I'm not scared of anything. I noted that LDS Inc hasn't endorsed this map, nor has the map been substantiated with anything on or in the ground. And of course it still has big problems like the isthmus of Panama not being a day's journey for a Nephite or the non-existence of a sea east and a sea west or the mountains spoken about.
And of course the geography contradicts what Horny Joe and the supposed MORONi said about who the Lamanites are and where they're from.
members of the lds church have never claimed "Magical" garments. The garments are to help with modesty they are not bullet proof in any sense, only people with poor knowledge of the church would believe and "test" such a ridiculous theory.
W Marriott: Yes,I do & I can tell you they do protect you from harm
MW: Really?
WM: Uh-huh. I was in a very serious boat accident. Fire--boat was on fire, I was on fire. I was burned....I was not burned above my knee. Where the garment was, I was not burned.
MW: And you believe it was the sacred undergarments.
WM: I do. Particularly on my legs,because my pants were gone,but my undergarments were not singed
If anybody wants to know what the LDS church is really about, if you are feeling that your life has gone off track, if you are all messed up and drugs, booze, gambling or sadness has got a grip on you. Feel free to go on mormon.org and chat with a missionary and find the nearest Chapel to where you live and what time they hold church service on Sundays and pass by, you dont have to get dressed up, they will be happy to meet you and talk to you, and your life will change for the better. :)
The claim that Mormons think garments are "magical" is a straw man argument. We simply believe they are a protection against evil, not that they are bulletproof, flame retardant, etc. This video is pretty dumb.
W Marriott: Yes,I do & I can tell you they do protect you from harm
MW: Really?
WM: Uh-huh. I was in a very serious boat accident. Fire--boat was on fire, I was on fire. I was burned. My pants were burned right off of me. I was not burned above my knee. Where the garment was, I was not burned.
MW: And you believe it was the sacred undergarments.
WM: I do. Particularly on my legs,because my pants were gone,but my undergarments were not singed
That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed with extreme prejudice. Miracles aren't miracles if they can't be empirically proved. Heavier than air flight is a miracle and can be reproduced. Pumping a flammable liquid into a horseless carriage and travelling at 75mph on a road is a miracle and can be reproduced.
Actually, the aren't miracles at all once you can scientifically explain them. Like, if I pray and my flu goes away, that's a miracle! until I can empirically show how that happened.
But your format for testing this makes no sense. If God intervened to save someone from harm, why would he do so again when you test this with no stakes?
Anyway, it's just faith. It's no longer faith if you are dealing with what's proven. I still think the undies are stupid.
Well, then you think things that aren't supernatural are miracles. Which I guess doesn't line up with how I mean the word, which is just supernatural events.
@hawkeyery Since you failed to read the description in the video. I will paste it here for you: "Paul Dunn and other morgs have claimed that magical mormon masonic underwear is bullet proof. Here this myth is busted." (my favorite part is where he say 'morgs' - so awesomely accurate)
MORmONS have tragically been killed in automobile mishaps while wearing their garments. When that happens,ome say it was "God's Will". When they survive, "The garmentsaved us"!
Same with answered prayer: "Thank you, God." Not answered: "God had different plan."
I know exactly what I'm doing and the consequences thereof IF I was wrong about mormonism. Fortunately for me, there's probably not another cult or religion in existence that is more ridiculous on its face than mormonism. It has all the problems and baggage of Christianity and then some (a lot).
Yes, mormons do believe that garments are magical. It even says so in The Initiatory where YHWH says that the garments are to be "a protection."
Mike Wallace: Do you wear the sacred undergarments?
Bill Marriott: Yes,I do & I can tell you they do protect you from harm
MW: Really?
WM: Uh-huh. I was in a very serious boat accident. Fire--boat was on fire, I was on fire. I was burned. My pants were burned right off of me. I was not burned above my knee. Where the garment was, I was not burned.
MW: And you believe it was the sacred undergarments.
WM: I do. Particularly on my legs,because my pants were gone,but my undergarments were not singed
@isthechurchtrue Psalms 85:10-11 reads "and truth shall spring out of the earth."
This verse is directly referring to the book of MORMON, as it doens't mean could be some evangelical nutjob like you, because you are part of the unbelievers of Babylon.
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ....
All religions have their beliefs. That's what religions are about. But a video of a guy shooting at a piece of clothe tells me more of his mental problems.
