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  • I've seen many of those crazy "players" at the bicycle casino here en La

  • That stupid donk who told Negreanu "whatever" needs an * whoppen.

  • some of the most pathetic moves in poker are made at wsop, soo many donks. why do they allow these people?? they are just terrible, and yet they say to negreanu that massively overbetting "is poker"?!? wow, fuck this

  • the phrase "thats poker" just became redundant. urghhh fuck u ya donk

  • i hate those players as well, but who wants to play against daniel? I don't! He knows my cards before i know them.

  • Of course it's poker. If I were up against Daniel Negreanu I'd go all in a lot too. Eventually he'll have to call and I'll take my chances in a race. Because there's no way in hell I'd beat him any other way. Pros might get mad at these tactics, but it is the smart thing to do. The last I want is a 'poker' game with them.

  • lol you guys mad? But you are right, that donk had 15 BB and wasn't time to go all in preflop and make Dan fold his A9 offsuit, But I think if he had 3000 all in against 300, that's much better than folding to a player that plays well on later streets. Just my opinion

  • 0:08 Is it just me or does the guy have "DONK" written all over his forehead?

  • who is he to say what is poker...

  • LoL! The only thing more (let's just say) "out there" than the guy's bet, was defending it by saying "that's poker" ... to Daniel Negreanu! What I love is Daniel's attitude as he folds to a crazy raise: THAT is poker ... winning poker ... patience. 99% of winning poker will never make YouTube.

  • That's poker...

  • these donks never ever go forward to become big money makers ,,,, the pros figure them out and they are gone

  • It's probably the best thing people on this table can do, because Daniel has a huge edge on them... pushing preflop all in makes sure Daniel can't benefit from his superior post flop play ...

  • @Kampfdackel Why are all you guys talking about preflop. This is post flop action

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  • so true. drives me crazy. even with a monster hand i fold. it's like playing bingo

  • what Daniel means is that your getting more out of me if your gona keep making that call.

  • well what a donk. if he goes all in all the time just wait till you got a good hand and go for it.

  • Daniel is way behind the times baby!!! Durrr would say that IS poker!!!

  • @johnnycheck99 No. Durr is super aggressive, yes. But he would have reraised here, maybe by the pot, and then maybe double barrelled etc. Dwan is smart, and knows how to play -shoving them all in here is hardly ever going to be the best way to get most value from your opponent.

  • @johnnycheck99 no. durrr would not make a gross overbet like that unless it was on the river with a large pot...

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  • depends on the blinds

    

  • i hate those people who go all in every hand... makes me wanna flip the table

  • @datboicuz

    Then you wait for a good hand so you can call and go all in to steal all their money.

  • @AlanYugi9689 yea i agree, but when they go all in pre-flop ure cards dont seem as good anymore... so u might call anyway cause they did this all game... so after the flop they hit their two pair and u might get a single pair on the river but not enough to win... and it hurts to kno u got takin out by one of those donk players

  • @datboicuz

    You're right, but the odds that you'll lose are much lower than you winning the pot.

  • @datboicuz Welcome to Zynga.

  • @datboicuz I love playing guys like you, makes me chip up fast 'cause you're so easy to tilt.

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  • If some anonymous noob makes a play, and the #2 on the all-time tournament winnings list tells you it has nothing to do with poker, then you might want to listen in.

    Sure Daniel is frustrated he's forced to fold a draw or a marginal hand, but still. Going all-in to win nothing never led anyone to a final table.

  • No, that's bingo, zero skill involved.

  • It IS poker though-it's the way some of these crazy young dudes play the game. Daniel may be falling behind the pack-yesterday's man??

  • @johnnycheck99

    donks play poker like that. no matter what you got there, that's a horrible play. if he got AA-KK-QQ-AK - he fucked up a premium hand. if he is bluffing - he is risking all his stack for 5 proc of his stack. it's completely stupid

  • @skaloon someone making sense. +1

  • @skaloon I think, its a normal raise. In my eyes, from 300 to 5000 its not stupid. If Negreanu calls, it might be a big pot and you are the leader then or not. Great play of Kings or Queens in my eyes.

