"Hurricane Mk XIIA Single-seat fighter and fighter-bomber. Powered by a 1,300 hp (969 kW) Packard Merlin 29, armed with eight 0.303 in (7.7 mm) machine guns. "
Hurricanes were slower than spits but more stable as a gun platform. While the spits chased the FW 190's and Me 109's the Hurricanes hunted the Ju88's and He 111's.
Douglas Bader sure liked them. My father flew both Hurricanes and Spits, as well as Mosquitos and Typhoons. He loved the Spits until the day he died.
WWII pilots have pointed out that Spitfires targetting fighters is an urban legend, Spitfire squadrons and Hurricane squadrons both fought in the same way, Dive in from above hit what was infront of them and get away avoiding fighters. Hurricane shot down more fighters than spitfires and more bombers than Spitfires simply because there were more Hurricanes flying than Spitfires and damaged Hurricanes were easier to repair and get back into service.
Lets set the record straight. In 11,400 traceable air to air combat reports (Forms 1151) covering all RAF fighter pilot's claims for the whole of the War, 55% were by Hurricane pilots, 33% by Spitfire pilots and 12% by pilots of other fighters. The Hurricane fought in more theatres than the Spitfire.
@hudsongeoff That's probaly because the hurricane had a different job, now im might be worng, but I belive the Spitfire kinda lacked in distance with fuel so it kinda stayed near base and faught of the bombers and stuff, while the hurricanes would go out and defend bombers and attack ennemys. I could be worng, but I got this idea by putting together all me knoledge about this stuff.I heard Spitfires lacked in range, in simulaters and stuff the hurricanes would go out and attack and other stuff
The Spit will remain more popular than the Hurricane.But to me it was one beautiful flying machine.While in school we had to do reports/papers/research on WWII planes.Most chose 51's,and Spits.I for some reason chose the Hurricane.(loved the wing design).
@Tabby266 Strange you said that....we gotta be the silent majority.I always thought the Hurricane had a much more asthetic profile than the Spit side on.But when viewed from above or below I think the Spit takes the edge....I like chocolate AND vanilla too.
@unapro3 I know that the remaining Hurricanes were given to USSR as soon as Spit Vs were available which itself was outclassed by the German planes within 6 months of coming out
@PeterS339 Oh come on! it was the Morris Marina of its time and the 11C was the the Ital. It was placed in the delicious situation of having a free run on the absurd Heinkels and Stukas while the Spits went for the 109s. I actually knew someone who flew a Hurri though not in combat and he said its worst flaw (of many) was its lack of visibililty from't cockpit but in fairness it could do a 180 without losing height and never barrelled
Myth. in the heat of battle, formations were broken up and it was every man for himself. Think about it, the hurricane accounted for 2/3rds of all german losses. the remaining 1/3rd was the combined total of the other british fighters, spits, defiants, battles etc.
@TopGunSGA That's a good one; I'd bet most air buffs aren't aware of that those models had Packard Merlins in them.
And BTW: the list of planes with Merlins is way too long to assemble here. I had no idea just how many there were.when I posed the challenge. I looked it up and was astonished!
@NVanWendy I'm thinking that the aerodynamics of the Hirricane really affected performance, plus let's not forget the effect of the Hurricanes' original two bladed fixed pitch wooden propeller. That CERTAINLY affected performance.
@panzerrat The Hurricane's biplane origins are quite apparent if you look at a 3-view, what with those rounded lines and thick wings. From above, it looks well balanced and a natural flier, but it does NOT say "fast"! That 2-blade prop disappeared pretty quick, but it didn't turn it into a modern plane.
PS: Nice to chat with one of the very few people on YT who can use "effect" and "affect" correctly!
@NVanWendy, you may already know this but there was even a biplane version of the Hurricane (of sorts). It was a prototype to trial the 'slip wing' concept - A detachable upper wing that was jettisoned after take off. The aim was to improve the short take-off capabilities of the aircraft but it never went into operational service.
@pete2778 I do seem to recall seeing a photo of a Hurricane outfitted with a second wing, now that you mention it. Gimmicky things like that never do work, do they? 8-)
The main good points about the Hurri were: a) excellent gun platform, 4 m/guns grouped together on each wing so great concentration of fire and b) it could absord a hell of a lot of battle damage & still return to base and also you could land the kite very heavily and it would absorb & forgive the shock due to its wider landing wheel base. Its wheels (as opposed to the Spit) retracted inwards. However the Spit was a more modern design hence the greater number of model modifications.
I'm amazed at how this Hurricane vs Spitfire argument continues even to this day!
Here is a fact. If we only had Hurris, then we would have been in big trouble. The fact that the Spits were put on the 109's says it all.
109's were more than a match for the dear old Hurricane, so the TWO British planes were a perfect compliment to each other. Let the Hot Rod go after the enemy's Hot Rod and let the 'tank' destroy those bloody bombers!
Sure the 109 had the edge on the Hurri ,but she still acheived quite a number of kills against the 109.
In a perfect world your Spits take on the 109,s whilst the Hurri,s tackel the bombers would have been great but listen to the vet,s who were actually there and you,ll find that it was seldom the case.
Yes Hurris did mingle with 109's and in the right hands and the right circumstances could hold their own.
This still doesn't remove the fact that without the Spitfire things could have been quite different. You seem to assume that I love the Spit more than the Hurri, which is simply not the case.
I love both planes equally and have built more Hurris than Spits over the years.
We were lucky to have BOTH of them when we needed them.
Hawker Hurricane mk 2 win the ww2 notb the Spitfire. the Hawker Hurricane just did not look as good as the Spitfire so the Spitfire was the pin up not the winner of ww2.
