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  • You will NOW insult me and tell me to "take my meds" you insulting pigs.I DEMAND you say it "say it"!!!JESUS FAILED! If He came to fulfil and the law stays in place until it is fulfilled and according to you that it is still in place then the obvious answer is JESUS FAILED according to you.You cannot have it both ways.

  • you  are all arrogant and ignorant.you know all and every other person knows nothing.You state "take meds" or go to a doctor".CURSE THE LOT OF YOU! Soon most of the world will be wiped out and not A Second too soon.WHAT DO YOU THINK IT MEANS>I CAME TO FULFIL.So you are saying He failed.Jesus was a failure according to you imbeciles.Because you say the law still applies.You call Jesus a failure.

  • so you say Jesus did NOT fulfil.So He came in vain?Is that what you say?Nothing will pass until all is fulfilled?And He came to Fulfil?So according to you He failed.

  • @allthesealsareopen No, it means he's not finished yet. Just because you want it all over now just shows your impatience. Grace is what he came to fulfill and he succeeded remarkably. If his job was done, then he wouldn't need to come back! He's not a failure. He's the consummate PROFESSIONAL. Like I said. Seek help.

  • @MJontherox SAY that to myy face dog.I will rip your heart out.YOU EVIL DOG!He isnt coming back tpo dance.HE IS BACK TO KILL!DESTROY!HE WILL MAKE IT DESOLATE!ACCORDING TO YOU HE FAILED!HE WONT FAIL WHERE YOU ARE CONCERNED!YOU ROTTEN DOG!PAEDOPHILE! STAY AWAY FROM THE LITTLE CHILDREN YOU EVIL ONE WHO HAS SEX WITH CHILDREN!

  • @MJontherox swhat part of I AM HERE TO FULFIL" do you not understand paedophile. AM HERE!HERE!HERE!to FULFIL!!! FULFIL!!! Learh the Scriptures paedophile and stay away from the Children.

  • @allthesealsareopen Satan will make this place desolate. It's already happening.

    Calling others pedophile dogs, pigs etc is just hilarious. Water off a ducks back. In fact, I hope it annoys you that I forgive you of these things! 9th commandment.

  • "JESUS is the MAN OF SIN BECAUSE HE WAS BURDENED WITH THE SINS OF MAN"

    2 Thes 2 "3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the SON OF PERDITION 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

  • PERDITION "a state of eternal punishment and damnation into which a sinful and unrepentant person passes after death"

    And the dinosaur roared.

  • @MJontherox PERDITION Greek apōleia UTTER DESTRUCTION.What do you Think Jesus does during second coming?He isnt coming to play checkers.Read what the Bible says.A CONSUMPTION!TOTAL DESTRUCTION!

  • @MJontherox 2 Corinthians 5:Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. SIN GREEK hamartia MEANING collectively, the complex or aggregate of sins committed either by a single person or by many

    HE WAS MADE A MAN OF AGGREGATE SIN HE WAS MADE MAN OF SIN!What part confuses you?

  • @MJontherox read psalm 118:8 do not trust man trust God yet you accept the translator as correct.PAUL tells you that JESUS is the man of sin as He carried ALL the sins yet sinned not Himself.Paul tells you who it is.Thes states in GREEK He exalts Himself above what is taught of God and declares Himself One with God.Because you REFUSE to even look at the Bible in context you buy into the lie.At the end YOU are with them that fight Christ because you think He is antichrist.

  • @allthesealsareopen "At the end YOU are with them that fight Christ because you think He is antichrist." Get a clue. None of what you say is relevant, much less correct.

    "into which a sinful and unrepentant person passes after death" Foxing? Failed.

    You've already been called a Pharisee by somebody here. I would just say ignorant. Fancy calling Jesus the son of perdition. Anti-Christ? Embrace your destiny.

  • @MJontherox you are an imbecile.Dont reply to me again.You are brain dead.You have no idea what the Bible says and you are happy being ignorant.PAUL tells YOU and you still run off at the mouth.You know it all and can never learn.You and millions of others.Dont reply.Leave me alone.You are an idiot.

  • Remember kids: Don't argue with stupid people. They'll only drag you down to their level in a vain attempt to beat you with experience.

  • @MJontherox you are a foolish piece of rubbish.Stay with the lie.One less to be in the Kingdom of God.Read it.BILLIONS DIE.You will be one of them.