  • @Zetelman

    what? do you even know how big are the blinds? at max it was like 100 BB and 50 SB at that point. and that was all negreanu chips. a raise to about 900 is the right play with KK or QQ. you'll not get far with these ridiculous raises. you either run into monsters or get no value out of your monsters.

  • @skaloon johnnycheck99 is just a donk like those at wsop seeing as though he defends shit shit plays like this one. why cant some1 stand up for a world class player for once on youtube?? they always praise donks

  • @weatherallc05

    well it's not like main event is closed. whoever has the money can play. it's all good - pros get there money from donks not from other pros in general. NO FISH - NO FOOD for the sharks.

    they defend donks for many reasons: they don't understand poker and actually think that that is a good play or they don't respect skill (a lot of people hate superior people in any field), etc.

  • @skaloon see, you are absolutely right! these donks are there for the taking! and tbh you have to respect skilful people, i dont know whether its just my autism or not but ive never thought about hating superior in any field. but tbh donks are donks. they are really poor players who go against genuine concepts of the game.

  • @weatherallc05

    i read your first post - thought it was sarcasm. i read your second post i had my doubts. after seening the third one - i bet on sarcasm. anyway, if it's sarcasm you make no sense cause this play was horrible - it's just not profitable in a long run.

  • @weatherallc05

    BTW respecting others allows you to improve. big ego - kills improvement

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  • Sounds like something Hellmuth would say.

  • thats the right way to play a pro

    take him out of his comfort zone

    that actually is poker

  • @hugo3092 The thing is, when you have a good hand, you want the people with worse hands to call you. Rediculous raises like this means that if he is called and doesnt have AA or KK he is screwed, If he does have AA or KK he has completely fucked up a profitable hand.

  • Thats online idiots poker

  • Actually it is poker, how do you think pros make money playing poker? Playing against retards like this who have 10's of thousands of dollars to burn haha. yeah yeah I understand it's not how you play ''poker'' no need to correct me lol. Fact is 95% of people who play poker are just as clueless as this guy.

  • hahaha you look in his face hes a donkey

  • "$300 to $5000, $150 to $10,000." If you find yourself defending these plays then you probably should stop playing online poker and read a poker book. ANY of them.

    If you do not at least understand "pot odds" then you might want to at least relax when one of the best in the world says "it's not poker"

  • It's a play. It's poker. And it quite effective. But use if sparingly.

  • I hope they both die of AIDS.

  • Don't talk back to Daniel you hillbilly

  • what's with all the moronic commenters thinking this is pre-flop? horrible play either way, but jeez

  • Well it is poker u can bet anything u want mayb not good poker but thats another story Dan show sum class Dan no need 2 blittle sum1 less skilled then u

  • @Gold7711 the guy said "that's poker" when that saying has nothing to do with massively overbetting pots--it's usually said after a massive suckout. in no-limit you can bet anything want, sure, but there's also limit poker. daniel didn't belittle him, he just said, "no, that's not poker, that might be how ya'll play"... he was actually pretty gracious all things considered. it's clear the guy doesn't have the slightest clue or slightest amount of skill but thankfully he has $10,000 of dead money

  • I understand what Daniel is saying, but if you don't have the chips to stay in the hand...even he knows just get out of the way. There's nothing wrong with putting someone all in...I don't care WHO they are. Either call, re-raise, or fold. I can't even count the number of times I've seen Daniel pull the same move on lesser known players. So I call bullshit.

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  • I fold on the bastards

  • He wanted to play a little lotto, so there is not the right place

  • I don't know what the blinds are but with a raise to 300 the blinds were probably 50/100 and 5k is 50 big blinds.. not something you should shove with.

  • These donks have been playing too much FB poker. Raise all-in on the pre-flop. Most stupid moves ever.

  • hahahaha u r all nubs if ur a pro and ur lucky u go al in cuz idiots wil cal u adn ull win

    once i had 73 adn i went all in b4 teh flop and an nub caled wit AA adn the flopp was 456 HAHAHAHAH WUT A NUB HE GOT PWNED HARD

  • @jpokerplayerpro fucking idiot suck my dick

  • @swiftdan8 LOL

  • @swiftdan8 Fail. Weak, pathetic, internet hard girl.

