Metal disc tweeter, cardboard box speaker, Realistic SA-10 amp

[ScreamMode1337]

A tweeter will make sounds that you wouldn't notice by just looking at the speakers. Tweeters are a way to compliment a subwoofer mainly, when a beat is too low and there are highs within it those tweeters are what play that high, however in this video it's probably played outside it's original load correct?

[Vintagesoundz14]

it sounds loud on the video: "Realistic SA-10 amp + Denon TU-680NAB tuner + Dynaco 208 speakers" well i still would like to get myself one of these.

[Vintagesoundz14]

Does it go loud this amp, not loud and lots of bass and treble, not high quality, but even high volume would be fine.

[vwestlife]

@Vintagesoundz14 No.

[Vintagesoundz14]

what is the model of this amp i could do with one of these for the garage i dont want a high end expensive amplifier in the garage only to get dusty and used occasionally one of these would fit nicely on the shelf.

[vwestlife]

@Vintagesoundz14 The model is written in the video title!

[Vipguard1]

You got a like because of your cat

[Scioneer]

The Wonderswan series of handhelds used these disc speakers and actually were able to get some reasonable sound from them

[pegasomarcelo]

WATCH THIS:  youtube.com/watch?v=YHfoON7ukS­c

[RediffusionMusic]

@mason2boymobile Horst Jankowski- A walk in the black forest

[emersiveav]

thats all 80's radio shack junk!

[xxmexxmidnaxx123]

i think there a saramic disk or piezo twetter and they only make the highest notes also ony realy work properly wen pressed on by somthing from behind

[chichoucha621]

Meow

[setinfuture]

lol i have a new speaker that has that type of metal disc tweeter

[RWL2011]

could i see both 12" 2-way cardboard speakers and with more power as well please

[vwestlife]

@mason2boymobile Look through the comments, I have already answered that question twice before.

[TheHackWhite]

hey,

i was wondering if you would like a realistic speaker swich for the maching amplifier you have

it matches perfectley by the looks and colour just comment back

[sergei790]

красава такими же шурупами как и я прикручивал

[adamax]

it's a ceramic transducer 

[adamax]

it's a ceramic transducer - not a tweeter

[Tpr0x]

its america... people do dumb shit

[transdrole]

One thing to consider: The disc tweeters may be blown.  Without caps they would see the bass and there's no way they could handle that.

[vwestlife]

@transdrole No, they're just a gimmick, designed to fit the technical description of a "tweeter" without actually doing anything useful.

[NJRoadfan]

@transdrole The lack of a capacitor (high pass filter) is a dead giveaway that its not really a tweeter.

[takeanotefromme]

@transdrole I have a realistic sa-10 amp and i want to use it to aplify sound for two bose 2.2 8ohms indenpent speakers. Do you think this would be advisable? Could you please tell me if there are adapters to turn speaker wire compents into rca? Thanks.... I realize this is not really an Ask for help video. I really enjoyed your video.

[ExpertOfSound]

I don't understand why they would even put any time or effort into making it actually produce such little sound. Why not make it look like a tweeter and just use the main?

[bigdima3]

@ExpertOfSound Lol, we had this chinses HiFI system which had a sliver cap that meant to look like a tweeter, and it did, but it wasnt even a speaker, just a piece of shiny plastic held with a sellotape

[isethaitchison]

Is that a 12" driver?

[vwestlife]

@isethaitchison As I wrote in the video description, yes, it is a 12 inch woofer.

[isethaitchison]

@vwestlife thats cool.

[RWL2011]

@isethaitchison not so cool that you failed to read all the description

[pegasomarcelo]

See this ===> youtube.com/watch?v=YHfoON7ukS­c

[smashingstuff09]

What would happen if you tryed to blow it?

[vwestlife]

@smashingstuff09 Blow what? The Soundesign speaker is long dead and gone. I accidentally dropped it and the cabinet split open, and then I blew it in a video. The organ speaker in the cardboard box is still safe and sound, and it's far too good to destroy.

[latribe]

Cardboard box! What a good idea. Put some acoustic wadding in there too and it's a brilliant way of gently absorbing the back wave.

[CindyBradyTooh]

The 4" speaker sounded pretty good to me...

~Cindy!  :)

..

[kirtley2010]

with those speakers in a cardboard box how much would they be for a pair im making somehing and in need of a good pair of speakers

[vwestlife]

@MultiAdamcampbell What watt are what? The Soundesign speaker? The Realistic amplifier? The Lowrey organ speaker?

[TheWarped45]

that is a nice vintage loudspeaker. 20 watts is all you need to drive it. I always liked the sound of tubes in my amp. I was going to build a stereo amplifier based on two 6av5 and two 12ax7s maybe get a good 8 or 10 watts.

