, Oregon, and Hawaii, but I doubt it. Maybe California.."
I love that part, it cracked me up.
flirbertz 2 years ago 4
Sorry Joe.... it's not 1980.
To paraphrase Rick Pitino when he was the Celtics coach: "Ronald Reagan is not walking through that door."
mjwatts1983 2 years ago 2
This shows the GOP Electoral Strategy flaw. They are to Southern. They have got figrue out how to win North East States. Other wise their best shots are 280-290 31 state victories.
lmswentzeljr 2 years ago 4
don't forget, 49-48 popular vote to the electoral college loser (2000)
mjwatts1983 2 years ago
By dragging out the decision on POTUS up until this point, the media actually helped the Democrats. Had they called the election for Obama at 5pm (which would have been a safe bet), many people in the western states would not have gone voting for Congress.
Serfuzz 2 years ago
I love MSNBC, but that night I watched a lot of Fox News just to see them lose their shit..LOL!
CandyAppleRed13 2 years ago 66
@CandyAppleRed13
I watched Fox because MSNBC and CNN were openly for Obama, and FOX was openly for my canidate, McCain.
HalfBornUnicornFetus 1 year ago
@CandyAppleRed13 I love Fox news but that night in 2010 I watched MSNBC just to see them lose their shit.. LOL!
evansville70 8 months ago
TEXAS turn BLUE 012
Anyone disagree with me ?
kunzy3000 2 years ago 14
I really, really wish. I'm a Texan - but there's too many damn republicans here
markymark1791 2 years ago 4
It will. Latinos are increasing their voting power at an astounding rate, and the imminent immigration reform will only solidify the already strong relationship between Democrats and latinos. Once Texas turns blue, Republicans will be irrelevant.
That's what Republicans get for being such a xenophobic bunch.
mistortugas 2 years ago 3
If the economy improves under his watch then he will win Texas.
bravesfanforever31 2 years ago 3
It depends on what happens in 2010.
There is a governors race coming up. There are a couple of qualified Dems (Tom Schiefer, Leticia Van de Putte) in the running for the nomination. On the Rep side there is Rick Perry and Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson. Perry has made statements such as calling for Texas Secession in order to energize the extreme right wing and to paint the Senator as a DC insider. He is desperate b/c he knows he will not survive the primary, let alone the gubernatorial election.
mjwatts1983 2 years ago
On the topic of Sen. Hutchinson...
If she runs for governor here, then she would have to vacate her seat and that would mean.... we would have a special election in 2010.
The candidates on the Dems side are: Former State Comptroler John Sharp and Houston Mayor Bill White.
I believe it is POSSIBLE to turn our Great State Blue in 2012 b/c the demographics are in place. I would like to see TX be more competative than just an automatic red state.
I do agree, if TX goes, so does the GOP.
mjwatts1983 2 years ago
do not foget about tom sheffer on the democratic side. (he's bob Sheffer's brother.)
DONUTBUZZCUT 2 years ago
OHIO is FORGIVEN for 2004!!! lol
Go Ohio and Florida!!!!! I love you guys, you showed the bird to ReTHUGlicans!!!
Smackdown5 2 years ago 8
My parent's neighbors across the street had a McCain/Palin sign in their yard... as soon as this announcement was made, my dad yelled out the door and said, "IT'S OVER TAKE YOUR SIGN DOWN!" I said, "270 dad, 270... just wait till 10:00 (central)."
s203mkj 2 years ago 5
It was absolutely over when Ohio was called. Everyone including your dad knew that.
flirbertz 2 years ago
Texas?
mjwatts1983 2 years ago
This never gets old!
Mliggy 3 years ago 11
No, it's still cool.
bigfilmhat 2 years ago 2
I do believe that Our beloved Nation should be very proud of them selves::::: because of what we as a Nation had done Nov 4,2008. As a citizen of this great Nation I too will never forget that night; I'm very proud to be an American which I alweys is, was and will be regarless who wines the presidence..... Much love my beloved Nation!!