@morgandude2 actually the Hurricane claimed more fighter kills than the Spitfire. One source quotes it as high as 77% during the Battle of Britain. The Spit was a PR aircraft designed by RJ Mitchell. During wargames in 1938 the RAF pitted the two aircraft against one another. The best kill ratio the Spit ever achieved was at 25,000 ft (1-1); otherwise the Hurri decimated the Spit. In addition the 109E had such a heavy wing weight that it had difficulties fighting against the P-40C
the hurricane was a far better gun platform and also better at taking hits especially between the pilot and tail 20mm shells would pass straight through without going off plus it was easier to repair depending on the damage of course
Thats not a fact. The Hurricane along with the Spitfire both had superior handling, greater manoeuvrability (mostly), lower wing loading, and lighter control forces at high speeds. The Hurricane, though inferior to the Spit was capable against 109s.
the huricane might have been older and less advanced but it was tough as hell and thanks to being made of canvas it could just let rounds pass through and keep going
Figures vary, but according to reliable sources, RAF Fighter Command's order of battle numbered 27 Hurricane and 19 Spitfire squadrons plus six Blenheim F and two Defiant squadrons.
According to the official RAF website, "A total of 1,715 Hurricanes flew with Fighter Command during the period of the Battle, far in excess of all other British fighters combined." (Spitifres, Gladiators, Defiants and Blenheim IF's)
Hurricanes claimed 55 percent of Fighter Command's victories.
well, because they took care of the bombers which was easier targets and because they were in larger numbers than the spits. the spitfire was far superior. ask any german pilot!
February 1940, Bader joined No. 19 Squadron flying Spitfires
April 1940, appointed flight commander 222 Squadron, reequipping from Blenheim bombers to Spitfires.
June 1940, Bader was given command 242 Squadron flying Hurricanes during Battle of Britain
When the Battle of Britain ended, Bader, left 242 Squadron took over the "Tangmere Wing." Consisting of three Spitfire Squadrons - 145, 610 and 616. Until August 9, 1941, he collided with a Bf-109 over France, baled out and captured.
There's been a lot of conjecture about Bader's 'collision' with the Bf109, certainly the operational losses for the unit his squadron encountered that day didn't account for a collision & a recent historical study of his crash suggests that he was the victim of a blue on blue mistake. Bader may have made up the collision story as he didn't want it known that anyone had been able to get a bead on him! Unfortunately, they couldn't locate the wreckage of his aircraft to prove or disprove the facts.
mate, if it wasnt for the Hurricane, the whole world would have entered the "new dark age". It's way overdue that this aircraft was given the credit it deserves. Sorry spit fans, but the Hurricane would've won the BOB by itself without spits regardless.
Actually modern British war historians have concluded that even if RAF lost the battle Operation Sealion would most likely have failed anyway. You see the Germans didn't have enough landing ships to make an effective invasion and the Royal Navy was far from beaten, and were patrolling the coast where a likely German invasion would happen. Even if the navy would take a beating from the german airforce they still would take many with them and sink lots of landing ships.
In those days Germany mostly had Panzer I's,II's and III's all of which could be knocked out by the 2-pounder anti-tank gun. Not to mention the landing zones were mined and clearing all that would have taken time the Germans didn't have. If the Germans were bogged down in whatever small foothold they had, they would eventually loose and they knew this all too well themselves.
Hitler actually hoped Britain would "chicken out" and make peace with Germany, leaving his back free...
True, but the Hurricane was used to attack bombers and downing as many of them as possible. Indeed a Hurricane could easily down any slow Stuka or Heinkel bomber, but they let the Spitfires go after the Messerschmitt fighters.
The Hurricane could take a lot of beating though, and if anything broke or was shot to pieces, replacing it was fairly simple.
Later version of the Hurricane equipped with 40mm cannons were called can openers for what they did to German tanks in Africa.
@ToonandBBfan there were a few planes out of WW2 which had big caliber cannons on them...don't forget about the later Stukas, the Me 410, and B-25 for example
@ToonandBBfan They both did it together without them both we wouldn't of won the hurricanes whent for the bombers and the spitfires whent for the fighters Thats how it was!
@ToonandBBfan No. The Hurricane shot down the most German bombers, but it was the Spitfire that did the most dog fighting and shot down more German fighter planes.
Personally, I think it even looks cooler than the Spitfire.
The Mustang was a great plane with the Allison engine at low altitudes. Like the P-40 before it, it was originally designed for low level work as a ground support aircraft. It was ONLY at higher altitudes that the Allison engine lost performance and this is where the fighter was placed to escort American bombers in DAYLIGHT raids over Germany while the British bombers flew under the cover of DARKNESS at night.
Merlin engine sounds great. That engine was the reason we won the war and it was british. No one could get near it. The p51 was garbage until it was fitted with a Merlin.
Hawker Hurricane, the totally forgotten hero of the Battle of Britain. Had it not been for the Hurricane...Na ja, wer weiss was dann passieren wäre!!!
It wasn't as pretty as the Spitfire, but it was a very effective gun platform. If not for the Hurricanes, I believe the Battle of Britain might have gone pear shaped for Britain.
I notice this model has the oil collection ring immediately behind the prop, this model was known for throwing oil back onto the windscreen perhaps from the constant speed propeller unit? I think some spitfires may have also had this problem
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The Hawker Hurricane was built in canada.
This baby was designed by Elsie MacGill (Canadian), she was called "The queen of Hurricane".Elsie was the first female engineer in the world, and she create one of the most powerful aircraft in world war two. The Hawker was create by a canadian train industry called : Canadian Car and Foundry, later purchase by Avro Canada.
