My question to you is "How much HHO gas does it take to run an 350cu.in. small block chevy ?" the answer in either liter per second,or how much water need to be split in how much time BECAUSE without that knowledge the rest is a mood point.
I couldn't care less about being able to run a car on HHO only, because I don't have the time or financial resources to attempt something like that.
I am more interested in using HHO for welding, cooking, heating etc. Focusing on what it can do instead of what it can't do yet, is a better use of time.
I don't think it matters how I cut the gaskets, because with 2" washers I will never have much surface area. But that is why I plan to add more washers to increase the total reactive surface area.
This isn't a serious experiment. I'm just learning as I go.
Im working on almost the same exact cell. Only I am hoping I can make do with nitrile O rings, more surface area. I also am soldering solid inxulated wire to the outside edge of each plate. The notches and connectors may be a problem with leaks. Like you every plate is wired with the same length wire to make resistance to each plate the same. Been unable to work on t for 2 months but now renfest is over and lifereturns to normal will be back to it again. Lokng forward to seeing your results.
Yeah, I was thinking about the leak issue. I am going to only notch each washer enough for the connectors to make contact. This way I can still have a good seal on each gasket.
I had thought about soldering the vinyl coated galvanized steel cable to each washer, and I may still go that direction, because it will be cheaper to do and like you said, it will prevent the possibility of leaks.
Good idea about keeping the cables the same length. I will have to do that.
It comes in rolls , think about the stuff behind say a bar or like the wall behind a grill in a restaurant , or stainless flashing for roofing. It looks just like the coil stock that lowes has but my lowes only has aluminum or copper .
Check out local place's that carry roofing products, they should be able to hook you up with what ever gauge you want. Roofing supply in the tele book.
About getting it flat , I not sure how you stand on the plates be 100% perfectly flate, but in a kitchen they can get it flat enought so you dont see lines, the roll is not too bad but a like 90 bend will be super hard to get it back to perfect cause the metal will strech just a tiny bit, but off a roll each plate will have just a tiny bit of roll to it.
And dont forget I have not idea about the thickness and how many hours at what watt it can take, but its so easy to work its great for test.
Yeah man, a few things that matter the mmw for the cost of the build.
I like the cup idea, seams easy and the parts are at any store, you never know how good it will work untill you build it then spend more time refining it.
Your right it is about the challenge, thats the fun part, only thing better than building something is making it work even better.
The problem with the kitchen stainless is that it is all 430 grade. It will degrade quickly under electrolosis. It has higher iron content and is magnetic. I made my first cell almost 2 years ago with this stuff. It only lasted 3 weeks.
Why? my water turns green?
keyko69 11 months ago
@keyko69
Only use stainless steel washers. If you use zinc plated washers the water will turn dark green.
If you are using baking soda as an electrolyte, it will also effect the color of the water.
HHO4ALL 11 months ago
My question to you is "How much HHO gas does it take to run an 350cu.in. small block chevy ?" the answer in either liter per second,or how much water need to be split in how much time BECAUSE without that knowledge the rest is a mood point.
1100tech 1 year ago
@1100tech
I couldn't care less about being able to run a car on HHO only, because I don't have the time or financial resources to attempt something like that.
I am more interested in using HHO for welding, cooking, heating etc. Focusing on what it can do instead of what it can't do yet, is a better use of time.
HHO4ALL 1 year ago
@HHO4ALL That's fine because i think that's important too! We all need to work on this together good hunting!
1100tech 1 year ago
Keep this in mind.. Max. surface area in the smallest possible enclosure, weakest eletrolyte,lowest possible DC voltage. Keep having fun!
hhoforvolts 3 years ago
Thank you, I will keep this in mind.
HHO4ALL 3 years ago
With all those gaskets, there very little ss surface to generate gas. Again number 1 is surface area.
hhoforvolts 3 years ago
That is true, but that is why I am experimenting.
I don't think it matters how I cut the gaskets, because with 2" washers I will never have much surface area. But that is why I plan to add more washers to increase the total reactive surface area.
This isn't a serious experiment. I'm just learning as I go.
