This morning I attended the "extraordinary form" of the Mass. For the first time in my life I felt like I was at church. The women had their heads covered, Rosary beads clicked here & there, we spent most of our time on our knees, there was a great deal of silence, the priest was not trying to be an entertainer, & we kept our hands to ourselves. It makes me want to become a priest.
The point is : In full communion with WHAT Church? With the Church, they are, and always were... With the new religion of Vatican II, they're not and never will be... As Mgr Lefebvre said "We are excommunicated by the modernists, by people who are doomed by all the former Popes... So, who cares? We are censured by those who are already censured!"
@fan2jnrc The Church Christ established, the one that Jesus promised the gates of hell would not prevail against. If you seriously believe that the Church is now in error, you are saying Jesus is a liar, which he is not.
@assasincomedy Church is not in error, only some bad members of the Church are, but it's just a temporary eclipse. The interlopers will lose in the end, and Church will flower again. Pope Leo XIII had predict the present situation : "Where the See of the Blessed Peter and the Chair of Truth have been set up for the light of the gentiles, there they have placed the throne of the abomination of their wickedness, so that, the Pastor having been struck, they may also be able to scatter the flock..."
@fan2jnrc So you are making the huge generalization that because there are a few unorthodox clergy that the 'entire' Church is currently in the wrong?
@assasincomedy "A few unorthodox clergy"????? "A huge generalization"? Either you are extremely biased, either you really don't set often foot in a church, my dear... Almost ALL the conciliar clergy is unorthodox... All what you see and what you hear in all the churches today would have horrified all the Popes until John XXIII... And Rome accepts everything, and approves by the silence... Anyway we waste our time, you and me... I'm used to that kind of endless argumentations... Useless...
The SSPX are not excommunicated as of now they are in An Irregular Communion, Drives me crazy sometimes when people dont get it right !! they have valid sacraments however they are illicit !
The SSPX are not excommunicated as of now they are in An Irregular Communion, Drives me crazy sometimes when people dont get it right !! they have valid sacraments however they are illicit !
@Justineli1990 Actually confessions and marriages performed by the SSPX are invalid because these sacraments require more than power (which they have because they are validly ordained clergy), they also require the faculty to exercise that power (which they don't have because they were suspended a divinis by Pope Paul VI).
Abortion pills are forbidden and that's no normal in a liberal state! because italian state is not made just by catholics! it's easy to love the church without living HERE
I respact you all brother catholics, as I hope you respect who has different ideas from yours. But I live in Rome and I have to argue that the Roman catholic Church is behaving soo bad over here.
to find out the nearest church that provides the Latin Tridentine Mass in your State. Call your Congressman and tell them not to vote for Senate Bill S.1390. This defense bill has attached to it S.909 which is a hate crimes bill meant to criminalize any public expression of Christianity.
check out truthtellers . org Rev. Ted Pike is one of the few Christian pastors with the courage to take on the anti-Christ Jews at the ADL.
@traditionalchristian I'm just as traditional as anybody else. I've been going to the Latin Mass for about a year now. But your hatred of Jews is disgusting and an abomination, which you must seriously repent for. Many Catholic saints were Jewish, including all of the Apostles, and others such as St. Edith Stein. Not to mention of course your Lord and savior Jesus Christ. It's sad nobody else has tried to stop your errors. God have mercy on us. Sancta Maria ora pro nobis. Please pray the Rosary!
Vatican II was the result of Jewish Masons that infiltrated the Vatican, the Seminaries, and Catholic Universities. Vatican II was a Jewish attempt to destroy the Catholic Church. However, with the advent of the highspeed internet, Catholics can circumvent the Jewish Media and learn the truth about Vatican II. I have been going to the Traditional Latin Tridentine Mass for three weeks now. I will never go to the Judaized Novus Ordo Mass ever again.
¡Long live the Zeina Heart and Virgin of Guadalupe!
¡Wow, wow!, See tube8 videos Zeina Heart and be convinced that it is an actual reincarnation of the Virgin Mary. Poor, suffering daily the way it was pregnant at that Roman soldier who nicknamed the "Holy Spirit". (The cuckold José never believed).
I believe that May 10 will have the hands and feet that amputees have their members again. those who have broken the backbone to walk again.