Isn't a british made, but canadian made don't search shitty information on Wikipedia
Hawker Aircraft was a British company, not Canadian, in which was the primary founder and designer of the Hawker Hurricane. Canada did, however, manufacture Its own line of Hurricanes, and as of that it also produced its own range of Lancaster Bombers too.
you are looking at the most gorgeous and amazing aircraft of world war 2.
The hurricane was the daddy, much more forgiving than the spit, a better gun platform than the spit, easier to repair than the spit and more kills than the spit. It was always overlooked by the spitfire. The hurricane needs the credit it deserves. A true work horse.
It does deserve its credit for the role it played. But if Hurricane was the king, the Spitfire was the heir. Spitfire is far more elegant, outclassing the hurricane on all fronts.
@jfoster21 you sure are right-Hawker Hurricane credited with 60% of kills in Battle of Britain, the most important air battle in the history of man and war
@darkmossie633 the reason why the hurricane shot down more aircraft is quite simple, the hurricanes job was to knock the german bombers out while the spitfires flew cover for them. There we far more hurricanes in service than spitfires in 1940 and it was always going to harder to down 109's if the hurricanes are shooting down the dornier and heinkels! Not taking anything away from the hurricane it was a great, but after 1941 as a pure fighter it was obsolete.
@jfoster21 it's been given plenty of credit by those who know, but i'm sorry it doesn't have more kills than the spitfire, it did during the battle of britain.
it was ment for the spit fire to draw the attention of the me 109s, because the the spitfire is faster and more manuverable than the huricane. once the fighter escort was away and distrcted by the spitfires, the huricanes would then concentrate on attacking the bombers. The huricane had a higher kill rate beacuse there were a few me 109s to guard many bombers
Hurricanes kicked some serious ass don't doubt it....this one is hitting half throttle at best, i recall the sound of Merlin engines being caned at airshows past (before health and safety) you never heard such a fantastic noise in your dreams
Hurricane shot down more fighters and bombers in the battle of Britian than the Spitfire. The Hurricane Fuselage was of a unique mixed construction which enabled it to absorb great damage.The fabric covering/mixed metal-wood construction) meant that explosive or armor peircing rounds would pass through the A/C, unlike the Spit (metal skin) which would not. The down side is that the Hurricane took a LOT longer to build!!!
Well when you look at Hurricane re-builders, they take up to 3 times as long to do than a Spit, now it may be that there are more spit restores, but they state the initial construction of Sydney camms masterpeice is difficult to produce, as it was during the war. The probable cause is that most factory workers were familiar with a mixed construction ( Nimrod,Guantlet,gladiator etc.) yet not familar with complex curves (spits) so you and I are both correct, just how you look at "builiding" them!
The Spitfires problem was that they took so long to construct. Hurricanes made up the bulk of the RAF because they were cheap and easy to build. In my opinion, it is a better creation than the Spit and doesn't get the credit that it deserves. Unfortuanately, it wasn't good enough to overshadow the Spit but precisely because of that, it does win my heart.
Finnish fighter pilots estimated that Hawker Hurricane was easiest russian aircraft to shut down in 1942-43. In one stage even half of russian fighters been shut down were these overrated Hurricanes.
Interesting pov, timo. But a quote from Karhunen, Captain and commander of the 3rd flight of LeLv 24, recalled: "The Brewster model 239 was good against the older Russian fighters, Polikarpov I-153 Chaika (Gull) and I-16. Hence the period 1941-42 was the best time for us. In 1943 it was already significantly more difficult when the Russians began to use their newer fighters against us... Later, with the Yaks, Hurricanes, Tomahawks, LaGG-3 and MiGs, it became a fight to the death."
Real nice vid. Thanks...I totaly agree with Albert Sjoberg..The Hurricane is my favorite of the ww2 fighters. Sure the Spitfire has pretty lines but the Hurricane is so beautiful..I flew a linecontroled model of it as a chlid in the late 70´s. I also like the sound of the Merlin engine..=)
Hurricane was the only fighter to see action on every front during WW2, from Eastern Europe, to mediterannean, to Burma, to China...unsure of the Aleutian Islands,thou if these not be be made less important, didn't receive the propaganda the other theatres happened to so receive
you are looking at the most gorgeous, graceful, magnificent and greatest aircraft of WW2 their gents.. a true beauty!! thanks for posting a great vid of a great plane.
The plane that saved Britain. Were it not for the privately funded Hurri, England would have entered the Battle of Britain with Hinds and Bulldogs and the like, and been slaughtered.
I am afraid a classic-looking jetliner (like boeing or airbus) is more recognized as a symbol. Do not forget cessna, also more recognized but not always correctly named.
Is this a genuine Mk.I? Or is it a "downgraded" Mk.II?
FredDude27 1 week ago
@FredDude27
This particular aircraft is a Hurricane Mk.XII, a Canadian-built variant, powered by a 1,300 hp (969 kW) Packard Merlin 29.
propfan2k 1 week ago
@propfan2k
"Hurricane Mk XIIA Single-seat fighter and fighter-bomber. Powered by a 1,300 hp (969 kW) Packard Merlin 29, armed with eight 0.303 in (7.7 mm) machine guns. "
Awesome :)
FredDude27 1 week ago
Hurricanes were slower than spits but more stable as a gun platform. While the spits chased the FW 190's and Me 109's the Hurricanes hunted the Ju88's and He 111's.
