sifu wan despite his long years training as far as i am aware has only been teaching openly for about ten years. so to imply he is only in it for the money..... check the facts
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Comparing Wan sifu to Leung ting is like comparing a flying Dragon to a stool worm, or Sir Lancelot to a merchant.
You obviously, don't know what you're talking about. He's not merely "one of the best WC instructors in Hong Kong" but rather in all the world you'd be lucky to find even one who could compare with him.
It's nice you appreciate his kung fu, but as the Chinese say, "you have eyes but cannot recognize Mt. Everest/Tai when it looms over you".
you are right, comparing Wan Sifu to Leung Ting is something like an insult to Wan Kam Leung. As for the best instrictor,there are several other good WSL lineage instructors, even in Hong Kong. As for the rest of the world, obviously Barry Lee comes to my mind :)
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Sifu Wan is one the best wing chun instructor in Hong Kong, he is for real, he also teach in the special force in Hong Kong police. I think he knows wing chun better than Leung Tin.
what a charlatan. Let me chop that guy across the neck and he won't be smiling. I am tired of these phonies with students who just love to feed their egos. I love when he simultaneously defeats 3 charging attackers. Looks like it is right out of a really bad '80's movie.
There's an old saying. " It's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt ". Before you call someone a charlatan you should research who you're insulting, or better yet, go to Hong Kong and find out for yourself !
There's another old saying, "There's a sucker born every minute". What I love is how Wing Chunners love to note that it was the original art of Bruce Lee. And yet, after all his research, he drops the centerline stance and goes to a Western boxing/fencing guard. Hmmm...wonder why? And this is a guy who studied under Ip Man himself? Lee learned, "Take what works" and leave the rest. He left most of WC.
words so true.. i have been to hong kong and seen this master in action, only years of training and dedication will truly part those who are not worthy.. cause years of training doesnt matter if you train poorly.. but this guy has trained dedicated, disciplined and heart fully for man years. and you can see that on his techniques. goood comment gragrn.
Actually, my foul-mouthed friend, if you read Sifu Wan's account of the incident (on page 4 of the 'Blitz' article on his website), he says that he blocked and grabbed one of the guys, then they all ran away.
I think Sifu Wan would be appalled that such blatantly untrue "modern myths" are being spread about him.
Sifu Wan is a full time professional martial arts instructor. That's how he earns his living. To say he is only in it for the money is an insult to the fifty years of dedicated training he put in to get that good. You would begrudge him being paid for the life time of knowledge he is willing to impart? I suppose you go to work every day for free!
I've tried to reply twice now and my comment won't load up. I don't know where you get your information alec12 but it is a pack of LIES. Before you slander someone on the internet you should at least check your facts. Sifu Wan's fees have not changed and they are very reasonable. You don't even have the brains or the decency to mention you are talking about Hong Kong dollars, not USD or AUD!
I'm sorry but ving tsun is a Leung Ting's invention and doesn't follow the real wing chun's principles. It's true that you can call wing chun as you want but in Europe and USA if you say "ving tsun" you're talking about Leung Ting :(
omg....leung ting calls his "wing tsun". Wong Shun Leung calls his "Ving Tsun". Don't mix up. What is the meaning of doesn't follow real wing chun's principles??are u saying Leung Ting doesnt follw centreline??Pls study before making comments like this
nope. WSL wrote it "wing chun" but it doesn't matter how its written... Leung Ting's wt is a ridiculous thing. There isn't rotation, there isn't chi sao and the center line is an option...watch yip man's wc and then you'll understand.
actually ving tsun is not a leung ting invention.. i have been to china.. and studied wing chun in china and u have different instructors who spell it differently its about the school or the teacher. but ving tsun.. wing chun, and wing tsun are all the same martial art but with different spelling... and what is martial arts its a set of beliefs and principles that eat artist practices its not about style its about doing whats good for u
I know it's not a leung ting's invention (but today a lot of people tell apart wc and wt), I'm criticizing his school where you learn things that aren't functional for fights. Yip Man and WSL were very clear about this: in wc you can use what you want but it must be effective and scientific. You can do 100 fly-kicks and say that's wc but if you try it against a real fighter....
It's ok, that guy is good, but when he was defending against 3 attackers he stayed between them all which is the worst thing that you could possibly do. He should have gone to either side but not in the middle because he now has to fight 3 attackers at the same time which is physically impossible. If he stepped to the side then he could have used one guy as a shield from the other two. Apart from that, it was a good video
i think you shouldnt take too many things seriously because its also a part showmanship seeing it is done for tv and not so much for a knowledgable martial arts crowd but you are totally right about facing multiplle opponents
This is solid video. Sifu Kam has excellent form and demonstrates many of the basic techniques, especially capturing the centerline and controlling the opponent. Good upper and lower body technique. Notice how each techique has simultaneous offense and defense. Wing Chun is all about capturing the centerline and using redirecting the opponents force - never go against force. Let's keep the comments about technique and not about silly stuff like the spelling of WC. Silly people.
