We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. Politicians love visible beneficiaries & invisible victims !
There is no such thing as a good tax. Politicians are leaches, mostly !
Three groups spend other people's money: children, thieves, politicians. All three need supervision.
Joe Biden claimed that the $862 Billion failed stimulus ($400 remains unspent) “created or saved” 750,000 jobs. Economists don’t recognize jobs saved, and the jobs saved may have been keep local agencies afloat. When the money ran out, the people lost their jobs. Currently States are considering filing bankruptcy for spending. watch?v=IqmeT5ykKf0
The Govt owns 61% of GM, GOOGLE, “GM's electric-car fantasy running out of gas” and read links. The Green Movement should be free market driven
@FreedomInAmerica Yes, that sounds all nice and good, but we are not exactly in the right economic position to do green free market.
The whole idea is that sometimes free markets works miracles, but other times it fails miserably. We need to regulate the free market so they all play by the same rule and not try to bend the rules by lobbying. Alternative energy is important, but currently we do not have the infrastructure to let free market handle green energy yet since the recession.
And if you give up oil, gas and coal as a means of fuel you will give up what powers 60% of your energy usage. Before you get on the "Green Train" espousing Obama's energy policies on YouTube, reduce your energy usage and gas by 60%. If you choose to take a bus, subway, or train instead, account for that. Remember dirty energy accounts for 60% of electricity. Cut that back too!
What a fucking moron.......All of this change is working well...We are now 14 trill in the hole...Gas and food is going through the roof....We are now in another war....Thanks for the change folks...
Granted some of the money we pay to taxes goes to fraudulent ends such as corporate welfare, but the majority of the money given goes to our country. Tax money supports schools, roads, bridges and public works projects, it supports the elderly and the disabled, it supports Americans. It supports the men and women who put everything they have on the line for our country. Taxes are patriotic. Pay your taxes or get the hell out of my country.
@zjprice If I pick your pocket, or take your wallet at the point of a gun, is that okay as long as I plan to spend the money on something I find to be virtuous? Most of the money raised (AKA stolen) by government goes on the running of the bureaucracy. Only a small percentage ends up 'helping' the poor. Charities are far more efficient at helping the genuinely needy. Government action often does more to entrench people in poverty, than to help them out of it. It throttles the economy to do it!
@dalriada842 That is not true. Look at countries like Canada and Denmark. Crime rate per capital is much lower than ours, they have free health care and in Denmark some of the jails have been converted because their are not enough inmates. I strongly believe in capitalistic socialism. Pure capitalism just eats up the little guy and creates a huge class of the poor who then commit crimes and violence.
@PorkChopMissPiggy I live in the UK where we have high marginal rates of taxation to pay for welfare, and high crime rates! The government consumes 53% of the nations wealth in the process, which makes our economy uncompetitive. If you live in the US, you should be aware that it is far from a capitalistic society. It's more socialist/corporatist. A more traditional sense of civic virtue accounts for the lower crime in these other countries.
@dalriada842 I think it all goes back to education. Educated women overwhelmingly tend to have kids later on in life, have less kids, her children will be better educated, less inclined to commit crimes and contribute to society. For less educated women it is the other way around. Our jails are mostly filled with people who come from poorly educated families/single mothers. That's why the government needs to provide free education and free housing while their in school.
@PorkChopMissPiggy I agreed with all but your conclusion. The following is a fascinating lecture on the legal system in Japan. It is just over 50 minutes long.
/watch?v=rZC_rD9eIV4
It shows the importance of familial bonds and a sense of civic values. Standards that have been largely lost in other industrial societies. I accept that people with your political outlook are well-meaning, but there are unintended consequences to your solutions that make societal decay worse. Continued
@PorkChopMissPiggy The welfare system has largely destroyed the extended familial relationships, that once saw people through hard times. The nuclear family has come increasingly under attack. Divorce is rampant, largely brought by hypergamous women. Family courts are intent upon removing fathers from their children's lives. A single mother is financially better, on benefits, if she does not live with a man. The role of men has been demoted and denigrated. Women are encouraged to work.Continued
@PorkChopMissPiggy This then leads to the state nationalising the role of the parent. The result has been that boys raised in single mother households are 10 times more likely to end up in jail. Girls are 2.5 times more likely to have a teenage pregnancy. Women often have to work, when they would rather raise their own children. Our countries have native populations that are breeding at well below replacement level, making the welfare system unsustainable, and requiring large scale immigration.
@PorkChopMissPiggy I could go on but YT comments aren't the best way to have a long discussion. Whenever there is some benefit offered, people will so order their lives as to make themselves eligible for it. This has disastrous consequences. An atomised, selfish and dependant society, with a bloated control-freak government, is the result. The chronic debt in our two countries caused by this approach threatens to sink our economies.
Turn it right back on Biden... It's time to be patriotic, Biden, time to jump in, if you're a govt stealing billions from its people, it's time to give it back you thieving POS.
Are you fucking kidding me??? Yeah, Let's take the money from successful human beings, and give it to people who don't wan't to work. Biden is Robin Hood ya'll. Be patriotic and give the power back to the people....
Yeah, greed is patriotic when the government is the greedy, corrupt entity that takes what it wants by force without any recourse for the victim of the theft.
The politicians play by a different set of rules than "we the people" They don't follow the laws that they create, they will never say it but they think all americans are stupid and need to be told what to do,how to act,how to think because the people in office know whats best for us and without them we would just be braindead morons sucking our thumbs waiting for the end of the world. The worst part is they can't even run their own lives but they will tell us how to run ours.
He is so full of shit. Non of these people live by the laws they create for us. They have tax issues and are getting away with it. look at Obama's nominees. Geitner I'm talking to you. Rangle talking to you. Dodd and Reid you too. Below I posted a little game they play with a S corporation loop hole what say we close this down. Look at how much Edwards has ripped off. No wonder he could build that big glass house he lives in in N.C.
Mr. Edwards, John Kerry's running mate last year, ran into criticism for taking "only" $360,000 of salary from his S corporation law practice, taking the remaining $26 million or so as S corporation distributions. S corporation distributions are not subject to the federal FICA and Medicare tax, so Mr. Edwards saved about $738,000 on the 2.9% medicare tax.
What about the billions of untaxed dollars that are wired to central and south america by illegal immigrants who are working in the United States? They shouldn't be patriotic, Joe? Maybe they are being patriotic to their countries of origin, which they are citizens of, by sending all that untaxed U.S. money which was earned in the U.S. while they were doing U.S. jobs (which our citizens could have been doing) back home.