Douglas Bader sure liked them. My father flew both Hurricanes and Spits, as well as Mosquitos and Typhoons. He loved the Spits until the day he died.
bwoodward0949 1 month ago
the spitfire was great and fast but the hawker hurricane was AMAZING without it we would of lost
j0hnnyisAB3ST 1 month ago
Under rated aviation legend
SuperMISTERW 5 months ago in playlist planes
this plane gets no respect
Brian79camino 5 months ago
@Brian79camino No attention more like. This plane pretty much won the Battle of Britain.
Typhoon10UK 3 months ago
I think most of the pilots would love to fly on one of the classic fighters! At least I would!
willjack2106 5 months ago
I am a big fan of Spitfires, but I know it was the Hurricane, who won the Battle of Britain.
George from the Czech republic.
kloakovalimonada 6 months ago
spitfire is better
Bender2522 9 months ago
WWII pilots have pointed out that Spitfires targetting fighters is an urban legend, Spitfire squadrons and Hurricane squadrons both fought in the same way, Dive in from above hit what was infront of them and get away avoiding fighters. Hurricane shot down more fighters than spitfires and more bombers than Spitfires simply because there were more Hurricanes flying than Spitfires and damaged Hurricanes were easier to repair and get back into service.
andygoth 11 months ago
This is my favorite fighter of the war, if you were a HE 111 you would know right away what it was when eight 303's open up on ya!.
AgentMorris94 11 months ago
Lets set the record straight. In 11,400 traceable air to air combat reports (Forms 1151) covering all RAF fighter pilot's claims for the whole of the War, 55% were by Hurricane pilots, 33% by Spitfire pilots and 12% by pilots of other fighters. The Hurricane fought in more theatres than the Spitfire.
hudsongeoff 11 months ago 6
@hudsongeoff That's probaly because the hurricane had a different job, now im might be worng, but I belive the Spitfire kinda lacked in distance with fuel so it kinda stayed near base and faught of the bombers and stuff, while the hurricanes would go out and defend bombers and attack ennemys. I could be worng, but I got this idea by putting together all me knoledge about this stuff.I heard Spitfires lacked in range, in simulaters and stuff the hurricanes would go out and attack and other stuff
potctk 2 months ago
Beautiful aircraft! I don't have a favorite, but the Hawker is in my top five for sure!
nagant1934 1 year ago
It's the sound of a can of whoopass being opened!
F14ace 1 year ago
the best
MpsAREthieves 1 year ago
The Spit will remain more popular than the Hurricane.But to me it was one beautiful flying machine.While in school we had to do reports/papers/research on WWII planes.Most chose 51's,and Spits.I for some reason chose the Hurricane.(loved the wing design).
We found out the Hawker Hurricane Kicked Ass !
nightmoves4444 1 year ago
Mk.IIb or Canadian equivalent?? A beauty of an aeroplane, either way!!
MrThunderbolt56 1 year ago
yay, the plane that won the war :)
BringEllisTheHoriZon 1 year ago
Oh yes indeed it's Merline engine goose bump time, beautiful!
Thanks for posting
PS. My Auntie built spits in Woolston, Southampton in WWII!
eelsman1 1 year ago
love the hurricane
purplefurball 1 year ago
Beauty in motion. The Merlin is music to the ears. Love the Hurricane.
blank557 1 year ago
sgort nose 8 syl, engine?
nolifemerc 1 year ago
@nolifemerc
The Hurricane uses a V-12 Rolls Royce Merlin Engine
propfan2k 1 year ago 4
I like the Hurricane better than the Spitfire. I am NOT flaming the Spitfire but I still like the Hurricane better.
Tabby266 1 year ago
@Tabby266 Strange you said that....we gotta be the silent majority.I always thought the Hurricane had a much more asthetic profile than the Spit side on.But when viewed from above or below I think the Spit takes the edge....I like chocolate AND vanilla too.
FoulOwl 1 year ago
I applaud anyone who actually managed to shoot down enemy planes in such a slow, ponderous plane with its pea-shooter guns!
dimgwalltameiben 1 year ago
@dimgwalltameiben clearly you now nothing of the Hurricane...
unapro3 1 year ago
@unapro3 I know that the remaining Hurricanes were given to USSR as soon as Spit Vs were available which itself was outclassed by the German planes within 6 months of coming out
dimgwalltameiben 1 year ago
@dimgwalltameiben this plane saved the western world as we know it along with the spitfire im afraid that is a fact
PeterS339 1 year ago
@PeterS339 Oh come on! it was the Morris Marina of its time and the 11C was the the Ital. It was placed in the delicious situation of having a free run on the absurd Heinkels and Stukas while the Spits went for the 109s. I actually knew someone who flew a Hurri though not in combat and he said its worst flaw (of many) was its lack of visibililty from't cockpit but in fairness it could do a 180 without losing height and never barrelled
dimgwalltameiben 1 year ago
@dimgwalltameiben
Myth. in the heat of battle, formations were broken up and it was every man for himself. Think about it, the hurricane accounted for 2/3rds of all german losses. the remaining 1/3rd was the combined total of the other british fighters, spits, defiants, battles etc.
TheFunnydoll 1 year ago
@PeterS339 Yep, teamwork. The right tools for the job. Personaly i love them both, if i had to choose one........well, the Spit by a whisker.
MITCHWILD 1 year ago
Best flying tank until the advent of the P-47. The Hurricane is a beautiful aircraft!
panzerrat 1 year ago
Rep or real?
transonicbuoy1 1 year ago
Okay, all you experts, let's have a list: How many airplanes of the war were Merlin-powered?
Spitfire
Hurricane
Mustang
Mosquito
Lancaster
??