  • @allthesealsareopen Oh I see.... So you and you alone makes judgment on those who do or don't see the Son of God? Even He doesn't propose to judge a person to damnation until he's dead. Who do you think you are trying to take that job on? You have to be a Saint first. Saint's actually HAVE to die in his name - for not worshiping the image of the beast or take his mark. A thief has salvation granted on the cross, while he's dying. You have no basis for your assertions.

  • @MJontherox I AM Him!You will mck and jeer now.But you do not know the Holy Scriptures not the dates in it nor the manner of return.All is in there.The LIVING Curse is here.Soon you will all know.Keep an eye on the middle east and the weather for there is your future.DONT WRITE BACK or I will curse you to hell.

  • Daniel 12: "9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days....

  • ...12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days."

    ".Keep an eye on the middle east and the weather for there is your future." Actually, Keep your eyes on Jerusalem. The weather here in my country however, doesn't bare relevance.

  • Because false prophets are everywhere You'll become like these guys:

    The 2011 Ellen G White Award for False Propheteering: Harold Camping.

    2012 1st candidate: Ralph G. Stair "2 billion people will die in 40 days, on January 28. The Anti-Christ will be made known by this time" December 19, 2011

    *Looks at his watch*

    Just the usual is it, "Brother Stair"?

  • antichrist means against or in place of christ,so look for a counterfeit messiah!

  • @MsFullheart so show us the Bible passage to support all your claims.

  • @MsFullheart What?Because I know what the Bible says.You look for an antichrist.AN ANTICHRIST.The Bible says ALL ARE ANTICHRIST THAT DENY JESUS! There is not one man who is antichrist.The MAN of SIN is spoken of by Paul who uses the term twice.It is the MAN WHO CARRIED ALL THE SIN BUT WHO HAD NO SIN!He even names Him.JESUS! Read it and apologize for what you said to me.

  • @allthesealsareopen I dont think youre real as Ive seen your channel!

  • @MsFullheart 2 John 1:7 1 John 2:22 1 John 4:3 You call me a TROLL?You arrogant know it all.Now apologise and stop spreading nonsense and learn the truth of the Scriptures.

  • @allthesealsareopen arent you an atheist/false prophet?!

  • @MsFullheart Why would you claim I am an atheist and a false prophet?Go away.Listen to the fools who tell you that the pope,pr andrew,pr chjarles,hitler and 1001 others are the ANTICHRIST!Do not believe the Bible that TELLS you that any are antichrist that deny Jesus.Why listen to the Bible when you can listen to youtubers?Me a false prophet yet the millions on internet teaching nonsense are all OK.GO AWAY!

  • @allthesealsareopen you spout nonsensical things Ive never heard the like,pr charles/andrew?! I think you are here to cause trouble,Ive come across many like you who want a reaction and only seek to attack christians thats what youre on here for!

  • @MsFullheart you are a fool.youtube is FULL of people who claim charles or the pope or someone else is antichrist.The Bible says who antichrist is and you INSULT me who shows you the Bible and defend those teaching lies.GO AWAQY AND NEVER SPEAK TO ME AGAIN.

  • @allthesealsareopen Youre the fool you know an awful lot about these claims yourself! You are assuming alot and what you write doesnt make sense its clutching at straws desparate for a response! Its really odd and its funny!

  • @allthesealsareopen Lol bro you can't be serious at all. Your the type of person that pushes people away from Christ and not towards. Your like a pharisee you don't help Christ you kill Christ. Your just a religious pharisee that is about it. Lean not on your own understanding. As a matter of fact the anti christ was not revealed in the bible as the pope or anyone else your named. Its a better chance of the islamic mahdi being the anti christ than your theories. Dont be religious be christ like.

  • @nbnf21 can you not read?I never said the Bible spoke of the pope etc.I said that all over youtube and internet PEOPLE claim that these people are the antichrist or they look to see who it can be WHEN the BIBLE TE>lls YOU WHO ANTICHRIST IS.yET YOU ALL PREFER TO LISTEN TO A LIE AND ATTACK ME when I tell you what the Bible SAYS.There is no ONE antichrist.ALL are antichrist that deny Jesus.

  • @nbnf21 search the internet and see how many people claim that the pope of bush or charles is the antichrist.It is they they say it.I TOLD YOU WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS U BRAIN DEAD TWIT!

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  • @allthesealsareopen Math 5:22 "Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Don't be digging a hole. Those verses only point out those people that deny Jesus either existing (Atheists/Pagans), or being the Son of God (like the Islamics). But if you think that Mr. 666 is a nice guy, about to embrace Jesus, you're frankly, nuts.

    Anti: "Against; opposed to" "counterfeit" works. What about Satan? Or Santa?