@katoman76 Why?He is actually testing bulletproof clothing.That's what you would expect to happen when someone makes such a claim.If they said-''our underwear is invinsible,you would ask your girlfriend to wear it and wait if it'll disappear in front of your eyes,don't you?:)
@LDS4Life71 what is the truth what is the truth you are applying to? if there is a truth there is a lie. there is always a truth and a lie to something. what is the truth?
Really? Where are the GPS coordinates of Zarahemla? Where can I find a Lamanite middle eastern DNA in these latter days? Aren't they supposed to be blossoming as the rose as Horny Joe said?
@fubecabr There is a google earth map of the book of Mormon lands. I already know you are afraid to look. So I guess Abraham and Isaac, and Jacob, and the entire bible were not horny? Your fauty thinking only proves you do not know the God of the bible, and that evangelicals are accusing God of being a liar. congratz. Too bad one of those bullets didn't ricochet and hit you in your head. such a a waste.
Use circular reasoning much? We don't even know that Abraham, Issac, and Jacob were even real people. Even if they were, I don't subscribe to Jewish Racial Supremacism. But yes, a lot of men today and in antiquity were quite horny.
Mormons accuse their own god of being a liar. Their god's supposed mouthpiece said that polygamy was REQUIRED for exultation and that polygamy would be everlasting. They also believe that their own god is impotent, see OD-1 in the D&C.
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthristy ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
Ricocheting bullets rarely kill anyone. Thanks for showing the true character of a cult zealot.
Also, there's a big difference between the open polygamy in the bible and the secret polygamy, polyandry, and adultery practiced by Horny Joe and Bang 'em Young.
@fubecabr Just another example that you don't even know the God of the bible. LoL stop preaching that abraham, Isaac and Jacob are in Heaven with God while you're at it, hypocrit.
I know about the god of the old testament very well because I've actually read the bible. You apparently haven't because you don't remember the genocide, murder, rape, pillaging, infanticide, animal cruelty, etc.
What am I hypocritical about???
What was so prophetic about Horny Joe? AGAIN, where can I find a single Lamanite with middle eastern DNA, in these latter days? AGAIN, aren't they supposed to be "blossoming as the rose?"
Apparently you're so stupid that you don't even know what the word 'hypocritical' means. You also resort to circular reasoning.
Hypocrisy:
"a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess"
I have zero religious beliefs or principles. The US Congress does have authority over the imaginary god of mormons because it threatened to destroy LDS Inc and LDS Inc CAVED to its threats. Read OD-1.
You want to know the CORRECT use of hypocrite? You are a hypocrite because you claim to believe in the bible, yet you aren't out KILLING gays, disobediant children, atheists, pagans, and gentiles. You claim to believe in the mormon profits, but you don't practice polygamy.
@fubecabr I don't have to, because it's not my place. It says "thou shalt not kill. So I follow the bible just fine thank you very much. You are the hypocrit. The LORD God will practice poligamy when He returns. And you will be a joke just like you are now.
@fubecabr Poligamy laws in the USA have been in effect for only just over 100 years and you think that will superscede what the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob? This is what makes you a liar and a hypocrit. You deny the words of the prophets, and think you can use modern thinking of man to do your dirty work.
Actually local and state anti-bigamy laws have been around for much longer than 100 years. At the Federal level, it was banned in 1862. Monogamy has always been the norm in all western societies dating back to before the Roman Empire.
Yes, the laws of men do supercede the imaginary friends of Mormons and Jews. I'm glad you brought this up because this is an instance of the IMPOTENCE of the mormon doG. He's a pussy and backed down in reaction to the US Govt.
Actually, the mormon doG, through his supposed mouthpiece, Horny Joe, repeatedly referred to all Native Americans as Lamanites in his speeches and in the D&C. MORONi said that the BoM was "an account of the former inhabitants of this continent, and the source from whence they sprang. He also said that the fulness of the everlasting Gospel was contained in it"
He didn't say a small area in Central America. He said CONTINENT.
Faith? You mean delusion? You can't have faith in disproved things. Mormons believe in disproved things, like *Hebrew* Native Americans, creationism, a young Earth, etc. They're just as delusional as people who believe the Earth is flat or hollow.