Wing chun and ving tsun are both the correct spellings some people believe that one is sport orientated but this is not correct. Some peopl spell how they pronounce and translate and others spell in english how they would pronounce it and thats Wing Chun
instead of arguing whether wing chun or ving tsun is the correct spelling, how about you guys pull your heads out your asses and call it Yong Chun. or Forever Springtime Fist.
street situation. in fact according to the last Ip Man disciple (Alan Lee) its the sparring that you need to make your wing chun work in a live situation. he said he had learnt all the forms and system but still had difficulties with range and timing! Thanks for taking the time to listen to my opinions, and TRAIN HARD! ;-)
Well, even though you still train by using the techniques and forms, they are considered theory. It's only natural to find it hard to apply the theory into action without practicing. Thus, you need to do some sparring. Range, timing and other technical aspects are one thing, but you also get mentally prepared to fight another person. Doing some free style practice from time to time doesn't hurt, either ;)
school - it certainly does not make Ip Man kung fu weak! by the way im certainly not slating hong kong wing chun - my teacher was a student of one of joseph chengs top students. all i am saying by this extremely long post (:-p) is that the whole of WT or VT or the underlying principles of this form of _ing _un are not poor at all. in fact they are very good. HOWEVER if your learning WT outside of Germany or Hong Kong i seriously doubt you could use it to adequetly protect yourself in a live
Leung. Keith kernschpect is awesome as well. sorry to be controversial but its well documented that Ip Man wing chun (in hong kong) is not as complete as other mainland branches, but its also the most widely practised kung fu in the world. being diluted does not make it any worse. its certainly more combatative than many branches i have experienced, all Leung Ting has done is dilute the art again for a commercial gain. Many other ip man lineage sifu's learn part time for a few years and open a
If Sifu Wan reminds you of leung Ting then all I can suggest is you get your eyes checked, your head read, and your knowledge of Wing Chun greatly improved by attending Sifu Wan's seminar in February, or visiting him in Hong Kong. Good luck!
i mean at first sight, i long believed leung ting was the only who knows real wing chun, but now i start doubting because they all claim to be to only real master.
jabberwacky you 20yr old knowitall,for your infomation they are not arm locks,they are arm breaks.Try to Tan sao with a broken arm, or punch for that matter.Sifu Wan is the best there is.His system of Practical Wing Chun is an evolution of the Wing Chun style,based on a lifetime of fighting the best people from all other styles,finding out which techniques worked,and which didn't.I suggest you go to Hong Kong and lock hands with Sifu Wan.
Out of curiosity, when and where...Emin is very good but nowhere in this caliber,the same for his teacher and his teacher's teacher( Leung Ting). Leung Ting is very good but nowhere near WKL's level.
Yea, including the then mediocre Emin who beat him anyway you look at it. (Emin has become excellent since then....can you imagine what would happen now!) But still no match for WKL,Gary Lam, Ken Chung( Sorry Emin and William...truth is truth) You guys ould not stand a chance.
I will say that WC WT VT VX are all different expressions of the same thing. Most of the modern styles you speak of are through yip man and several of those students are the people who run the styles you speak of.
I am glad that anyone can understand that WC is the original and WT things are just shit to be the first and make money for sceminars and all these...It is true that in China only WC exists and the other systems are just the else way...Also there are differences between WC and WT's like system way moving hits and defenses...I mean for excample WC goes to hidden site at WT u go only straight....Nvm u must realise that WT is just a bad copy shit and dont defense that WC is the same it is not:)
No you are wrong Wing Chun is the original all the other took many moves from wing chun and stance to make WT and all these imitations...Wing Chun is much better and have big differences like the way it moves culture and all these...Ppl that do WT would like to do WC this is why u say we are the same...NO we are not u would like to but soz u cant
....that maybe for....caucasian masters...but in china....like....WC is what everyone there claim their way as and WT is what they call everyone else's way....
i very much agree with u mate wingchun is the original iam a practioner of WC an this Wing tsun shyt is just another stolen art for sum guy to make munny.
sorry, i disagree. in chinese they are all the same symbols. its is the same art and basic principles just expressed in a different way. WSL wing chun is expressed different to TST wing chun, but its still the same art learnt from Ip Man. the reason WT has such a bad rep worldwide is because the instructors are taught part time for 2-3years and given a school to operate. at the top of WT the practitioners are awesome. Leung Ting learnt from Ip Man students so did the man in this video,Wan Kam
I can not understand why u cant say that none of Wing Tzun Wing Tsun Wing Tsyn and all of these bad copies of Wing Chun are not the same with Wing Chun...If you are not proud by doin Wing Tsyn u should start Wing Chun not saing u already doing it and also saying that this idiot is Wing Chun's Grandmaster...William Cheung is
all these different names are just a name for the WC that isn't taught by the same master, so like your master might call my masters way Ving tsun and claim that his is called wing chun. its only cuz nowadays everyone claims that their own W.C is the true wing chun (which in reality we're all the same)
no wing chun an wing tsun an ving tsun are all very much different ur martial style is just stolen peices to make money for ur sifu he must clearly think hes way is superior wen we all know dat WC is the original an da onli way der shud be
this guy is kinda reek.i mean im not saying he's a bad fighter, but like seriously his siu lim tau in his other vids and his bill jee looks horrendus. and a lot of his moves he showed cna be countered easily like his arm lock, just start punching him in the face or "tahn" when he grabs you. just a suggestion.
aside from doing a lot of research into the history and roots of wing chun, i have also trained with a direct student of wan kam leung, he also told me this. (BTW not trying to start an argument or anything)
finally someone that is not floating there elbows everywhere. nice tight small circle. very combative, good footwork. He invades the center very smoothly. I respect his kung fu and would love to touch this kung fu mans hands. who is his teacher?
hello its me again so me and my partner hajukan try to bring master Wan Kam Leung to germany because its important to see waht is really practical.This style is like a update with the roots from the beginning.Straight hongkong underground style and we are glad to know him and learn Practical Wing Chun Kung Fu.God bless the Marterial Art
perhaps he's talking about the double "drag" or "tok"? sometimes called a fok, or on. anyway tok in cantonese means drag, to drag down. right before the double eye thrust. maybe thats what he's talking about. as for duff, actually wing chun has tons of foot work and fast, at least wan's does, other wing chun styles i seen dont have much foot work. there is a wing chun maxim in cantonese "ya bo biu mai da dai nei" "1 darting step in and knock you down!".