    And YES. IN PLACE OF. Like ANTI-CLOCKWISE.

  • @MJontherox That is about calling a BROTHER a fool.These people are not my brother.They are hypocrites.The refuse to listen to what the Bible says and prefer a lie then insult me because I tell them the truth.

  • @MsFullheart so you are shown to be wrong and yet still do not apologise?Big error.

  • @allthesealsareopen I dont want to waste my time on here with those with intent to be time wasters and who arent being genuine!

  • @MsFullheart So you prefer to listen t the millions of people who discuss the "man of sin" abomination of desolation" etc and TELL you who they are each repeating the nonsense they heard earlier INSTEAD of the truth as the Bible states?The BIBLE AGAIN THE BIBLE!!! tells you that JESUS is the MAN OF SIN BECAUSE HE WAS BURDENED WITH THE SINS OF MAN .It TELLS you THAT! Yet you accuse me of being a troll because I do not repeat nonsense.GO AWAY! Go back to the dark.

  • @allthesealsareopen some people point out the truth but you go away why are you even on here if thats how you feel about youtube!

  • @MsFullheart TRUTH?Bible tells you JESUS carried ALL SIN OF WORLD AND IS MAN OF SIN.YET YOU PREFER LIES.You are deluded and arrogant.

  • @allthesealsareopen Yawn... Bye false troll that didnt get the satisfaction of trapping mein my words or any reaction! Get a life loser!!!

  • @allthesealsareopen you assume from this video what I watch on youtube?! I dont get this but know trolls like you get off on this as you have nothing else!

  • @MsFullheart 100% correct. First thing to note: It's an image of him. A speaking image. Does that sound like a hologram to you?

  • ALL WHO CLAIM JESUS CAME IN FLESH IS ANTICHRIST!LEARN THE BIBLE!

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  • @DanWright1966 There is not ONE antichrist.

  • @DanWright1966 You do not know the Holy Bible 1 John 2 :22Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

  • @allthesealsareopen YOU ! are a numb-nut .

  • @MJontherox You have no idea who you speak to.You believe Prophets came.You believe God uses who He will.Yet you think i am a piece of rubbish to be ridiculed.You will regret what you said today.

  • @allthesealsareopen Hate all you like. Just keep digging. It's your choice to be after all.

  • @MJontherox I dont hate you paedophile.I just want justice and I will have justice.You dont know me.You know nothing of me or where I stand with God.You dont believe God speaks to people or believe that He will soon do as He said.I have seen Him paedophile and you are top of the list to be destroyed.Today you mock.In 5 years you will not laugh.For now you just lose your physical life.One week you have and one week only.Then you are no longer and not left to insult.DIE!Go to the grave

  • @allthesealsareopen "SAY that to myy face dog.I will rip your heart out"

    Such a loving Christian. Maybe Anger management may help you get that gaping chasm off your shoulder.Or you could just go on a rather unchristianlike psychotic rage to come and find me. Well, since I don't worry about crotch-grabbing fruitcakes like yourself hiding in bushes, then your diatribe is - like I said - water off a duck's back. Already forgiven. So get over it, and get over yourself.

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  • islam

  • The Christian Sabbath or Lord Day is on the first day of the week and no longer on the seventh, as this was the day of Jesus Resurrection.

    Acts 20:7

    And upon the first day of the week, when the "disciples came together to break bread", Paul preached unto them.

    Revelation 1:10

    I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day.

  • @Surfxeo jesus' death didn't change the Sabbath. Jesus kept the Sabbath even in his death. and preaching and holding communion of Sunday doesn't mean they didn't keep the Sabbath.

  • At 4:05 note how the video begins to takes a biased side to justify sabbath worship. Brain washing at it's best here.

  • This is seventh day Adventist brain washing.

  • You should keep the sabbath by the lunisolar calandar only !!! the new moon starts the month and the sabbath is not on saturday or sunday . sometime's it fall's on wensday or tuesday . this is because our Gegorian calendar is a pagan calendar, the church follows today.

  • @solvssod there were many 'sabbaths' the jews followed that surrounded sacrificial laws. the seventh day sabbath is different. the bible says that the sabbath is on the seventh day. in plain English in the ten commandments. regardless of the calender you follow, the seventh day is always going to be the seventh. that's why i know, no matter what calender i follow, the sabbath will always be in consecutive sevenths

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  • Everyone lession to Jesus in haven cause when he comes back to get his people the earth will burn, Jesus is not comeing back to tell us more okay an dont lession to someone who says there jesus an if you kill them an they come back i want all of you to no thats not jesus that the devil

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  • Jesus is the sabboth...