@fubecabr I agree with you but as we can see everywhere around us,some people still have faith in disproved things,because some people are too scared to accept reality as it is.Those people will believe in ANYTHING what makes them feel better and more important.And they'll keep on pushing that crap on us and call us ''closed minded'':)
thank you for standing up but there is no way they will listen. it's just like the stories in the scriptures. they'll soon learn. it's better to let them win the battle when we win the war in the end.
Morg garments have the symbols of freemasonry on them-the compass, square, and ruler. Inside the Morg temples, you get secret masonic handshakes and the whole place is chock full of masonic symbols and imagery, ripped off from the Masons.
All endowed mormons wear garments or are supposed to wear them. Since you're only 14, you've never been endowed and there's no lessons on garments in the curriculum for kids your age.
GO ahead and make fun of us. We don´t care. A lot of people are getting familiar to mormon church thanks to you, some of them will join us and be happy. I feel disgusted at your lack of respect.
You don't care, yet you're making comments on my video? Most people are already familiar with the Morg and and want nothing to do with it. Very few people are joining and a lot are leaving. The CUNY Religious Self Identification Survey shows that LDS Inc inflates its membership by 100% in the US and that it's growing SLOWER than population growth, which is bad considering the fertility rate for mormons.
The Census of Brazil, Mexico, and Chile show membership inflation of 400%!!!!!!!
Your total lack of respect for our beliefs sickens me... That underwear is not magical... Yet is SACRED to us... This video is disrespectful and full of hate.
Does LDS Inc respect other religions and beliefs? Have you not ever read the D&C, PGP, and BoM which all say that ALL other religions and beliefs are abominations, whores, church of the devil, etc? The Catholic Church in particular is singled out as the mother of all abominations. Until 1990, the temple endowment mocked protestant preachers and portrayed them as hirelings of Satan.
"Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth."
The titles "Church of the Devil" and "Great and Abominable Church" are used to identify all churches or organizations of whatever name or nature--whether political, philosophical, educational, economic, social, fraternal, civic, or religious-- which are designed to take men on a course that leads away from God and his laws and thus from salvation in the kingdom of God. Bruce R Mcconkie
Which you believe is ALL other churches, religions, and philosophies. Why should anyone give you any special respect or deference when you give none to others?
For mormons it's not enough to believe/follow "Christ" as other teach/preach it. You MUST join the Morg, get the magical masonic handshakes, pay 10% tithing, wear the magical masonic underwear, and worship Jesus Smith. Even Hinkcley said that mormons worship a different Christ than the silly Christians.
@fubecabr Theres nothing masonic about the lds temple, and i am a mason too! And the only Jesus we follow is Jesus Christ! and we all worship the same jesus
If you're not part of the Scottish Rite, then you won't see many similarities. The Morg temple uses the Scottish Rite's masonic handshakes and symbols.
Hinckley responding to a question whether mormons believe in the “traditional Christ,” stated:
"No I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the dispensation of the fullness of times.".
@fubecabr What he meant was that Jesus has revealed more to us, then other churches but its the same jesus! and yes there are some similarities but their means mean different things
@jonnygotz2343 I think you better rephrase this. Most of the LDS is masonic in origin and character. From the room setup, to the pristhood tokens, to the symbols on the garments.
Example 1: 2 Nephi 5: 21- 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
Can you explain why the Mormon bible has the curse of Cain (why black people are cursed) and the regular bible (the one written thousands of years before) doesnt?
@ErikandAndreea Not so; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over",[3] and God "set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him" (Gen. 4:15).
The split between the Northern and Southern Baptist organizations arose over slavery and the education of slaves. At the time of the split, the Southern Baptist group used the curse of Cain as a justification for the practice. In fact, most 19th and early 20th century Southern Baptist congregations in the southern United States taught that there were two separate heavens; one for blacks, and one for whites
@jonnygotz2343 The didn't read their bible, like Acts 8:27, where the Ethiopian Eunuch of Queen Candide was baptized on the side of the road in some simple water. In Mormonism no Black guy is getting anything much less a baptism and certainly not on the side of the road. You need a vast bureaucracy for baptism in Mormonism. Also, I bought some MoJo undies on ebay and I'm looking forward to testing them with a 12gauge..... hopefully with a faithful Morg ensconced inside them.
The curse of Cain is mythical but it does explain a lot about blacks. They certainly seem cursed since sub-Saharan Africans have 65-70 IQs and not third world countries but "forth world." Black countries are the absolute worst on the planet. They make places like Guatemala look like Disneyland
Countries are the way they are because of the people. It's NOT an accident that the US, Canada, Japan, Korea, Australia, UK, France, Germany, or Israel are great places to live..