That's why we have a huge Natl debt., Reagan saw to that. He gave them huge tax breaks and the debt began growing from under a trillion to over 10 trillion under "W".
I just read an article on ol' Joe and Obama and what they paid in taxes... Obama has made about 6 million the past two years, dang it sure pays to be pres. And VP made over a million last year. The kicker is Joe only paid 1k to charity, now isnt that special... 1k = cheap skate
there is one way to correct all of this. Vote their happy asses out of Congress. We put them there and we can take them out. Either that or as somebody else put it, go down to D.C. and get in their faces.
this country is already fucked up when people with minor felons can't find work. You have done your time, but guess what no work for you. There is a lot that needs to be cleaned up in the system and we are not really there yet and i don't think we ever will be with who we have representing us.
So, Biden, what about Geithner and Daschle? I guess they are considered TERRORISTS now, correct? They didn't pay taxes on millions of dollars..and Biden himself claimed that "paying taxes is the most patriotic thing you can do". Hmm...what a bunch of cheats and liars.
I'm all for the rich being patriotic in the way the Founding Fathers were: by laying their lives and fortunes on the line and recruiting, training and leading a military force that can take this country back by waging "Liberal" season until enough of the scum are dead that we can live in Liberty again.
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They will force a "Michael Collins" (watch the movie) scenario on us soon.
Which ones? The people who agitated for and fought the revolution, those responsible for the Declaration of Independence, who were either outright anarchists (in the individualist American tradition going back at least a century prior) or pretty damn close and who had nothing in common with modern "liberals" or "conservatives"? Or the scum responsible for the Constitution, Hamilton's "Federalists", the ideological forefathers of both modern "liberals" and "conservatives"?
While I probably have even more contempt for self flagellating leftists like Cindy Sheehan, John Kerry and their ilk, I think you're way off base if you think that "liberals" and not the GOP are responsible for our dismal fortunes and lack of freedoms today- unless your idea of freedom revolves around the right to own a room full of machine guns. It's been the GOP and their get tough on crime crusade, as well as corporate greed, that's fucked this country up but good.
The gop is guilty of much, not the least for not kicking out john mccommie years ago. But when some piece of shit is moving to disarm you it needs killing. End of discussion.
God 4yrs of a socialist halfbreed muslim and this complete and total idiot of a douchbag biden, oh man we're in such trouble it's not even remotely funny....seriously people, we're in dire straights here!!!
you guys dont seem to realize, either way, we'll be paying higher taxes, which will hopefully boost the economy, and help the citizens in the LONG run! so what if you dont get those few extra bucks a month, most of you will probably spend it on items that aren't necessary, i.e. candy, tv, cable, etc. When you should be spending it on paying electric/water/ rent/mortage, and IRA. People will never learn and waste money.
So..giving the gov't more money to throw away on multi-billion dollar bailouts of PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE TAKEN PROFITS FOR DECADES is in th best interest of the common American why?? You are so brainwashed it's actually quite sad.
That was Bush buddy. And I didn't say anything about the bailouts, do you not agree with taxes. I would rather get out of this debt. Because, according to the govt and my economy course, every American citizens, will owe about $30,000 to pay down this debt.
While there is logic to your point there is equal logic to the position that government is even MORE wasteful and they do not have more right to be wasteful with our money than we do.
That said I'm all for sticking it to the rich because I'm poor.
So I' assuming that the rabid Michigan football fan and youtube and regular youtube commenter is so concerened because his income exceeds 250,000 dollars a year. Or maybe he doesn't even know that under the Obama tax plan, if by chance he is not a CEO or chairman of a successful company, will actually benefit him more.
BagelsForever... Who are you to decide who's rich? As we've seen during the campaign, the arbitrary definition of "wealthy" keeps going down. Obama started at $250K, then said $200K. Biden then dropped the bar to $150,000. Bill Richardson later stated the limit was $120K. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama eventually defined me as wealthy with my less than $80K salary. Maybe then I should just live the easy life, stop working, and accept govt handouts like everyone else.
That seems to be the consensus among socialists... "Oh well, not my problem".
Who cares about the people who worked hard all their lives to make it big in life, right? Afterall, YOU deserve a piece of their pie.
And why should YOU have to strive to be someone in life... a doctor, a physicist, or maybe a great entrepreneur... when you can just live off what the govt takes from other people.
Actually no, Republicans believe in being able to give to charity by yourself, on your own free will, rather than having the government take your money from you and do it for you.
What's the difference? Both are patriotic. If you're going to donate your money to charity anyway then you should be thanking the government for saving you some of the trouble.
Um no, because people should be able to do what they want with their own money, they shouldn't have to give it to people who didn't earn it. If the government spends it on programs that benefit everyone, fine, but I don't want the government taking my money by force and giving it to people who didn't earn it.
Please help me understand where it states ANYWHERE that I am responsible to put money in your pocket, food on your table, pay for your utility bills, pay your kids' college, and that you are permitted to steal it from me??? Please...show me where it states this in our Constitution...I was busy working the day they said it on MSNBC so I must have missed it.
Paying higher taxes IS patriotic. It's supporting the government. Other than joining the armed forces to defend the country with your life, what's more patriotic than supporting your government with your hard-earned money? I'm not saying taxes should go up, but I'm also not gonna say that paying LESS taxes is patriotic, because it's not. That's like saying NOT joining the military is patriotic. Biden's right. Don't shoot the messenger.
I never knew involuntarily giving over your income to the government is patriotic. I guess that means every member of Communist Party USA is patriotic because they pay taxes right? Biden is ridiculous.
The middle class consumer & worker is the backbone of our economy. It is with help for the middle class where tax cuts do the most as fiscal stimulus. This is because you have the greatest multiplier with the middle class where funds are injected right back to the economy. Investment in education and healthcare make our middle class more competitive with other countries, far better than more tax cuts for corps which just give the money as windfalls for rich CEOs who don't need it.
Actually Obama/Biden will cut taxes for 95% of americans, and will do much more to cut taxes for the middle class than McCain/Palin. McCain will actually increase taxes for the middle class because he is going to tax health insurance for your companies, so that is going to come straight out of your paycheck. Obama/Biden will invest in jobs, education, and healthcare which prvide added fiscal stimulus for middle-class americans, the backbone of stimulus for the economy: the consumer and worker.
Yeah! Actually, Obama will give 40+% of the tax refunds to people who don't pay any taxes at all... so it's even better! They get other people's tax money. So cool. Obama and Biden are super generous that way. This is patriotism, people. These 2 will take this country in places it has never been before. I think they should raise rich people's taxes to 80% and give it to people making less than $25,000 a year. That would be really cool.