  • Everyday is to Lords Day ,All 7 days of the week, He deserves Glory and Honor. He created them all,AMEN.

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  • @pmoyer50 you are mind washed by stan .... islam is the most pure religion in the world if you wanna know go see the arrivals and believe me .... it will change your life

  • @xxxiraqisoulxxx : Yeah, right. Like some murderer, pedophile and rapist invents a cult and I'm going to think it's pure . . . you mean pure evil.

  • This is an outrageous and ridiculous description. Yes, indeed, heretics are the 'gates of hell'.

  • Amen

  • ...KIng of Tyre,The Man we call Antichrist,Islam calls the Mahdi.Research this phrase in the ORIGINAL Greek text of Revelation 13; 6 6 6 = Bismallah........

  • Revelation 10,written at the time that Rome was the 6th Beast states that the 7th Beast WAS and IS not.Rome CAN'T be the 7th and 8th Beasts,the Antichrist Beast is what came AFTER Rome,which is the Ottoman Empire.Revelation also says the Beast was AT THE TIME John wrote it,of course the Ottoman Empire didn't exist as such,it is the previous Beasts COMBINED!! Egypt,Assyria,Babylon,Medo-Per­sia,Greece!!!This is why the titles of Antichrist are Pharoah,the Assyrian,King of Babylon,Prince of Persia..

  • @jimmmmybrady I meant Revelation 19...clumsy fingers.

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  • @jimmmmybrady Yet there have been more Empires than this! Of course Rome is next, but that's Pagan Rome, until 538 AD, when Silverius was given statehood powers, and thus the Pope ruled for 1260 years (funny that) until 1798 when Napoleon put a halt to it. They're coming back...

    So who's after Rome? Atheistic communism... That exists currently, and will remain so until the Anti-Christ rules. But Rome has the false prophet! And what does he do? Well:

  • "he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed." And why not? He's the false prophet right? Vicar of (Anti) Christ!!

  • @MJontherox My brother,after Rome the Kingdom that ruled that area was the Ottoman Empire!!!! And now that same empire is back as the 8th Beast!!!!

  • @jimmmmybrady But they can't be. The Ottoman Empire was dissolved in 1923. Either way, the Antichrist army will have 200 million people in it, and that's not coming from that area, even under old lines. The Antichrist is the 8th Beast. Is he a Turk? I know the Ottoman empire were very much prejudiced against Christians and Jews, forcing their emigration. I can see laws enacted worldwide that are very similar... but also worse too e.g. Said Musa.

  • @MJontherox Revelation says the 7th is also the 8th!!!! That is the CURRENT Islamic nations under their Caliph or Mahdi.There are 2,000,000,000 muslims right now so a 200,000,000 man army is easily doable.

  • @jimmmmybrady Rev 17: "10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come" Rome was one of those fallen at the time of the prophecy. Why? Because the prophecy was of a vision in a future time yet to come... Yes, even though it says there are 7 kings, the eighth king is OF the original five fallen kings. Egypt, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome. Rome is the only strong looking one out of the lot of them.

  • @MJontherox No,Rome was the 6th and at the time John was writing Rome was in charge of the Biblical World.The 8th is the 7th,which comprises ALL of the previous Kingdoms.

  • @jimmmmybrady "No,Rome was the 6th and at the time John was writing Rome was in charge of the Biblical World." Careful. Rome was Head of State during Pagan reign (160 BC - 538 AD) But Fact: "Vigilius...ascended the papal chair (538 A.D.) under the military protection of Belisarius." History of the Christian Church, Vol. 3, p. 327

    And:

  • Fact The prophecy is telling us that the beast would be destroyed with the sword (sword = military) at the end of its reign of exactly 1260 years. Did this happen to Papal Rome in 1798...? YES IT DID! On February 10th Napoleon Bonaparte in that EXACT year 1798 A.D. sent his General Louis Alexandre Berthier, with his army into Rome, Italy. It is recorded...

  • "In 1798 General Berthier made his entrance into Rome, abolished the papal government, and established a secular one." -Encyclopedia Britannica 1941 edition

    After a reign of 1260 years? Funny that. It's Rome, all over:

    Rev 17 "9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth." Rome? Rome. Not saying they won't have help from the "New Ottomans" however...

  • All fear mongers want to plant fear in us all. I fear nothing not even death. Here it is 2012 and according to this video it "the chip" was supposed to have already happen to all of us. It has happen to me yet. I know it is already here but not fot the NWO. Don't live in fear. We all have to die someday anyway.