  • Daniel liked that joke

  • @swiftdan8 You should write nonsensical gibberish in upper case only as it makes you seem less stupid. Oh my error... it didn't help.

  • "that's poker for you" lol negreanu being gentleman not laughing at his retardedness

  • freaking hate agressive inexperienced players. But i tell you... patience is a must have, going against them.

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  • @nekkro92 not that early in a tournament their is no good blinds to steal.

  • the flop is up

  • lmfao. u know its poker when u get a world number 1 to RAGE. lost his poker face there huh

  • @bananaman22 He didn't rage dumbass. He implied the fact that the guy who put him all in is a fucking moron... You probably play the same way. I shit on people like you.

  • @MCHellraiser88 ROFL. UMAD?! take it easy brah. what happened to your poker face? LOL. no wonder ur not at one of those tables. lol. feed the pot!!!

  • @bananaman22 lol really? Say what you want donkey. My ROI is 12%. Bottom line, I make more money on the side having fun with my favorite hobby than you do at your shitty job at McDonalds. And the hell of it is I'm small time. I'm heads up in an $11 game right now and walking away with at least $30. How's that for poker face BITCH?!?! Say what you want. At the end of the day money talks and bullshit walks.

  • @MCHellraiser88 USOOOOMAD ROFL. DIDNT EVEN READ UR RANT. LOL. GEEZ. CHILL LOL

  • @MCHellraiser88 lol your a scrub

  • @b2theec jealous little 15 year old. Mad that I make more money than your daddy playing a game??

  • go danny goooo

  • danny is best

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  • The guy says "whatever" to Daniel, a 6 time bracelet winner? What a chump.

  • and hes right! no1 sane would play that hand! what i usualy ask is "did it worth it?" and he gets 150 in 500000 game loool

  • thats when a noob gets aces. he s afraid to see a flop because he knows, he is too stupid to fold aces no matter what the board is like so he pushes allin because only preflop he sure knows hes ahead BEACAUSE like i said he is too stupid and retarded to see where he s at after flop.

  • @ruspa86 very well said 

  • It's never Poker when you lose a hand.

  • why complain? stack that noob

  • What amazes me is that after Daniel states "300 bet gets raised to 5000, and a 150 bet got raised to 10.000" someone at the table actually said "Welp, thats poker!" No, actually thats not poker, thats called push-botting, and should only exist in Hyper-turbos or turbo-satellite structures. Fckin ridiculous how dumb people are.

  • don't be a bitch because you lost you're money lol

  • That's bingo*

  • These guy Must've won an online freeroll for his seat LOL! 500 to 10,000 thats like saying ill risk your house for my magnet stupid idiot only would be maginal if the chips were in jeopardy because you don't want to be outplayed by a pro and ind oing so you just shove when you think you are good

  • heeee haW

  • Its not a horrible play if you're sure your oponent is on a big draw and will fold or you want to build an image that you will go all in with questionable hands.

  • @leefost Or , you can do it and get called by a dude who just bet into a set and you lose.

  • i love tables full of fishes,so i never complain about their awful play.

    But if you just want to play a good tournament,and somebody raises the pot x17,well,just wait and let him be eliminated.

  • if Daniel says it isnt poker, then it isnt poker.

  • @Khaminor absolutely true! I love Daniel!!!

  • What I deduce from this is Daniel has been aggressive so people are making stands against him as he points out two pushes. Secondly we didn't see what either of the flops were that either player pushed against him. Its early 300 bet on the flop so Daniel would easily be a player playing marginal cards and you could put the moves on him. Lastly the fact they went so much over the top says Daniel is right because the raise is too much. Whether you hold something or not a trip or quad bet would do.

  • STOP THE MADNESS.....its not the kind of thing you would want to do every hand, but hey he won the hand. You go through enough bad beats and you start to put the pressure on early. HE WON THE HAND. Thats the bottom line! everyone wants to make every hand look sexy. NOBODY here has a fucking bracelet. Your NOT going to get any value from your hand with Daniel Ne-Fucking-greanu at your table....i'm not into letting other people win.

  • Those guys must play online only. Because that's how online bingo players play.

  • gotta love lotto poker players. douchebags.

  • @osytheowns Exactly.

