Nir, did you read the Book of Mormon.?Id envourage you to because you are clearly cluelless about its content except for a few tiny points which you relay incorrectly.Nor are you knowledgable about the Chucrh, its people or its history.Id encourage you to do proper research.Captain Moroni killed people in defence. He did not go out to make war and when he had power over his enemy he showed mercy, allowing men to make vows and go free.The kings men were traitors and as in Americas past punished
Just as Indians were falsely accused as being perpetrators and Immigrants were accused of being terrorists, so with the WTC/911 event:: The lying false accusers are those in control:: The Mormon Church in 1857 and a secret gov't within the gov't did 911/WTC. Both parties controlled the media flow, too. Mormons were perps and covered it up and falsely accused others of crimes Mormons committed. It's called a conspiracy. Mormons declared martial law and deprived others of rights. Sounds familiar?
Yeah, why not instead of portraying terrorism committed by a prominent corpo-church that has wealth and power in our society portray the mostly fictional, state approved and advertised threat of radical islam? White ignorance ftw.
wtf does this movie have to do with Islamic terrorism? NOTHING. obscure event? You want a movie about that? Wasn't the twin tower footage enough? What kind of news is this?
My fav character,one of the most prominent in the film,the young Mormon that disagreed with what was happening & spoke out against it. I don't know if his character was based on a real person or not?
It shows that the leaders of THiS Mormon group followed blindly the decision to kill the people...believing they were doing God's will.They chose that day to kill unarmed people. It might have not been done exactly as this movie portrayed,but we can learn from it..if not the movie,the event.
Brigham Young- "There are sins that men commit for which they cannot receive forgiveness in this world, or in that which is to come, and if they had their eyes open to see their true condition, they would be perfectly willing to have their blood spilt upon the ground, that the smoke thereof might ascend to heaven as an offering for their sins; and the smoking incense would atone for their sins, whereas, if such is not the case, they will stick to them and remain upon them in the spirit world.
one rogue stake president (mormon leader) goes crazy and orders this massacre... abusing religious power and somehow it undermines the mormon faith. Nowhere in LDS doctrine is this type of behaviour preached. It's just another pathetic attempt to smear the Church. But in the end... it will all fail.
@lilastroidgirl I can see from your last words that you are nothing but a biased propaganda spewer. What part of your scriptures/doctrine does NOT command someone to kill in the name of God? Nephi, the LDS superhero, kills Laban, Captain Moroni kills many, other people smite the wicked (e.g. decapitation)...the entire Book of Mormon is a Book of War. And "President" John Taylor went crazy. He chose to go to war with a nation that did not want or deserve his kind.
some of the comments on here or nothing more than incoherant ramblings of the unknowing! if you have any knowledge of the LDS church feel free to state your opinion,
I listen to Michael Medved alot yet on his view with Romney and Mormonism , i do not agree with him at all, he probably does not know or care the ins and outs of the Mormon belief system ie Adam and Eve did a good thing sinning against God. Ronmey said the strangest thing about his religion was people getting on a boat in a flood reffering to Noah's flood , this is NOT the oddest thing in Mormonism and Romney knows it MEdved MUST know this what is his cause about, i will call him maybe and ask
I think it is important to listen first hand to those relatives, who know first hand the people we are dealing with here. They had loved ones who lost their lives in this tragic event and this CNN newsreport tries to evaluate in a very wordly way the importance of this event in comparison to radical islam. There is no comparison, because the irony is there for those who find it, that is evil can be summed up in, in such a simple way as occuring on the same day, as it did back in 1857 and 2000
im mormon myself and find the movie pretty silly aye...but agree with the muslim lady why portray whats going on with some confused members of the islam faith when its not part of their faith yet alot of their members are being slammed,its just another stupid movie
this does not make the church false. It is still a true church of God. And the church still continues to fill the earth as being prophesied by ancient and modern prophets. Satan will always desperately do his best to destroy the church of God but he just doesn't get the chance of prevailing. to all the haters of the church, let them hate but the church will continue to grow and grow until it fills the earth.
according to the mormons it is a "true" church of god. to everyone else with a grain of common sense it is pretty obvious what this belief system is. Lies perpetuated by a paranoid schizophrenic that molested and raped young women, just so he could fulfill his own narcissistic needs and to validate himself
And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands [as prisoners of war] . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319).