  • @Jakeman219 "All fear mongers want to plant fear in us all. I fear nothing not even death." Fear only truly manifests itself in it's purest form when you don't expect it. If you are prepared, you may even avoid trouble. That's the whole point. But to conquer your fear is to conquer death. Yet as you pointed out, death is a part of life...

  • The date of the Sabbath may have been changed by the Bishop of Rome, but circumcision was abandoned by Paul even though it was clearly taught in Scripture

  • This is done very poorly! The Pope can change the sabbath because God gave him the power to bind and loose on Earth. We keep Sunday as the Sabbath because it was his Resurrection.

  • @sgal88 are you serious??? where on earth do you get that god gave him the power to change the sabbath.. does that mean that the pope can change any other comandment aswell? have a think about what you are saying !

  • @waz00z Yes I am serious. First of all, we commemorate the Sabbath for Sunday because it was the day in which the Lord resurrected. Second, you ignorantly assume the pope can do as he pleases, which he can not. There are laws which have been abrogated from the Old Law such as the killing of children or adulterers when they commit a sin against neighbor or parent. You should really try to understand Scripture correctly, and not from some Protestant that will lead many astray. 

  • @sgal88 ok if youd like to take me up on that out in open .. no problems... firstly find for me any scriptural reference in the bible which shows the holy day is changed to sunday or that the 4th commandment does not matter... please do

  • @waz00z First of all, it was not I who took you up in the open but rather you by commenting back to my comment. Second, the Church takes ALL commandments literally. One thing Protestant always do is attack what they assume if the Church, which on the day of judgment, God will accuse you of defamation and lying. Third, every Christian knows that the most important even in history was the death of our Lord and hence his resurrection. We commemorate his resurrection by celebrating it on Sunday.

  • @waz00z Already in Isaiah 1:13, we see that God is displeased w/ the Sabbath & so after the ascencion of Our Lord we celebrate the new Sabbath on Sunday. But here are verses of the Apostles doing so. Acts 20:7 - this text shows the apostolic tradition of gathering together to celebrate the Eucharist on Sunday, the "first day of the week." Luke documents the principle worship was on Sunday because this was one of the departures from the Jewish form of worship.

  • @waz00z In 1 Cor. 16:2 - Paul instructs the Corinthians to make contributions to the churches "on the first day of the week," which is Sunday. This is because the primary day of Christian worship is Sunday. In Col. 2:16-17 - Paul teaches that the Sabbath was only a shadow of what was fulfilled in Christ, and says "let no one pass judgment any more over a Sabbath."

  • @sgal88 you first text if correct and taken in context HOWEVER you are saying giving contributions is worship??? i dont know how you can make this distinction?.... they were gathering items to give to the poor all church BUSINESS was done on the first day- the 7thday was the sabbath and was for rest.

  • @waz00z

    2nd defence- do u even know which sabbaths he is talking about here?.. he is talking about the feast of tabernacles and jubilee etc that pointed

    toward christs first coming.. not the sabbath of the 4th commandment

  • @waz00z You seem to have issue that the early Christian wanted to honor, worship God on the new day of Sabbath, on Sunday to commemorate his Resurrection, which they CAN do because they were given the power to loose and bind. If you wish to insist on your "Sabbath is Saturday" because it was ordained by God, then circumicision should be allowed, but Peter did not and killing should be allowed, but we understand that the Old Covenant Mosaic rules are abrogated.

  • @waz00z When you are in Church, you primarily give contribution when the congregation is gathered to hear the word of God, which is the Sabbath, which is on a Sunday and contribution is picked on Sundays.

  • @sgal88 INCORRECT - this is a complete assumption on your part.. giving contribution (especially in this case that you quoted) does not equal worship - they were doing church business - gathering for the poor (not paying tithe as what i assume you are thinking in a church service) no church service is mentioned here at all.

  • @waz00z You pay your tithe on a Sunday which is what we do now a days. Not only that, but your assumptions are false because no Church Father celebrated Mass, the new Sabbath on a Saturday. They knew from tradition that it was moved, changed to Sunday. So you are the one in need of correction.

  • @sgal88 I pay mine in a saturday... and what are you going on about church fathers celebrating mass??? just show me from the bible that there is any authority that it has been changed to sunday.. Pope Constantine changed it - not god .. so basically it comes down to are you going to go to church on a day that pope constantine deemed sacred .. or the one god deemed sacred.. thats basically all it comes down to.

  • @waz00z I did and I have told you the reason why. If you insist then your arguments against an atheist would be "devoid" when they ask you why you are not stoning adulteres, killing bad children etc., when all of it was mandated by God Himself.

