The Media Has To Be Objective & Not Neutral

[VIRTLANTIS]

both objective and neutral journalism/reporting can mislead...critical thinking is a must but not always present...seems there is a difference between "objective" reporting and the pushing of an opinion/agenda...what do you think?...then again, perhaps it depends on how you define the word objective...

–adjective

4.

being the object or goal of one's efforts or actions.

5.

not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion.

[Daisy4Loka]

And I'm soooo sure Cenk is so objective and open minded considering his bias libtard rants on The Young Turds and MSNBC.

Shut up you stupid libtard!

[Neosaigo]

@Daisy4Loka LOL Yes, calling someone a libtard make you sound objective and open minded.

[scorpionsSon]

/watch?v=IW4Ycih0a78

[TheNobleWalk]

Must we cONtinuE to be assaulted bY the bIg newS channEls? they Really (ReallY) boTHer me wIth their very biased News... God help us

[GGLebo23]

Thats why I watch Fox News. I fuckin hate it, but at the same time I like to look at things from both perspectives so I can make my own judgments in the end. Ppl who think subjectively are inclined to sheepism.

[TimLivelyUnearthed]

You can be objective by reporting without a commentary. The problem is that reporters want to be celebrities.

[820423]

@TimLivelyUnearthed Indeed. Where I come from, personal commentaries are completely unethical when youre reporting the news.

Because it is not your job to express your opinions or to rally the people for or against anything.

It doesnt matter if a club-owner had tourched his club, killing 100s, for the insurance money. One personal comment about it, and someone else will be in your anchor-seat before the next morning.

[820423]

To present the news is a responsability beyond anything else in media.

It goes hand in hand with the preservance of democracy and the right to form your own opinions without the taint of manipulation.

Objectivity must be upheld, at all cost, lest we'd be stuck with the same undemocratic philosophies that our american counterparts subscribe to.

[nudgler]

Since when is he interested in 'facts'?.....or being objective? For Cenk's information, Obama has decided to continue Bush's "Illegal spying", it funny how he wont report that part

[Kalahridudex]

when you think hamas, think republicans on steroids, a bunch or right wing closed minded pricks. when hamas dies it will take the war with it. hamas needs to sign unconditional surrender. you can negotiate with the PLO, infact they have already recognized Israel. but hamas is way to radical to negotiate with.

[LanLbn]

@Kalahridudex if hamas failed.. yeah sure the war would end.. but at that time, would gaza still exist.. or would it be by then part of israel.. or even do palestine state would gone by then.. that's why they keep fighting.. they had no one whom they can trust to make sure gaza and palestinian state going to be established.. and why nobody trust them.. bcoz israel label them as terrorist when they're just seeking independence and a sovereign state.. they cant rely on fatah.

[withoutasong]

Fallacy of the golden mean!

[frio109]

Cenk sucks..........

[moestietabarnak]

Missed an occasion to trash the fox slogan 'fair balanced'

(We'll even invent thing against obama to balance against republican's )

[BlackAfricanBrother]

DICK CHENEY IS OBAMA'S UNKLE!!

[Greywind30]

Two weak points.

Preparation to war is perfect "casus belli"

Israel already made a number of unilateral concession and get nothing in return.

I'm sorry but at some point you have to understand Arabs do not want peace. They want victory or death.

[restlys]

so...thats reason enough to kill them?

[Greywind30]

yes

[naganokumas]

I like you.

[SterlingSadler]

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[EdgardoJustice]

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[LillianColwynnscehy]

This is nice video84025818

[GermaineIlya]

this is not the way to get peace

yes which brings me to the conclusion that someone very powerful doesnt want peace

[820423]

you mean Oprah?

[cmnsense]

You sir, are a warped, knuckle dragging, dumb ass! I'm not going to even respond to your video b/c there are so many things wrong with it.

[Ragitsu]

"I'm not going to even respond to your video"

Congratulations, you did!

[hogcard]

If torture saves (1) American life, I'm all for it. Who is this fat a&S anyway?

[bernlin2000]

Prove to me that it does, and I'm for it too. But you can't because nobody can show that the information gained from torture is even valid. If you're getting beaten within an inch of your life, how credible is the information you give: you'll say anything to stay alive!