It's just a movie. Just a movie. Like any other movie. Not the facts...just Jon Voights, facts....who made him, Judge and Jury......oh yea,,,,Hollywood....MMM was a tragedy. Let's learn from the past.....and not hate others because of the religion, their way of dress, the sexual preferences, the race, etc. etc. Because it was on American soil it made it more personal to people. Yea,,,,,,even 150 years ago. The LDS of today is not quilty of this crime, that one we all have to agree to.
Yeah, "good" people like Dan and Ron Lafferty, Kenyon Blackmore, Warren Jeffs, Porter Rockwell... This movie isn't a slam because the Mountain Meadows Massacre actually happened. If anyone's being slammed it ought to be Mormon leaders for trying so hard to keep it hidden. The world deserves to know what those "good and pious" people did in 1857, and how the teachings of Mormonism were centrally responsible for it.
Why does Hollywood always have expose the bad side of things lmao !
The Line 'Mormons Do Your Duty?' who whould say that ! A real mormon soilder wouldn't say that ! with so much anger ! lol And showing Prophet Brigham Young as a terrorist !? i mean what the heck ! im soo laughing
oh well at least the outside world will never know the true meaning of being humble and light hearted ! never know !
Juanita Brooks book is the definitive guide to the event. Brigham Young sent a letter that said to leave the party in peace. It didn't get there in time.
Their doctrine says that black people were created from spirit beings who were remaining neutral between the argument of Jesus and his brother Satan on how the people on earth should be taught Mormonism (choice vs. force).
No such doctrine in Mormonism regarding Black people. There were theories about the denial of priesthood for blacks but there is actually nothing in LDS scripture that supports the denial. There are a few scriptures that tell how a group of people were put from the priesthood but the denial of priesthood was interpreted into a policy in the MOrmon Church based on typical bigotry of the time Nationally. Not only within Mormonism.
Ok Mr Voight Islamist terrorists attacked America Mormons included on September 11 2001 and the Mormon Church pay the price for it.I see,Atta attacked John and John attacked his brother Jim instead of attacking Atta that attacked them.What a coward Producer and his manipulative of american voters.
Comparing muslims to mormons, is a comparison that only fucking idiots could make. The more I read and hear about mormons make me wanna join them. There some of the nicest people I've dealt with. Muslims are a bunch of cowards who are afraid to reject what the radical muslims do. Romney for President !!!
The book of Mormon has quite a bit of racism in it. It also says that to become Gods, two Mormon must be married and this has caused couples to divorce when both are not Mormon. I have heard plenty of Muslims reject extremists of their faith and I think it's unfair to label them as cowards.
"Director Christopher Cain...paints a damning, one-sided portrait of Latter-day Saints in this irresponsible, ham-fisted morality tale that plays off our cultural ignorance of the Mormon religion...The events surrounding the killings are historically cloudy, but not according to this film...He stops short of calling Osama bin Laden a Mormon sympathizer, but maybe that'll be on the DVD." - Ty Burr, Boston Globe
Actually it doesnt period. Nothing in the book of moromon saids that. Where did you get this idea. I know its not from reading the book but from your born again friends.
No I don't actually have any friends who are born again. I'll be honest, I haven't read the book and it was wrong that I made the claim. I just have seen plenty of footage of people who have been separated from their partners because of the religion. And yes, don't trust the media and all that but the point I was trying to get at was that not all Muslims are extremists and that they are not cowards and that the Mormon religion is far from perfect.
Also (again this is only media) it apparently says something in the book of Mormon of people being cursed with black skin. I think it was because they remained undecided or something between good and evil. I don't remember the story too well but apparently that was the explanation as to why people have black skin. That's a common story I have heard. I shouldn't have stated it as true, and I'm working on being more responsible with my wording but that was the racism I was referring to.
Im sorry but it doesnt say anything about being curse with black skin in the book of mormon. Im not trying to be mean. I think its best if you read the book your self and make your decision. You should always go directly to the source. I currently studying muslims and I going directly to the person that works with me. Internet is fill with truths and lies. Its best to talk to someone who is mormon. You sound intelligent I believe you know what to do know.
Well if I ever meet a Mormon, I'll have to ask about it. Since I haven't though, only real source of information I've got is the Internet. I don't actually think theres very many Mormons in Britain to be honest. Seems to be more of an American thing.