  • @sgal88 "18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Shabbat is Jewish, not Roman, so this Gentile will keep his eyes on Jerusalem.

  • @MJontherox Maccabees et al. Blah.

  • @MJontherox There are 73 books in the Bible. That verse specifically speaks about the Book of Revelations.

  • @sgal88 Prophecy is given out in more than just Revelation. Daniel too right? Fine. Just don't try denying that there is a harlot church, and that they're responsible for the killing of millions of innocents already (Christian AND Atheist) , and that they're not done yet. Trying to defend them is a lot harder with those who know their history. Your implication that there are 73 books in the Bible is just a cute way of saying "but they have dominion to loose and bind". Nope. Only loosen.

  • They won't be bring the Church of the Body of Jesus Christ together for anything nice. Certainly not ecumenical fuzzy-wuzzies like this lot:

    wikipedia[dot]org/wiki/World_C­ouncil_of_Churches

    But that won't be for anything good! The world council of churches was founded in Geneva, Switzerland, in 1948!! Just like the UN. Funny that, eh?

  • @MJontherox Your obviously oblivious of the truth and worse of all, you accuse the Church of Jesus Christ as the harlot which will cost you big even if you are blind. Murder...try looking at the Protestant sects and see how many Catholics they killed but put that aside. You can even, if you were an atheist, a case and accuse God of killing because of sins that today's Christians do not follow. This God who was a dictator, yet you'd find that argument absurd, right?

  • @sgal88 @sgal88 "you accuse the Church of Jesus Christ as the harlot which will cost you big even if you are blind." Wouldn't hold up in a court of law I'm afraid, What did you just claim I did? Jesus is my Pastor. Not the Pope.

    "try looking at the Protestant sects and see how many Catholics they killed but put that aside." Do you mean Spanish Inquisition? French Revolution? Or Guy Fawkes? In all 3 cases you'd be the one oblivious. MILLIONS. Not a few thousand.

  • "his God who was a dictator, yet you'd find that argument absurd, right?" Know what righteousness of judgment means? That means repentance counts. Heard of Lex Fori Law? That's what the Romans used. They've gone and based the Patriot Act off of it! You want unforgiving? There you have it! It lead to Christians being ripped to bits by lions, burned at the stake, stoned, starved, or just plain slaughtered with sword/spear. All in God's name apparently. Like a Salem witchunt. Just sick.

  • So here's a news flash for you: Jesus Christ doesn't need a Vicar. Vicarius Filii Dei is a false prophet, and thankfully, nothing else. It's easy to know what to avoid when you know who's hands are dirty.

  • @MJontherox You obviously are ignorant. Jesus Christ does have a vicar. When the King is out of town, who is to hold everything together? The chosen prime minister who will maintain order until the King arrives. To say anything else is utterly foolish because it is trying to show that the King would leave the flock without a strong leader to guide us to Heaven. One can not guide themselves and the early Church didn't.

  • Vicar: (in the Church of England) "an incumbent of a parish where tithes formerly passed to a chapter or religious house or layman." God's "Money" man, eh?

    Other definitions

    (in other Anglican Churches) a member of the clergy deputizing for another.

    (in the Roman Catholic Church) a representative or deputy of a bishop.

    (in the US Episcopal Church) a clergyman in charge of a chapel.

    oxforddictionaries[dot]com/def­inition/vicar?q=vicar

  • I know you don't like being told what I've been saying to you, but I don't blame you - in fact, the more you research their history, you'll understand that's the last intention I have... That's all I can urge you to do. It's not an attack on you or your belief of Jesus, that's for sure. But don't trust in ANY church to bring you salvation. I'm a former SDA, yet it's only once I found out about them (EG White) that I left them - happily. They haven't done half of what the Romans have.

  • @MJontherox You don't have to trust a church to believe in Jesus or the Bible.

  • @diablo9333 Got it in one! And so it is ^^

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  • "I don't see you complaining about God demanding purity from his chosen people and calling for their deaths for their sins." Because it's not our place. Even God doesn't propose to judge men until they're dead! Why should you? A thief had forgiveness given to him on the cross, by Jesus himself! Certainly not by the Romans who killed them! Unrepentant sin deserves death. "These inquisition was to maintain Catholic orthodoxy which the country can rightly do." Like Said Musa, right?

  • @MJontherox God demanded the death of those who commited the act. Yet you don't see anything wrong with a country demanded purity in doctrine. Shows that you know very little of truth and how the Church accessed heresy. But you insist with the inquisition, so will I insist that Protestant are not clean on their hands and neither was God when he insisted on these things. You sound more atheistic because at least they are consistent, you are not.