[RepublicanBabe]

Anyone who listens to this S^&% is a moron! WTH are you talking about?? The news has a liberal bias and even the liberals can see that! Ass wipes!

[illbank]

lol i see your coming at this with an open mind "republicanbabe"

[RepublicanBabe]

case in point, dumbass!

[jwhyte67]

The american media objective? Who are you kidding Cenk?

[ronrayah]

why dont the jews give the arabs back their land and the U.N can do what they should have 63 years ago and give the Jews a piece of Germany. This shit will go on forever as long and palestinians live as refugees on their own land and The jews kill them with American weapons. Americans wont wake up until one of these islamic nuts sneaks a nuke into our country then maybe will stop letting isreal make our policys.Next time it wont just be towers it will be citys.

[Amiel912]

You're wrong! Israel is right.

[oldhacks]

bring back the fairness doctrine and ban corporate influence. Insurance companies and weapons manufacturers could give a shit less about whether or not we have a well informed public. in fact they stand to lose their pants if we Were better informed.

[RDJ1109]

The media has to be objective? Thats funny coming from the youngturks. Only the most bias source of info on the web. Being non bias doesnt mean neutral you dumb fuckin turks.

[Rosannasfriend]

actually, that is Cenk's point. Neutrality and objectivity are not the same. Also, the reason he leans so much to the left is because he IS being objective.

[RDJ1109]

Hey retard, leaning to the left so openly is exactley why he is NOT objective. Clearly you need to look up what being objective means. Here I'll dumb it down for you a bit: being objective means giving both sides of an argument. When does that dumb bastard ever do that? Think about what you say before you post moron.

[cheddyrod]

Do you understand the word objective and the phrase leaning to the left?

[Rosannasfriend]

actually, objectivity means being able to look at a situation with a clear, fair mind. Yes, you look at both sides of the argument, but after that sometimes you see that one is more wrong than the other. That IS objectivity. Now, I don't have to call you a retard or anything as bad as what you called me, cause anyone who reads your post can see what you are for themselves. Thanks! :)

[adamfruitcake]

The facts are facts, what does 50/50 have to do with facts? The objectivity comes from looking at the facts, the facts come from the news. Therefore the news needs to provide neutral facts, viewer's/reader's minds can do the rest.

[sonmar10]

When Hamas was elected by palestinians, US and european countries refused to accept Hamas, although US asked for the ellection and the ellection done under the UN supervision.

[RDJ1109]

learn how to spell election before you try to make your point next time.

[morpheous7]

Zionist are the new Nazi

[RDJ1109]

thats sort of an oxi moron. Uh, what about people who hang 16 year old girls after they got raped for breaking sharia law in Iran? What about the versus in the Quran that talk about throwing homo sexuals from mountains? What about people that strap bombs on their waist and blow up buses full of school children? they arent nazis to you? Disarm Israel and there would be no Israel. Disarm palestine and there would be no war. Peace hippie.

[Tom123collins]

Nazism is a political party, not an adjective to describe someone who does terrible things.

[RDJ1109]

well tom, you should tell that to the person i was responding to. The point I was making was that if your going to call the "Zionists" Nazis, maybe the people who follow Sharia law are Nazis too. Sharia and Nazi Germany have alot in common. But you already know that since your such a scholar.

[RepublicanBabe]

Please tell me you are not an American!

[Tom123collins]

Are you referring to my comment regarding Nazism? If so, then understand; I was not saying Nazis haven't done terrible things, I was simply stating that you can't just call someone a Nazi because they do something bad.

That would be like me calling someone a Republican because they lie. Although some Republicans are known for lying, this is not limited to them. Democrats can (and do) also lie.

I was only trying to correct their use of the word, not arguing in favor of Nazism.

[morpheous7]

shut the fuck up you vile Yid. Isreal has shown its true murderous colours. sure you have won the militry objective under a yank umberella but you have lost every ounce of decency or respect. The entire world is Hamas now fucker.

[RDJ1109]

Typical leftist. You get shut down in debate so you resort to name calling. Thats okay. But as far as your comment about the "whole world" being hamas. Sorry for you my angry friend but if that were true than Israel wouldnt exist anymore and you and I both know that Israel isnt going anywhere anytime soon no matter how much that may piss you off. I hope Israel finishes the job this time. Later my angry terrorist friend.