The curse of Cain is mythical but it does explain a lot about blacks. They certainly seem cursed since sub-Saharan Africans have 65-70 IQs and not third world countries but "forth world." Black countries are the absolute worst on the planet. They make places like Guatemala look like Disneyland
Countries are the way they are because of the people. It's NOT an accident that the US, Canada, Japan, Korea, Australia, UK, France, Germany, or Israel are great places to live..
"What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground. Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth." (Gen. 4:10–12)
YHWH also "set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him" (Gen. 4:15).
@fubecabr Theres nothing masonic about the lds temple, and i am a mason too! And the only Jesus we follow is Jesus Christ! and we all worship the same jesus
Any church or organization of any kind whatever which satisfies the innate religious longings of man and keeps him from coming to the saving truths of Christ and his gospel is therefore not of God.- Bruce r Mcconkie
You can go look at LDS Inc's own statistics and see that convert baptisms peaked in 1989 and the number of missionaries peaked in the early 2000s. The baptisms per missionary has declined by about half since the 80s too.
It's pretty pathetic actually. After 181 years, the mormon dog has only managed to fool 0.007% of the world's population. It's still really just a Rocky Mountain cult with a few outposts in Latin America. Europe, Asia, and Africa want nothing to do with it.
Yes, they're symbolic. They have the masonic symbols of the compass, square, and ruler on them. I bought these garments at the LDS Distribution Center off University Parkway in Orem right next to Deseret Crook and Barnes and Noble.
The original temple garments were crotchless and had holes over the nipples. Joseph Smith was a psycho pervert. I'm reading out of my hat the words of god -F#CK U
I'm no longer Mormon, but was raised in the Church and now that I am out, I see ALL religion in the same vein...........we can make fun of them all if we want, but some idiots choose to waste their time writing lies about just one.................get a life.
And yet I'm not the one wearing silly magical masonic underwear, getting extorted out of 10% of my income to build MALLS, nor am I doing the hossana hokey pokey with green aprons and baker's caps learning the secret handshakes in order to get into the mormon god's secret clubhouse.
@fubecabr No, you're just disrespecting a group of very nice people who have never done anything to hurt me or anyone else. I couldn't care if you believe what Mormon's believe. Respect nice people man.
Since when does mormonism respect other cults, religions, and philosophies? It has 3 books of scripture that label ALL others as "church of the devil...whores...all corrupt...abominations, etc. The Catholic Church in particular is singled out and called the Great and Abominable Church.
And yes, Mormonism does hurt people. It hurt me. It hurts is members, and drives many of them to kill themselves, especially if they're gay. UT is #1 in depression and #7 in suicide.
@fubecabr So, because a few people claim (mostly outside the church) that its the catholic faith they talk about... it means all mormons are evil. Great connection. So there we go, it hurt you, and now you lash back. Cry more. Idk, I've never had a problem with Mormons. They've always been nice to me so I respect them.
Mormon cult leaders made it clear that The Great and Abominable Church is the Catholic Church. Doesn't matter, other passages like JS-H 1:19 are just as offensive, "for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt."
When did I say that Mormons are evil? Do you understand the difference between Mormonism and Mormons?
Ok, fine. Here's the rest of the verse, "they [ALL churches and their preachers] draw near to me with their lips, but their ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
@fubecabr And thats why you'll always hear a true mormon profess that all other churches have partial truth, but not the wholeness of the gospel. Never once will you hear during a mormon sacrament meeting, them bash on other religions. While most christian churches I've attended, half their sermon is directed on attacking other religions. I'm sorry, but that's not why I go to church, I go to church to further my relationship with god.
@settyplum Except it wasn't. It was founded on the idea that all other held a partial of the gospel, while the LDS church has the fullness. But there's no arguing with people who are so close minded and wrapped up in their own ideas, so I'm now cleansing myself of this entire comment page.
I was wondering if you could do a review of that XD! Would you say that the knock down power vs those clothes is adequate and the one handed accuracy is good?
Just like the rest of many others, sir you are foolish. Perhaps have never read your bible. Now whether or not you were doing this for your enjoyment or the enjoyment of other, remember this; there is a GOD in Heaven, and you will be judged accordingly.