The movie director and what they depict on this movie is so far out that is laughable. The killings did happen, but accusing the Mormon leaders of condoning the event is simply ludicrous. The facts portrayed in this movie are fiction, for the most part. But hey, someone out there, mostly liberal assholes, are finally realizing that Romney is doing everything right to compete for the presidency of the U.S. so whatever they can do to smear "mormons", they figure, is fair game.
Nir, did you read the Book of Mormon.?Id envourage you to because you are clearly cluelless about its content except for a few tiny points which you relay incorrectly.Nor are you knowledgable about the Chucrh, its people or its history.Id encourage you to do proper research.Captain Moroni killed people in defence. He did not go out to make war and when he had power over his enemy he showed mercy, allowing men to make vows and go free.The kings men were traitors and as in Americas past punished
llewellleo 10 months ago
Give Hollywood time! Someone had to be first! Happened to be the Mormons!
farranspointon 11 months ago
Just as Indians were falsely accused as being perpetrators and Immigrants were accused of being terrorists, so with the WTC/911 event:: The lying false accusers are those in control:: The Mormon Church in 1857 and a secret gov't within the gov't did 911/WTC. Both parties controlled the media flow, too. Mormons were perps and covered it up and falsely accused others of crimes Mormons committed. It's called a conspiracy. Mormons declared martial law and deprived others of rights. Sounds familiar?
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
Religion is bullshit! All of them.
bushantichrist 1 year ago
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eitoobmiz 1 year ago
I thought it was a pretty good movie...two thumbs up!
jlcarter1970 1 year ago
Yeah, why not instead of portraying terrorism committed by a prominent corpo-church that has wealth and power in our society portray the mostly fictional, state approved and advertised threat of radical islam? White ignorance ftw.
Ril74 1 year ago
wtf does this movie have to do with Islamic terrorism? NOTHING. obscure event? You want a movie about that? Wasn't the twin tower footage enough? What kind of news is this?
HelTra91 1 year ago
My fav character,one of the most prominent in the film,the young Mormon that disagreed with what was happening & spoke out against it. I don't know if his character was based on a real person or not?
It shows that the leaders of THiS Mormon group followed blindly the decision to kill the people...believing they were doing God's will.They chose that day to kill unarmed people. It might have not been done exactly as this movie portrayed,but we can learn from it..if not the movie,the event.
rukiddin1 1 year ago
Hollywood is afraid of offending the Muslims...spineless people.
okesaita 1 year ago
A movie that really deserves... to be ignored. And that's fortunately what most people do.
Troul478 1 year ago
Brigham Young- "There are sins that men commit for which they cannot receive forgiveness in this world, or in that which is to come, and if they had their eyes open to see their true condition, they would be perfectly willing to have their blood spilt upon the ground, that the smoke thereof might ascend to heaven as an offering for their sins; and the smoking incense would atone for their sins, whereas, if such is not the case, they will stick to them and remain upon them in the spirit world.
campcook88 1 year ago
one rogue stake president (mormon leader) goes crazy and orders this massacre... abusing religious power and somehow it undermines the mormon faith. Nowhere in LDS doctrine is this type of behaviour preached. It's just another pathetic attempt to smear the Church. But in the end... it will all fail.
lilastroidgirl 2 years ago 4
@lilastroidgirl I can see from your last words that you are nothing but a biased propaganda spewer. What part of your scriptures/doctrine does NOT command someone to kill in the name of God? Nephi, the LDS superhero, kills Laban, Captain Moroni kills many, other people smite the wicked (e.g. decapitation)...the entire Book of Mormon is a Book of War. And "President" John Taylor went crazy. He chose to go to war with a nation that did not want or deserve his kind.
nir085 1 year ago
some of the comments on here or nothing more than incoherant ramblings of the unknowing! if you have any knowledge of the LDS church feel free to state your opinion,
209075 2 years ago
I listen to Michael Medved alot yet on his view with Romney and Mormonism , i do not agree with him at all, he probably does not know or care the ins and outs of the Mormon belief system ie Adam and Eve did a good thing sinning against God. Ronmey said the strangest thing about his religion was people getting on a boat in a flood reffering to Noah's flood , this is NOT the oddest thing in Mormonism and Romney knows it MEdved MUST know this what is his cause about, i will call him maybe and ask
nashaunconwell 2 years ago
There are many evil minded people on American soil, just as there is elsewhere as well.