The new Mass is something which we give to God. The old Mass is something that God gave to us. The new Mass allows us to worship God in the context of the here-and-now and has a horizontal aspect to it. The old Mass allows us to worship God in the presence of angels and saints and has a vertical aspect to it. The old Mass is about being willingly submissive to the demands of tradition and ritual. The new Mass is about fitting God into the needs of the ever changing "us".
The fight grows, now within the Church itself against anti-revolutionary. The hierarchy is very contaminated, you have to restore the church. Join the tradiiconales to break down the errors of Vatican II and regain the glory of the Church of Jesus Christ. Pax.
We must fight for the whole Catholic flock, to acknowledge the Zeina Heart as a holy and miraculous if true reincarnation of the Virgin Mary.
I recommend to study everything about it. ixtoc999
La lucha crece, ahora dentro de la misma Iglesia contra los revolucionarios anticatolicos. La jerarquia esta muy contaminada, hay que restaurar la iglesia. Unete a los tradiiconales para echar abajo los errores de Vaticano II y recobrar la gloria de la Iglesia de Jesucristo. Pax.
Tenemos que luchar para que toda la grey católica, reconozca a la santa Zeina Heart como un auténtico y milagroso caso de reencarnación de la virgen María.
Recomiendo que estudien todo acerca de ella. ixtoc999
IS THAT SO? you don't beleive in the holy spirit then I see.... Don't you know that the holy spirit guides the Pope to open councils, Novous ordo is juts as valid as the tridentine mass as long as there ar no abuses of the modern trends.
The Novus Ordo IS A MOCKERY OF THE Holy Mass, a bad copy of the Lutheran Service and an offense to God, because it changes the VERY WORDS OF JESUS in the consecretion. Pax Christi.
To be the Devil's advocate, there also word in the consecration in the Traditional Latin Mass which did not leave Christ's lips at the last supper. In insertion of "Mysterium Fidei" in the consecration of the wine comes to mind. So, not all changes to the words of consecration invalidate the Mass.
Also, the original Latin text of the Novus Ordo says "Pro multis" and not "Pro omnibus".
turn coats? the do the mass entirely in Latin they dont learn the new form if i heard correctly, they are not turn coats because they belive the pope is picked by the spirit of God and the vicar of Christ.
The one that appointed Peter and his sucessers, the one that we both claim allegence to. Come back to the fold, your father is waiting as a priest told me to tell a friend that went away from the church.
Remeber the mistakes a pope makes he does so as a man the office he fills is Gods.
Thank God FSSP stayed in... I think this is the best place to work for change because Catholics can discover the beauty of the Traditional Latin Mass without fear. SSPX is going to have to become an option if things get any worse in the Novus Ordo or FSSP gets axed by the Church.... God Bless both FSSP and SSPX!
EXCUSE ME the SSPX is excomunicated and d not deserve to be praised, as lefebrve too kis dwindlings to far, unlik the FSSP they backed down and waitd till things cooled down ad continued the celebration, not ordaining their own bishops!
Not so, brother, the canonical experts agree that there were no grounds for excommunication, we still recognize the Pope and His Holiness meet regularly with the Superiors of the Society. Better excomunicate the liberal American Bishops, that have made a party of the Holy mass.
VATICAN II HAPPENED! at will be always, just accept it, I prefer the tridentine Rite like you do, but Vatican II was still a holy Council like the rest
Sorry, father, but the rotten fruits of Vatican 2 can be seen and smelt everywhere. "For thy fruits thou shall known." Get Tridentine, save your soul!
The difference between the fssp and sspx is quite simple. The fssp are nostalgic for the Latin Mass, whereas the sspx are faithful to the teachings and traditions of the Holy Catholic Church. Many people believe that the fssp consists of all the "bad eggs" from the sspx i.e. liberal priests and parishioners. However after viewing your video I have to admit that it was wonderful and I'm sure that it will be very useful to priests and faithful.
such wonderful Pictures and Music, from the Traditional Latin Mass!