Hi Bhibatsu and Spiralnikk. Actually there is a tok-sau in the Siu lim Tau form. But Si-Fu is filming a DVD now that will be released very soon. I think he will explain it further there. Are you all his students?
great demos would like to see a bit more footwork i think thats where wing chun in a way can suffer because of people coming into contact and out of contact so fast it ends up being a kickboxin but it is 4 da street
i thought i'd come back and mention. knowing a move is entirely a different thing from knowing what makes the move work. no doubt you noticed wan's incredible power. but did he teach you how to cultivate that power and generate it into the moves? i am sure he didnt as he has never taught anyone that. only 2 have learned it. he's an old guy now, his power used to be much greater. Time is the ultimate conqueror.
hey me and my partner open the first wan kam leung practical wing chun school in germany augsburg my partner is on the russian tape too so for everybody who dont know or can not believe visit us
As Alex once said "those who practice Kung Fu are as numerous as the hairs on a bull's body. But those who really have Kung Fu, are as rare as the 2 horns on the bull's head". It is so. And of all those I have met, none are willing to pay the price.
i dont understand any of that russian stuff, but i can say, there are only 2 men on earth who can say they have learned all of wan's kung fu and then some. one is my senior Alex, and the other is myself, Mike. I miss the old mean bastard. But for the rest of you, neither money nor sweat will learn what he knows. Applied determination, sacrifice, and deserving karma, and nothing else will get you a master who is legendary.
i know all of the movements in the 3 forms and wooden dummy, but of the primary, tan bong kwan fook gan fun pai lap pak dwek bong sau hei gio, gam, i dont know any tok you speak of. perhaps you are mispronouncing it. wan used to teach in prince edward when i joined, then in jordan where he shared rent with ma yeh, then he opened his own in yau ma tei. ask him who mike is. ;)
Wan does what I call the double tok immediatly after pak sau in the sui lim tau on the vid posted by moyinggerk.Its also in his dummy form a lot,hands on elbows and thrust.
i think you're talking about the double "biu" which means thrust or "dart". ..... applications are rather limitless. what is limited is your power, determination, and purpose. there's no "tok" move in cantonese.
wen he moved to hong kong he taught wing chun differently from wen he did in futsan. they are subtle differences but u cn see it mainly in tha stance. one stance (either from hk or futsan i cnt remember) is higher than the other and the feet are not placed facing inwards. also many of the tecniques in the forms are done alot higher up near the face. but this guy is realli gwd.. u cn tell he knoswot his doing lol
stance looks taken from other styles but i dont think it is. wan kam leung is a student of wong shun leung which was taught by yip man. yip man taught wc in futsan and in hong kong....
I feel that we should ask ourselves why the footwork reference must be from hung gar? The pole, knife, wooden man and all manner of equipment is used to enhance everything, especially the steps. This clip shows good understanding of the pole, of which WSL was known for, wasn't he? One of a few greats...
HAHAH when 3 ppl are attacking they Never COME LIKE THAT FIRST OFF..unless they are idiots.and the whole neck thing where he moves the opponent has nothing to do with strength it is balance, and the person holding him is putting 0 force, as wan kam would be in some pain if he were in that position.
I've trained WC for 4 years now, two under the WSL system. This video is authentic. He has very good structure, and his moves flow. jonjon2034, using force against a WC isn't a good idea. They can feel it and take advantage of the oncoming energy. You know the feeling when you let go the rope in the game tug of war, well... that's wing chun, every step of the way.
i understand where ur coming from, but taking advantage of someones force is only possible when the person applying that force is not structured ( people who do not know how to fight ) as fascinating as WC looks its a stationary art in hand to hand. so in self defense it is only effective on those who have little to no skill, as for the stick and knife fighting i will say it is quite an effective art.
I have had the ggreat good fortune to have trained with Wan five time over the last five years and have seen those so called "dodgy chops"motofox and unless you go to Hong Kong and hit Wan in the neck shutup
What's up with those "mai mo lo" tricks? Chopping his throat is no use but I want to poke his eyes and see if he can still laugh? This site is full of "seminar" students! Oh I train with so and so for how many days and I want to two seminars and I'm really good! So and so is the best so I can feel good about myself. What a joke.
It's vry unlikley to get a real live scenario of a combat involving wing chun,so the only way those with similiar interests in this art can see the quality or lack of pertaining to the many so called masters is to place video footage so all who may get suckered in by the real jokers can see the sellers market.
As far as the dodgy chops, I agree but thats what some student need to see.
Yeah, this mai mo lo is supposed to be one of the four senior students of WSL. They claimed one of their missions is to "To maintain and upkeep WSL's WC heritage." But look at the other clip where he butchered the Biu Jee form, adding Hung Gar like moves and a bunch of crap contradicting WC principles. So much for maintain and upkeep the WSL heritage! He is more interested in promoting himself. What would WSL feel had he seen that?
wan kam what a legend. I trained with him for 4 days in HK, but hes coming to the UK in march so can hopefully get him to come to Rick Young's where I train now.
Are they broadcasting news from a spaceship...?