You know, there is NO cap on how much you can volunteer to the government if you really, really want to pay it. I say if Joe Bidden, the Kerry's, the Clintons, the Kennedy's, Oprah, Bette Middler, etc, etc. want to be more "patriotic" they can give as much as they want.
Of course, Charlie Rangel(D) New York Dist. 15, doesn't feel that way. He doesn't pay taxes on his rental properties...I guess he doesn't want HIS tax dollars going to that welfare state he calls a congressional district.
Wow things do not look good for the Obama Biden ticket.Biden dose not like the cheap attackes form Obammies people.And Obama has to tell Biden to STFU.LMFAO Obama should have
picked a ultra Liberal brainless running mate to echo his views.Its not to late to call up Clinton.
Funny that pointless war plan has been working pretty damn good.Or like most Liberals do the facts escape you.Truth is Obammi originally opposed The troupe build up.Now he acts like it was his idea.Tell you the truth if Biden was the one running for President i probably wouldn't be voting for McCain.I do not trust Obama at all and when you look back neither did Biden.
Try to remember the hundreds of thousands of bodies found in mass graves in Iraq before calling the war in Iraq pointless.Sometimes the only hope for countries with leaders committing atrocities is for another country to come in & replace the evil leadership with a better 1.The government is necessary for enforcing laws in a disinterested way, sometimes even in another country. But private entities are better at charity b/c voluntary giving is more attractive and motivating than forced giving.
I'd rather invest billions in world wide welfare than spreading "freedom" with the barrel of a gun. But that's my pussy liberal POV. I don't get all hard over bombing the crap out of a country.
To: ModernBlend -- that's your choice. Why don't you just write a check to the slobs on welfare with their hands held out, because I don't want to. I used to be a brainwashed liberal thinking independent. I saw the light. I'm all for peace and all that other progressive liberal lovetalk, but when some assholes kill innocent people, I say bomb the f-ing hell out of them! Wake up dreamer.
You say your "all for peace and all that other progressive liberal lovetalk" but sounds like you make love like a conservative, selfish, greedy, and without a condom. I write my check to the "slobs on welfare" every year I pay my taxes. Yes, I dream. I dream of paying the slobs on welfare instead of paying to bomb "assholes." Cause really, there's a little bit of "assholes who kill innocent people" in all countries.
there is a very clear agenda here. gouge all individuals that don't typically vote dem. give all kinds of freebies to those that do. this is about BUYING VOTES and keeping those voters as dependent on big brother as possible.
If the government taxed us less, we could give more and be real patriots. I'm not saying that we shouldn't pay our taxes. Paying taxes is the law. But I'm just saying that taxes take away from people's ability to show voluntary kindness. Joe Biden is not advocating voluntary kindness. He's advocating an obligatory increase in taxes. That means the only reason you pay is because they'll lock you up if you don't, not because of patriotism. You can't express patriotism when it's forced upon you.
To: itsfromdaddy - Yeah, if you believe that I have a bridge for sale... Give me a break. Obama has told so many lies he can't even keep track of them. He'll say and do anything to be elected and then will rule like a dictator! He's a NARSACCISTIC MANIAC!
It's a fact that conservatives give more than liberals, even though they make less on average. Look up the book Who Really Cares by Arthur C. Brooks. The stats are clear. Conservatives in general give more than liberals. They just don't want to be forced to give. Taxes take away from the joy of giving because it's forced. You can't honor anyone by giving to the govn't. Private giving to private organizations is more efficient and bypass govn't bureaucracies.
If liberals think it's patriotic to force others to pay higher taxes, they should force people who agree with their definition of patriotism first. Make everyone who thinks it's okay to force others to pay higher taxes pay higher taxes!
Im not rich. I make less than $30,000 a year and I'm offended by this notion. It would wipe out small business while sticking it to the big corps. and prevent new ones from forming. Jack asses. Im not ready to live in the "United Socialist States of America"
Joe Biden: FUCK YOU!!!!! What an arrogant piece of shit!!! This jackass hasn't a clue what patriotism means! To equate paying taxes with patriotism is just one example of how much an IMBECILE Biden is! I served 2 tours in Vietnam and for this idiot to somehow suggest that I am not patriotic because I do not believe in paying higher taxes is an insult to all those who have served. Obama could NOT have picked a worse VP candidate! Once again a BIG FUCK YOU to you!!!!!
Paying more taxes for redistribution of wealth is patriotic???? Is this guy kidding? Those who make over $250K already pay 80% of the taxes in this country. Biden is an angry old man and BHO is a far left, America hating socialist. One can only pray they lose this election.
In the last ten years, Biden has contributed a total of $3,000. Liberals like Biden and Obama are generous, with the taxpayers money. When it comes to their own money, it's a different story.
What so many fail to understand is that this tax hike would include small businesses. A friend of mine owns a small business that will qualify as "wealthy" under Obama's plan. Said friend doesn't even make enough profit to afford mortgage payments and so rents a small house. Hardly a rich, greedy, elite man. When small businesses fail watch what happens to the middle class.
Unless you're rich you really shouldn't vote Republican. If you're rich, amoral and greedy, sure. I can understand why because the Republican party is like an elite club. Once you're rich like they are they'll do whatever they can to protect your corporation even you're outsourcing work to India and China and helping their economy prosper. It's all about the rich staying rich and sending the rest off to war to protect the rich or whenever it's financially convenient to do so. Biden's right.
Obama and Biden are rich. 8 out of the top richest members in the senate are democrats. The ex CEO of Fannie Mae, democrat Franklin Raines, left with $90 million. The ex CEO of Countrywide, democrat Jim Johnson, left with $7 million. Obama just had a funraiser in Beverly Hills where people paid $28,750 a person! Hollywood rich elites are democrats.
Also keep in mind that Obama wants those two losers, Raines and Johnson as his financial advisers. Yes, people who drive large corporations right into the ground sound like great picks, much like Biden.
It's all Chicago political machine-style cronyism politics as usual for the community organizer.
Oh, typical Obama supporter here, ladies and gentlemen! Note as this person is the least articulate on this comment board as well as seeming to have no sense of grammar, logic or factual basis for defending Biden!
Yes, we certainly wouldn't want the economy of China, India or America to prosper by outsourcing, now would we?
The best part of Obama's plan is to NOT give tax breaks to corporations that outsource jobs. That's genius. That's forward-thinking. That will help make America stronger.