Baadil1 3 years ago 7
Ohio, you are now forgiven for 2004.
AtomikNY 3 years ago 51
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Thanks- we always look to New York for approval. Also, your welcome for stealing our culture and selling it back to us with that nice "new york" label on it.
wmr4pitt 3 years ago
@AtomikNY
Nope!
chefrick 1 year ago
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Does anyone know where I can watch the entire election night coverage? Any channel will do.
jmd8pb 3 years ago
I'm extremely proud to be an American our beloved Nation voted for a man who will be one of the best president we have ever had and I have feeling Mr. Obama might win 48 states out of 50 States I would not be surprise if he does!!
sameerelkayfe77 3 years ago
T D Jakes consider himself a Republican
leewatson01 3 years ago
The State of Ohio owned TD Jakes LOLZ
straightofdahood 3 years ago 3
The big cities and suburbs gave Obama Penn, Ohio, and VA
bravesfanforever31 3 years ago 2
VA did something right.
mjwatts1983 2 years ago
"He's not got a landslide in any stretch of the imagination"
LMAO LMAO LMAO
365-172
What us hip-hopper's call...ETHER
darcskies777 3 years ago 4
OH, FL, MI, and PA totally squashed HRC's "unelectable" theory.
I love how TD Jakes' stupid opinion was interrupted with Obama's OH win! lol
jdfodio 3 years ago 13
I love that
CherryIce1114 3 years ago
Anytime I need a good chuckle, I take a look at this video, esp :33 to :42 Did they even come back to TD Jakes after that? LOL
jdfodio 3 years ago
Obama took alot of big states like:
New York 33, Pennsylvania 21, Florida 27, Michigan 17, Illinois 21, and California 55.
But mccain on Texas with 34.
he94587 3 years ago
Obama won 8 of the 10 biggest states. McCain's only two "big states" where Texas (34) and Georgia (15). Come 2012, California could have 58 electoral votes.
Stinder 3 years ago 4
No.
After the new census comes out, CA is set to lose 1 Hosue Seat. TX is set to gain FOUR SEATS!
Also you forgot, Obama COULD win Texas or Georgia in 2012. I think there is a better chance of winning TX than GA based on that Texas has an exploding minority population. The GOP has alienated the Hispanic vote with their comments towards Judge Sotomayor.
mjwatts1983 2 years ago
You maybe right, but most of the stuff I read suggest CA to pick up three more seats. I think Obama could pick up GA, AZ or MO in 2012. TX would be a luxuary.
Stinder 2 years ago
Missouri was very close. It did not go for McCain until 2-3 days after the election.
I remember, GA and AZ were moved from the strong McCain to lean McCain just hours before the election. On election night, they were in the Too Close To Call before being put into the McCain category. I was not confident putting them in the lean category during this election. GA has a better shot than AZ.
You reading Chuck Todd's book?
wikipedia was where I found TX possibly gaining 4 EV in 2012.
mjwatts1983 2 years ago
Good points all around:
Obama pretty much "maxed out" the black vote in GA, which means in order to win in 2012 in GA he needs to broaden his appeal to other voter group (i.e. white ppl) McCain isnt really thought of as an Arizonan, he's more of a Northern VA type. Barry Goldwater only won AZ by 1% in 1964.
MO is another trick, Obama did well in the big cities (STL, KC) but in order to win in 2012, he needs to broaden his appeal again to rural areas.
I havent read Chuck's book.
Stinder 2 years ago
Stinder if President Obama remains popular I think he'll have the ability to not only max out the black vote in GA but he'll be able to appeal more easily to white voters in GA who were uneasy about him. In addition, GA has a VERY fast growing Latino population which would help Obama. What is Chuck Todd's book called btw?