  • @sgal88 Oh I see: Atheist now huh? Obviously you've been rather offended with having to openly defend the slaughter of millions of innocents (including atheists). "so will I insist that Protestant are not clean on their hands" What part of Dark Ages don't you understand yet? The Protestants didn't cause that. They were the victims of it. I'm afraid at least Atheists would bring proof with them to the table, or keep quiet. Until you do that yourself, your postulations don't matter much.

  • @MJontherox JAJAJAJAJAJ! Wow! Even a secular scholar would admit that Luther, Calvin, King Henry put Catholics to death. As for your >>Obviously you've been rather offended with having to openly defend the slaughter of millions of innocents>>...not at all. I just know when an argument become circular and obvious you know very little of Protestant history and wouldn't be able to defend God's actions to an atheist.

  • @sgal88 : Catholics put far more Protestants to death than Protestants put Catholics to death. History proves me right. Go put that up your Pope's ass.

  • @pmoyer50 You should be more prudent with your words and second, if you are a Christian, defend to me why God mandated to have ppl killed? Stoning for adultery, killing when a child disrespects parents, etc.,

  • @sgal88 Islam has no stoning punishment FACT show me any where in the Qur'an to the contrary

  • @786jihadi I was not even talking about Islam but it is not like Islam is the right religion at ALL.

  • @sgal88 Speak for yourself.

  • @MJontherox It shows that you wouldn't be able to defend why God insisted on killing yet you accuse the secular authorities who were Catholic, killing people to defend orthodoxy. You will be the sorry one for telling lies.

  • @sgal88 You're so lost. Fancy telling me that I'm an Atheist when you're trying to justify God killing somebody. He's EXACTLY right. The Papal romans DID kill more people that the Protestants ever did... but I maintain: God's love is non denominational, for love and truth do NOT DIVIDE.

    Said Musa: An Afghan born Christian threatened with death last year for being a Christian. You wouldn't know about that, would you? Where is the Catholic Church to defend him? Nowhere...

  • John 8:"7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst."

    Truth has a funny habit of getting in the way....

  • So really now, if God's love will reach ALL people (including GENTILES) Rev 7:" 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands"

    Then I don't think they CARE about denominations, instead, they CARE about the love of God. Hateful Christians will be surplus to requirements in a non-hateful environment.

  • @MJontherox False...This is the liberalism that condemns. It is various nations with one mind..that being Catholic who follow one leader, the Pope whom Christ appointed on Earth. This argument you gave is akin to saying..lets live peacefull, whether you be Buddhist, Hinduist, Protestant or Catholics. False...and btw: each denmination have their requirement in how to enter Heaven....so when the person can wisely ask..Which denomination the true Church of Jesus Christ?

  • @MJontherox Didn't Our Lord reprimand the Pharisees for not following the law of stoning children for disobedience for following their man made tradition of corban?

  • @sgal88 No he didn't. He reprimanded the Pharisees for plenty of things. But you're just a wolf in sheep's clothing. Trying to Justify the Roman Catholic Church yet bringing out arguments that only an ignorant Atheist would bring.

    "This argument you gave is akin to saying..lets live peacefull, whether you be Buddhist, Hinduist, Protestant or Catholics." Is YOUR argument. I don't think he has any denominations. Therefore, if you belong to one, then you are lost.

  • If it takes you an hour to come up with such a pathetic argument, then should I ought to have mercy upon you?

    "btw: each denmination have their requirement in how to enter Heaven..." Nope, I shouldn't. The rules for entry, and the rules for engagement are the same. "Do unto others as you would like them have done unto you." The game is over. If there ever was one. Want to deal with the Saints yet? Gentiles can be Saints ^^

    So get over it, and get over yourself.

  • @MJontherox Dude, if you are talking about my response, then you are pathetic in every way. I have other things that I like to do. Sorry that I am not stuck on the computer all day. Wow...your response of entering Heaven should have taken you an hour....so that you can think things through. You obviously know very little of other Protestant sects and their requirements to enter Heaven.

  • @sgal88 The "Protestant" church you speak of doesn't actually exist. Ignorance? You are covered with it. The non-denominations are exactly that - non-divisive - how Jesus would have liked it. "Sorry that I am not stuck on the computer all day." Don't be hating that I have the ability to answer you after 20+ hours of SILENCE! It doesn't wash. "you can think things through" is a bit late for the stubborn ones. I suggest you dig your own hole. You seem "hell-bent" on it, "Dude".