[econchick]

cenk i love you! i want you so bad

[fatmoleman]

The FCC act of 96 abolished fair and balanced news. Ever since it has been a free for all of bullshit. Left leaning, right leaning. None leaning towards centrist, fair and balanced reporting. MSM is a massive propaganda machine.

[ashag28]

Did Turkey accept responsibility for slaughtering 1 500 000 armenians in a day or so. OH, not yet? pardon me. objectivity, loving it. not biased muslim brothers. love young muslim "intelectuals".

[ilpalozzo]

Cenk has mentioned that he accepts that the Armenian genocide happened and his co-host Ana Kasparian is Armenian and it's been openly discussed on the show

[sonyavsystem]

What happened to the Young Turks video that was up last night? The one showing the Raw footage of Gaza?

Jewish youtube hit job or did Cenk cave?

[s5251]

I think jew youtubers felt shame about that vid and asked TYT to hide it.

[hollywoodartchick]

You have hit the fallacy of "Fair and Balanced," which is based on 50% Truth and 50% press release from PR dept of offending company or defense attorney for white collar criminal or White House press secretary. The idea that the real story lies somewhere between the well-publicized party line of the powerful and a badly represented opinion of someone with no authority on the other side is NOT responsible journalism. But the public does not know that.

[sskrewdriver]

Its more then 900 civilian deaths now. Seems like the israelis want see how it feels to be commiting the holocaust. They seem to enjoy Hitlers position.

[stratity]

You effectively transform a country into a "terrorist" entity (one which defends itself with what little resources it has available) when you respect neither its soverignty nor the democratic choices made by its people.

[godzillaislarge]

maaannnnnnnnnnn fuck the media!!!

[Bubba186]

Fatah would negotiate a truce, but they have no power, so that means squat. Hamas will never negotiate peace and since they are in power, this will not end until either Israel beats them down until they cant fight, or the rest of the world can pressure them to stop. As far as reporting goes, I prefer an objective reporter not a biased one, then I can make up my own mind.

[18bites]

Hamas has already demonstrated that they will negotiate with Israel. Has Israel demonstrated that they will negotiate with any Palestinian organization in good faith?

[Bubba186]

Really? Isn't their main theme the destruction of Israel? Don't they use childrens shows to teach little kids to hate Jews? Maybe you know some different Hamas than the one I read about?

[18bites]

yes, i encourage you to read about things that actually happened rather than the selective ranting about the hamas charter. if you think killing and dying is great then stick with your 'hamas is evil' mantra. if you want to live in a decent world, something else is in order.

"There is no more Palestine. Finished..." - Moshe Dayan, TIME Magazine (30 July 1973)

[Bubba186]

I did see they want a 10 day cesae fire, sounds more like time to heal and fight some more. If you can convince yourself that suicide bombers are ok, then there is no hope for you. At least Israel wears uniforms and they are in plain sight. I don't care who did what first, that probably goes back as far as recorded time. Israel is trying to attack military targets, Hamas sends their kids strapped with bombs to markets and weddings, seems clear to me who the evil ones are.

[Oddrob13]

You're expecting Hamas should fight with tanks and planes and choppers and guns that they don't have. They are doing the best they can with what they have and if it came down to it the U.S. would probably do the same.

[Bubba186]

I understand they are under armed, they knew that before they started firing rockets. If they had been attacking military targets, maybe I would have some sympathy, but firing random rockets into civilian areas, blowing up weddings, nope, no sympathy.

[adnane1973slim]

Hittler do you remember him?? you pig Hail Hittler you Zionist Pig.

[1200chan]

dont insult hitlers name by calling him zionist

[melora72]

It is nearly impossible to insult hitler. He did that to his own memory. Imagine how many people have had their last namas legally changed. Hitler may even have been part Jew himself, which I'd hate being true. But it would be cool payback for Hitler to find out in hell that he's not only hated, but he's jewish so his former followers avoid him. Zionist have nothing on Nazis. If you were not involved in liberating concentration camps I'd shut up on whether a Nazi or a Zionist is wose.