NVanWendy 1 year ago
the P-40F and the P-40L both had Merlins too
TopGunSGA 1 year ago
@TopGunSGA That's a good one; I'd bet most air buffs aren't aware of that those models had Packard Merlins in them.
And BTW: the list of planes with Merlins is way too long to assemble here. I had no idea just how many there were.when I posed the challenge. I looked it up and was astonished!
NVanWendy 1 year ago
@NVanWendy I'm thinking that the aerodynamics of the Hirricane really affected performance, plus let's not forget the effect of the Hurricanes' original two bladed fixed pitch wooden propeller. That CERTAINLY affected performance.
panzerrat 1 year ago
@panzerrat The Hurricane's biplane origins are quite apparent if you look at a 3-view, what with those rounded lines and thick wings. From above, it looks well balanced and a natural flier, but it does NOT say "fast"! That 2-blade prop disappeared pretty quick, but it didn't turn it into a modern plane.
PS: Nice to chat with one of the very few people on YT who can use "effect" and "affect" correctly!
NVanWendy 1 year ago
@NVanWendy, you may already know this but there was even a biplane version of the Hurricane (of sorts). It was a prototype to trial the 'slip wing' concept - A detachable upper wing that was jettisoned after take off. The aim was to improve the short take-off capabilities of the aircraft but it never went into operational service.
pete2778 1 year ago
@pete2778 I do seem to recall seeing a photo of a Hurricane outfitted with a second wing, now that you mention it. Gimmicky things like that never do work, do they? 8-)
NVanWendy 1 year ago
The main good points about the Hurri were: a) excellent gun platform, 4 m/guns grouped together on each wing so great concentration of fire and b) it could absord a hell of a lot of battle damage & still return to base and also you could land the kite very heavily and it would absorb & forgive the shock due to its wider landing wheel base. Its wheels (as opposed to the Spit) retracted inwards. However the Spit was a more modern design hence the greater number of model modifications.
ThePhantomMajor 1 year ago
the hawker hurrican was awesome,
94Clubsport 1 year ago
nice thanks...
MyDavid1960 2 years ago
hurricane was a great bomber killer and ground attack aircraft.
diveplane 2 years ago
Bloody solid ground attack gun platform.
sketchmeister 1 year ago
"Big trouble"? Only an Englishman wud have the choice between the get-up-and-go-RAF- - and the solid, deep, steel of the Royal Navy. T.
transonicbuoy1 2 years ago
Where's this airfield?
transonicbuoy1 2 years ago
Geneseo, NY which about an hour south of Rochester and an hour East of Buffalo, in the good ol' USA
propfan2k 2 years ago
I'm amazed at how this Hurricane vs Spitfire argument continues even to this day!
Here is a fact. If we only had Hurris, then we would have been in big trouble. The fact that the Spits were put on the 109's says it all.
109's were more than a match for the dear old Hurricane, so the TWO British planes were a perfect compliment to each other. Let the Hot Rod go after the enemy's Hot Rod and let the 'tank' destroy those bloody bombers!
morgandude2 2 years ago
Sure the 109 had the edge on the Hurri ,but she still acheived quite a number of kills against the 109.
In a perfect world your Spits take on the 109,s whilst the Hurri,s tackel the bombers would have been great but listen to the vet,s who were actually there and you,ll find that it was seldom the case.
psjdb 2 years ago
@psjdb
Yes Hurris did mingle with 109's and in the right hands and the right circumstances could hold their own.
This still doesn't remove the fact that without the Spitfire things could have been quite different. You seem to assume that I love the Spit more than the Hurri, which is simply not the case.
I love both planes equally and have built more Hurris than Spits over the years.
We were lucky to have BOTH of them when we needed them.
morgandude2 2 years ago
Hawker Hurricane mk 2 win the ww2 notb the Spitfire. the Hawker Hurricane just did not look as good as the Spitfire so the Spitfire was the pin up not the winner of ww2.
allinpryce 2 years ago
@morgandude2 actually the Hurricane claimed more fighter kills than the Spitfire. One source quotes it as high as 77% during the Battle of Britain. The Spit was a PR aircraft designed by RJ Mitchell. During wargames in 1938 the RAF pitted the two aircraft against one another. The best kill ratio the Spit ever achieved was at 25,000 ft (1-1); otherwise the Hurri decimated the Spit. In addition the 109E had such a heavy wing weight that it had difficulties fighting against the P-40C
jhoag56 2 years ago
the hurricane was a far better gun platform and also better at taking hits especially between the pilot and tail 20mm shells would pass straight through without going off plus it was easier to repair depending on the damage of course
5515terminator 2 years ago
Thats not a fact. The Hurricane along with the Spitfire both had superior handling, greater manoeuvrability (mostly), lower wing loading, and lighter control forces at high speeds. The Hurricane, though inferior to the Spit was capable against 109s.
AdrianDotis 2 years ago
Mossie Mossie Mossie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!
sketchmeister 1 year ago
d bader is my hero
leebodger 2 years ago
me to mate a great man
oldstuffandcollect 2 years ago
Hawker Hurricane: RAF workhorse
yakovlev3a 2 years ago 2
My mother built the Hurricanes during the war in England.
Howard492 2 years ago 10
Cheers to your mum! My mom helped build Bell P-39 Airacobras during the war.
propfan2k 2 years ago
@Howard492 Bless her then. She truely helped in the fight for freedom
Subzero9922 1 year ago
the huricane might have been older and less advanced but it was tough as hell and thanks to being made of canvas it could just let rounds pass through and keep going
MrDeadmoss 2 years ago
Also it was a more stable gun platform.
Jaliya48 2 years ago
Werent the body was all canvas?