HHO4ALL 3 years ago
I'm doing my experiments on the smaller washers to see what I can come up with, and then I will purchase larger washers for my next design.
I'm doing these videos, so I can get comments from others who may be more experienced at building HHO fuel cells.
I don't have an ego, so I'm always willing to listen to any helpful comments.
HHO4ALL 3 years ago
Im working on almost the same exact cell. Only I am hoping I can make do with nitrile O rings, more surface area. I also am soldering solid inxulated wire to the outside edge of each plate. The notches and connectors may be a problem with leaks. Like you every plate is wired with the same length wire to make resistance to each plate the same. Been unable to work on t for 2 months but now renfest is over and lifereturns to normal will be back to it again. Lokng forward to seeing your results.
BigFireDave 3 years ago
Yeah, I was thinking about the leak issue. I am going to only notch each washer enough for the connectors to make contact. This way I can still have a good seal on each gasket.
I had thought about soldering the vinyl coated galvanized steel cable to each washer, and I may still go that direction, because it will be cheaper to do and like you said, it will prevent the possibility of leaks.
Good idea about keeping the cables the same length. I will have to do that.
Thanks
HHO4ALL 3 years ago
I like your idea but is this just a variation of a dry cell with a single center hole and laying it on its side.
tjgame2 3 years ago
Yes, this is the same basic idea, but much smaller and less expensive.
I could take 100 of these washers and make a decent Dry Cell out of them for a fraction of the cost.
I'm also thinking that each of the washers are thicker than the plates in most dry cells, so they should hold up a lot longer.
HHO4ALL 3 years ago
I'm using SS flashing very cheap and you cut it with tin snips.
tjgame2 3 years ago
Nice. I'll have to check that out.
HHO4ALL 3 years ago
I'm not sure how long it will last , but man you can sling out plates when its easy to cut them.
tjgame2 3 years ago
Can you get solid squares of SS Flashing?
I looked around online this morning, but only found vented pieces.
HHO4ALL 3 years ago
It comes in rolls , think about the stuff behind say a bar or like the wall behind a grill in a restaurant , or stainless flashing for roofing. It looks just like the coil stock that lowes has but my lowes only has aluminum or copper .
Check out local place's that carry roofing products, they should be able to hook you up with what ever gauge you want. Roofing supply in the tele book.
tjgame2 3 years ago
I just looked up stainless roll and found tons of resources for kitchen backsplashes.
But if it comes on rolls, Is it difficult to straighten out?
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
HHO4ALL 3 years ago
About getting it flat , I not sure how you stand on the plates be 100% perfectly flate, but in a kitchen they can get it flat enought so you dont see lines, the roll is not too bad but a like 90 bend will be super hard to get it back to perfect cause the metal will strech just a tiny bit, but off a roll each plate will have just a tiny bit of roll to it.
And dont forget I have not idea about the thickness and how many hours at what watt it can take, but its so easy to work its great for test.
tjgame2 3 years ago
There are a ton of variables to take into account, but that is where the challenge comes from. If it was easy... everyone would be doing it.
I understand what you are saying about the rolls. Plus you could get way more stainless for your money than if you buy plates.
I keep coming up with designs for the stainless cups, because they are cheap, easy to work with and they produce a ton of gas.
If flashing works as well as the cups, then I'm all for it.
HHO4ALL 3 years ago
Yeah man, a few things that matter the mmw for the cost of the build.
I like the cup idea, seams easy and the parts are at any store, you never know how good it will work untill you build it then spend more time refining it.
Your right it is about the challenge, thats the fun part, only thing better than building something is making it work even better.
tjgame2 3 years ago
The problem with the kitchen stainless is that it is all 430 grade. It will degrade quickly under electrolosis. It has higher iron content and is magnetic. I made my first cell almost 2 years ago with this stuff. It only lasted 3 weeks.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
Sorry I didn't notice the way you were constructing the ends.
My apologies.
cheers.
ZEROPOINT132 3 years ago
no worries. I was really tired when I put this video together, so I might have accidentally left something out.
HHO4ALL 3 years ago
Hi Good idea with the connections.
How is the gas going to get out from inside the washers.
cheers.
ZEROPOINT132 3 years ago