[1200chan]

thers 60 of propaganda cut through if you really want to who hitler was, but who was hitler fighting against? before even hitler came to power the jewish marxist bolsheviks had killed 20,000 000 ppl in russia, after hitlers death, they killed 40,000 000 the communist in china killed 50,000 000

hitler was fighting against great evil and lost and now the zionist got their own country and still killing ppl,

[RDJ1109]

Dude, I'm so glad people like you are my opposition. People that dont believe in evolution or dinosaurs or believe that the Nazis started world war two, just make it that much easier to point out how dumb opponents of Israel are.

[1200chan]

im dont give enough shit about israel to be a "opponent" but im a opponent of LIES.

it takes more intelligence to ask questions rather than swallow the jewish media brainwashing.if you love israel so much why dont you go there and kill little children yourself i think you fit the job,

[RDJ1109]

Jewish media? In america or somewhere else? I havent heard a positive thing about Israel ever from American media so I dont know where your getting that idea. As far as being an opponent of lies, well, you dont believe that dinosaurs ever existed or that WWII was started by Germany. Sorry dude, as a person on the right I think I can safely say nobody on our side wants you and I doubt anyone on the left does either. Please dont respond to me until you grow a brain in your head. Thanx.

[1200chan]

"I havent heard a positive thing about Israel ever from American media"

hahahaha your a funny guy,

ww2 started when polish marxists were killing the german population inside polens border so hitler made a pact with stalin to go in to polen together but england only declared war against germany and not russia!!!??

dinosaurs cant exist because they were to big to lift their body weight or to get blood up to their heads, no land creature can be bigger or heavier than an elephant in earths gravity

[RDJ1109]

Seriously, stop making yourself look so stupid. please, what retard theory can you give me to explain why we as humans would just make up the existance of dinosaurs. Was it just to make Jurassic Park movies? I know you think your some kind of physics professor with your gravity theories but there is so much physical proof that proves they existed that I could write you a fucking book about. Please stop posting your stupid opinions. your embarrassing yourself.

[1200chan]

lol you could write a book? i srsly doubt that

whats the first thing atheists/evolutionists say when they are trying to defend darwin and discredit religion, "what about the dinosaurs?"

there bullshit and never existed and couldent have existed that what you fucking cunt

[SquallCloud]

To 1200chan: Wait, are you saying... dinosaurs never existed? It was made up by the atheists/evolutionists?

If so... please leave the gene pool. :(

[Albukhshi]

first off, there are mammals bigger than an elephant on land (they're extinct now). man has even hunted them. so an elephant is not the max. second, no dinosaur weighed more than 60-80 tons in life (100 on is an outdated measure), and as the legs of souropods (the giants) were much thicker than an elephants, they can support far more weight (remember the squaring laws). lastly, dinosaurs of the sauropod order carried their necks straight, so heart circulation isn't that difficult I'll PM you.

[PloughTheSky]

So I guess all the dinosaur squeletons and stuff were kind of put on Earth by Satan to deceive people into thinking that the Earth wasn't created 6,000 years ago? :)

[melora72]

Hitler killed the mentally and physically disabled, Poles, Jews, Gypsies, political dissadents, Homosexuals. People considered inferior wew sterilized. He invaded countries all over Europe. At lest the Zionists limit their aggression to neaby crountrie they consider a threat to their security. They are not intersited in invading, Egypt, Iran, Jordan, Syria, and Saidi Arabia. There are more Jews in the US than in Israeli, but they're not invading canada or mexico.

[bot06]

I dont want to offend you but i want to ask you this. Would that be OK if hamas use guide misiles killing only people in uniform, bridges and no civilains at all, whould that be ok and more acceptable?

The issue here is not missiles, it is just an excuse to go to war and commit hate crimes. The real issue is the occupation of land and settlement.

Islam has been so demonized that defending it is almost impossile. But here it has nothing to do with islam, it has everything to do with freedom.

[Bubba186]

It would be better than murdering some random civilian to make a political point. The best thing would be to use diplomacy, but that requires more maturity than they seem to have.

[bot06]

No my friend it will not be better but only worse because then they'll be targeting people! They don't murder people. They fire missiles which even they don't know where they'll end up. It is like shooting a gun in the air and the bullet lands on someone.