rustymente 2 years ago
I think it is important to listen first hand to those relatives, who know first hand the people we are dealing with here. They had loved ones who lost their lives in this tragic event and this CNN newsreport tries to evaluate in a very wordly way the importance of this event in comparison to radical islam. There is no comparison, because the irony is there for those who find it, that is evil can be summed up in, in such a simple way as occuring on the same day, as it did back in 1857 and 2000
rustymente 2 years ago
im mormon myself and find the movie pretty silly aye...but agree with the muslim lady why portray whats going on with some confused members of the islam faith when its not part of their faith yet alot of their members are being slammed,its just another stupid movie
skakimalaki 2 years ago
Love how they call it a Hollywood movie, when there is little hollywood in it.
smileymiley2576 2 years ago
this does not make the church false. It is still a true church of God. And the church still continues to fill the earth as being prophesied by ancient and modern prophets. Satan will always desperately do his best to destroy the church of God but he just doesn't get the chance of prevailing. to all the haters of the church, let them hate but the church will continue to grow and grow until it fills the earth.
josedanielacuna 2 years ago
according to the mormons it is a "true" church of god. to everyone else with a grain of common sense it is pretty obvious what this belief system is. Lies perpetuated by a paranoid schizophrenic that molested and raped young women, just so he could fulfill his own narcissistic needs and to validate himself
spydernyne983 2 years ago
"islamonazi terrorism?" WTF?
snidelywhiplash 2 years ago 2
fools, they don't make films like that because they wont sell
yunaxxx 3 years ago
It's not only the book Mormon's that inspires racism in it,a quote from the Quran;
Ishaq:374 "The black troops and slaves of the Meccans cried out and
the Muslims replied, 'Allah destroy your sight, you impious
rascals.'"
N below , Slave—girls are sexual property for their male owners.
The Quran in Sura 4:24 says:
And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands [as prisoners of war] . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319).
Most religions are racist!
harjpannu 3 years ago
It's just a movie. Just a movie. Like any other movie. Not the facts...just Jon Voights, facts....who made him, Judge and Jury......oh yea,,,,Hollywood....MMM was a tragedy. Let's learn from the past.....and not hate others because of the religion, their way of dress, the sexual preferences, the race, etc. etc. Because it was on American soil it made it more personal to people. Yea,,,,,,even 150 years ago. The LDS of today is not quilty of this crime, that one we all have to agree to.
lyra2008 3 years ago
hollywood slams mormons because they know they wont backlash or sue them..because their a good people
savm12345 3 years ago
Yeah, "good" people like Dan and Ron Lafferty, Kenyon Blackmore, Warren Jeffs, Porter Rockwell... This movie isn't a slam because the Mountain Meadows Massacre actually happened. If anyone's being slammed it ought to be Mormon leaders for trying so hard to keep it hidden. The world deserves to know what those "good and pious" people did in 1857, and how the teachings of Mormonism were centrally responsible for it.
StriderKaijin 2 years ago
It's a fucking movie, not a documentary, get over it!!!
A contemporary movie where arabs are depicted as violent, how about "The Kingdom" you FUCKTARDS!!!!!
msanchez007 3 years ago 3
arabs from the middle east are like that. not arabs in europe and the americas
spydernyne983 2 years ago
Great Story CNN !
Why does Hollywood always have expose the bad side of things lmao !
The Line 'Mormons Do Your Duty?' who whould say that ! A real mormon soilder wouldn't say that ! with so much anger ! lol And showing Prophet Brigham Young as a terrorist !? i mean what the heck ! im soo laughing
oh well at least the outside world will never know the true meaning of being humble and light hearted ! never know !
LDS Represent !
Brisbane ways ! =]
Bundamba08 3 years ago
2:30 > "We still see depictions of Muslims as terrorists, as barbaric..."
We still see Muslims, in worrying numbers, being both of those things, every day.