[taoybb]

It tweeter is Piezo tweeter. Piezo made sound very hard

[badboydavid10]

so your rly gay listen i hope these fags dont bring you down cause their gay and wont admit it

[10cmsub]

they have a highe impedance so they need a transformer to be loud

[DrEMplushrest]

Yeah, that sounds about right on the tweeters. They just added those piezo discs, like you'd find in a cheap handheld game, so that they could legitimately advertise the speaker as having a seperate tweeter! The 12" organ woofer should sound best in a cabinet without a back, just like your carboard box. It appears to have a small voice coil so probably won't be effective in a sealed box, high Qts, just like most instrument speakers.

[ExtraTerrestrials]

have EXACTLY same speakers :D

[Zylstra555]

Thank goodness! I am not the only person who uses Hammond Organ music (with other accompanying bits) for test songs. I use "Tears of a Clown" - Chosen Few (not Smokey Robinson, completely different) for testing PA Systems.

[tunecee]

haha you speak out of my mind ! thats exactly what i noticed 1 day ago when i was pulling them out of a Aiwa Speaker from the 90's

[lamog69]

utot mo ang panget ng video mo

[uglymanity]

Uhm dude look up some high pitched sounds. As a result you get more out of the tweeters. Its what they're for. "Tweeting" high noises that regular speakers cant get high enough to for that ring.

[bluntza]

older computers had them speakers 2...and phones still got em

[RUCK973]

It cant be useless...Wouldn't that little metal speaker change the vibration and make a different wavelength which would utimatly change the sound. I dont know Im not no expert on the subjext but I know music. Maybe with a different songs it's more noticable.

[SuperSmasher97]

the organ woofer has good sound,even on the tiny (but good sounding) sa-10 2.5w amp!

[racistgayclown]

yea remember those, they were the same type as used in alarm watches, very small output and a waste of time, unless used in a very high pitched alarm watch

[Jimmyess333]

BTW, I thought I was the only one that did these kind of experiments. Now I don't feel so dorky.

[Jimmyess333]

I hated those cheap 2 cent tweeters too.

They worked well enough that they could legally claim it was a tweeter but the other speaker was full range and all you heard. They also used to put a 4 inch speaker behind a hole that appeared to be 6 inch. So much fake stuff back then, cheaper stereos have come a long way.

[acuraRule12355]

yeah i know how you feel i got some tower it said on the back 12" woofer 1" dome Tweeter But the Midrange was 5.25 I measured it.. it was 4" so i don't know why a high end brand like KLH Would Lie to me

[reapstress]

Thats not a cardboard box. It is a single wall corrugated box. Nice sound from it though.

[MSNIMSM]

I have a couple organ woofers. One is a ful-range and the other is a MI speaker.

[MAS68saxophone]

put a hacked car alarm in it. No what, it's to much tweeter.

LOL XD

[CoolDudeClem]

I've seen some peizo tweeters that have a built in step-up transformer in them and they seem to work pretty well.

[autostuniados]

HEY! What music is that?

[vwestlife]

As mentioned in previous comments, it is "A Walk in the Black Forest" by Horst Jankowski.

[autostuniados]

sory, i feel like an idiot. Thanks

[md81593]

Yep anyone could bust a move to those beats.

[darbz808]

less acent of ray romano

[wooferfreak]

thats a really nice realistic

[albino508]

wtf is with the music it sounds like alivater music

[danrulz98]

The "speakers" like that are actually usually used in smoke alarms. The sound they usually produced is usually quite shrill.

Now, if you look into stadium horn type speakers, you would find that the speaker its self is very small. You would also notice they sound like crap.

[ThisIs2009]

wrong, and wrong.

[danrulz98]

Open a smoke alarm, stick your head into a stadium horn speaker, and try playing your favorite music through it

[ThisIs2009]

smoke alarm - piezo speaker.

stadium horn - compression driver.

in this video - a metal disc.

BIG DIFFERENCE

[maynardcat]

The false tweeter is like a Vintage RCA I have posted that has an external output and switch labeled stereo. It is not stereo at all, and in fact the cartridge and amp is mono. It is just a mono output. I wonder how RCA got away with that. The organ speaker in the box does sound good. All through this video I couldn't think of the name of the song your playing, and finally it came to me A walk in the black forest by Horst Jankowski, which I have somewhere.

[weasel2htm]

That big organ speaker sounds nice, even thorough youtube and through my system.

[Capta1nHowdy]

i <3 audio

[falkon212]

Wow that's a pretty sly move by the manufacturers back then. I'm guessing that many people had no clue about their 'tweeters' despite the fact that it would be blatently obvious to a trained ear.

[pcwalker]

You put speakers in a cardboard box, too! NO WAY! :)

[951258tike22]

DUDE I HAVE A PAIR OF THOSE SPEAKERS! i use them on high pass in my system =))

[drum00]

true tweeter are 4 inchs to 5

[SuperSmasher97]

true tweeter are 2"->5".

everything smaller sucks actually.