YearningForHonesty 1 month ago
Hardcore training.
tallset2 4 months ago
This guy knows wing chun
BKKaye 5 months ago
sifu wan despite his long years training as far as i am aware has only been teaching openly for about ten years. so to imply he is only in it for the money..... check the facts
wingchunify 2 years ago 3
Some people are good at building bookshelves. They are bookshelf builders because conditions made them that way. Others will trade for those bookshelves. Since one can not eat a shelf, the trade provides food. There are unscrupulous folks who capitalize and exploit bookshelf sales, but that doesn't mean getting food and somewhere to sleep due to your skill is unscrupulous. :)
sloppymantis 1 year ago
@wingchunify £8,000 for the privelidge of learning the the Qi Gong, mind..
Porce1ain 1 year ago
@Porce1ain this is true but considering he is what 65? check my previous post.......
hmm wonder who you might be
wingchunify 1 year ago
@wingchunify Absolutely. I'm a devoted student of Sifu WKL, ex-NWTO.
Porce1ain 1 year ago
i think we just talk less and learn more!
jay5354369 2 years ago 3
@bobowai,
Comparing Wan sifu to Leung ting is like comparing a flying Dragon to a stool worm, or Sir Lancelot to a merchant.
You obviously, don't know what you're talking about. He's not merely "one of the best WC instructors in Hong Kong" but rather in all the world you'd be lucky to find even one who could compare with him.
It's nice you appreciate his kung fu, but as the Chinese say, "you have eyes but cannot recognize Mt. Everest/Tai when it looms over you".
bhibatsu 2 years ago 3
you are right, comparing Wan Sifu to Leung Ting is something like an insult to Wan Kam Leung. As for the best instrictor,there are several other good WSL lineage instructors, even in Hong Kong. As for the rest of the world, obviously Barry Lee comes to my mind :)
Cheers
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universetechnique 2 years ago
Sifu Wan is one the best wing chun instructor in Hong Kong, he is for real, he also teach in the special force in Hong Kong police. I think he knows wing chun better than Leung Tin.
bobowai 2 years ago 6
fellow sihings we need not disbute the past of sifu wan. if you are a true student dont bother... be like water still and calm!
jay5354369 2 years ago
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joeElewisoverdrive 2 years ago
This guy is super hardcore I would not want to fu*k with him because I assure you it would be over very quickly.
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what a charlatan. Let me chop that guy across the neck and he won't be smiling. I am tired of these phonies with students who just love to feed their egos. I love when he simultaneously defeats 3 charging attackers. Looks like it is right out of a really bad '80's movie.
norsegod67 2 years ago
part of it is for show seeing its for television but wan kam leung is actually one of the finer exponents of wing chun check out his vids
erolallemekinders2 2 years ago 4
There's an old saying. " It's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt ". Before you call someone a charlatan you should research who you're insulting, or better yet, go to Hong Kong and find out for yourself !
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There's another old saying, "There's a sucker born every minute". What I love is how Wing Chunners love to note that it was the original art of Bruce Lee. And yet, after all his research, he drops the centerline stance and goes to a Western boxing/fencing guard. Hmmm...wonder why? And this is a guy who studied under Ip Man himself? Lee learned, "Take what works" and leave the rest. He left most of WC.
norsegod67 2 years ago
bruce lee only learnt up to siu lim tao
ssj7gokurpg 2 years ago
Thats actually true bro
Wan is called the "real Bruce lee"
alec12 2 years ago 2
words so true.. i have been to hong kong and seen this master in action, only years of training and dedication will truly part those who are not worthy.. cause years of training doesnt matter if you train poorly.. but this guy has trained dedicated, disciplined and heart fully for man years. and you can see that on his techniques. goood comment gragrn.
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alec12 2 years ago 2
Actually, my foul-mouthed friend, if you read Sifu Wan's account of the incident (on page 4 of the 'Blitz' article on his website), he says that he blocked and grabbed one of the guys, then they all ran away.
I think Sifu Wan would be appalled that such blatantly untrue "modern myths" are being spread about him.
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alec12 2 years ago
Fair enough. Each to their own.
I don't know Sifu Wan and can't claim to know what he thinks or does.
You could be right for all I know.
Peace.
patgol2 2 years ago
Sifu Wan is a full time professional martial arts instructor. That's how he earns his living. To say he is only in it for the money is an insult to the fifty years of dedicated training he put in to get that good. You would begrudge him being paid for the life time of knowledge he is willing to impart? I suppose you go to work every day for free!
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alec12 2 years ago
I've tried to reply twice now and my comment won't load up. I don't know where you get your information alec12 but it is a pack of LIES. Before you slander someone on the internet you should at least check your facts. Sifu Wan's fees have not changed and they are very reasonable. You don't even have the brains or the decency to mention you are talking about Hong Kong dollars, not USD or AUD!
gragrn 2 years ago
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no, but he IS sifu fry cook at his job
drbrontosaurus 2 years ago
Disrespectful little boys should shut their disrespectful little mouths.
gragrn 2 years ago 2
excelente!!!
jfurkdies 3 years ago
first class
arpadisle 3 years ago
Wan kam Leung is one of the best hands in Wing Chun, I've big respect for him and I appreciate a lot his way of expressing the system.
salvatoreJKD 3 years ago 2
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Complete bullshit; grow fucking up.