1998disco72 2 years ago
Only the aft section, from behind the cockpit back and the control surfaces. (Ailerons, rudder & elevators)
propfan2k 2 years ago
Good to see this old veteran still flying;-)
linebackertwo 2 years ago 2
The airplane that won us the battle of Britain.
I'm not knocking the Spitfire but the Hurricane downed more planes
ToonandBBfan 2 years ago 12
More of them too cant remember the figures but was something along the lines of for every spitfire there were 5 hurricanes
calumknight1984 2 years ago
Figures vary, but according to reliable sources, RAF Fighter Command's order of battle numbered 27 Hurricane and 19 Spitfire squadrons plus six Blenheim F and two Defiant squadrons.
According to the official RAF website, "A total of 1,715 Hurricanes flew with Fighter Command during the period of the Battle, far in excess of all other British fighters combined." (Spitifres, Gladiators, Defiants and Blenheim IF's)
Hurricanes claimed 55 percent of Fighter Command's victories.
propfan2k 2 years ago
well, because they took care of the bombers which was easier targets and because they were in larger numbers than the spits. the spitfire was far superior. ask any german pilot!
gregersgram 2 years ago
Which plane did Douglas Bader fly?
ToonandBBfan 2 years ago
spitfire
gregersgram 2 years ago
Cheers
ToonandBBfan 2 years ago
Flew both, actually
propfan2k 2 years ago
Bader flew a Spitfire, I think.
DRAC250 2 years ago
February 1940, Bader joined No. 19 Squadron flying Spitfires
April 1940, appointed flight commander 222 Squadron, reequipping from Blenheim bombers to Spitfires.
June 1940, Bader was given command 242 Squadron flying Hurricanes during Battle of Britain
When the Battle of Britain ended, Bader, left 242 Squadron took over the "Tangmere Wing." Consisting of three Spitfire Squadrons - 145, 610 and 616. Until August 9, 1941, he collided with a Bf-109 over France, baled out and captured.
propfan2k 2 years ago
There's been a lot of conjecture about Bader's 'collision' with the Bf109, certainly the operational losses for the unit his squadron encountered that day didn't account for a collision & a recent historical study of his crash suggests that he was the victim of a blue on blue mistake. Bader may have made up the collision story as he didn't want it known that anyone had been able to get a bead on him! Unfortunately, they couldn't locate the wreckage of his aircraft to prove or disprove the facts.
pete2778 1 year ago
he flew both when he landed a spitfire he pranged the kite but he got a hurricane after when got a transfer
oldstuffandcollect 2 years ago
@ToonandBBfan
mate, if it wasnt for the Hurricane, the whole world would have entered the "new dark age". It's way overdue that this aircraft was given the credit it deserves. Sorry spit fans, but the Hurricane would've won the BOB by itself without spits regardless.
TheFunnydoll 1 year ago
@TheFunnydoll
Actually modern British war historians have concluded that even if RAF lost the battle Operation Sealion would most likely have failed anyway. You see the Germans didn't have enough landing ships to make an effective invasion and the Royal Navy was far from beaten, and were patrolling the coast where a likely German invasion would happen. Even if the navy would take a beating from the german airforce they still would take many with them and sink lots of landing ships.
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
@TheFunnydoll
In those days Germany mostly had Panzer I's,II's and III's all of which could be knocked out by the 2-pounder anti-tank gun. Not to mention the landing zones were mined and clearing all that would have taken time the Germans didn't have. If the Germans were bogged down in whatever small foothold they had, they would eventually loose and they knew this all too well themselves.
Hitler actually hoped Britain would "chicken out" and make peace with Germany, leaving his back free...
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
@ToonandBBfan sorry it doesn't have more kills than the spitfire, it did during the battle of britain but not by the end of the war
pramboy09 1 year ago
@ToonandBBfan
True, but the Hurricane was used to attack bombers and downing as many of them as possible. Indeed a Hurricane could easily down any slow Stuka or Heinkel bomber, but they let the Spitfires go after the Messerschmitt fighters.
The Hurricane could take a lot of beating though, and if anything broke or was shot to pieces, replacing it was fairly simple.
Later version of the Hurricane equipped with 40mm cannons were called can openers for what they did to German tanks in Africa.
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
@McLarenMercedes
The 40mm Tank busting Hurricane is probably what gave the Americans the idea for the A-10
Thanks
ToonandBBfan 7 months ago
@ToonandBBfan there were a few planes out of WW2 which had big caliber cannons on them...don't forget about the later Stukas, the Me 410, and B-25 for example
Brian79camino 5 months ago
@ToonandBBfan They both did it together without them both we wouldn't of won the hurricanes whent for the bombers and the spitfires whent for the fighters Thats how it was!
CrIp1391 6 months ago
@ToonandBBfan No. The Hurricane shot down the most German bombers, but it was the Spitfire that did the most dog fighting and shot down more German fighter planes.
dmax631 5 months ago
Let me just say that I'm glad to be watching the Hurricane in action on YouTube as opposed to, say, from the cockpit of a Heinkel He 111!
RoscoeOglethorpe 2 years ago
Personally, I think it even looks cooler than the Spitfire.
The Mustang was a great plane with the Allison engine at low altitudes. Like the P-40 before it, it was originally designed for low level work as a ground support aircraft. It was ONLY at higher altitudes that the Allison engine lost performance and this is where the fighter was placed to escort American bombers in DAYLIGHT raids over Germany while the British bombers flew under the cover of DARKNESS at night.