[MSNIMSM]

Really? I got some small tweeter that sound exelent. They are half and inch. They sound loud and clear.

[SuperSmasher97]

nice,look at my cardboard speaker. it sounds so great.

[reap62]

the little tweeters can do a full range of sound but are designed for noise over like 1000hz or w/e depending on wether or not you have a mid range speaker and at extremely high frequencies they can be heard over the main subwoofer

[AG3304]

lf the edge is cracked,paint it with a latex glue like copydex.This can be done right round the cone,and will fix it.

[Dylan169113]

you should do a review of your realistic amp i would like to get one to use for a computer sound system

[Jamiep84]

I've been using a little Realistic SA-150 amp and 2 "Realistic Minimus 21" speakers with my main computer since they were bought new in 1990.

The amp is powered up for about 8 hours per day, has never needed repair or maintenance, and it's survived thru 5 different computer systems. :)

[Dylan169113]

wow thats cool i looked on ebay and didnt see many so that must mean people dont want to part with them because being in production that long there has to be a lot of them

[s1oz]

those are supposed to be connected through a cross-over which would split the audio according to frequencies.

That means (eg in lets say 2 way crossover with 16k as a split point ) sound above 16k goes only to the tweeter and the rest only goes to the mid/low spoeaker.

[SuperSmasher97]

thats the SAME speaker used in some mcdonalds

toys and in my "3-way" (actually 2-WAy) soundwave speakers lol

[SuperSmasher97]

ROFL that song is funny,what its name?

[CharlestonChew03]

Lol, funny stuff about that tweeter! I have never seen one of those. I have a pair of speakers between the 40's and 60's though and they are really good. They are real speakers though lol. Example, they have 12'' woofers. Your amp is terrible, 1.2 watts?? You have to be mistaken.. 1.2 watts I am guessing might be enough for maybe a pair of headphones lol.

[RWL2011]

you obviously didnt notice the 120w RMS (total) technics reciever under the 12" 2-way cardboard speaker

[envisionelec]

Right - and they're still used today in most 2 and 3 way car speakers. Utterly useless.

[dcrvnts]

your song is gay

[vwestlife]

And so am I, so it's a good match! :-P

[10cmsub]

@vwestlife lol

[LolzMan7756]

@vwestlife are u really gay? gays dont works with speakers, that man stuff

[vwestlife]

@LolzMan7756 Yes, I am, and plenty of us enjoy working with "man stuff."

[LiveLifematt]

@vwestlife Sweet dude

[weinerschnitzelboy]

@LolzMan7756 Speakers aren't man stuff. Construction work is man stuff.

[Soulsgod]

retard doesn't know real jazz lol!

[SuperSmasher97]

jazz fucking sux this isnt jazz its funny music

[SuperSmasher97]

but its funny

[Murrtallica]

nice box! lol

[M50SNIPER]

planars silly

[padly88]

why is there this metal disk if main speaker is mutch louder??

anyway 5th starts

[SuperSmasher97]

cause the brand wanna say its a two or three way speaeker

[praxedisvoodoo]

en verdad no tienes nada que hacer

que perdida de tiempo

[rileyswanson]

'Super' Tweeter, sure......

[niall123456123456]

you need to tweeck the treble

[isethaitchison]

if u seen my videos i have a sony with a metal piece of crap....usless lol

[Organgrinder010]

Nice! Was that Klaus Wunderlich playing?

[vwestlife]

It is "A Walk in the Black Forest" by Horst Jankowski.

[chrisw71]

Good sound from the organ speaker. What music were you using to test?

[Amishman35]

I second that...I didn't know that they had that kind of good quality in 1962, at least speaker-wise.

[RWL2011]

@Amishman35 only 6 years until the first subwoofer was launched in 1968, with an 18" driver and a servo amp! you'd be surprised how long certain technology has been around for, even if it has improved a bit over the years

[CassetteMaster]

Oh yeah. I've seen those tweeters before, and they sure are quiet. They'd be better off in an alarm or something that best uses a piezo speaker. Also, I have that same model SA-10 Realistic amp, but mine's tone control is broken off. (you have to use you finger tips or pliers to turn the remaining part of the potentiometer shaft). 1970s to 1994? WOW! That sold for a LONG time! I got mine in 2004, and remember using it while watching Futurama from a computer. It had a nice big sound.

[vwestlife]

The SA-10's tone control is really just a treble reducer. It reduces the treble response unless you keep it at the maximum position, which gives flat treble response. The SA-10 also has a built-in loudness curve which provides up to a 12 dB bass boost at low volumes. That's what gives it the full-bodied sound.

[analogrules1986]

A diaphragm or a plastic cup will amplifie those piezo tweeter like the one you install in the cardboard speaker.

[jefferyb304]

that organ speaker sounds great!

[raymondleeleggs]

those little super tweeters are very innefficent