Grundibular 4 years ago
im not mormon, but i had a drama teacher who was and he was a good guy
Tallacus 4 years ago
Hollywood is bullshit.
imnvrgvnup 4 years ago 2
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rustymente 4 years ago
Juanita Brooks book is the definitive guide to the event. Brigham Young sent a letter that said to leave the party in peace. It didn't get there in time.
bytebear 3 years ago
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rustymente 4 years ago
Their doctrine says that black people were created from spirit beings who were remaining neutral between the argument of Jesus and his brother Satan on how the people on earth should be taught Mormonism (choice vs. force).
scubielouie 4 years ago
No such doctrine in Mormonism regarding Black people. There were theories about the denial of priesthood for blacks but there is actually nothing in LDS scripture that supports the denial. There are a few scriptures that tell how a group of people were put from the priesthood but the denial of priesthood was interpreted into a policy in the MOrmon Church based on typical bigotry of the time Nationally. Not only within Mormonism.
Jacksonholenativ 4 years ago
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rustymente 4 years ago
Ok Mr Voight Islamist terrorists attacked America Mormons included on September 11 2001 and the Mormon Church pay the price for it.I see,Atta attacked John and John attacked his brother Jim instead of attacking Atta that attacked them.What a coward Producer and his manipulative of american voters.
01070510 4 years ago
All religion is poison.
Jesus sucks Allah's cock.
rev30 4 years ago
Comparing muslims to mormons, is a comparison that only fucking idiots could make. The more I read and hear about mormons make me wanna join them. There some of the nicest people I've dealt with. Muslims are a bunch of cowards who are afraid to reject what the radical muslims do. Romney for President !!!
sergiocss 4 years ago 2
The book of Mormon has quite a bit of racism in it. It also says that to become Gods, two Mormon must be married and this has caused couples to divorce when both are not Mormon. I have heard plenty of Muslims reject extremists of their faith and I think it's unfair to label them as cowards.
olliegibbons 4 years ago
"Director Christopher Cain...paints a damning, one-sided portrait of Latter-day Saints in this irresponsible, ham-fisted morality tale that plays off our cultural ignorance of the Mormon religion...The events surrounding the killings are historically cloudy, but not according to this film...He stops short of calling Osama bin Laden a Mormon sympathizer, but maybe that'll be on the DVD." - Ty Burr, Boston Globe
smpf38 4 years ago
Actually it doesnt period. Nothing in the book of moromon saids that. Where did you get this idea. I know its not from reading the book but from your born again friends.
amnesty7890 4 years ago
No I don't actually have any friends who are born again. I'll be honest, I haven't read the book and it was wrong that I made the claim. I just have seen plenty of footage of people who have been separated from their partners because of the religion. And yes, don't trust the media and all that but the point I was trying to get at was that not all Muslims are extremists and that they are not cowards and that the Mormon religion is far from perfect.
olliegibbons 4 years ago
Also (again this is only media) it apparently says something in the book of Mormon of people being cursed with black skin. I think it was because they remained undecided or something between good and evil. I don't remember the story too well but apparently that was the explanation as to why people have black skin. That's a common story I have heard. I shouldn't have stated it as true, and I'm working on being more responsible with my wording but that was the racism I was referring to.
olliegibbons 4 years ago
Im sorry but it doesnt say anything about being curse with black skin in the book of mormon. Im not trying to be mean. I think its best if you read the book your self and make your decision. You should always go directly to the source. I currently studying muslims and I going directly to the person that works with me. Internet is fill with truths and lies. Its best to talk to someone who is mormon. You sound intelligent I believe you know what to do know.
amnesty7890 4 years ago
Well if I ever meet a Mormon, I'll have to ask about it. Since I haven't though, only real source of information I've got is the Internet. I don't actually think theres very many Mormons in Britain to be honest. Seems to be more of an American thing.
olliegibbons 4 years ago
and you are very lucky for that
hhein01 3 years ago
the race of cain it talks of, b.y. always talked about race and how the whites shouldn't go together with the blacks
hhein01 3 years ago
The movie director and what they depict on this movie is so far out that is laughable. The killings did happen, but accusing the Mormon leaders of condoning the event is simply ludicrous. The facts portrayed in this movie are fiction, for the most part. But hey, someone out there, mostly liberal assholes, are finally realizing that Romney is doing everything right to compete for the presidency of the U.S. so whatever they can do to smear "mormons", they figure, is fair game.
sergiocss 4 years ago 2
hollywood sucks, go youtube!
moveoverdotorg 4 years ago