You are absolutely right! That way, they can open back up that manufacturing plant in the Midwest and pay whatever the teamsters tell them to for fear of their staff going on strike. Then, they can pass the added costs on to us, the consumers. You might call it genius, intelligent people call it inflation. Idiot!
You are absolutely right! That way, they can open back up that manufacturing plant in the Midwest and pay whatever the teamsters tell them to for fear of their staff going on strike. Then, they can pass the added costs on to us, the consumers. You might call it genius, intelligent people call it inflation. Idiot!
Giving big tax cuts to the rich hasn't worked. It's flawed. Rich CEOs aren't taking that extra tax saving and giving back to America with new jobs. They're spending it overseas, outsourcing jobs and investing in foreign markets. They have no motivation to invest their tax savings back in the country that gave them the opportunity to become rich in the first place. Why should they? They can use that money in China or India and make more. Meanwhile, the middle-class pays more than it can afford.
Isn't this the same idiot who last week asked a wheelchair bound man to stand up for some applause? Isn't this the same guy who last week said hillary would have been a better choice? Now this moron is saying giving our inept government more of my money is patriotic. Hey Joe ... go to the IRS's own website you dumb twit. The top 2% of wage earners in the USA pay 40% of all collected taxes. My God no wonder the dems have lost 7 out of the last 10 elections. Same old tax and spend programs.
The society they live in allows for that type of wealth accumulation. Without the ground worker, there would be no way to make such big money. So they're paying a higher percentage of taxes. It's sort of like a video game. You pay more at the next level, no? More risk but hard to fall back to square one. More than fair.
whats wrong republicans? oh sure, its all fine and dandy to send middle class kids overseas to fight and die for their country and anyone who rejects the idea is unpatriotic, but you cant pay a little more taxes to help them out. I doubt the vast majority of people who will reject this notion earn 250k!
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We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. Politicians love visible beneficiaries & invisible victims !
There is no such thing as a good tax. Politicians are leaches, mostly !
Three groups spend other people's money: children, thieves, politicians. All three need supervision.
onstageagain 5 months ago
Joe Biden claimed that the $862 Billion failed stimulus ($400 remains unspent) “created or saved” 750,000 jobs. Economists don’t recognize jobs saved, and the jobs saved may have been keep local agencies afloat. When the money ran out, the people lost their jobs. Currently States are considering filing bankruptcy for spending. watch?v=IqmeT5ykKf0
The Govt owns 61% of GM, GOOGLE, “GM's electric-car fantasy running out of gas” and read links. The Green Movement should be free market driven
FreedomInAmerica 7 months ago
@FreedomInAmerica Yes, that sounds all nice and good, but we are not exactly in the right economic position to do green free market.
The whole idea is that sometimes free markets works miracles, but other times it fails miserably. We need to regulate the free market so they all play by the same rule and not try to bend the rules by lobbying. Alternative energy is important, but currently we do not have the infrastructure to let free market handle green energy yet since the recession.
Neosaigo 7 months ago
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Futurecop2012C 8 months ago
What a fucking moron.......All of this change is working well...We are now 14 trill in the hole...Gas and food is going through the roof....We are now in another war....Thanks for the change folks...
avionicswirenut 9 months ago
Listen to the (Higher Taxes Losing Freedom song)
8902654 1 year ago
Granted some of the money we pay to taxes goes to fraudulent ends such as corporate welfare, but the majority of the money given goes to our country. Tax money supports schools, roads, bridges and public works projects, it supports the elderly and the disabled, it supports Americans. It supports the men and women who put everything they have on the line for our country. Taxes are patriotic. Pay your taxes or get the hell out of my country.
zjprice 1 year ago
@zjprice Couldn't agree more. Well said.
davewinger 1 year ago
@zjprice If I pick your pocket, or take your wallet at the point of a gun, is that okay as long as I plan to spend the money on something I find to be virtuous? Most of the money raised (AKA stolen) by government goes on the running of the bureaucracy. Only a small percentage ends up 'helping' the poor. Charities are far more efficient at helping the genuinely needy. Government action often does more to entrench people in poverty, than to help them out of it. It throttles the economy to do it!
dalriada842 11 months ago
@dalriada842 That is not true. Look at countries like Canada and Denmark. Crime rate per capital is much lower than ours, they have free health care and in Denmark some of the jails have been converted because their are not enough inmates. I strongly believe in capitalistic socialism. Pure capitalism just eats up the little guy and creates a huge class of the poor who then commit crimes and violence.
PorkChopMissPiggy 11 months ago
@PorkChopMissPiggy I live in the UK where we have high marginal rates of taxation to pay for welfare, and high crime rates! The government consumes 53% of the nations wealth in the process, which makes our economy uncompetitive. If you live in the US, you should be aware that it is far from a capitalistic society. It's more socialist/corporatist. A more traditional sense of civic virtue accounts for the lower crime in these other countries.
dalriada842 11 months ago
@dalriada842 I think it all goes back to education. Educated women overwhelmingly tend to have kids later on in life, have less kids, her children will be better educated, less inclined to commit crimes and contribute to society. For less educated women it is the other way around. Our jails are mostly filled with people who come from poorly educated families/single mothers. That's why the government needs to provide free education and free housing while their in school.
PorkChopMissPiggy 11 months ago
@PorkChopMissPiggy I agreed with all but your conclusion. The following is a fascinating lecture on the legal system in Japan. It is just over 50 minutes long.
/watch?v=rZC_rD9eIV4
It shows the importance of familial bonds and a sense of civic values. Standards that have been largely lost in other industrial societies. I accept that people with your political outlook are well-meaning, but there are unintended consequences to your solutions that make societal decay worse. Continued
dalriada842 11 months ago
@PorkChopMissPiggy The welfare system has largely destroyed the extended familial relationships, that once saw people through hard times. The nuclear family has come increasingly under attack. Divorce is rampant, largely brought by hypergamous women. Family courts are intent upon removing fathers from their children's lives. A single mother is financially better, on benefits, if she does not live with a man. The role of men has been demoted and denigrated. Women are encouraged to work.Continued
dalriada842 11 months ago
@PorkChopMissPiggy This then leads to the state nationalising the role of the parent. The result has been that boys raised in single mother households are 10 times more likely to end up in jail. Girls are 2.5 times more likely to have a teenage pregnancy. Women often have to work, when they would rather raise their own children. Our countries have native populations that are breeding at well below replacement level, making the welfare system unsustainable, and requiring large scale immigration.
dalriada842 11 months ago
@PorkChopMissPiggy I could go on but YT comments aren't the best way to have a long discussion. Whenever there is some benefit offered, people will so order their lives as to make themselves eligible for it. This has disastrous consequences. An atomised, selfish and dependant society, with a bloated control-freak government, is the result. The chronic debt in our two countries caused by this approach threatens to sink our economies.
dalriada842 11 months ago
Turn it right back on Biden... It's time to be patriotic, Biden, time to jump in, if you're a govt stealing billions from its people, it's time to give it back you thieving POS.
hughtub 1 year ago
Biden earns $333,000.00 and pays only 22% taxes.
rdx506 1 year ago
Are you fucking kidding me??? Yeah, Let's take the money from successful human beings, and give it to people who don't wan't to work. Biden is Robin Hood ya'll. Be patriotic and give the power back to the people....