Oh, I've read the bible and I have come to the conclusion that it's total Jewish Racial Supremacist hogwash. It's contemptible and ridiculous on so many levels. Just about everything in the Genesis and Exodus have been disproved. And then there's the genocide, rape, murder, pillaging, infanticide, animal cruelty, slavery, torture, etc that easily make it the most disgusting piece of fiction ever written.
Yeah.. its fabric. It's the "Arm of God" meaning you have to wear it and be worth of the temple and covenants you made to have you be safe. Besides, the person who put this on is just going to be rude and say something horrible about this comment so I guess you, my friend, will never understand. Oh, one more thing, they are not "Masonic underwear" to be a Mason has nothing to do with the LDS religion, but I expect that you are going to say "Well Joseph Smith was a Mason, right?"... Right?
Yes, they are Masonic underwear because they have the symbols of masonry-the compass, square, and ruler, on them. Horny Joe, the founder of Mormonism, was a Mason and ripped off the masonic rituals in making up the endowment. They have the same secret handshakes and passwords too. When Horny Joe was being murdered, he even made the Masonic distress call in a lame attempt to save his sorry ass.
@yourfacesucksnuts Joseph smith was a manson. Arm of God? you have to be worth of the temple? so what happened to Jesus? when the veil was ripped and we have free entrance to the presence of God. And Idon't wear this I'm not worth it? lol. my savior made that way for me. HIs the way, his blood cleaned me, his the savior, his truth has set me free, his the truth, no temple, no covenants no nothing, Jesus is the way the truth and the life.
@yourfacesucksnutsThe doctrine that God was once a man and has progressed to become a God is unique to this Church. How do you feel, knowing that God, through His own experience, "knows all that we know regarding the toils [and] sufferings" of mortality? (p. 34) We receive these truths, and go on from glory to glory, . . . gaining a knowledge of all things, and becoming Gods, even Sons of God. (p. 55) Now those men, or those women, who know no more about the power of God,
@yourfacesucksnuts the influences of the Holy Spirit, than to be led entirely by another person, suspending their own understanding, and pinning their faith upon another's sleeve, . . . will never be capable of becoming Gods. They cannot rule themselves, to say nothing of ruling others, . . . They never can become Gods, nor be crowned as rulers with glory, immortality, and eternal lives. (p. 288) your doctrine is a joke.
@yourfacesucksnuts Message body"the curse" was preserved through the Egyptians (Abraham 1:21) Joseph Smith claimed to be from the tribe of Ephrain, son Joseph who married and had children with his Egyptian wife (Gen 41:50-52). So according to the Book of Abraham, Jospeph Smith would be ineligible to hold the Mormon priesthood!
Tragically, a Moron family died in a vehicle collision. Presumably father and mother were wearing their garments. Oh, I think a son survived.
In Utah a Moron brother and sister were driving their parent's SUV on the Interstate. At 55 mph they unfastened their seat-belts to change places. The SUV rolled andaughter killed. It is believed they were wearing their garments.
ALL religions are man-made myth, fairytales, and superstation. Not just LD$.
I think in order to disprove this theory, you would need to shoot the gun at the underwear while someone is actually WEARING THE FREAKING THINGS YOU IDIOT!!!
The Mormons hate Christians, the Mormons constantly steal BABIES away from young girls for little money and SELL the Babies as an Adoption scheme where fathers have no parental rights. Mormons are Occult and Evil-if you vote for Mit Romney-you are opposed to God.
Yestraumatized. I expected to learn a "higher order" of love and live. Instead, I saw Satan rail at Christian ministers, then I learned some silly secret handshakes for with gruesome consequences if I told anyone. No one & noone prepared me for the instant of decision between marriage and family and placing death curses on myself. Mormon's covenants have changed. The covenants of Eden, Adam, Noah, Moses, David and Yeshua remain unchange.. If it needed changing, it must have been wrong.
Well, as a Mormon I can tell you that this is bunk! The Garments are a one piece and not two separate "tops and bottoms" as shown here. BUT lets just entertain this nut job for a second and say the were actually Endowment Garments. You have to hold a Temple recommend to buy them and once they have served their owner they are burned. I can tell you for a fact that these were not a member's garments... And they are not magical in any way. The blind leading the blind if you believe this crap.
Oh my doG, you really are clueless. There is a one piece version and a two piece version of the garments. You've obviously never been endowed or stepped foot into a Morg Distribution Center where garments are sold.You should go ask an ENDOWED mormon if there's two piece garments instead of spouting your ignorant mouth off about things you have no clue over.