Blndrfist 3 years ago
this is one of the best Ving Tsun demonstrations i have seen. stable horse, simultaneous offense and defense, relaxed technique. very impressive.
superhumansight 3 years ago 7
Wing Chun! Not Ving Tsun!
sousukesagaraJKD 3 years ago
wing chun and ving tsun is the same thing. some translations of winh chun is ving tsun
actionmanrandell 3 years ago
I'm sorry but ving tsun is a Leung Ting's invention and doesn't follow the real wing chun's principles. It's true that you can call wing chun as you want but in Europe and USA if you say "ving tsun" you're talking about Leung Ting :(
sousukesagaraJKD 3 years ago
omg....leung ting calls his "wing tsun". Wong Shun Leung calls his "Ving Tsun". Don't mix up. What is the meaning of doesn't follow real wing chun's principles??are u saying Leung Ting doesnt follw centreline??Pls study before making comments like this
bwong924 3 years ago
nope. WSL wrote it "wing chun" but it doesn't matter how its written... Leung Ting's wt is a ridiculous thing. There isn't rotation, there isn't chi sao and the center line is an option...watch yip man's wc and then you'll understand.
sousukesagaraJKD 3 years ago
actually ving tsun is not a leung ting invention.. i have been to china.. and studied wing chun in china and u have different instructors who spell it differently its about the school or the teacher. but ving tsun.. wing chun, and wing tsun are all the same martial art but with different spelling... and what is martial arts its a set of beliefs and principles that eat artist practices its not about style its about doing whats good for u
actionmanrandell 3 years ago
I know it's not a leung ting's invention (but today a lot of people tell apart wc and wt), I'm criticizing his school where you learn things that aren't functional for fights. Yip Man and WSL were very clear about this: in wc you can use what you want but it must be effective and scientific. You can do 100 fly-kicks and say that's wc but if you try it against a real fighter....
sousukesagaraJKD 3 years ago 2
actually, Leung Ting trademarked Wing Tsun so people won't "copy" him.
He claims to be the last closed door disciple of Ip Man, and my sifu has often talked about his boasting.
killertoad 3 years ago
Considering its done by the Sifu, I would hope so. :P
EvilJOEFX 3 years ago
It's ok, that guy is good, but when he was defending against 3 attackers he stayed between them all which is the worst thing that you could possibly do. He should have gone to either side but not in the middle because he now has to fight 3 attackers at the same time which is physically impossible. If he stepped to the side then he could have used one guy as a shield from the other two. Apart from that, it was a good video
hotmale4u91 3 years ago 2
i think you shouldnt take too many things seriously because its also a part showmanship seeing it is done for tv and not so much for a knowledgable martial arts crowd but you are totally right about facing multiplle opponents
erolallemekinders2 3 years ago 3
@hotmale4u91 True, but there might be times when you can't get out of the way or when trying to do so puts you in an awkward position.
moominpic 1 year ago
forever spring!! down with the munchurian!!
bwang 3 years ago
This is solid video. Sifu Kam has excellent form and demonstrates many of the basic techniques, especially capturing the centerline and controlling the opponent. Good upper and lower body technique. Notice how each techique has simultaneous offense and defense. Wing Chun is all about capturing the centerline and using redirecting the opponents force - never go against force. Let's keep the comments about technique and not about silly stuff like the spelling of WC. Silly people.
chisauboy 3 years ago 23
@chisauboy
I agree. I hate it when I watch WC or WT videos and always have to read those comments about spelling the word. It is the SAME!!
IncreasedHonor 11 months ago
Wing chun and ving tsun are both the correct spellings some people believe that one is sport orientated but this is not correct. Some peopl spell how they pronounce and translate and others spell in english how they would pronounce it and thats Wing Chun
666zakk666 3 years ago 3
instead of arguing whether wing chun or ving tsun is the correct spelling, how about you guys pull your heads out your asses and call it Yong Chun. or Forever Springtime Fist.
smokefan1420 3 years ago
street situation. in fact according to the last Ip Man disciple (Alan Lee) its the sparring that you need to make your wing chun work in a live situation. he said he had learnt all the forms and system but still had difficulties with range and timing! Thanks for taking the time to listen to my opinions, and TRAIN HARD! ;-)
NorthernDaveTN2 4 years ago
well is this your opinions or is it fact as you stated?
smokefan1420 3 years ago
Well, even though you still train by using the techniques and forms, they are considered theory. It's only natural to find it hard to apply the theory into action without practicing. Thus, you need to do some sparring. Range, timing and other technical aspects are one thing, but you also get mentally prepared to fight another person. Doing some free style practice from time to time doesn't hurt, either ;)
Kantzarakos 3 years ago 7
well put
smokefan1420 3 years ago 3
school - it certainly does not make Ip Man kung fu weak! by the way im certainly not slating hong kong wing chun - my teacher was a student of one of joseph chengs top students. all i am saying by this extremely long post (:-p) is that the whole of WT or VT or the underlying principles of this form of _ing _un are not poor at all. in fact they are very good. HOWEVER if your learning WT outside of Germany or Hong Kong i seriously doubt you could use it to adequetly protect yourself in a live
NorthernDaveTN2 4 years ago
Leung. Keith kernschpect is awesome as well. sorry to be controversial but its well documented that Ip Man wing chun (in hong kong) is not as complete as other mainland branches, but its also the most widely practised kung fu in the world. being diluted does not make it any worse. its certainly more combatative than many branches i have experienced, all Leung Ting has done is dilute the art again for a commercial gain. Many other ip man lineage sifu's learn part time for a few years and open a
NorthernDaveTN2 4 years ago
His balance, root and core strength are awesome! He looks like a living legend. Learn from this guys whenever you can!!!
TotemSaint 4 years ago
Hey this is the sifu of my sifu this guy is awesome I heard. And my sify is tough so imagine.
kadirturkerwingtsun 4 years ago
Wan-King is very good
bri4u2906 4 years ago
I noticed "slow was quick" exlnt format. Ian
cocky1269 4 years ago
not bad
bibione87 4 years ago
lol leung ting, this guy is much better
divinajax 4 years ago 2
isn't Wan Kam Leung a korean name?