TraditionalRC34 1 month ago
This morning I attended the "extraordinary form" of the Mass. For the first time in my life I felt like I was at church. The women had their heads covered, Rosary beads clicked here & there, we spent most of our time on our knees, there was a great deal of silence, the priest was not trying to be an entertainer, & we kept our hands to ourselves. It makes me want to become a priest.
andrjsh 10 months ago 4
Pope Benedict XVI has remitted the FSSPX. Everything they do is valid as of now.
SkellingtonKing1 11 months ago
@SkellingtonKing1 They are not in full communion with the Church yet...
assasincomedy 9 months ago
@assasincomedy
The point is : In full communion with WHAT Church? With the Church, they are, and always were... With the new religion of Vatican II, they're not and never will be... As Mgr Lefebvre said "We are excommunicated by the modernists, by people who are doomed by all the former Popes... So, who cares? We are censured by those who are already censured!"
fan2jnrc 7 months ago
@fan2jnrc The Church Christ established, the one that Jesus promised the gates of hell would not prevail against. If you seriously believe that the Church is now in error, you are saying Jesus is a liar, which he is not.
assasincomedy 7 months ago
@assasincomedy Church is not in error, only some bad members of the Church are, but it's just a temporary eclipse. The interlopers will lose in the end, and Church will flower again. Pope Leo XIII had predict the present situation : "Where the See of the Blessed Peter and the Chair of Truth have been set up for the light of the gentiles, there they have placed the throne of the abomination of their wickedness, so that, the Pastor having been struck, they may also be able to scatter the flock..."
fan2jnrc 7 months ago
@fan2jnrc So you are making the huge generalization that because there are a few unorthodox clergy that the 'entire' Church is currently in the wrong?
assasincomedy 7 months ago
@assasincomedy "A few unorthodox clergy"????? "A huge generalization"? Either you are extremely biased, either you really don't set often foot in a church, my dear... Almost ALL the conciliar clergy is unorthodox... All what you see and what you hear in all the churches today would have horrified all the Popes until John XXIII... And Rome accepts everything, and approves by the silence... Anyway we waste our time, you and me... I'm used to that kind of endless argumentations... Useless...
fan2jnrc 7 months ago
@fan2jnrc I think you are over-reacting. God bless.
assasincomedy 7 months ago
you are correct smartwarthog...my bad
Justineli1990 1 year ago
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The SSPX are not excommunicated as of now they are in An Irregular Communion, Drives me crazy sometimes when people dont get it right !! they have valid sacraments however they are illicit !
Justineli1990 1 year ago
The SSPX are not excommunicated as of now they are in An Irregular Communion, Drives me crazy sometimes when people dont get it right !! they have valid sacraments however they are illicit !
Justineli1990 1 year ago
@Justineli1990 Actually confessions and marriages performed by the SSPX are invalid because these sacraments require more than power (which they have because they are validly ordained clergy), they also require the faculty to exercise that power (which they don't have because they were suspended a divinis by Pope Paul VI).
SmartWarthog 1 year ago 4
Abortion pills are forbidden and that's no normal in a liberal state! because italian state is not made just by catholics! it's easy to love the church without living HERE
neonenour89 1 year ago
I respact you all brother catholics, as I hope you respect who has different ideas from yours. But I live in Rome and I have to argue that the Roman catholic Church is behaving soo bad over here.
neonenour89 1 year ago
@neonenour89 Yes, I have some Italian friends and they tell me that there is a moral void in Rome. Like before the reformation.
xipe02 1 year ago
I like the chant at the very beginning of the video.
TheSacredHeart2 2 years ago 2
How Many of thease DVD's have been distributed, either freely or with charge?
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
Check out latinmasstimes . com
to find out the nearest church that provides the Latin Tridentine Mass in your State. Call your Congressman and tell them not to vote for Senate Bill S.1390. This defense bill has attached to it S.909 which is a hate crimes bill meant to criminalize any public expression of Christianity.
check out truthtellers . org Rev. Ted Pike is one of the few Christian pastors with the courage to take on the anti-Christ Jews at the ADL.
traditionalchristian 2 years ago
where can I find info on Senate Bill s.1390 and S. 909?
