Triton Trombone Quartet

[MrTherandom]

sheet music?!?!

[cookiemonstrously]

This is beautiful! Maybe I'll try to pick alto trombone just so I can play it!

[muxapixaconpasta]

sencillamente majnifico

[gregrude]

I would dearly love to hear the master tape. Played the 'bone many y'rs ago. Personally, I think that the moving of the horns is excellent effecting by the players, as moving the horns provides phase shifting that allows the horns to be even more fluid. Besides, the act of playing this horn is quite like dancing anyway. Applause!

[maycpaiva]

Divino!!!!

[Chris994601]

Very well phrased and structured. Balance is super.  I think the trombonists move around too much however. I know the alto player is directing, but, the bobbing around is distracting. Having performed for nearly 30 years now, I have learned that all that moving does nothing except take away from the focus of the technical aspects of playing. Just my thoughts and you can disagree.

[LordoftheHobbits]

@Chris994601 Ehh I see where you're coming from. I just believe they're so into and moved by what they're playing, it's just natural.

[perrocabrera]

really good

[Seniosh]

You know, stereotypically trombone players are supposed to be pretty laid-back. It's interesting how that doesn't come through in Youtube comments.

Beautiful piece, I love the timbre of a good trombone quartet. Good proper brassy sound. Just the right blend of rich mellow sound with the occasional edge.

[sam00447]

what song is this?

[stdimg11]

@sam00447

read the description

[jamestrbn]

I think it's hilarious that you're all just bitching about how much you know about playing trombone. How about just saying how awesome this video is? People have different techniques and philosophies about brass playing. If it sounds good it is good. Shut up and watch the video!

[socc3rfanatic1]

Haha u guys should write a book

[skatewillthee]

I played for 2 years. 6th and 7th grade. I was pretty good. But now im 20 and dont remember how to read the music. I can still play mary had a little lamb tho aha. But thats by sound. I still have my trombone

[smoothmove22]

2nd Trombone looks like Peyton Manning.

[srorasco1]

agh the way he laid his trombone down bothers me its going to screw up his slide

[whateverworks24]

Better sound quality on a tenor trombone comes with practice. Try opening up your airways more. Open your throat as much as possible and give it a lot of air. This will give a better sound as long as you keep a good embouchure. Your tuning will likely become a bit flat as well due to this.

[j47ppp]

i have the same problem as bbmb1090

[bbmb1090]

these guys are awesome! i play a tenor trombone but i'm having a little trouble getting a better quality sound. anyone have an idea to help me?

[stdimg11]

practice

[ZendeghiBahal]

how long u been playing? It takes a few years to get a decent tone :). Keep at it!!

[peleman24]

More Air :-). That's how a lot of brass problems are fixed whether it be trumpet or trombone. Also, do a lot of buzzing and if the buzzing is out of tune or doesn't sound good, then your tone won't either. Good luck

[revoltingmexican]

Buzzing is no good. You need to practice the instrument, and not the mouthpiece.

[peleman24]

And that's why people sound bad. Because all they do is play the instrument. Keep playing your instrument and I hope you get a gig. May God be with you

[revoltingmexican]

No, I really think that buzzing is useless. The resistance of the horn is gone when you buzz, the position of the mouthpiece isn't the same when you buzz. Buzzing is practicing something that isn't at all like playing your horn. I've already had tons of gigs, even played the Motorbike Odyssey at Dave Sporny's (trombone guru) retirement concert. I think I know what I'm talking about.

[peleman24]

Hahahahahaha! Buzzing is useless? Damn where did you study? Home taught? If you can't buzz it then it will not sound good on your horn lol. Seriously, ask any brass professor. Ask them what to do if you're having trouble playing a section. I garuntee they'll tell you to buzz the living shit out of it. Buzzing and playing are in no way to different things. One and the same.