Bluestouse86 1 year ago 2
This man is so stupid. Doesn't he know that greed is true patriotism?
rick9565 1 year ago
@rick9565
Yeah, greed is patriotic when the government is the greedy, corrupt entity that takes what it wants by force without any recourse for the victim of the theft.
Freethought42 1 year ago
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8902654 2 years ago
Let me translate that low life . We need to take the MIDDLE CLASS. We need more spending power.
Seamlady 2 years ago
What an idiot
ny1t 2 years ago
Yeah that's right it's time to be patriotic by forcing them. Wow that just doesn't seem like the American way to me.
beatboxbill 2 years ago
Biden proves that Democrats are unpatriotic.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
The politicians play by a different set of rules than "we the people" They don't follow the laws that they create, they will never say it but they think all americans are stupid and need to be told what to do,how to act,how to think because the people in office know whats best for us and without them we would just be braindead morons sucking our thumbs waiting for the end of the world. The worst part is they can't even run their own lives but they will tell us how to run ours.
TheJon117 2 years ago
He is so full of shit. Non of these people live by the laws they create for us. They have tax issues and are getting away with it. look at Obama's nominees. Geitner I'm talking to you. Rangle talking to you. Dodd and Reid you too. Below I posted a little game they play with a S corporation loop hole what say we close this down. Look at how much Edwards has ripped off. No wonder he could build that big glass house he lives in in N.C.
votethemoutnow 2 years ago
Mr. Edwards, John Kerry's running mate last year, ran into criticism for taking "only" $360,000 of salary from his S corporation law practice, taking the remaining $26 million or so as S corporation distributions. S corporation distributions are not subject to the federal FICA and Medicare tax, so Mr. Edwards saved about $738,000 on the 2.9% medicare tax.
votethemoutnow 2 years ago 2
What about the billions of untaxed dollars that are wired to central and south america by illegal immigrants who are working in the United States? They shouldn't be patriotic, Joe? Maybe they are being patriotic to their countries of origin, which they are citizens of, by sending all that untaxed U.S. money which was earned in the U.S. while they were doing U.S. jobs (which our citizens could have been doing) back home.
jamonit666 2 years ago
Hey Joe. What about the campaign promises!!!
wofasifu 2 years ago
What a creepy smile at 0:18
10forRP 2 years ago
A guy whose salary is based solely off of American taxpayer dollars is telling people that more taxes is the "patriotic" thing to do. Fantastic.
Hooah1984 2 years ago 2
What a smarmy cocksucker.
Xbizkitl 2 years ago
The rich don't want to pay taxes.
That's why we have a huge Natl debt., Reagan saw to that. He gave them huge tax breaks and the debt began growing from under a trillion to over 10 trillion under "W".
They always get their way.
Atomsmasher777 2 years ago
taxpayers working to pay taxes = Patriotism. So...nonworking/nontaxpaying citizens are what???? Hummmm let me think!
Married2aMARINE 2 years ago
The entire Obama Cabinet is unpatriotic.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
His ENTIRE CABINET is SCARY!
AND...talking about Patriotic vs UNPatriotic...let's compare what the Bidens and Obamas made and declared as taxes and Charity on their tax returns!
Married2aMARINE 2 years ago
This proves Democrats are unpatriotic because they don't pay taxes!
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago 2
I just read an article on ol' Joe and Obama and what they paid in taxes... Obama has made about 6 million the past two years, dang it sure pays to be pres. And VP made over a million last year. The kicker is Joe only paid 1k to charity, now isnt that special... 1k = cheap skate
bigdsears 2 years ago 2
FUCK YOU PIG....
TLPFAS 2 years ago
there is one way to correct all of this. Vote their happy asses out of Congress. We put them there and we can take them out. Either that or as somebody else put it, go down to D.C. and get in their faces.
X23109 2 years ago 4
this country is already fucked up when people with minor felons can't find work. You have done your time, but guess what no work for you. There is a lot that needs to be cleaned up in the system and we are not really there yet and i don't think we ever will be with who we have representing us.
X23109 2 years ago
What a bunch of phonies. Those cabinet nominees must be real patriots. Barack you really did your homework on this one.
riidinghard 3 years ago 5
Therefore the secretary of the Treasury, the "chief performance officer" nominee and the nominee to head HHS are all unpatriotic.
NDGrad94 3 years ago 2
Does this mean that Geithner and Daschle are unpatriotic? They should be in JAIL
CircusMaximus09 3 years ago
So, Biden, what about Geithner and Daschle? I guess they are considered TERRORISTS now, correct? They didn't pay taxes on millions of dollars..and Biden himself claimed that "paying taxes is the most patriotic thing you can do". Hmm...what a bunch of cheats and liars.
Rikiru 3 years ago
Like the tax cheat treasury secretary timothy geithner?
mrtanny 3 years ago
I'm all for the rich being patriotic in the way the Founding Fathers were: by laying their lives and fortunes on the line and recruiting, training and leading a military force that can take this country back by waging "Liberal" season until enough of the scum are dead that we can live in Liberty again.
Don't understand? Follow my links. Read the quotes page first. Then share and prepare.
They will force a "Michael Collins" (watch the movie) scenario on us soon.
waypasthadenough 3 years ago
"the Founding Fathers"
Which ones? The people who agitated for and fought the revolution, those responsible for the Declaration of Independence, who were either outright anarchists (in the individualist American tradition going back at least a century prior) or pretty damn close and who had nothing in common with modern "liberals" or "conservatives"? Or the scum responsible for the Constitution, Hamilton's "Federalists", the ideological forefathers of both modern "liberals" and "conservatives"?
