John Lash - The Gnostics (META - HISTORY series)

[MisterBaAcKiTcH]

Great! Great! Great! Great!

Worth repeated listening, no doubt! Educational, provocative, erudite, wonderful.

Hypathia vivat!

Sophia ametur!

[ShatteredButterfly8]

"The "born in sin" belief is so delusional, that it destroys the basic innocence of human beings. That is where the real devastation occurs, it destroys our basic innocence that connects us to the natural world, and connects us to our own divine roots."

Thank you John Lash.

[latinlover973]

Wow a woman woke me up a few in times in my lifetime. I thought it was my mother, but I've had numerous dreams about women (not just sexually), but it felt like the women were trying to tell me something. Very interesting topic. I'm interested in gnostic christianity.

[MythicSun]

The gnostics were the first communists of the world,well done.

[radioreview]

3 people just don't get it.

[MrLeagueOJustice]

@radioreview lol. No doubt

[gwynneveireland]

thanks for uploading this.

[wichywoo]

I put no stock in religion. By the word religion, I've seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called "The Word of God!" I've seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action - and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves. And goodness, what God desires, is in the mind(conscience) and in the heart. And by what you decide to do everyday, you will be a good man - or not."

[EnglandForever78]

I wonder if Sophia is what the hermetic Qabalists would call Ain Soph or Ein Soph?

[eb20675]

@EnglandForever78 Sophia = Aphrodite = Isis

[EnglandForever78]

The Gnostics felt that this metaphysical reality and matter is a flawed creation created by a lesser god known as the demiurge. They believed that the world and the cosmos is a prison so this would cancel out the possibility of a utopia on earth...

[EnglandForever78]

I like a lot of what he says but he tries to paint paganism as a totally benign world view which is a bit off base. Paganism recognizes that the opposites are intertwined ( ie positive and negative, creation and destruction, love and hate ) and both are part of not only physics but also part of the human condition. Paganism is not all hippy peace and love...

[MrLeagueOJustice]

@EnglandForever78 "Paganism is not all hippy peace and love"

Well put

[kroovyandcal]

@EnglandForever78 Paganism is usually a misnomer for Pantheism

[LordShivasServant]

I love how he called his Guardian a babe. :)

[oqvp]

Why you guys use youtube as freaking radio, this is video please get back to 40 and 30's old people this is the era of video, thanks

[Cherie5743]

@oqvp Here's your chance to work on your listening skills.

[pandirasbox]

Gnosticism is NOT the mystery schools. For f$%^ sake! New Age bs. None of the mystery schools were related to one another. Gnostics, unlike the mystery schools, didn't give a hoot about stupid rituals. You are only repeating anti-Gnostic propaganda.

[kappy0405]

@pandirasbox I agree. This guy seems to be making up a plethora of different things that aren't found anywhere in the historical record. He seems to rely on modern works of personal interpretation & conjecture more than the primary sources.

[pandirasbox]

Gnostics are not Buddhists. Get over it.

[pandirasbox]

Really? They called themselves the "ones who are aimed" and where exactly does John Lash get this designation? Anyway, I agree they did not call themselves Gnostic. They called themselves Christians.

[freepeoplenow]

at 1 hour, 36 minutes , I believe the speaker is mistaken about the correction. I believe he is referring to the return to Hunab Ku as believed by the Mayans, which would mean the correction is the expanding and contracting of the light from the source of the galaxy, and this translates to time cycles and the 26,000 year Great Cycle.

[stvbrsn]

@Motorma9 Hey! Yeah, I pretty much agree with you on those points. I guess I'm just not as quick to dismiss Lash outright, because some of what he's saying resonates with my personal work. BUT... I think he's pretty arrogant and pretentious in his demeanor. And, as you pointed out, he blends verifiable ancient belief systems with his own conjecture and presents them as unified doctrine. Then he seems indignant that no other scholars "get it."

Cheers!

[grangersmith]

@stvbrsn First this is the second time I have heard Lash ever, and today only, so I don't get why someone has to be in perfect resonance with your own belief system and ideas, knowledge etc before they are considered legit. I hear what you say, my impression of him, thus far is a little too much confidence and arrogance, but I am not going to join his cult, pay him, (don't have the money to buy books, lectures etc) but like all that I have heard, I take what I need, leave the rest.He doesn't

[grangersmith]

@grangersmith He doesn't have to be perfect, nor do I have to believe everything or anything he says. I don't need to critique his knowledge (I can't really & if I could it would be subjective), I find what he is saying interesting. Don't know what I will do with it, but some of it resonates with me. I have no ambitions of making money, having followers, I am just a fellow human looking for answers, not Gurus/God heads. There are many many paths, many answers, what can I say!

[grangersmith]

@grangersmith He doesn't have to be perfect, nor do I have to believe everything or anything he says. I don't need to critique his knowledge (I can't really & if I could it would be subjective), I find what he is saying interesting. Don't know what I will do with it, but some of it resonates with me. I have no ambitions of making money, having followers, I am just a fellow human looking for answers, not Gurus/God heads. There are many many paths, many answers, what can I say!

[AlanWattParrot]

@grangersmith go to his megahistory site which is a fascinating reservoir of knowledge that he doesn't shake you down for b/c he wants the knowledge out there. He's not arrogant, that's just his passion born of decades of study and his manner of speaking.

[grangersmith]

@AlanWattParrot Already have and find it interesting,he seems sincere in what he knows and that is pretty rare. People usually are in this for money and it's pretty obvious, God,secrets, spirituality, the truth for a price, truth is free,I will never have to pay for truth, no one does...;D

[stvbrsn]

@Motorma7 And even if you disagree with Lash's interpretation of the evidence, of which very little survives, do you really think his suggestion that we strive to rediscover our divine relationship with this incredible sentient planet is HOGWASH? While I take issue with some of his points, I happen to agree with him that finding this lost connection is the only way forward for our egomaniacal, delusional and often psychopathic species.