[revoltingmexican]

so you're telling me that buzzing a mouthpiece has the same resistance as if it were in the horn? Yes or no. Oh, no? Ok, well, is the mouthpiece going to be in the exact place it would be if you had the trombone against the neck? oh, no? oh...gee I wonder how that is the same thing. Let's ask Christian Lindberg, just in case...7 Oct 2009: I know you don´t like buzzing, actually me either. but what about free buzzing? is that even worse? Debi-US Yes I think it is actually...CL

From his site

[revoltingmexican]

and I studied at UMASS. I've performed as a soloist with many orchestras, playing the David Concerto, Korsakov Concerto, Motorbike Concerto, Berio Sequenza V, Blue Bells of Scotland...What have you done? Who are you? I think you need to think for yourself and not let some professor tell you what to do. I'm just posting my opinion, and I have facts to back it up. Where are your facts. Your professor told you to buzz? I don't even see buzzing in Arbans. It's bullshit hype for the BERP company.

[HoodLoot]

you fucking kidding me, without being able to buz your just blowing air

[revoltingmexican]

HoodLoot. If you really look closely at the mouthpiece when you're playing the horn, and when you're buzzing, it won't be in the same place. When you buzz, the horn resistance is gone. You're practicing something that isn't the trombone. It's useless.

[peleman24]

I'm a bass trombone performance major at Ithaca College and I have performed many songs with similar difficulty including David Gillingham's "Sonata" and the John Williams Tuba Concerto. Nobody likes buzzing, but it is very essential. And I agree free buzzing is completely useless but mouthpiece buzzing is not. My facts are myself and all brass majors that study at this college and MU PA and SUNY Fred. And you should buzz in the same place as you do the horn or else you are buzzing wrong.

[revoltingmexican]

Already before I studied with Ralph I was absolutely sure that mouthpiece buzzing is not a good thing! Experiment: Try to make a good sound with a mouthpiece, and while playing put the mouthpiece in to the trombone...how does it sound? probably awful!! Then do the opposite: make a good sound on the trombone and while playing remove the mouthpiece from the trombone...how does it sound?? Just air coming out without a sound!! that is the way to play! Anything else is bad for your sound!!! CL

[tbone76749]

I'm finding it difficult to believe you even know how to play a trom! You're talking some absolute rubbish... Buzzing is exercising muscles for a performance exactly how lifting weights will help a boxer.. Of course its not EXACTLY the same, but its still incredibly beneficial in developing a number of aspects of playing!

[revoltingmexican]

Well, over 50,000 people have watched my videos here on youtube, and I play trombone in all of them. I agree that you must "excercise", but the proper excercise would definately be long tones with the mp in the instrument. I'm not talking rubbish. Take your mouthpiece and buzz a note on it, the best sound you can get. While buzzing, put it in your horn, and the sound that comes out will sound like crap. if you adjust while you put it in, that's what's wrong with your life-I mean buzzing. cont=>

[revoltingmexican]

now, leave the mp a little loose in the trombone and play with the best sound you can. While playing, take the mouthpiece out of the horn. All that should be coming out is air, with no buzzing sound. This is the proper technique. Practicing buzzing is practicing something that isn't playing the trombone, and therefore a waste of time. If you can play with the mp in the horn, why on earth would you take it out, or settle on buzzing. It's craziness! Only children's teachers use it to help with air

[lordofdastrings76]

have you ever had a lesson with any noteworthy teacher? because they would tell you the exact opposite.

[revoltingmexican]

yeah, this is Christian Lindberg's advice, as given in a masterclass and posted on his website.

[revoltingmexican]

also, how do you accomodate for the dual valves against your neck? As trombone players, our mouthpiece will never be straight on our chops because of our neck (unless you're a pencil-neck geek). You can't recreate this without your trombone. Buzzing is a "trick" that teachers use to get poor students to sound better.

[Lopyloopy666]

True, however, you are forgetting that buzzing is a way to make the omniture firmer, as well as playing high notes for long periods of time. And even if that is not the case, have tou not realised that the mouthpiece is round? No matter what angle it is in, it's the same. Consider this.

[revoltingmexican]

Consider that, especially on a horn with a valve, the side of the trombone will hit your neck. This inevitably causes some sort of shift to the left side of your face. Most people will try to keep the mouthpiece centered, and this means that the trombone moves out a little, and the right side of the mouthpiece will have more pressure on it than the left. This is why a lot of euph players have trouble adjusting to trombone, it's unbalanced. In any case, you can't recreate it without the horn.