Murdering is what your friends are doing aiming human beings with missiles deliberately knowing that international community is against it. This is never a road to peace but more violence. But we may not agree because one of us is brainwashed.

[Bubba186]

so, if I fire rockets in the direction of your house, and your kid dies, that would be fine with you? after all, I did not aim specifically at her...one of us is brainwashed alright...

[bot06]

How many Isreali kids have died in the past 8 years? and how many Palestinians? If more isreali kids have died then I will definitely blame Hamas and palestianians.

[lamborger]

That is such a great point I feel like an idiot for not even thinking about that. GOOD POINT. Seriously.

[Bubba186]

oh, so if Israel just went in and executed 8 palestinians that were picked at random, everything would be fine and Hamas would stop firing rockets? Sorry, it does not work that way. Why should Israel put up with Hamas? I would not. It is not a game, the score means nothing. The point is to stop the rockets, Hamas does not care about the people in Gaza, they are pawns.

[Chibling]

im not sure if you can truly have peace when 2 monotheistic religions claim to have god on their side

[as2711]

the current death toll is 1010- with at least 400 women and children

[Kratzbyrste]

As long the US are kissing Israel's ass, Israel will continue this stupidity.

[rud8420]

@Kratzbyrste wow you wrote this comment a year ago and look what isreal has done since...good call!!

[mcalien24]

neutrality has no bias

objectivity has a bias towards truth

[widgit007]

I don't understand.

I have chained a dog to a tree in my back yard and no matter how much i beat it, starve it and shorten its chain, it just seems to get more aggressive and crazy.

Oh well, time to get the big stick out again.

[mulahid]

That is a good analogy, I might have to steal it.

[BeyondWrittenWords]

Siege of Gaza is clearly a violation of international laws and a crime against humanity, it's the same stuff Nazis and Serbs did. Only this time, the other side has the most powerfull military by the balls, and no serious military opponent.

[Stormwern]

Well said, exactly what drives me nuts about american media.

[sonyavsystem]

Why did the video of the raw footage in Gaza disappear?

[moulingalette]

Cenk makes a good case for why Israel wouldn't be able to wipe out Hamas in Gaza, but after the Iraq war I have to question it.

You have to admit that it didn't seem like the U.S. would have been able to wipe out almost all of the resistance in Iraq, and yet we did.

I'm not saying it was a justified war, or one that should have been fought, but as of today there is very little resistance in Iraq and we have pretty much "won". Theoretically, Israel could do the same with Gaza.

[DillonX]

moul --

I disagree w/ your assertion that we've won in Iraq.

Yes, almost all the Jews & Christians have been driven out of Iraq, & probably over 2 million Sunni Muslims have left their homes in Iraq...but just driving opposition out of the country doesn't indicate victory to me.

And Israel is only creating more enemies (as Bush has done) so that's not a victory.

It's a myth to think you can make a slave love you by beating him or her.

[moulingalette]

I understand that there can be blowback and people are mad at us, but this is nothing new throughout history. All of the powerful civilizations conquered others and made them pissed.

Blowback can only happen in any important sense if they become nearly as powerful as we are. Did Alexander or Ghengis Khan care about blowback? No one would dare stand up to them after they were conquered.

[DillonX]

moulingalette:

The blowback here will be severe.

There are very few Jews in the world.

But there are oh-so many more Muslims.

Within about 10 yrs the Muslims will have the power to totally wipe Israel off the map, so Israel needs to be rushing to the peace-table now & not inviting future blowback!

[grahamkeithtodd]

sorry dilonx old son the muslims have not wiped the state of Israel off the face of the earth yet! odd that millions of muslims and so few jews and STILL there there!

face it all the wars the arabs have fought against Israel,the arabs have LOST! the closest they came to winning was back in 1973 and the Isrealies changed there tatics and WON!

[mcalien24]

ur not considering the possiblity of blowback?

[jsg103]

meh, objective is over rated, this is the u.s.a. jank, you know we're not objective.lol

[Aiursrage2k]

End aid to everyone and remain Neutral, how can that be wrong.

[Jackthemeat]

Dear Cenk, your wife if the luckiest woman on earth. I rub my clit to your handsome face and Genius on a daily basis. I love you

5 stars!!!!