  • @MJontherox You said >>Then I don't think they CARE about denominations, instead, they CARE about the love of God.>> That is liberalism at its finest. It is akin to saying be whatever faith you want just make sure you love God and lead a good life. That is heresy and damnable and will not save because our Lord gave us commandments which we are to follow and those who do not follow them will not be saved. Only faithful Catholics will be and the rest will most likely perish.

  • @sgal88 " That is liberalism at its finest." Liar.

    "15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed." Produces SAINTS willing to STAND UP FOR GOD. Catholics won't be of that number, for the false prophet of revelation comes from the harlot church. Make sense? Possibly TOO much for the likes of you. Oh well ^^

  • "Only faithful Catholics will be and the rest will most likely perish." I laughed.

    "That is heresy and damnable and will not save because our Lord gave us commandments which we are to follow and those who do not follow them will not be saved."

    Sabbath is a Jewish custom, not Roman. Saturday is it's day. Even a GENTILE like ME, can SEE THAT, yet will TURN DOWN the SDA Church. You've got more than a bit to learn.I would say, if your "spamnation" is anything to go by...

  • @MJontherox U obviously will not incline to a higher authority. U pride urself in assuming that u can interpret Scripture for yourself when even the people in Acts said they needed guidance in interpreting Scripture. You obviously do not at of his flesh and drink of his blood which means you will NOT have life in you and you refuse to accept such teachings like that large crowd that followed him until they left him for that hard teaching. Those who reject Catholicism, rejects Jesus.

  • @MJontherox Wow...you are a liberal and since you deny Christ, Christ will deny you. 2nd, who was the one who started to debate this issue....that was you, since you have time in your disposal to do so. 3rd non-denominational..where the ignorant will teach others things contrary to each other. You are ignorant because if one interprets Scripture one way and the other another, who is right? The Church decides and is are guide. Your manner will never produce a saint but the Church has.

  • @sgal88 "Wow...you are a liberal and since you deny Christ, Christ will deny you."

    A liberal? Are you accusing me of using grace as a license to sin? Shame on you! "You are ignorant because if one interprets Scripture one way and the other another, who is right?'" The Catholics CHANGED scripture. If you can find me a SINGLE change to the Bible than what William Tinsdale via King James I of England served up, then you have a case, until then, keep your mouth shut.

  • @MJontherox Yes...because you refuse to hear the true Word of God. God gives you the grace to hear the true word. Let's say it was not me, but you heard a priest preaching on the street corner and spoke to you about the Eucharist. If you deny it, you denied the grace that God has given you akin to those who deny the preaching of Jesus. Catholics NEVER once changed Scripture and have been constant for 1500 until Luther came and poisoned all.

  • @MJontherox Wow. Having read the exchange below, I'm shocked by the amount of patently false information being traded as authentic. I have two questions: Which Church did The Holy Spirit choose and inspire in to select and compile those books and letter Christians call, "The Holy Bible"? That is to say, those men that compiled Sacred Scripture identified themselves as belonging to which specific Church?

  • @NilDesperandum777 Don't bother baiting. Bring some facts. Not opinions. The Holy Scrolls were not written in Roman. Translated to? Sure, why not? But they were Aramaic first, weren't they? Church? Didn't think the Jews were Roman.

  • @MJontherox Asking you two simple questions is "baiting"? Are you that unsure of your claims that you can't even answer questions that ask for the name of the Church that those who compiled Sacred Scriptures in!? And here's a fact for you, "Roman" isn't Latin, which is what you meant to reference, concerning "The Holy Scrolls." And no, The NT wasn't first written in Aramaic, but Greek , the lingua franca of the time period. Church? Of course. (Cont.)

  • @MJontherox (From Cont.) Jews weren't ethnically Roman, but culturally there was certainly a familiarity with Roman and Greek culture not to mention exposure and likely immersion in Latin and Greek. So now that I've provided a few facts and corrected a few of your opinions are you going to answer the simple questions posed to you or are you going to continue to offer your personal preferences as "fact" in the form of redirecting questions?

  • @NilDesperandum777 "Roman isn't Latin, which is what you meant to reference, concerning "The Holy Scrolls." No kidding. I edify the Jews first, then the Gentiles.

  • 9Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 

  • 13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.- Romans 2:9-13

    "And no, The NT wasn't first written in Aramaic, but Greek" And? If it's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but, then the BEGINNING matters most. So does the truth. We won't get into how the Sabbath comes to be worshiped on a Sunday, for I can't be bothered with.