Ask yourself how many christians are counted, from all christian councils and organizations. Wikipedia says they are 2 billions. Nevertheless Jesus wondered if the son of man would find Faith on earth at His return. Don't you feel that something's wrong with the chistian world ? The truth is that the true Faith is not in these churches. All the churches and councils have the same mark in their forehead (not "on") Forehead means doctrine.Check this vid: youtube.com/watch?v=VrjYhdcwD1k
"He is a Jew which is one INWARDLY; and circumcision is that of the heart..." Ro. 2:29
"There is neither Jew nor Greek ... for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus. And if you be Christ's then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Gal. 3:28-29
Those who are NOT "in Christ" are NOT HEIRS. PERIOD.
Faither determines who God's people are, not race!
Either one we are we're all supposed to obey GOD'S Ten Commandments. But too many adopted Christians pretend it's ok to ignore some of them they don't like.
4:07 he we go with the Pharasee attach (anti-Jewish agenda). Not knowing what Y'shua was talking about but want to speak anyway. Are you aware that there is two laws in Judaism? The written and the Oral and Y'shua speaks to the oral that contradicts the written (the added traditions). You should know this because your church does the same thing. It throw away the teachings of Moses which Y'shua said not to do. John 5:45-47. But you prefer the traditions rather than the written Torah. With love.
@paulgem123 I'd suggest that our church doesn't follow the traditions of men. We follow the actual Sabbath (Saturday), and all the other laws, other than the feasts which pointed towards Christ. (i.e. no point in sacrificing a sheep on the passover now, as the perfect sacrifice has been completed.)
2:43 all those that have the faith of Abraham (he said) .. He forgot to mention to walk as Abraham walked..Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws....Wait a minute this was before the giving of the Ten Commandments. How did he know to keep what sounds like Torah?
@paulgem123 the 10 commandments are just like gravity. Even before the law of gravity was written down and explained, it was still in action. Besides the Sabbath and all the laws are mentioned well before Sinai in the bible.
@paulgem123 You would have to show me where the bible says the gates are the 12 tribes of Israel. I have seen no reference that implies that. Rev 21 is talking of the literal placing of the new Jerusalem once the earth has been made new.
@jumanous Rev 21:12 and it ha a wall great and lofty, which had twelve gates, and the names inscribed on them, which are the names of the twelves tribes of the children of Israel/
@paulgem123 Each member of the church will be associated with a different tribe due to their personality. If they are of the tribe of Dan they are out of luck though :)
@jumanous So like one for the Lutherans, and one for the JW's, Mormans, Catholics , SDA's, and so on. So why would a believer just choose to do like Abraham and follow Torah to be grafted into the olive tree. Rather than taking away some of it in favor of their church traditions which say that this part or that part is done away. Did Yeshua keep all the law or just the Ten Commandments?
@paulgem123 All the law is encapsulated in the 10 commandments. You can't keep the 10 commandments and not follow the rest of the law... Other than the sacrificial system.
@jumanous I would disagree. The principles of Torah have to be studied out and applied to how to live as a community. I have met many SDA's who do not understand this.
"Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." Matthew 22: 36-40
@paulgem123 No where in the Bible do i see anything about which gate the church is going in. When u die in Christ now, u go to be with the Lord. Your body goes to the dust until the rapture of the church which is soon. Then u get a new body for ever. It don't state which gate, because all gates lead inside to the city of God.
@rossdaboss1959 What will you do when there is no pre-trib rapture? Will you reconsider your theology or will you fall away all together. Israel never got raptured not to say that I don't believe in a rapture I just believe we are going to go through a tribulation time. I wonder how people will handle it will they continue to trust their church or will they go back to the Bible and re-read it again.
The true Israelites are those who fulfilled Deuteronomy the 28th chapter. Forced to come on slave ships, chains around their necks and legs, raped, etc. As the sand of the sea. Spiritual Israel is the church as the stars of heaven. Israel is God's chosen people, and the church is his son Jesus chosen people. We are the bride of Christ. God has not cast away his people who he foreknew. Paul said to the gentiles that they shouldn't boast about being the branch. Romans 11:17-24 READ VERY CAREFULL
@rossdaboss1959 Hey Brother, Are you suggesting that this is a race thing? What do you mean fulfilled Deut 28 (there are blessings and curses in that chapter)? We need to un-color the Israelites. Israel is a condition of choice and has nothing to do with race and has everything to do with walking in Torah obedience as Y'shua the Messiah did.