[BaldEspresso]

LoL I'm pretty sure Cenk is going to take a screen shot of that comment and send it to his wife.

[ecwaufisxtreme]

When Palin becomes POTUS in 2012, she will unleash the WRATH OF GOD onto the liberal leftist media. Fox News will be the only viable news source left in the country!

[sisforshayla]

for real!

[YawnGod]

All spying is illegal.

Surveillance may or may not be illegal.

There's a diffrence. Please note it.

[IckyThump101]

splitting hairs

[YawnGod]

I can't believe I spelled difference incorrectly.

Oh, the shame. Typos fail.

[p12psicop]

How do you define spying? Do you mean espionage is illegal in every country on earth and therefore all spying is illegal? Just curious.

[YawnGod]

That is what I mean.

[BenjaminFranklin2u]

Great points and I agree 100% Cenk.

[crowdaddy13]

whether or not a media outlet is right or left, the main thing is that it needs to be TRUE AND THE FACTS ARE RIGHT......if a democrat fucks up, then fine hound his ass to death, but dont speculate or throw facts out of your ass.....if a republican is wrong, grill his ass too, with the truth......its just the fact that people like bill o'reilly and rush limbaugh just make shit up to talk about, no research, no fact finding, just bullshit talking points, thats the problem on both sides

[Shaqpk]

Thank you The Young Turks, I am totally agree with you.

[Cheshirecatmeow1]

Many people don't realize that apart from being a militant organization, Hamas is also a social, political and economic organization. While Hamas fires rockets into Israel, it builds schools and libraries in Gaza; while it organizes suicide bombers, it directs traffic in Gaza.

[highway234]

so... free ted bundy? is that what you're saying, cenk? libs! they're soft on crime!

[crowdaddy13]

i dont think thats what he said dude

[highway234]

yeah, i was sorta joking around. trying to, anyway.

i dig the biker stuff man. nice vids on your profile.

[crowdaddy13]

its hard to see sarcasm through text, no big deal......thanks for the profile comments, been a biker for awhile, out of the club life now though, gotta concentrate on the family LOL

[musicislife1010]

great rant, cenk.

[abi420]

Cenk is right on the mark once again. I know many isreal supporters are going to use the self defense argument to justify this conflict but as Cenk pointed out there is no way to defeating hammas all togheter. The only result the offensive is achiving is the creation of more radical extrimist who want to fight isreal (those fighters are going to mostly consists of people who lost their children and family to the IDF). In conclusion this conflict is not going to solve anything.

[blasphimus]

I've been telling Israel supporters I know that self defense the way Israel does it, only causes more radicals. I agree if somebody fires missles at you then you will want to fire back, but when you return fire, and kill innocent children. Expect a more extreme and deadly legion to arise from the death. Because their kids are dead and for most people, there is no justification for killings one's children, no matter how dangerous their parents may or may not be.

[salsabil786]

nice

[burntonion05]

I think the media should be neutral or you end up with Fox News types which is kind of dangerous.

[katey1dog]

For those that require knowledge from the media and prefer to use their own intellect to come to a justifiable conclusion, the media probably should be neutral.

If you want bias in newsreporting, then seek Olberman or O'Reilly. Commentary is still journalism. Find some.

[rencrow]

Not sure if i agree. I still think neutrality for the news media is the best way to go.

[flyingtorpedo]

I agree Cenk the media has to be Objective not politically biased like the mainstream media projects the news.

[NecipPerver]

Cenk you was fair. I think too moderate if anything. keep it up.

[1988430]

5th...I GOT THE 5th COMMENT.

WOOOOWHOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[likes2p]

TELL THAT TO OBAMA!

He's all about neutrality over reason.

[jshooper]

unfortunately i agree with you....he is willing to be wrong just so he can say...look i'm not a "super liberal"....as the republicans claim he is.....they have been proven to be wrong in most of their philosophies and obama is willing to imbrace them as if they have been right...it's like the smart kid in the class failing a test on purpose just to show the bullies that he isn't a nerd.....it might stop them from picking on you for a while but in the long run it doesn't help you

[anighel]

4rth

[baddmanaz]

good one cenk