Libertarian333 3 years ago
go read my quotes page and find out.
waypasthadenough 3 years ago
While I probably have even more contempt for self flagellating leftists like Cindy Sheehan, John Kerry and their ilk, I think you're way off base if you think that "liberals" and not the GOP are responsible for our dismal fortunes and lack of freedoms today- unless your idea of freedom revolves around the right to own a room full of machine guns. It's been the GOP and their get tough on crime crusade, as well as corporate greed, that's fucked this country up but good.
batvette 3 years ago
The gop is guilty of much, not the least for not kicking out john mccommie years ago. But when some piece of shit is moving to disarm you it needs killing. End of discussion.
waypasthadenough 3 years ago
Joe, you're NOT a good guy.
Lanny1966 3 years ago
God 4yrs of a socialist halfbreed muslim and this complete and total idiot of a douchbag biden, oh man we're in such trouble it's not even remotely funny....seriously people, we're in dire straights here!!!
BlacKnightRising 3 years ago
you guys dont seem to realize, either way, we'll be paying higher taxes, which will hopefully boost the economy, and help the citizens in the LONG run! so what if you dont get those few extra bucks a month, most of you will probably spend it on items that aren't necessary, i.e. candy, tv, cable, etc. When you should be spending it on paying electric/water/ rent/mortage, and IRA. People will never learn and waste money.
po3jax 3 years ago
So..giving the gov't more money to throw away on multi-billion dollar bailouts of PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE TAKEN PROFITS FOR DECADES is in th best interest of the common American why?? You are so brainwashed it's actually quite sad.
Rikiru 3 years ago
That was Bush buddy. And I didn't say anything about the bailouts, do you not agree with taxes. I would rather get out of this debt. Because, according to the govt and my economy course, every American citizens, will owe about $30,000 to pay down this debt.
po3jax 3 years ago
While there is logic to your point there is equal logic to the position that government is even MORE wasteful and they do not have more right to be wasteful with our money than we do.
That said I'm all for sticking it to the rich because I'm poor.
batvette 3 years ago
agreed lol
po3jax 3 years ago
And I'm probably poorer than you so I want the govt. to steal what you have and give it to me.
That's OK isn't it?
What perfect slaves most amerikans are.
waypasthadenough 3 years ago
What a piece of slime.
coffeeintheface 3 years ago
I guess i'll need to start being patriotic when that $250K figure makes its way below the $100K mark.
iuseapowermacg4 3 years ago
Agreed. You earn it, it's yours.
I doubt I'll ever make that much money, but it's the principle of taking someone else's earnings that I find to be unfair.
xreadytolivex 3 years ago
So I' assuming that the rabid Michigan football fan and youtube and regular youtube commenter is so concerened because his income exceeds 250,000 dollars a year. Or maybe he doesn't even know that under the Obama tax plan, if by chance he is not a CEO or chairman of a successful company, will actually benefit him more.
J23Gilly 3 years ago
So what if his income exceeds $250k? If he earned it he should keep it. No one has a right to it
HammockTimeNow 3 years ago 2
Too bad most rich people don't earn their money. i.e. John McCain
BagelsForever 3 years ago
Bagels...I do agree with you...HOWEVER, why punish those that WORKED for it, because a few were "genetically privedged"?
HammockTimeNow 3 years ago
It's not punishment, they're still rich. They can still buy almost anything they want. Ohh man 1 less golden Hummer I can't bear it!!
BagelsForever 3 years ago
BagelsForever... Who are you to decide who's rich? As we've seen during the campaign, the arbitrary definition of "wealthy" keeps going down. Obama started at $250K, then said $200K. Biden then dropped the bar to $150,000. Bill Richardson later stated the limit was $120K. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama eventually defined me as wealthy with my less than $80K salary. Maybe then I should just live the easy life, stop working, and accept govt handouts like everyone else.
iuseapowermacg4 3 years ago
Oh well not my problem!
BagelsForever 3 years ago
bagelsforever...
That seems to be the consensus among socialists... "Oh well, not my problem".
Who cares about the people who worked hard all their lives to make it big in life, right? Afterall, YOU deserve a piece of their pie.
And why should YOU have to strive to be someone in life... a doctor, a physicist, or maybe a great entrepreneur... when you can just live off what the govt takes from other people.
iuseapowermacg4 3 years ago
You really can't generalize that.
skumringbegravelse 3 years ago
i guess biden forgot why we had a boston tea party? unfair taxation!
PittSoccer33 3 years ago
they keep taking down the stupid biden videos. come on, this man has 'more experience' than palin and is twice as stupid.
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Vinny0151 3 years ago
I just want to say that the look on his face when he leans in trying to sell higher taxes as patriotic is condescending and creepy as hell.
Aezaux 3 years ago
Republicans consider wearing a plastic flag on your chest patriotic but not helping out less fortunate fellow Americans if you're rich.
BagelsForever 3 years ago
Actually no, Republicans believe in being able to give to charity by yourself, on your own free will, rather than having the government take your money from you and do it for you.
rjfrjf65 3 years ago 3
What's the difference? Both are patriotic. If you're going to donate your money to charity anyway then you should be thanking the government for saving you some of the trouble.
BagelsForever 3 years ago
Um no, because people should be able to do what they want with their own money, they shouldn't have to give it to people who didn't earn it. If the government spends it on programs that benefit everyone, fine, but I don't want the government taking my money by force and giving it to people who didn't earn it.
rjfrjf65 3 years ago
WHAAAT? No one should be telling ME where my hard-earned money should go.....THAT's stealing
HammockTimeNow 3 years ago
I trust charities with my money more than the government.
skumringbegravelse 3 years ago
A M E N !!
winter599 3 years ago
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Please help me understand where it states ANYWHERE that I am responsible to put money in your pocket, food on your table, pay for your utility bills, pay your kids' college, and that you are permitted to steal it from me??? Please...show me where it states this in our Constitution...I was busy working the day they said it on MSNBC so I must have missed it.
hammocktime2002 3 years ago 2
Paying higher taxes IS patriotic. It's supporting the government. Other than joining the armed forces to defend the country with your life, what's more patriotic than supporting your government with your hard-earned money? I'm not saying taxes should go up, but I'm also not gonna say that paying LESS taxes is patriotic, because it's not. That's like saying NOT joining the military is patriotic. Biden's right. Don't shoot the messenger.
johnbohl 3 years ago
I never knew involuntarily giving over your income to the government is patriotic. I guess that means every member of Communist Party USA is patriotic because they pay taxes right? Biden is ridiculous.
rjfrjf65 3 years ago
So, I guess by your rationale, people who were drafted into the army involuntarily aren't patriotic, either? Way to respect our veterans!
johnbohl 3 years ago 2
Haha nice try, putting words into my mouth.