Crimble67 2 years ago
Merlin engine sounds great. That engine was the reason we won the war and it was british. No one could get near it. The p51 was garbage until it was fitted with a Merlin.
steve1mufc 2 years ago
Thanks!
sinatraandaerosmith 2 years ago
These WW2 planes actually SOUND like warplanes. Love that engine growl. It's something that today's jet aircraft lack.
IronBrig4 2 years ago 4
Agreed. but if i was to be thrown into a war as a pilot the last thing i would be worrying about is the sound of the engine XD
chaz1886 2 years ago
Hawker Hurricane, the totally forgotten hero of the Battle of Britain. Had it not been for the Hurricane...Na ja, wer weiss was dann passieren wäre!!!
Crimble67 2 years ago 5
The Hurricane Apparently got more kills and could take a hammering.
steve1mufc 2 years ago
If you play Battle of Britain II -you will understand
why the Hurricane was so important to knocking out bombers. -extremely stable as all the 303s are rattling . Much harder to keep the spit on target!
FYI BoB2 has extremely realistic flight envelope sims!
will4ward 2 years ago
It wasn't as pretty as the Spitfire, but it was a very effective gun platform. If not for the Hurricanes, I believe the Battle of Britain might have gone pear shaped for Britain.
jimlagos 2 years ago
Beautiful plane that was never given the credit it deserved.
Maxwell2323 2 years ago 5
I agree, it was the backbone of the war if you like
rich17279 2 years ago 3
I notice this model has the oil collection ring immediately behind the prop, this model was known for throwing oil back onto the windscreen perhaps from the constant speed propeller unit? I think some spitfires may have also had this problem
timj41 2 years ago
The plane that won the battle of britain, a lovely air craft.
FordPrefect23 2 years ago
was it chasing a BF109E?
BMWM3GTRLOVER 3 years ago
Nice canadian made aircraft by Elsie MacGill.
Jimderkaisser 3 years ago
wtf the hurriane was ,made by ritain was,nt it
well i thought it was
lightningmcqueen85 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The Hawker Hurricane was built in canada.
This baby was designed by Elsie MacGill (Canadian), she was called "The queen of Hurricane".Elsie was the first female engineer in the world, and she create one of the most powerful aircraft in world war two. The Hawker was create by a canadian train industry called : Canadian Car and Foundry, later purchase by Avro Canada.
Isn't a british made, but canadian made don't search shitty information on Wikipedia
Jimderkaisser 3 years ago
Hawker Aircraft was a British company, not Canadian, in which was the primary founder and designer of the Hawker Hurricane. Canada did, however, manufacture Its own line of Hurricanes, and as of that it also produced its own range of Lancaster Bombers too.
mrrmancunian 2 years ago
Canadian built Hurricane plus RCAF aircrew - winning combination.
mig25pd 3 years ago
True
Jimderkaisser 3 years ago
you are looking at the most gorgeous and amazing aircraft of world war 2.
The hurricane was the daddy, much more forgiving than the spit, a better gun platform than the spit, easier to repair than the spit and more kills than the spit. It was always overlooked by the spitfire. The hurricane needs the credit it deserves. A true work horse.
Beauty at its finest. Whats not to love.
jfoster21 3 years ago 16
It does deserve its credit for the role it played. But if Hurricane was the king, the Spitfire was the heir. Spitfire is far more elegant, outclassing the hurricane on all fronts.
philipp1157 3 years ago
@jfoster21 you sure are right-Hawker Hurricane credited with 60% of kills in Battle of Britain, the most important air battle in the history of man and war
darkmossie633 1 year ago
@darkmossie633 the reason why the hurricane shot down more aircraft is quite simple, the hurricanes job was to knock the german bombers out while the spitfires flew cover for them. There we far more hurricanes in service than spitfires in 1940 and it was always going to harder to down 109's if the hurricanes are shooting down the dornier and heinkels! Not taking anything away from the hurricane it was a great, but after 1941 as a pure fighter it was obsolete.
pramboy09 1 year ago
@jfoster21 it's been given plenty of credit by those who know, but i'm sorry it doesn't have more kills than the spitfire, it did during the battle of britain.
pramboy09 1 year ago
it was ment for the spit fire to draw the attention of the me 109s, because the the spitfire is faster and more manuverable than the huricane. once the fighter escort was away and distrcted by the spitfires, the huricanes would then concentrate on attacking the bombers. The huricane had a higher kill rate beacuse there were a few me 109s to guard many bombers
halffliffe 3 years ago
all those engines sound real......
sturdle 3 years ago
the hurricane was totally elemental on the battle of brittain, this plane has destroy more planes that the spitfire
kjsh987 3 years ago 5
Yes it downed 5/7'ths of all german planes in the battle of Britain in 1940.
McLarenMercedes 3 years ago
Hurricanes kicked some serious ass don't doubt it....this one is hitting half throttle at best, i recall the sound of Merlin engines being caned at airshows past (before health and safety) you never heard such a fantastic noise in your dreams
gushunnybun 3 years ago
the sound of the merlin engines in hurricanes and spitfires are brilliant.
chrisUKCAFC 3 years ago
The Hurricanes stuck mainly to bombers but did take down some fighters.The fuselage was fabric covered and could take enormous damage!
irishoforiel 3 years ago
Hurricane shot down more fighters and bombers in the battle of Britian than the Spitfire. The Hurricane Fuselage was of a unique mixed construction which enabled it to absorb great damage.The fabric covering/mixed metal-wood construction) meant that explosive or armor peircing rounds would pass through the A/C, unlike the Spit (metal skin) which would not. The down side is that the Hurricane took a LOT longer to build!!!
usmctanks1 3 years ago
No, actually. My understanding was, that a Hurricane took 10,000 man-hours to build, but the Spitfire took 15,000 man-hours to construct.