Outsider, infidel!!!!
LOL
kinokid 4 years ago
it just looks that way cause its cantonese pin yin
jeffinchina 4 years ago
err.. no im pretty sure its not korean
lol
TsangBokyan 4 years ago
温師父好嘢!有型有款!
etbakayaro 4 years ago
If Sifu Wan reminds you of leung Ting then all I can suggest is you get your eyes checked, your head read, and your knowledge of Wing Chun greatly improved by attending Sifu Wan's seminar in February, or visiting him in Hong Kong. Good luck!
gragrn 4 years ago
i mean at first sight, i long believed leung ting was the only who knows real wing chun, but now i start doubting because they all claim to be to only real master.
wingchunpliciple 4 years ago
he reminds me of leung ting
wingchunpliciple 4 years ago
i dont understand why people say wing chun is ugly, its as beautifull as can be
wingchunpliciple 4 years ago
Has Putin had a hairtranspantation
wingchunpliciple 4 years ago
is he a gyropractor
wingchunpliciple 4 years ago
Wing Chun Rulez
wingchunpliciple 4 years ago
jabberwacky you 20yr old knowitall,for your infomation they are not arm locks,they are arm breaks.Try to Tan sao with a broken arm, or punch for that matter.Sifu Wan is the best there is.His system of Practical Wing Chun is an evolution of the Wing Chun style,based on a lifetime of fighting the best people from all other styles,finding out which techniques worked,and which didn't.I suggest you go to Hong Kong and lock hands with Sifu Wan.
gragrn 4 years ago
why did he go there to open a school? is that russia?
"my wife just died last week, hi - 5"
LAHrebirth 4 years ago
thats kazachstan u refferin to.. i seen many shitty impersonations of borat.. but it my pleasure to tell ur joker ass u ahead of the bunch..
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TAKENnameARGH 4 years ago
what? where?
Jabberwacky 4 years ago
avenue of stars? :P
henhaoren 4 years ago
oooooh i thot you meant inside the room
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viersenDvD 4 years ago
Call it what you want, still a nice demonstration of mastery. Seems done without any effort, scary.
Tansao 4 years ago
Grand Master William Cheung is far greater then any of you!
wongdongyuit 4 years ago
he boasted he could beat any other wing chun system. he lost to Emin Boztepe.
memorydisorder 4 years ago
Out of curiosity, when and where...Emin is very good but nowhere in this caliber,the same for his teacher and his teacher's teacher( Leung Ting). Leung Ting is very good but nowhere near WKL's level.
arosajas 2 years ago
do not underestimate mr. wan
henhaoren 4 years ago
Yea, including the then mediocre Emin who beat him anyway you look at it. (Emin has become excellent since then....can you imagine what would happen now!) But still no match for WKL,Gary Lam, Ken Chung( Sorry Emin and William...truth is truth) You guys ould not stand a chance.
arosajas 2 years ago
I am scared to meet the old master at night ....
Benferatu 4 years ago 2
I will say that WC WT VT VX are all different expressions of the same thing. Most of the modern styles you speak of are through yip man and several of those students are the people who run the styles you speak of.
erichchin 4 years ago
looks like some good kung fu!
keithdoeskungfu 4 years ago
u turds read a book: The Grandmasters Text: The History, Philosophy, and Gung Fu of Shaolin Chan.
captainmcspankee 4 years ago
I am glad that anyone can understand that WC is the original and WT things are just shit to be the first and make money for sceminars and all these...It is true that in China only WC exists and the other systems are just the else way...Also there are differences between WC and WT's like system way moving hits and defenses...I mean for excample WC goes to hidden site at WT u go only straight....Nvm u must realise that WT is just a bad copy shit and dont defense that WC is the same it is not:)
Chaoslock19 4 years ago
but waiittt, im learning WC in china...like right now..........and my master just told me exactly what i just told you.
Jabberwacky 4 years ago
No you are wrong Wing Chun is the original all the other took many moves from wing chun and stance to make WT and all these imitations...Wing Chun is much better and have big differences like the way it moves culture and all these...Ppl that do WT would like to do WC this is why u say we are the same...NO we are not u would like to but soz u cant
Chaoslock19 4 years ago
....that maybe for....caucasian masters...but in china....like....WC is what everyone there claim their way as and WT is what they call everyone else's way....
Jabberwacky 4 years ago
i very much agree with u mate wingchun is the original iam a practioner of WC an this Wing tsun shyt is just another stolen art for sum guy to make munny.
wongdongyuit 4 years ago
sorry, i disagree. in chinese they are all the same symbols. its is the same art and basic principles just expressed in a different way. WSL wing chun is expressed different to TST wing chun, but its still the same art learnt from Ip Man. the reason WT has such a bad rep worldwide is because the instructors are taught part time for 2-3years and given a school to operate. at the top of WT the practitioners are awesome. Leung Ting learnt from Ip Man students so did the man in this video,Wan Kam
NorthernDaveTN2 4 years ago
I can not understand why u cant say that none of Wing Tzun Wing Tsun Wing Tsyn and all of these bad copies of Wing Chun are not the same with Wing Chun...If you are not proud by doin Wing Tsyn u should start Wing Chun not saing u already doing it and also saying that this idiot is Wing Chun's Grandmaster...William Cheung is
Chaoslock19 4 years ago
all these different names are just a name for the WC that isn't taught by the same master, so like your master might call my masters way Ving tsun and claim that his is called wing chun. its only cuz nowadays everyone claims that their own W.C is the true wing chun (which in reality we're all the same)
Jabberwacky 4 years ago 2
no wing chun an wing tsun an ving tsun are all very much different ur martial style is just stolen peices to make money for ur sifu he must clearly think hes way is superior wen we all know dat WC is the original an da onli way der shud be
wongdongyuit 4 years ago
but waiittt, im learning WC in china...like right now..........and my master just told me exactly what i just told you.