    

  • That's poker alright. Facebook play money poker.

  • Making such a raise kills action. The only way someone can call is if they have a monster hand. If you win, you win little - If you lose, you lose everything. Going all-in or making a huge raise preflop says, "I'm a stupid donk who doesn't have any postflop skills". You want to reduce the field with a strong hand, not get everyone to fold. Playing your strong hands like the moron did in this video will win you a few uncontested blinds, but you are going to eventually run into AA or KK.

  • What a simple yet astute observation.

  • negreanu is the most sympathetic player of all.

  • @daftpunk909 suck it hoe. your the most pathetic human of them all.

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  • @VicenzoV going all in with nothing led Candio to THE final table :) and he is still one of my favourites players! anyway,I agree with you.

  • @scaxxomaxx

    lmao Candio...wow, what a great example

  • @scaxxomaxx Hhmmm, didn't he go all-in with nothing to win a big pot?

  • @VicenzoV yea you said it to win a BIG pot!

  • @VicenzoV you ever hear of jamie gold

  • @VicenzoV The flop was up however

  • @zacke10 Good point, I thought the were going crazy preflop...

  • @VicenzoV Perfect comment. Cant say it any better.

  • @VicenzoV how do 81 ppl thumbs up this comment...the flop is already out there

  • @pokerjon06 Thanks for pointing that out. Your comment has received my thumbs up. 

  • @VicenzoV i thumbs up him too!

  • @sexyrafaelboss Now get him up to 81 that pour soul!!

  • @VicenzoV he saw the flop noob... daniel has a gutshot or a low pair and wants to see a nice turn...

  • @VicenzoV in the early blind levels, especially. what's the point unless the pot is really huge and you have a lock hand. i can see stealing the blinds later, but.....

  • @VicenzoV very well explained. I totally agree with you.

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  • Daniel should shut up and let the donks give their money away. Don't Educate the fish, THATS an unwitten rule of poker.

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  • that's 1 dollar full tilt tournament right there! Donks go all in with 2,7

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  • So right.

  • It is the same as betting a bike to win a house

  • @Fip101 u said it the other way around

    u meant betting a house to win a bike

    more like betting a house to win a lolypop

  • @TheBarbahaba woops, thanks for correcting me

  • You people are morons. It's not 'bad etiquette'. If player a bet's 300 (into a pot of say, 600?) and player b raises to 5000, then player b is laying 5.55 to 1. In other words, player A only has to call like 18% of the time to be at break even threshold. No matter how you slice it, this other guy is giving negreanu an easy play (either call with a monster or make an easy fold). Dan is trying to explain to these guys how moronic they are. If you disagree, then I suppose you are in the same boat.

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  • I agree with glowyrm.Fuck all the etiquette.This nonsense about slowrolls where pros berate each other and amateurs.Forward motion shit as well,a pump fake is a legit move.It is only cheating when no one else can do what you are doing.

  • basically daniel is 100 percent correct doesnt matter what two cards he had he played them wrong and stole a very small pot by risky all thier chips if your thinking its a good play if he had pocket aces again he didnt win much

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  • well, going all in against pros is the right thing to do if you suck cock at poker :p

  • There’re some very likely explanations here as to what Negreanu meant by that comment and we’ll never know for sure. However, Negreanu has long said that the Main Event should be pot limit in order to make it a more skilful contest by nullifying the tactic of the deep stack PF all in (a tactic well know for “levelling the playing field” against a stronger opponent) so I think what he may have meant is that poker should be a skill game, not a game of shoving PF and hoping for the best.

  • ppl just like to be able to say i bluffed the best i guess, or beat the best in a hand

  • Negreanu is not that good

  • @aptand i agree hes only loud

  • That's poker, imo

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  • I've read that Daniel said "that's not poker" once to Di Dang (urindanger) during a tourney, not knowing who it was. I heard it was recorded but can't seem to find it. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

  • over raising is a good way to take down a pot uncontested with a shit hand if you have got a good read on someone

  • @daveygravey123456 not really why would you over raise with a shit hand to pick up a small pot, this guys raise all in pre is horrible...

  • @WhereMyVidz in this situation not much point, he probably just wanted to tell his frinds at the gaybar how he won a pot from daniel