rjfrjf65 3 years ago
I never knew paying higher taxes is patriotic hahaha
metalxmustang 3 years ago
I wonder how Biden will do in the debates.
mejercit 3 years ago
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The middle class consumer & worker is the backbone of our economy. It is with help for the middle class where tax cuts do the most as fiscal stimulus. This is because you have the greatest multiplier with the middle class where funds are injected right back to the economy. Investment in education and healthcare make our middle class more competitive with other countries, far better than more tax cuts for corps which just give the money as windfalls for rich CEOs who don't need it.
bRinkinect 3 years ago
Actually Obama/Biden will cut taxes for 95% of americans, and will do much more to cut taxes for the middle class than McCain/Palin. McCain will actually increase taxes for the middle class because he is going to tax health insurance for your companies, so that is going to come straight out of your paycheck. Obama/Biden will invest in jobs, education, and healthcare which prvide added fiscal stimulus for middle-class americans, the backbone of stimulus for the economy: the consumer and worker.
bRinkinect 3 years ago
Yeah! Actually, Obama will give 40+% of the tax refunds to people who don't pay any taxes at all... so it's even better! They get other people's tax money. So cool. Obama and Biden are super generous that way. This is patriotism, people. These 2 will take this country in places it has never been before. I think they should raise rich people's taxes to 80% and give it to people making less than $25,000 a year. That would be really cool.
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jbob30 3 years ago
You know, there is NO cap on how much you can volunteer to the government if you really, really want to pay it. I say if Joe Bidden, the Kerry's, the Clintons, the Kennedy's, Oprah, Bette Middler, etc, etc. want to be more "patriotic" they can give as much as they want.
Of course, Charlie Rangel(D) New York Dist. 15, doesn't feel that way. He doesn't pay taxes on his rental properties...I guess he doesn't want HIS tax dollars going to that welfare state he calls a congressional district.
Pappy76248 3 years ago
I have yet to hear a valid excuse for stealing money from the people who earned it and giving it to the people who didn't.
When did reaping the rewards for one's hard work become a crime?
Strontium9T 3 years ago 3
Wow things do not look good for the Obama Biden ticket.Biden dose not like the cheap attackes form Obammies people.And Obama has to tell Biden to STFU.LMFAO Obama should have
picked a ultra Liberal brainless running mate to echo his views.Its not to late to call up Clinton.
lwout 3 years ago
Here's all you need to know:
#1 liberal in Senate -- Obama
#3 liberal in Senate -- Biden
It's like putting the wolf in charge of the henhouse if you elect these fools!
McCain/Palin!
aprillh 3 years ago 2
Get over yourselves people. At least Obama and Biden will use your money on America instead of an unnecessary war.
ModernBlend 3 years ago
You really believe that?
How about the world wide welfare fund Obama has promised to the UN that would cost us taxpayers billions of our dollars.
lwout1965 3 years ago
??????? As opposed to the John McCain "dump $10 Billion out the window EVERY MONTH in a pointless war plan?
itsfromdaddy 3 years ago
Funny that pointless war plan has been working pretty damn good.Or like most Liberals do the facts escape you.Truth is Obammi originally opposed The troupe build up.Now he acts like it was his idea.Tell you the truth if Biden was the one running for President i probably wouldn't be voting for McCain.I do not trust Obama at all and when you look back neither did Biden.
lwout1965 3 years ago
Really? The war plan has been working pretty damn good? Really? Well, I can't argue with that kind of optimism.
ModernBlend 3 years ago
Try to remember the hundreds of thousands of bodies found in mass graves in Iraq before calling the war in Iraq pointless.Sometimes the only hope for countries with leaders committing atrocities is for another country to come in & replace the evil leadership with a better 1.The government is necessary for enforcing laws in a disinterested way, sometimes even in another country. But private entities are better at charity b/c voluntary giving is more attractive and motivating than forced giving.
perpetuallygrateful 3 years ago 2
Yes.
I'd rather invest billions in world wide welfare than spreading "freedom" with the barrel of a gun. But that's my pussy liberal POV. I don't get all hard over bombing the crap out of a country.
ModernBlend 3 years ago
To: ModernBlend -- that's your choice. Why don't you just write a check to the slobs on welfare with their hands held out, because I don't want to. I used to be a brainwashed liberal thinking independent. I saw the light. I'm all for peace and all that other progressive liberal lovetalk, but when some assholes kill innocent people, I say bomb the f-ing hell out of them! Wake up dreamer.
aprillh 3 years ago
You say your "all for peace and all that other progressive liberal lovetalk" but sounds like you make love like a conservative, selfish, greedy, and without a condom. I write my check to the "slobs on welfare" every year I pay my taxes. Yes, I dream. I dream of paying the slobs on welfare instead of paying to bomb "assholes." Cause really, there's a little bit of "assholes who kill innocent people" in all countries.
ModernBlend 3 years ago
there is a very clear agenda here. gouge all individuals that don't typically vote dem. give all kinds of freebies to those that do. this is about BUYING VOTES and keeping those voters as dependent on big brother as possible.
ajdicks 3 years ago
If the government taxed us less, we could give more and be real patriots. I'm not saying that we shouldn't pay our taxes. Paying taxes is the law. But I'm just saying that taxes take away from people's ability to show voluntary kindness. Joe Biden is not advocating voluntary kindness. He's advocating an obligatory increase in taxes. That means the only reason you pay is because they'll lock you up if you don't, not because of patriotism. You can't express patriotism when it's forced upon you.
perpetuallygrateful 3 years ago
The Obama tax code would give a tax cut to 95% of Americans.
itsfromdaddy 3 years ago
To: itsfromdaddy - Yeah, if you believe that I have a bridge for sale... Give me a break. Obama has told so many lies he can't even keep track of them. He'll say and do anything to be elected and then will rule like a dictator! He's a NARSACCISTIC MANIAC!
aprillh 3 years ago 3
It's a fact that conservatives give more than liberals, even though they make less on average. Look up the book Who Really Cares by Arthur C. Brooks. The stats are clear. Conservatives in general give more than liberals. They just don't want to be forced to give. Taxes take away from the joy of giving because it's forced. You can't honor anyone by giving to the govn't. Private giving to private organizations is more efficient and bypass govn't bureaucracies.
perpetuallygrateful 3 years ago
If liberals think it's patriotic to force others to pay higher taxes, they should force people who agree with their definition of patriotism first. Make everyone who thinks it's okay to force others to pay higher taxes pay higher taxes!
perpetuallygrateful 3 years ago
Fact: Obama has given less than 3% to charity and for many years less than 1% while making over $250k a year.