Jabberwacky 4 years ago
this guy is kinda reek.i mean im not saying he's a bad fighter, but like seriously his siu lim tau in his other vids and his bill jee looks horrendus. and a lot of his moves he showed cna be countered easily like his arm lock, just start punching him in the face or "tahn" when he grabs you. just a suggestion.
Jabberwacky 4 years ago
everyone does their forms differently...doing a form differntly doesnt mean your a bad fighter.
shaolinlongfist 4 years ago
lol which is pretty much what i just said
Jabberwacky 4 years ago
real kung fu is not ment to look gud buh b affective
wongdongyuit 4 years ago
This guy seems like a real wing chun master. A rare thing to see these days. Lots of wannabes around.
Mottahead 4 years ago
I thought Bruce was introduced to Yip man thru Bruce's pops??
this style is awesome for street combat... but in order to stay polished you definately need sparring partners man...
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lubbae9 4 years ago
aside from doing a lot of research into the history and roots of wing chun, i have also trained with a direct student of wan kam leung, he also told me this. (BTW not trying to start an argument or anything)
ailinoro 4 years ago
yes, but bruce lee was introduced to yip man through his son.
ailinoro 4 years ago
ip chun, same teacher as bruce lees first teacher
ailinoro 4 years ago
ip chun is ip man's son. ip man taught Lee, not ip chun.
masterllama321 4 years ago
finally someone that is not floating there elbows everywhere. nice tight small circle. very combative, good footwork. He invades the center very smoothly. I respect his kung fu and would love to touch this kung fu mans hands. who is his teacher?
prfu1222 4 years ago 3
Very True Prfu1222, its nice to se someone not being lazy and actually putting the body mechanics and emmiting into everything..... a very nice demo
0blivius 4 years ago 2
are you kidding me?? HE IS FLOATING ELBOWS EVERYWHERE, and if you haven't noticed, in all his vids his students make no effort.
Jabberwacky 4 years ago
Wan kam's teacher is WONG Shun Leung
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easeton8 4 years ago
myspace hajukan this was the beginning the serious one coming soon.
redschenks 4 years ago
hello its me again so me and my partner hajukan try to bring master Wan Kam Leung to germany because its important to see waht is really practical.This style is like a update with the roots from the beginning.Straight hongkong underground style and we are glad to know him and learn Practical Wing Chun Kung Fu.God bless the Marterial Art
redschenks 4 years ago
perhaps he's talking about the double "drag" or "tok"? sometimes called a fok, or on. anyway tok in cantonese means drag, to drag down. right before the double eye thrust. maybe thats what he's talking about. as for duff, actually wing chun has tons of foot work and fast, at least wan's does, other wing chun styles i seen dont have much foot work. there is a wing chun maxim in cantonese "ya bo biu mai da dai nei" "1 darting step in and knock you down!".
haha.
bhibatsu 4 years ago
Hi Bhibatsu and Spiralnikk. Actually there is a tok-sau in the Siu lim Tau form. But Si-Fu is filming a DVD now that will be released very soon. I think he will explain it further there. Are you all his students?
moyinggerk 4 years ago
great demos would like to see a bit more footwork i think thats where wing chun in a way can suffer because of people coming into contact and out of contact so fast it ends up being a kickboxin but it is 4 da street
duff0996 4 years ago 2
i thought i'd come back and mention. knowing a move is entirely a different thing from knowing what makes the move work. no doubt you noticed wan's incredible power. but did he teach you how to cultivate that power and generate it into the moves? i am sure he didnt as he has never taught anyone that. only 2 have learned it. he's an old guy now, his power used to be much greater. Time is the ultimate conqueror.
bhibatsu 4 years ago
"wing chun is soft like woman not hard like man"Wan Kam leung
spiralnikk 4 years ago 2
Its both: soft AND hard
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Hiddit 4 years ago
oh lets not be queer alright?
QwanYinShen 4 years ago
o its just a joke i like wing chun very much, its the best style there is
WendyHeels 4 years ago
Yeah wing chun and and bagua are my favorite styles of kung fu.
QwanYinShen 4 years ago
crazy its my idol
nickfecteau 4 years ago
hey me and my partner open the first wan kam leung practical wing chun school in germany augsburg my partner is on the russian tape too so for everybody who dont know or can not believe visit us
redschenks 4 years ago
wing chun in germany, that sounds awesome. invite me sometime.
bhibatsu 4 years ago
As Alex once said "those who practice Kung Fu are as numerous as the hairs on a bull's body. But those who really have Kung Fu, are as rare as the 2 horns on the bull's head". It is so. And of all those I have met, none are willing to pay the price.
bhibatsu 4 years ago
i dont understand any of that russian stuff, but i can say, there are only 2 men on earth who can say they have learned all of wan's kung fu and then some. one is my senior Alex, and the other is myself, Mike. I miss the old mean bastard. But for the rest of you, neither money nor sweat will learn what he knows. Applied determination, sacrifice, and deserving karma, and nothing else will get you a master who is legendary.
bhibatsu 4 years ago
well bhibatsu where did wan learn that double tok sau he does in the sui lim tau video?I know,did you learn that too?