The church is not the nation of Israel. The both are on the earth today. The church is God's spiritual people, but the Hebrew Israelites is still God's natural people. Romans 9,10,11th chapter. U are right, that we are spiritually of the seed of Abraham. When Jesus comes back at the end, it will be to defend Israel, not the church. The church will be coming back with him. Jude 14. Zechariah 10:6. Gentiles are only a branch, but not the main root. Israel is still the main root of the tree.
Joh 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
@jumanous If u believe that, then u have to take out all the scriptures that tell of israel being a nation again. Romans 9,10,11th chapters. All the old testament ones, Isaiah 60,61th chapters. U have to read the whole bible on the subject of israel and the church to see where they still with God. U can't just take a few scriptures and say God is done with Israel. I don't have to argue about it, because there's 144,000 of the tribe of israel that's going to be sealed soon. The church is going.
Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: ...for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Luk 3:9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
after the stoning of Steven the Jewish nation ceased to be of the promise.
@jumanous U not reading with understanding. Read romans 9, 10 ,11th chapter and replace Israel with the church, and see if it makes sense. Israel and the church are two different people. The church is spiritual as the stars of heaven and Israel is natural as the sand of the sea. There's still one more week or 7 years that israel has to fulfill. The church and Israel is on the earth today, can't u see that? The church is leaving soon and Israel will finish their last week soon. U will see!
@jumanous~When we go down under the water, symbolically we are buried with Christ, and as we come up, we become new in Christ, and also that is another way to honor Christ' resurrection.
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Ask yourself how many christians are counted, from all christian councils and organizations. Wikipedia says they are 2 billions. Nevertheless Jesus wondered if the son of man would find Faith on earth at His return. Don't you feel that something's wrong with the chistian world ? The truth is that the true Faith is not in these churches. All the churches and councils have the same mark in their forehead (not "on") Forehead means doctrine.Check this vid: youtube.com/watch?v=VrjYhdcwD1k
michaeldayofthelord 1 month ago
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"He is a Jew which is one INWARDLY; and circumcision is that of the heart..." Ro. 2:29
"There is neither Jew nor Greek ... for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus. And if you be Christ's then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Gal. 3:28-29
Those who are NOT "in Christ" are NOT HEIRS. PERIOD.
Faither determines who God's people are, not race!
woods8870 5 months ago
Either one we are we're all supposed to obey GOD'S Ten Commandments. But too many adopted Christians pretend it's ok to ignore some of them they don't like.
Licmycat 9 months ago
4:07 he we go with the Pharasee attach (anti-Jewish agenda). Not knowing what Y'shua was talking about but want to speak anyway. Are you aware that there is two laws in Judaism? The written and the Oral and Y'shua speaks to the oral that contradicts the written (the added traditions). You should know this because your church does the same thing. It throw away the teachings of Moses which Y'shua said not to do. John 5:45-47. But you prefer the traditions rather than the written Torah. With love.
paulgem123 1 year ago
@paulgem123 I'd suggest that our church doesn't follow the traditions of men. We follow the actual Sabbath (Saturday), and all the other laws, other than the feasts which pointed towards Christ. (i.e. no point in sacrificing a sheep on the passover now, as the perfect sacrifice has been completed.)
jumanous 1 year ago 3
2:43 all those that have the faith of Abraham (he said) .. He forgot to mention to walk as Abraham walked..Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws....Wait a minute this was before the giving of the Ten Commandments. How did he know to keep what sounds like Torah?
paulgem123 1 year ago
@paulgem123 the 10 commandments are just like gravity. Even before the law of gravity was written down and explained, it was still in action. Besides the Sabbath and all the laws are mentioned well before Sinai in the bible.
jumanous 1 year ago 3
Can you please tell me what gate will the church enter through in New Jerusalem because all the gates are the the twelve tribes of Israel. In Rev 21
paulgem123 1 year ago
@paulgem123 You would have to show me where the bible says the gates are the 12 tribes of Israel. I have seen no reference that implies that. Rev 21 is talking of the literal placing of the new Jerusalem once the earth has been made new.
jumanous 1 year ago 2
@jumanous Rev 21:12 and it ha a wall great and lofty, which had twelve gates, and the names inscribed on them, which are the names of the twelves tribes of the children of Israel/
paulgem123 1 year ago
@paulgem123 Each member of the church will be associated with a different tribe due to their personality. If they are of the tribe of Dan they are out of luck though :)
jumanous 1 year ago 2
@jumanous Where do u get this stuff from?
rossdaboss1959 1 year ago
@rossdaboss1959 the bible and the spirit of prophecy.
jumanous 1 year ago
@jumanous So like one for the Lutherans, and one for the JW's, Mormans, Catholics , SDA's, and so on. So why would a believer just choose to do like Abraham and follow Torah to be grafted into the olive tree. Rather than taking away some of it in favor of their church traditions which say that this part or that part is done away. Did Yeshua keep all the law or just the Ten Commandments?