TallboyDave 3 years ago
Well when you look at Hurricane re-builders, they take up to 3 times as long to do than a Spit, now it may be that there are more spit restores, but they state the initial construction of Sydney camms masterpeice is difficult to produce, as it was during the war. The probable cause is that most factory workers were familiar with a mixed construction ( Nimrod,Guantlet,gladiator etc.) yet not familar with complex curves (spits) so you and I are both correct, just how you look at "builiding" them!
usmctanks1 3 years ago
The Spitfires problem was that they took so long to construct. Hurricanes made up the bulk of the RAF because they were cheap and easy to build. In my opinion, it is a better creation than the Spit and doesn't get the credit that it deserves. Unfortuanately, it wasn't good enough to overshadow the Spit but precisely because of that, it does win my heart.
itfcmatt 3 years ago
the hurricane was obsolete as a fighter by 1942, hence why hawker moved on to the typhooon and tempest.
pramboy74 2 years ago
Spitfire was too pretty- you dont want to be flashing your pretty aircraft at the enemy...
You want a mean lookin beast like this to go and kick their teeth in :D
takedownroddy 3 years ago
the plane has great history, but it sure is an ugly bat.
mustangwkc 3 years ago
Finns bought 12 used mk1..no spareparts almost.they shot down only 5-6 russians
with them..but B-239 brewster..was a killer,
finns shot down almost 500..with B-239..
Kippis
Flyfinn38 3 years ago
yes but england supplied Hawker Hurricane planes to Soviet Russia, after the german attack on said country.
ralach 4 years ago
Finnish fighter pilots estimated that Hawker Hurricane was easiest russian aircraft to shut down in 1942-43. In one stage even half of russian fighters been shut down were these overrated Hurricanes.
timo1595 4 years ago
Finland operated about 10 to 12 Hawker Hurricanes purchased from the U.K. from 1941 - 1945
propfan2k 4 years ago
Interesting pov, timo. But a quote from Karhunen, Captain and commander of the 3rd flight of LeLv 24, recalled: "The Brewster model 239 was good against the older Russian fighters, Polikarpov I-153 Chaika (Gull) and I-16. Hence the period 1941-42 was the best time for us. In 1943 it was already significantly more difficult when the Russians began to use their newer fighters against us... Later, with the Yaks, Hurricanes, Tomahawks, LaGG-3 and MiGs, it became a fight to the death."
Flosailor 2 years ago
Real nice vid. Thanks...I totaly agree with Albert Sjoberg..The Hurricane is my favorite of the ww2 fighters. Sure the Spitfire has pretty lines but the Hurricane is so beautiful..I flew a linecontroled model of it as a chlid in the late 70´s. I also like the sound of the Merlin engine..=)
Cnltaf 4 years ago
the rr merlin engine does have a pretty sound but nothing beats a prat and Whitney wasp radial.
Mindys54 3 years ago
At about 1:50 I could hear a DC3/C47 flying by, beauuuuutiful!
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faireyswordfishmk1 4 years ago
Hurricane was the only fighter to see action on every front during WW2, from Eastern Europe, to mediterannean, to Burma, to China...unsure of the Aleutian Islands,thou if these not be be made less important, didn't receive the propaganda the other theatres happened to so receive
gotcha109 4 years ago
was looking for some documentation on the hurricane model from revell i'm building. great vid! thank you!
lenx82 4 years ago
Thanks for the posting this. Great video.
fishroscoe 4 years ago
Thank you for this clip
The Hurricane is my favorite of the BoB fighters. Sure the Spitfire has pretty lines but this plane looked like it would give Jerry what for:)
AlbertSjoberg 4 years ago
Nice, love them ww2 fighters.
tylerdurden246 4 years ago
Merlin rules !
mxkameraman 4 years ago
the real hero of the of the summer of 1940
jetstreamone 4 years ago
you are looking at the most gorgeous, graceful, magnificent and greatest aircraft of WW2 their gents.. a true beauty!! thanks for posting a great vid of a great plane.
jfoster21 4 years ago
The books "The Hardest Day" by Alfred Price and "Duel of Eagles" by Peter Townsend disagree with you.
ansonchappell 4 years ago
The plane that saved Britain. Were it not for the privately funded Hurri, England would have entered the Battle of Britain with Hinds and Bulldogs and the like, and been slaughtered.
ansonchappell 4 years ago
Sorry but thats total bollocks.
simmo9046 4 years ago
This year's airshow is scheduled for July 13 to 15. If you'll be in Western NY it's definitely worth checking out!
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propfan2k 4 years ago
just listen to it beautiful
packhowitzer 4 years ago
LOVE Hurri's GREAT Video!!
greenhornet59 5 years ago
i love the hurricane , the sound ,the look everything about it much better than the spitfire
samuelbengermin 5 years ago
but spitfire is the most popular plane in the world >=]
Dragon22873 4 years ago
You'd probably get arguments from Mustang and Flying Fortress fans.
propfan2k 4 years ago
well, most popular to the british! >=]
Dragon22873 4 years ago
Point well taken. Carry on, chaps! (BTW, the Spit is my personal fave.)
propfan2k 4 years ago
Warhawk fans too
LaOnicap1972 4 years ago
I am afraid a classic-looking jetliner (like boeing or airbus) is more recognized as a symbol. Do not forget cessna, also more recognized but not always correctly named.
krbosak 4 years ago
i mean ww2 lolz
Dragon22873 4 years ago
i saw this
stc1234 5 years ago
Thanks for the vid, I'm a big fan of the Hurri.
AchtAcht 5 years ago