1prouddemocrat 2 years ago 2
Todd is also co-author, with Sheldon Gawiser, of How Barack Obama Won: A State-by-State Guide to the Historic 2008 Presidential Election, published in 2009
Stinder 2 years ago
2008 John McCain held Georgia by 5.2 percentage points after '04 George W. Bush carried it by 16.5.
McCain held bellwether Missouri by 3,903 votes, a .13 margin, after Bush carried it by 7.2 points.
Mo. is easily flippable if Barack Obama gets re-elected in '12. As easily as it was for '04 Bush to do likewise with New Mexico — also a bellwether — after narrowly missing it in '00.
Ga. will depend on the margin by which Obama increases [popular vote] in '12 [compared to '08].
CoolBlue71 2 years ago
Obama's black Muslim ass is not going to get re-elected, Mitt Romney will win over that black boy. We will take our country back from this socialized black nightmare in 2010 and 2012.
luvs2teach00 2 years ago
luvs2teach100 should be the top speechwriter for the Republican Party's presidential nominee in 2012.
CoolBlue71 2 years ago
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he is a damn nigger
mhutchinson27 2 years ago
Can you articulate your message?
CoolBlue71 2 years ago
Mitt Romney is unelectable. Flip flops on the issues. But let's see him nominated anyway; I look forward to a 400-plus vote in the Electoral College in a massive landslide against the GOP.
CoolBlue71 2 years ago 15
@CoolBlue71 If unemployment rate has to come down around to 6-7 percent by 2012, the GOP cannot touch Obama. It would be ridiculous to run against him. He would win re-election like Reagan did by 15 or more points, but there is a long long way to go and a tough road ahead.
luvs2teach00 2 years ago 2
... and that's what I believe will happen. This country will, because it has to, find its way back to stability. (Or whatever it can do.) You can see some of the signs already. It isn't enough, in this current year, to stop a loss of Democratic-held House and Senate seats; but, then again, there's a similarity here with Reagan's first two years anyway.
CoolBlue71 2 years ago 4
@CoolBlue71, how could Romney go with the Republins appeal of Health Care reform?...when he put the same plan in Mass,when he was GOV. Look forward to seeing that SPIN...only the way the GOP can do it!!!
52jamaica 1 year ago
@CoolBlue71 I really wouldn't call it "Flip Flopping" because all he did was change his political views once and never went back. So saying Romney "Flip Flops" is really unfair.
BansheeGun 3 months ago
@Banshee Mitt Romney is too old to be changing his"political views." What "change" there appears to be is for his campaign.
CoolBlue71 2 months ago
@CoolBlue71 Ronald Reagan changed many of his political views when he was president and he was in his 70's and 80's. So saying he's "Too Old" to be changing his political views is really ridiculous.
BansheeGun 2 months ago
@luvs2teach00 u were maybe the same person whom said he was not going to be elected in 2008. get used to him being president through 2016 buddy.
terrondt 1 year ago
@luvs2teach00 Fuck you Racist Bitch!
mr300ism 9 months ago
TX is indeed gonna grow. In fact rumor has it that Disney plan's to build another Themepark just outside of San Antonio here. So just imagine how many people will want to move here after that. Though the announcement hasn't been made of whether or not they're gonna have a themepark here, but they have bought land here which kinda does make this rumor stand up.
jorgemartinez18 2 years ago
I didn't think he could win Ohio, Pennsylvania after the primaries
bravesfanforever31 3 years ago 2
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why the HELL is a pastor doing political commentary like he knows WTF he's talking about.
Unless Jesus is running for something sit your fat fraud ass down somewhere and go steal more old women's pensions for your "building fund"
THat said: GOBAMA!
darcskies777 3 years ago
This may shock you, but people who have a job in one area can still be knowledgeable on other things. Here's a good example: Martin Luther King Jr.
Would you say MLK should have shut his "fat fraud ass down"?
Evinem0124 3 years ago
MLK was a Civil Rights leader that used the church to organize.
TD JAkes is a Christian Conservative Republican fraud who just wants money and attention.