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
@traditionalchristian I'm just as traditional as anybody else. I've been going to the Latin Mass for about a year now. But your hatred of Jews is disgusting and an abomination, which you must seriously repent for. Many Catholic saints were Jewish, including all of the Apostles, and others such as St. Edith Stein. Not to mention of course your Lord and savior Jesus Christ. It's sad nobody else has tried to stop your errors. God have mercy on us. Sancta Maria ora pro nobis. Please pray the Rosary!
rumpranger65 2 years ago
Why was St. Simon of Trent decanonized?
traditionalchristian 2 years ago
check out realzionistnews . com
and mostholyfamilymonastery . com
to learn the truth about how the Jewish ADL, ACLU, and the Rothschild family are trying to criminalized Christianity.
traditionalchristian 2 years ago
Vatican II was the result of Jewish Masons that infiltrated the Vatican, the Seminaries, and Catholic Universities. Vatican II was a Jewish attempt to destroy the Catholic Church. However, with the advent of the highspeed internet, Catholics can circumvent the Jewish Media and learn the truth about Vatican II. I have been going to the Traditional Latin Tridentine Mass for three weeks now. I will never go to the Judaized Novus Ordo Mass ever again.
traditionalchristian 2 years ago
Also Can FSSP Priests celebrate the Novus Ordo Mass?
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
Does this DVD include the requierd certificate from Rome after compleation?
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
Hey, it's Fr. Pendergraft and Fr. Lee!
JacksCZ452 2 years ago
cockney...
couldn't they find someone else?
Gspijkenisse 2 years ago
¡Long live the Zeina Heart and Virgin of Guadalupe!
¡Wow, wow!, See tube8 videos Zeina Heart and be convinced that it is an actual reincarnation of the Virgin Mary. Poor, suffering daily the way it was pregnant at that Roman soldier who nicknamed the "Holy Spirit". (The cuckold José never believed).
I believe that May 10 will have the hands and feet that amputees have their members again. those who have broken the backbone to walk again.
ixtocc999 2 years ago
The new Mass is something which we give to God. The old Mass is something that God gave to us. The new Mass allows us to worship God in the context of the here-and-now and has a horizontal aspect to it. The old Mass allows us to worship God in the presence of angels and saints and has a vertical aspect to it. The old Mass is about being willingly submissive to the demands of tradition and ritual. The new Mass is about fitting God into the needs of the ever changing "us".
lichtbroeder 2 years ago 4
The fight grows, now within the Church itself against anti-revolutionary. The hierarchy is very contaminated, you have to restore the church. Join the tradiiconales to break down the errors of Vatican II and regain the glory of the Church of Jesus Christ. Pax.
We must fight for the whole Catholic flock, to acknowledge the Zeina Heart as a holy and miraculous if true reincarnation of the Virgin Mary.
I recommend to study everything about it. ixtoc999
ixtocc999 2 years ago
Hey don of a bitch, do not use my good name! Smoke you!
ixtoc999 2 years ago
sedevacantist heretic.
AndrzejpolaniaXP 2 years ago
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La lucha crece, ahora dentro de la misma Iglesia contra los revolucionarios anticatolicos. La jerarquia esta muy contaminada, hay que restaurar la iglesia. Unete a los tradiiconales para echar abajo los errores de Vaticano II y recobrar la gloria de la Iglesia de Jesucristo. Pax.
Tenemos que luchar para que toda la grey católica, reconozca a la santa Zeina Heart como un auténtico y milagroso caso de reencarnación de la virgen María.
Recomiendo que estudien todo acerca de ella. ixtoc999
ixtocc999 2 years ago
you still seperate yourselves by your belives, you might be valid but not legal if I understand correctly.
manga12 3 years ago
IS THAT SO? you don't beleive in the holy spirit then I see.... Don't you know that the holy spirit guides the Pope to open councils, Novous ordo is juts as valid as the tridentine mass as long as there ar no abuses of the modern trends.
priest008 3 years ago
The Novus Ordo IS A MOCKERY OF THE Holy Mass, a bad copy of the Lutheran Service and an offense to God, because it changes the VERY WORDS OF JESUS in the consecretion. Pax Christi.
xipe02 3 years ago 3
To be the Devil's advocate, there also word in the consecration in the Traditional Latin Mass which did not leave Christ's lips at the last supper. In insertion of "Mysterium Fidei" in the consecration of the wine comes to mind. So, not all changes to the words of consecration invalidate the Mass.