paulgem123 1 year ago
@paulgem123 All the law is encapsulated in the 10 commandments. You can't keep the 10 commandments and not follow the rest of the law... Other than the sacrificial system.
jumanous 1 year ago 3
@jumanous I would disagree. The principles of Torah have to be studied out and applied to how to live as a community. I have met many SDA's who do not understand this.
paulgem123 1 year ago
@paulgem123 that's because the SDA church in general is not SDA anymore. They don't follow their prophet.
jumanous 1 year ago
@jumanous Great maybe they will come back to Torah in Y'shua. As I sent you that video "bethshalomsda"
paulgem123 1 year ago
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@jumanous
"Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." Matthew 22: 36-40
BloodTar 7 months ago
@paulgem123 No where in the Bible do i see anything about which gate the church is going in. When u die in Christ now, u go to be with the Lord. Your body goes to the dust until the rapture of the church which is soon. Then u get a new body for ever. It don't state which gate, because all gates lead inside to the city of God.
rossdaboss1959 1 year ago
@rossdaboss1959 What will you do when there is no pre-trib rapture? Will you reconsider your theology or will you fall away all together. Israel never got raptured not to say that I don't believe in a rapture I just believe we are going to go through a tribulation time. I wonder how people will handle it will they continue to trust their church or will they go back to the Bible and re-read it again.
paulgem123 1 year ago
The true Israelites are those who fulfilled Deuteronomy the 28th chapter. Forced to come on slave ships, chains around their necks and legs, raped, etc. As the sand of the sea. Spiritual Israel is the church as the stars of heaven. Israel is God's chosen people, and the church is his son Jesus chosen people. We are the bride of Christ. God has not cast away his people who he foreknew. Paul said to the gentiles that they shouldn't boast about being the branch. Romans 11:17-24 READ VERY CAREFULL
rossdaboss1959 1 year ago
@rossdaboss1959 Hey Brother, Are you suggesting that this is a race thing? What do you mean fulfilled Deut 28 (there are blessings and curses in that chapter)? We need to un-color the Israelites. Israel is a condition of choice and has nothing to do with race and has everything to do with walking in Torah obedience as Y'shua the Messiah did.
paulgem123 1 year ago
The church is not the nation of Israel. The both are on the earth today. The church is God's spiritual people, but the Hebrew Israelites is still God's natural people. Romans 9,10,11th chapter. U are right, that we are spiritually of the seed of Abraham. When Jesus comes back at the end, it will be to defend Israel, not the church. The church will be coming back with him. Jude 14. Zechariah 10:6. Gentiles are only a branch, but not the main root. Israel is still the main root of the tree.
rossdaboss1959 1 year ago 2
@rossdaboss1959 the nation of Israel is irrelevant to God.
Joh 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
jumanous 1 year ago 2
@jumanous If u believe that, then u have to take out all the scriptures that tell of israel being a nation again. Romans 9,10,11th chapters. All the old testament ones, Isaiah 60,61th chapters. U have to read the whole bible on the subject of israel and the church to see where they still with God. U can't just take a few scriptures and say God is done with Israel. I don't have to argue about it, because there's 144,000 of the tribe of israel that's going to be sealed soon. The church is going.
rossdaboss1959 1 year ago
@rossdaboss1959
Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: ...for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Luk 3:9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
after the stoning of Steven the Jewish nation ceased to be of the promise.
jumanous 1 year ago 2
@jumanous U not reading with understanding. Read romans 9, 10 ,11th chapter and replace Israel with the church, and see if it makes sense. Israel and the church are two different people. The church is spiritual as the stars of heaven and Israel is natural as the sand of the sea. There's still one more week or 7 years that israel has to fulfill. The church and Israel is on the earth today, can't u see that? The church is leaving soon and Israel will finish their last week soon. U will see!
rossdaboss1959 1 year ago
@rossdaboss1959 it is important to note, they can covert like anyone else, and be saved.
jumanous 1 year ago
So does that mean we all should be baptized because then u are born again right?
RepentNowInJesusName 1 year ago
@RepentNowInJesusName Being baptised is a symbol of being born again, yes. Acts is a good book to read on that.
jumanous 1 year ago 8
@jumanous~When we go down under the water, symbolically we are buried with Christ, and as we come up, we become new in Christ, and also that is another way to honor Christ' resurrection.
PrayerisLoveinaction 1 year ago 6
@PrayerisLoveinaction yep :)
jumanous 1 year ago 6