[HoodLoot]

buzzing on just the mouthpeace got me started on making sounds, before that was just air

[Sienna3434]

wow...cool comment on my profile if you play trombone, casue i do too

[LuisFredTrombon]

Very nuanced and thought out playing. This was particuarly with the gentleman on the alto trombone. Bravo

[creamyfilling102]

how does the alto trombone work? same possitions and stuff? i thought they were tuned to E Flat like an alto sax, so it would require learning a whole new set of notes?

[matthewharris065]

Well it really is another instrument on its own. I bought one thinking allI was going tohave to do was learn different positions. WRONG! The slide positions are different, so not only do the positions play a 4th higher, they're in slightly diff places. The sound is very different and you have to learn a new clef, two if you don't know tenor clef. It's a completely different animal, but they should be more popular than they are!

[syphlar]

It depends what kind of an alto trombone you play. For instance I play the conn 36H witch is designed to be like a "small" tenortrombone. And to explain the tuning: it's tuned in E flat, which means that if you play a natural B flat scale (like you do on your tenortrombone) it sounds like a natural E flat scale.

The thing i find hard about playing is how to get the propper sound and get used to playing the alto-clef.

[theforce119]

Thanks for the information ^^!

[shabootyPSU]

do you feel like the bell messes with you? I played a 36 for about a year and thought I sounded terrible with horrible intonation. I switched to a Yamaha Custom (can't think of the model) and intonation and sound became a lot truer. The Yamaha is probably more like "a small tenor" than the the 36 but altos are in entirely their own world.

[syphlar]

I think that Yamaha in general are very easy to play, and i haven't tried that many altos so I can't tell if my 36 is harder/worse to play.

I think that Conn and Yamaha in general are so different that you can't really compare them. And the valve on the 36 kind of makes it a more "straight" horn than those without a valve. Just like tenors with valves and without valves.

[smoothben11]

I have nothing rong about Yamaha but its easy to play cuz its not like realy a professional tb... but that s like my point of vue and all that a know from all the years id been playing sorry for my english but 4 a biginer its a holly molly great tb

[JRchill360]

these guys are boss.

[MannDexx]

Oh my gosh I cracked up at that last note!! GREAT SPECTACULAR WONDERFUL!!!

[BlueProductionsINC]

thats just fantastic... kepp up the good work....

[pincus27]

Wow. Really great.

[billpisley]

These guys are definitely really awesome, if you enjoyed this I'd also check out that Pugh/Taylor project Trombone Quartet video. It may even be better.

[aelfricbetera]

the quick section is a great show of slide control-lots of practice and thorough knowledge of the instrument is obvious here..

[Euphernonium]

is that one on the far left playing an alto trombone?...cause it definitely looks like it...and how often do you find a piece that requires alto trombone?

[hoogestefan]

It is indeed a alto trombone.

There are actually quite a lot pieces which require alto trombone. They're only a little obscure or forgotten mostly...

[pokerbone]

beautiful playing

[jonesboy84]

If I knew how to play the trombone, I would definitely like to sound like these guys. I didn't hesitate to rate this five stars.

[iselldummysmacks]

a lot of the guys are using schilke mouthpieces. great mouthpieces - i use a schilke 58, massive tone

[TromboneQueen2012]

hey, what concert hall is that?

[woohoomusic]

iv never herd of a slide trumpet, is it distinguishable from a trombone??

[thomasswatland]

a slide trumpet is basically a soprano trombone. it's nicknamed slide trumpet because it's pitched in the same octave as a trumpet.

[TRFpudge13]

it also uses the same mouthpiece as a trumpet, so its the same bore and everything

[DancingSpacePotato]

That's an Eb Alto Trombone, a slide trumpet is pretty much a Soprano Trombone, but shouldn't be classed as a Trombone. The bore's smaller than a concert Trumpet and it uses a Trumpet mouthpiece. They are pitched in Bb, as a Trumpet is, and plays with the same timbre. It's a novelty instrument.

[claudiah369]

but it would still be considered a soprano (or alto) trombone because of it's distinguishable shape and

the type of sound it produces.

[JonasLuver44]

Its actually just like a mini trombone.( I no this stuff! I play TBONE! just not nearly as good as these guys!)