Fact: Biden has given less than 1% to charity (.46% over 10yrs and typcially a few hundred dollars) while making $2,450,042 over that 10yrs.
The Obama/Biden plan is simple. Use our tax payer money to help those in need. Just don't use any of theirs.
Let them be "Patriotic" with their own money for a while before we give them ours.
Vote McCain/Palin 08'. We don't need more words.
clemski72 3 years ago
I agree. Come on people. Stop being such greedy bastards.
ModernBlend 3 years ago
Yea! Let them steal more of your money. Pretty soon you'll have nothing left to give and you can beg them to feed you.
tesla921 3 years ago
Im not rich. I make less than $30,000 a year and I'm offended by this notion. It would wipe out small business while sticking it to the big corps. and prevent new ones from forming. Jack asses. Im not ready to live in the "United Socialist States of America"
troyhm69 3 years ago
Someone should just whack these two assholes and get it over with.
usmcorey 3 years ago
Joe Biden: FUCK YOU!!!!! What an arrogant piece of shit!!! This jackass hasn't a clue what patriotism means! To equate paying taxes with patriotism is just one example of how much an IMBECILE Biden is! I served 2 tours in Vietnam and for this idiot to somehow suggest that I am not patriotic because I do not believe in paying higher taxes is an insult to all those who have served. Obama could NOT have picked a worse VP candidate! Once again a BIG FUCK YOU to you!!!!!
welfareslobs 3 years ago
Paying more taxes for redistribution of wealth is patriotic???? Is this guy kidding? Those who make over $250K already pay 80% of the taxes in this country. Biden is an angry old man and BHO is a far left, America hating socialist. One can only pray they lose this election.
capitolguy106 3 years ago
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In the last ten years, Biden has contributed a total of $3,000. Liberals like Biden and Obama are generous, with the taxpayers money. When it comes to their own money, it's a different story.
bennyh12345 3 years ago
What so many fail to understand is that this tax hike would include small businesses. A friend of mine owns a small business that will qualify as "wealthy" under Obama's plan. Said friend doesn't even make enough profit to afford mortgage payments and so rents a small house. Hardly a rich, greedy, elite man. When small businesses fail watch what happens to the middle class.
uberswelf 3 years ago
Unless you're rich you really shouldn't vote Republican. If you're rich, amoral and greedy, sure. I can understand why because the Republican party is like an elite club. Once you're rich like they are they'll do whatever they can to protect your corporation even you're outsourcing work to India and China and helping their economy prosper. It's all about the rich staying rich and sending the rest off to war to protect the rich or whenever it's financially convenient to do so. Biden's right.
Ih8urface 3 years ago
Obama and Biden are rich. 8 out of the top richest members in the senate are democrats. The ex CEO of Fannie Mae, democrat Franklin Raines, left with $90 million. The ex CEO of Countrywide, democrat Jim Johnson, left with $7 million. Obama just had a funraiser in Beverly Hills where people paid $28,750 a person! Hollywood rich elites are democrats.
bennyh12345 3 years ago
Also keep in mind that Obama wants those two losers, Raines and Johnson as his financial advisers. Yes, people who drive large corporations right into the ground sound like great picks, much like Biden.
It's all Chicago political machine-style cronyism politics as usual for the community organizer.
illuminatioracle 3 years ago
Oh, typical Obama supporter here, ladies and gentlemen! Note as this person is the least articulate on this comment board as well as seeming to have no sense of grammar, logic or factual basis for defending Biden!
Yes, we certainly wouldn't want the economy of China, India or America to prosper by outsourcing, now would we?
illuminatioracle 3 years ago
The best part of Obama's plan is to NOT give tax breaks to corporations that outsource jobs. That's genius. That's forward-thinking. That will help make America stronger.
Ih8urface 3 years ago
You are absolutely right! That way, they can open back up that manufacturing plant in the Midwest and pay whatever the teamsters tell them to for fear of their staff going on strike. Then, they can pass the added costs on to us, the consumers. You might call it genius, intelligent people call it inflation. Idiot!
usmcorey 3 years ago
You are absolutely right! That way, they can open back up that manufacturing plant in the Midwest and pay whatever the teamsters tell them to for fear of their staff going on strike. Then, they can pass the added costs on to us, the consumers. You might call it genius, intelligent people call it inflation. Idiot!
usmcorey 3 years ago
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Giving big tax cuts to the rich hasn't worked. It's flawed. Rich CEOs aren't taking that extra tax saving and giving back to America with new jobs. They're spending it overseas, outsourcing jobs and investing in foreign markets. They have no motivation to invest their tax savings back in the country that gave them the opportunity to become rich in the first place. Why should they? They can use that money in China or India and make more. Meanwhile, the middle-class pays more than it can afford.
Ih8urface 3 years ago
"We want to take money and put it back in the pockets of middle-class people."
That's called redistribution of wealth. That's called socialism.
I'm sorry, but if I ever earn an income of over 250K, I would rather keep some of it.
tegthethird 3 years ago 3
Isn't this the same idiot who last week asked a wheelchair bound man to stand up for some applause? Isn't this the same guy who last week said hillary would have been a better choice? Now this moron is saying giving our inept government more of my money is patriotic. Hey Joe ... go to the IRS's own website you dumb twit. The top 2% of wage earners in the USA pay 40% of all collected taxes. My God no wonder the dems have lost 7 out of the last 10 elections. Same old tax and spend programs.
milehigh587 3 years ago 3
Hey milehigh,
The top 2% paying 40% of all taxes collected is atrocious, especially because just the top ONE percent earned 42% of all income collected.
ShinigamiKage 3 years ago 2
The society they live in allows for that type of wealth accumulation. Without the ground worker, there would be no way to make such big money. So they're paying a higher percentage of taxes. It's sort of like a video game. You pay more at the next level, no? More risk but hard to fall back to square one. More than fair.
apelletlorange 3 years ago
If you haven't noticed, this conservative mantra BS is getting cheaper and cheaper by the day. Pretty soon it will be off the shelves.
apelletlorange 3 years ago
whats wrong republicans? oh sure, its all fine and dandy to send middle class kids overseas to fight and die for their country and anyone who rejects the idea is unpatriotic, but you cant pay a little more taxes to help them out. I doubt the vast majority of people who will reject this notion earn 250k!
themonsheshe 3 years ago
Okay Joe, you first!!!!
brainyslychic 3 years ago 3
I think he will since he makes more than $200k. I won't since I make less than that.
stewart0312 3 years ago