spiralnikk 4 years ago
i know all of the movements in the 3 forms and wooden dummy, but of the primary, tan bong kwan fook gan fun pai lap pak dwek bong sau hei gio, gam, i dont know any tok you speak of. perhaps you are mispronouncing it. wan used to teach in prince edward when i joined, then in jordan where he shared rent with ma yeh, then he opened his own in yau ma tei. ask him who mike is. ;)
bhibatsu 4 years ago
Wan does what I call the double tok immediatly after pak sau in the sui lim tau on the vid posted by moyinggerk.Its also in his dummy form a lot,hands on elbows and thrust.
spiralnikk 4 years ago 2
i think you're talking about the double "biu" which means thrust or "dart". ..... applications are rather limitless. what is limited is your power, determination, and purpose. there's no "tok" move in cantonese.
bhibatsu 4 years ago
have trained with Wan a lot it is in the applications he shows that his true genius is apparent
spiralnikk 4 years ago
where is this guy at?
asanzana 4 years ago
wen he moved to hong kong he taught wing chun differently from wen he did in futsan. they are subtle differences but u cn see it mainly in tha stance. one stance (either from hk or futsan i cnt remember) is higher than the other and the feet are not placed facing inwards. also many of the tecniques in the forms are done alot higher up near the face. but this guy is realli gwd.. u cn tell he knoswot his doing lol
chineseboxer9 4 years ago
stance looks taken from other styles but i dont think it is. wan kam leung is a student of wong shun leung which was taught by yip man. yip man taught wc in futsan and in hong kong....
chineseboxer9 4 years ago
thats not true, all the stances are in the forms, pole,knife,jong. and i mean all of them look deeply. oh and so happens that its also in chi gerk
opticannon 4 years ago
hes gt power. in wing chun, thrust power is very important which without it, wing chun is ineffective.
samadakamad 4 years ago
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SWCologne 4 years ago
heck if anything Hung gar was influenced by wing chun
Layz613 4 years ago
How can Wing chun be influenced by Hung gar when Wing chun was created earlier than hung gar?
Layz613 4 years ago
I feel that we should ask ourselves why the footwork reference must be from hung gar? The pole, knife, wooden man and all manner of equipment is used to enhance everything, especially the steps. This clip shows good understanding of the pole, of which WSL was known for, wasn't he? One of a few greats...
WingChunSage 4 years ago
Footwork is a little influenced by other styles i feel.
(I think Mofotox might be right with the Hung Gar Reference)
Still you can tell the man can fight!
tillerbear 4 years ago
Deadly
David2cool4u 4 years ago
HAHAH when 3 ppl are attacking they Never COME LIKE THAT FIRST OFF..unless they are idiots.and the whole neck thing where he moves the opponent has nothing to do with strength it is balance, and the person holding him is putting 0 force, as wan kam would be in some pain if he were in that position.
jonjon2034 5 years ago
I've trained WC for 4 years now, two under the WSL system. This video is authentic. He has very good structure, and his moves flow. jonjon2034, using force against a WC isn't a good idea. They can feel it and take advantage of the oncoming energy. You know the feeling when you let go the rope in the game tug of war, well... that's wing chun, every step of the way.
littlepoop 5 years ago 2
i understand where ur coming from, but taking advantage of someones force is only possible when the person applying that force is not structured ( people who do not know how to fight ) as fascinating as WC looks its a stationary art in hand to hand. so in self defense it is only effective on those who have little to no skill, as for the stick and knife fighting i will say it is quite an effective art.
jonjon2034 5 years ago
have you sparred with a wing chun guy? touched hand or ever attended a lesson???
ur comments says u never have..
what qualifies u to make such a comment?
wing chun practitioners can deal with anyone specially skilled fighters... theres no need no point to beat up unskilled ppol like u.
we only deal with advanced artists with structure, speed, techniques and explosive power.
if u dont have none of those dont bother turning up.
phoenixifist 3 years ago 4
I have had the ggreat good fortune to have trained with Wan five time over the last five years and have seen those so called "dodgy chops"motofox and unless you go to Hong Kong and hit Wan in the neck shutup
spiralnikk 5 years ago
What's up with those "mai mo lo" tricks? Chopping his throat is no use but I want to poke his eyes and see if he can still laugh? This site is full of "seminar" students! Oh I train with so and so for how many days and I want to two seminars and I'm really good! So and so is the best so I can feel good about myself. What a joke.
mofotox 5 years ago
It's vry unlikley to get a real live scenario of a combat involving wing chun,so the only way those with similiar interests in this art can see the quality or lack of pertaining to the many so called masters is to place video footage so all who may get suckered in by the real jokers can see the sellers market.
As far as the dodgy chops, I agree but thats what some student need to see.
endubsar 5 years ago
Yeah, this mai mo lo is supposed to be one of the four senior students of WSL. They claimed one of their missions is to "To maintain and upkeep WSL's WC heritage." But look at the other clip where he butchered the Biu Jee form, adding Hung Gar like moves and a bunch of crap contradicting WC principles. So much for maintain and upkeep the WSL heritage! He is more interested in promoting himself. What would WSL feel had he seen that?
mofotox 5 years ago
Bwoy...sure is reasuring that we all can see class when it comes
endubsar 5 years ago
wan kam what a legend. I trained with him for 4 days in HK, but hes coming to the UK in march so can hopefully get him to come to Rick Young's where I train now.
andygray119 5 years ago
can you send me the details please I would sure like to meet or at least see this guy in the uk.I'm in london sth east
endubsar 5 years ago