So no, I guess not....just smaller than normal!

[lordofthestrings93]

its an alto trombone.

[wet1wheat]

me to i play tenor and bass but i agree that the alto is forgotten.

[fagottist]

i may be a bassoonist but i have had the pleasure of playing the alto trombone. it's fantastic.

[rolllj]

it isn't a slide trumpet...it is a alto trombone!

[RipsnortChemist]

hay! the one on the far right is a slide trumpet!

[woohoomusic]

If u look at every trombone quartet on heer, they r all guys. As a woman hoo plays in a trombone quartet, i feel honoured. GO WOMEN!!

PS the music is gd lol

[theforce119]

Take a look at "Star & Stripes - Trombone" featuring a quartet with only women. But in general, you're right...

[xChainsawxGutsfuck]

does anyone know where i can find this music?

[onechiken]

if you find it plz tell me

[jakezablocki]

Sometimes the easiest way to get the piece is to transcribe to it...which I might do.

Try calling up your local music store and getting them to order it.

[rallentand]

contrabass to bass to tenor to alto to soprano to sopranino to picco

[matthewharris065]

I thought Sopranino was higher than piccolo? I know Thein makes a piccolo trombone, but they don't make a Sopranino, they're truly rare!

[minshallpumba]

Hi,

I am a Bass Trombonist at Chethams School of music.

Please could i have the names of the pieces you are playing on this video.

Thankyou

Simon

[3dude6]

is that "know you by heart"?

[theuglychuckling]

that is the second and third movements of the Bourgeois trombone quartet, as it says in the info box.

[Raiderfan2488]

anyone else think this was really quiet?

[sandnfire]

Its amazing!! I love it... I can listen it all day long... 24/7

[avacadodance]

who cares how the freak they stand or look, they could be out there in chicken suits and still whip some butt cheek

[Trombonemaster87]

I wonder how long these guys have been playing trombone lol....I hope to be that good.

[slideman1990]

Fantastic playing! Who cares if they tap the bell or they have "improper" posture, they sound wonderful.

Somebody fudges the last note and I love the alto trombonist's expression. It makes me feel good that these guys are human too, and they make mistakes!

[UrzaPlaneswalker]

The Bass Trombonist needs to work on his stance!!!

Trombones go from Soprano to Contrabass.

[matthewharris065]

Actually, the go from Piccolo/sopranino to contrabass. Thein makes one, so the order is:

Piccolo/sopranino-Soprano-Alto­-Tenor-Bass-Contrabass

[lutzphilipp]

He should work on what??? He is basstrombonist with the Berlin Philharmonic and he should work on his stance??? if that´s the only thing that is important... ;-) he could lie on the stage and still would be one of the most incredible trombone player i know!

[cityboy1910]

It all sounds the same anyway doesn't it? Regardless, in the film, there is (a) no soprano trombone, it is an alto in Eb. (b) the Bass trom is in the correct place.

[Trombonemaster87]

these guys are awesome lol.

[thomholio]

dang i wish my tone quality was that good :(

[darbyice]

Smaller than that one!!!!

That must be tiny... >.>

[hoogestefan]

search for slide trumpet ;)

[Coreagnis]

I love how he touches his bell at the beginning of the video. Naughty naughty.

[darbyice]

WOOOO...Why is that trombone so small!!! I've never seen one that small.

Man I wish I could play like that!!!

[sillyraejo]

wow! they're pretty good! I can't wait to get a camera so I can post a vid of me with my trombone. I'm going to do a solo at contest this year! Wish me luck!

[flashdestroyer]

damn...if I could play mine like that

[jazzygirl310]

HOLY CRAP!!! That is so good. Especially the alto trombone! Now I'm inspired to play that on mine :)

[gotroman]

Ok wow that was really, really, really good. Both of the pieces they played. They sound so good together I'm sure alot of hard work went into that. Great job Triton Trombone Quartet. Pluss the bass bone was dam good.

[firefly2009]

It is okay, i guess.

[johandemeij]

Just Okay!???

[firefly2009]

yes, just okay.

[narb182]

point out areas that need improvement please...

[dougrhess]

recording is too soft