Also, the original Latin text of the Novus Ordo says "Pro multis" and not "Pro omnibus".
Dauphin35 2 years ago
Thanks for the input, brother.+++ Veritas liberavit vos.
ixtoc999 2 years ago
The priest who said the mass is Fr. Gregory Pendergraft FSSP.
alabama1895 3 years ago
turn coats? the do the mass entirely in Latin they dont learn the new form if i heard correctly, they are not turn coats because they belive the pope is picked by the spirit of God and the vicar of Christ.
The one that appointed Peter and his sucessers, the one that we both claim allegence to. Come back to the fold, your father is waiting as a priest told me to tell a friend that went away from the church.
Remeber the mistakes a pope makes he does so as a man the office he fills is Gods.
manga12 3 years ago 2
The Extraordinary Form is profound and sanctus.
It is one of the seven sacraments . (SACER=Holy,sacrosanct-> ,,The holy act") is the root of this word.
Religio1 3 years ago 4
Thank God FSSP stayed in... I think this is the best place to work for change because Catholics can discover the beauty of the Traditional Latin Mass without fear. SSPX is going to have to become an option if things get any worse in the Novus Ordo or FSSP gets axed by the Church.... God Bless both FSSP and SSPX!
mm3861 3 years ago 15
Oh, JA! The SSPX will keep them honest, so they do not go to back to their old ways of the Novus Ordo.
xipe02 3 years ago 3
Agree with your comments 100%. These faithful priests need our prayers and material support. God guide, bless and sustain the remnant.
Raven0065 3 years ago 8
EXCUSE ME the SSPX is excomunicated and d not deserve to be praised, as lefebrve too kis dwindlings to far, unlik the FSSP they backed down and waitd till things cooled down ad continued the celebration, not ordaining their own bishops!
priest008 3 years ago
Not so, brother, the canonical experts agree that there were no grounds for excommunication, we still recognize the Pope and His Holiness meet regularly with the Superiors of the Society. Better excomunicate the liberal American Bishops, that have made a party of the Holy mass.
xipe02 3 years ago 4
Hey priest, the SSPX is not longer excomunicated.
Deo Gratias!! Down with Vatican I I !!!
ixtoc999 2 years ago
WHY DOWN WITH VATICAN II!!! stop saying rubbish
VATICAN II HAPPENED! at will be always, just accept it, I prefer the tridentine Rite like you do, but Vatican II was still a holy Council like the rest
priest008 2 years ago 3
Sorry, father, but the rotten fruits of Vatican 2 can be seen and smelt everywhere. "For thy fruits thou shall known." Get Tridentine, save your soul!
ixtoc999 2 years ago
Only the 4 Bishops where recommuicated. Also several select clergy and few SSPX chapels have been recommunicated.
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
Only the four (and Lefebvre) were excommunicated originally, not the faithful or the priests of the SSPX, so how were they "recommunicated"?
baldwalrus7 2 years ago
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grunbaum87 1 year ago
@baldwalrus7 Correction: the excommunications were "remitted". It's on the Holy See website
grunbaum87 1 year ago
@mm3861 You can't forget the institute of christ the king
jvaz003 1 year ago
@mm3861 SSPX are not real Catholics: their founder got the Boot from the pope, and for good reason.
cheesemonkey1990 1 year ago
The difference between the fssp and sspx is quite simple. The fssp are nostalgic for the Latin Mass, whereas the sspx are faithful to the teachings and traditions of the Holy Catholic Church. Many people believe that the fssp consists of all the "bad eggs" from the sspx i.e. liberal priests and parishioners. However after viewing your video I have to admit that it was wonderful and I'm sure that it will be very useful to priests and faithful.
grunbaum87 3 years ago
You've gotta be kidding me...
MuffinMojo 3 years ago
It's been a while since I've seen a Catholic DvD (or a preview) that gave me the "oooooooooh" affect.
I'm not even a priest (well - I'm an altar boy for the 'Extraordinary Rite') and I can't wait for the German version to come out!
:-)
Manofhopeandglory 3 years ago
Fr. Lee!
themickb 3 years ago 4