[HappyBirthdaySANTA]

@stvbrsn nuh man acceptance & content is the only way forward you have to understand your innerself before you can advance. to many people go around telling others what they think instead of understanding whats going on inside of them... check out bruce lipton hes on another level!

[stvbrsn]

@HappyBirthdaySANTA I think we're both talking about the same thing, using different language. Don't know Lipton, but I'm always game to check out new teachings!

In my (albeit limited) understanding of the organization of the universe as a hyperdimensional holographic fractal, I see the human heart (what you termed innerself) as being essentially the same thing as the gravitational singularity at the earth's center. The next hight iteration in the fractal would be the center of the sun. (cont.)

[stvbrsn]

@HappyBirthdaySANTA The next higher, the center of the galaxy. Next lower fractal iteration would be cells, next atoms, next protons, and so on. This view is a synthesis of the ideas of Dan Winter and Nassim Haramein, with a few others mixed in. But what I'm really saying is when you "understand your innerself" you are ALSO simultaneously connecting to to earth, stars, essentially all creation. So I agree with you completely!

(concluded below)

[stvbrsn]

@HappyBirthdaySANTA Terence McKenna was another of my teachers. So, I also COULDN"T AGREE WITH YOU MORE about the primacy of personal experience over what others tell you. Even if it's what "authorities" tell you. Even if it's what the "experts" tell you.

Even if it's what the consensus tells you. Hell, ESPECIALLY if it's what the consensus tells you!

Cheers!

[HappyBirthdaySANTA]

@stvbrsn Yeah bud you know the go! good to see someone else knows..... hahahaha Nassim Haramein is a crazy Genius love his stuff. Terence Mckenna & Rick Strassman change my whole concept of life, set me on the right path can't praise them enough. check out "Kymatica" aswell it's got some good stuff in it as well.. enjoy your weekend man! 

[stvbrsn]

@HappyBirthdaySANTA Hey! Just was checkin' out Bruce Lipton, and I'm amazed I never ran across his stuff before. Thanks Santa, Christmas came early for me! McKenna's work with Sheldrake on epigenetics definitely resonates through this guy. From what I've seen so far he seems more concerned about the chemical, physiological processes, while I'm looking more into energetics. But I LOVE his use of metaphors!

(Ha, I just noticed my spellcheck doesn't recognize "epigenetics" LOL)

[stvbrsn]

@HappyBirthdaySANTA Yep, I've seen Kymatica! Pretty awesome. In fact I think I need to see it again.

If you're really looking for "another level" literally and figuratively, Imagining the Tenth Dimension is a great book. And if you can wade through his odd jargon and odder catch-phrases, Dan Winter has some startling things to say about physics, consciousness, and ancient history from the perspective of an electrical engineer (who also seems to be some sort of modern shaman)

Cheers!

[wilburdewey]

@stvbrsn Dan Winter is a fugitive from the US for failure to appear in a civil suit that he plagiarized (misrepresented) Stan Tenen's work.  How much faith will you put in one that doesn't even show up to defend himself in court on the honesty of his research?

[stvbrsn]

@HappyBirthdaySANTA I'm laughing as I watch kymatica again, Bruce Lipton is in it (I guess his name didn't register with me before) AND Dan Winter's work is cited a few times! Just goes to show how this kind of information self-organizes (in a golden mean fractal, phase-conjugate, implosive, recursive heterodyning constructive wave collapse) and self reinforces, becomes self-aware and starts pulling in more...

HOT DAMN, I think Dan Winter really DID figure out what causes gravity!!!

Cheers!

[stvbrsn]

@Motorma7 That's hilarious. "Read the original source material." Oh, you must be referring to the original source materials that were either burned with their proponents or secreted off to the Vatican library by late Roman power/control freaks. But you are right that "They didn't worship the planet, nor did the druids or the ancient mystery schools." Thats because for the most part, the people you mention had the good sense not to "worship" ANYTHING.

[Thyalwaysseek]

I have found my truth, thank you John Lash. Peace.

[birdinflight82]

Thanks for posting this! In my truthseeking I keep coming back to John Lashs info as the pieces fall together about archons, christianity, rampant pscyhosis and the way that the world leaders are striving for an archonic type world without nature. Mankind has to choose to heal and get out of the disease of fear. Lately I really do have hope that good will prevail!

[katydig]

The "Christians" that murdered Hypatia & destroyed the library at Alexandria were not followers of Jesus. Jesus' teachings appear to be in harmony with the Gnostics (he was probably a Gnostic himself) & his disciples were stamped out by the establishment. The name "Christian" was high-jacked by the "Redeemer Complex" religion/state & the image of Jesus was altered from a teacher to the only "Savior".

[IAMME857]

For the guy at 137, buy a mushroom field guide, find em for free, they pretty much everywhere in the world.

[charlesfrith]

Good interview. Lash comes across as a very decent guy.

[earthbowl]

wonder full

[52bladesdork]

Appreciate this very interesting conversation. I have been a NWO researcher and have found Christians to be the most toxic divisive people attacking others who are trying to expose corruption in our world based on common sense vs "TURN TO JESUS" BS

[Boereprinses]

Excellent. I have seen myself as a Cathar Perfecti for quite some times, because I recognised something in them, that I could not understand from "normal" church doctrine... Like why I became an androgynous being, without ever trying or even knowing about this - but when I read up on the Gnostics, and more in particular the Cathar Perfecti, whom I believed to be evil at that stage, suddenly I saw the connection, the "light" if you like...

[wichywoo]

@Boereprinses you well like the work of philip gardiner?

[um311]

i like what i hear here