Sorry but slick talking preachers dont impress me. Especially when they have ZERO accomplishments to show for it.
And sorry convincing a horde of weak minded morons to give you money doesn't qualify you as a political pundit. It just doesn't.
darcskies777 3 years ago 3
MLK wasn't fat
jdfodio 3 years ago 2
I went Completely Crazy When they announced Ohio For Obama I was so Happy
intelly08 3 years ago 12
Ohio was hit so hard by the economy and the failure's of Bush. Especially Cincy and Cleveland. The economy has been so bad in the Cincinnati/Northern KY area that it's been almost nearly impossible to make a living there. I use to live there, so I know. And I don't know how people are doin' it there.
jorgemartinez18 3 years ago
Michigan was hit the hardest
sweetheart2109 3 years ago
I agree...
Especially Detroit...
I was told that the economic strength of the city is depending on the performance of the auto industry...
SEALs22 3 years ago
When Ohio was called it was GAME OVER
lordadmiral 3 years ago 15
Yeah Barack Obama lead by double digits in California, Oregon, Washington, Hawaii totaling 77 electoral votes. At that point in the evening after Ohio, 195+77=272. That's enough even without Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico, Florida ect.......
bigfilmhat 3 years ago 7
i sprayed myself with a hose when dis happened..hahah
ACeast4321 3 years ago 3
THE DAGGER
ccr61851 3 years ago 7
hmm I can't help but realize how quickly some of these battlegrounds got called for Obama, yet in 04 they waited till the very last precinct to make sure Bush won (since it was obvious they were hoping he'd lose) Same thing with Florida in 2000, called the damn thing early.
ChiTownGuyIndy 3 years ago
They are a lot more careful calling states unless they are sure because of Florida in 2000.
bigfilmhat 3 years ago 3
"It hasn't happened yet" - 30 seconds later the call is made for Obama in Ohio. And no disrespect to Bishop Jakes because at the time it was close, but this ended up being a landslide. 8 million popular vote win/Nearly 200 Electoral college votes.
flirbertz 3 years ago 7
"Hang On Sloopy, Sloopy Hang On, O-H-I-O!!"
I still cheer, watching this video again! What a thrill to see Obama win my state! And what relief, after we were all blamed for Bush in 2004...sweet release!
TruWatcher 3 years ago 8
Love reliving this moment...
mitch7951 3 years ago 8
I was so pround of my own home state Ohio, when Obama won the state! I warned my friends around the country and the world to NOT count on Ohio, because I thought the state would be too conservative to win. But I was so glad I was wrong and Ohio came though for Ohio. Then it was all over for McCain!
rkhobo 3 years ago 17
I was absolutely shocked when Ohio was called so early in the evening.
7boon 3 years ago 9
the straw that broke the camels back
ruffzspree 3 years ago 7
Yeah, Ohio sealed the deal. And to think there were actually some idiotic Ohio State Buckeye fans who seriously though Biden's off-the-cuff comment about Delaware being able to beat Ohio State in football would actually sway the election.
geoffds 3 years ago 6
When Obama won Ohio it was over.
irockit77 3 years ago 10
I Voted Obama...
teeftaller7 3 years ago 8
the fact that he took all the states that McCain needed...and red states?? U can't tell me people in America ain't tired. I slept well last night....rolled over too
nicegyrl1 3 years ago 5
Us Ohioans Came Through Add 1 4 The Buckeye State
chsnake10981 3 years ago 7
NICE!!!!!! I'm Soo Happy!! I am still pissed that I am stuck in one of those DAMN red states (TX) GO OBAMA!!
legend0110 3 years ago 6
epic
mostecri 3 years ago 3
President Obama
monsterminds2 3 years ago 6
FUCK YES!
TheUndeadLawyer 3 years ago 3
YES... as I said before... LANDSLIDE VICTORY!
yes4me 3 years ago 3
OMG. This is so thrilling. eek!
laraihell 3 years ago 7