Theoretically you need a temple recommend to buy them, but they never checked mine even one time when I was mormon.
@RippR101 I am not here to argue with a fellow Latter Day Saint. However when is the last time you purchased garments? 1960's? While it is true many of the older generation where the one piece I don't have one friend who does. I am wearing garments right now and they do indeed have them in seperate tops and bottoms.
@methodtraining Mormon forefathers bore their testimonies for a different set of doctrines that are now said to be false by the current LDS church.Some of these doctrines were: 6ft tall Quakers on the moon, Adam as God, polygamy is essential to salvation, blacks will be denied the priesthood until the second comming of Christ, death oaths and blood atonment. If your forefathers testimonies can't be trusted, what makes you so sure yours can be trusted? What makes you better then them?
@endofus "What makes me better then them?" What in the world are you talking about? I made a comment to a man regarding the updating of Garments. You want to argue, debate or discuss with someone I am sure you can find plenty who will take you up on that. Have fun.
Jude 18-19"How that they told you that there would be mockers in the last time, who should walk after there own ungodly lusts. These be they who seperate themselves, sensual, having not the spirit"...Jude 22-23" And of some have compassion, making a difference: And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the Garment spotted by the flesh."
Whether the garments are bullet proof or not, it is unthoughtful and careless to mock the very personal things we cherish.
Use circular reasoning much? Why do you quote from the bible to make your point to an atheist? You might as well quote from the silly Koran.
Mormons mock and disrespect other cults and religion as a matter of official policy. Have you not ever read you own damn scriptures? Did you miss the parts about calling ALL other cults and religions; abominations, whores, apostate, church of the devil, etc?
@fubecabr You really do twist the word of God here to suit your own ends. Just because you don't believe and turn away from the truth does not mean you will not be held accountable on judgement day. Return to God at any time and he will receive you as if you never left.
Mormonism is quite possibly the world's most easily disproved cult or religion. I don't know of any more ridiculous than mormonism. Seriously, every claim that LDS Inc has made has been proved false.You might as well believe that the world is flat or hollow. You are just as delusional as those folks.
Like I said before. I'm only 14, I don't have all the answers. And I'm using my freaking iPhone my grammar is not gonna b the best. My mon is that smart. She was two grades ahead of everybody. Graduated valedictorian of her high school. She was in cheer volleyball and student council. My mom was smarter an knew more and had more faith than u ever will so u can just shut up about y mom bcause she is above u.
You should still double tap to be sure.
Jerricho68 3 days ago
You may find the map under Lehi's Library website. again I know you are too scared to look.
the map is complete showing the book of Mormon lands. I have it on my comments on my page.
LDS4Life71 4 weeks ago
@LDS4Life71
I'm not scared of anything. I noted that LDS Inc hasn't endorsed this map, nor has the map been substantiated with anything on or in the ground. And of course it still has big problems like the isthmus of Panama not being a day's journey for a Nephite or the non-existence of a sea east and a sea west or the mountains spoken about.
And of course the geography contradicts what Horny Joe and the supposed MORONi said about who the Lamanites are and where they're from.
fubecabr 4 weeks ago
They are "magic bulletproof" in a sense as in resisting temptations.
Gulleplutten987 1 month ago
members of the lds church have never claimed "Magical" garments. The garments are to help with modesty they are not bullet proof in any sense, only people with poor knowledge of the church would believe and "test" such a ridiculous theory.
CharlieD9911 1 month ago
M Wallace: Do you wear the sacred undergarments?
W Marriott: Yes,I do & I can tell you they do protect you from harm
MW: Really?
WM: Uh-huh. I was in a very serious boat accident. Fire--boat was on fire, I was on fire. I was burned....I was not burned above my knee. Where the garment was, I was not burned.
MW: And you believe it was the sacred undergarments.
WM: I do. Particularly on my legs,because my pants were gone,but my undergarments were not singed
fubecabr 1 month ago
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If anybody wants to know what the LDS church is really about, if you are feeling that your life has gone off track, if you are all messed up and drugs, booze, gambling or sadness has got a grip on you. Feel free to go on mormon.org and chat with a missionary and find the nearest Chapel to where you live and what time they hold church service on Sundays and pass by, you dont have to get dressed up, they will be happy to meet you and talk to you, and your life will change for the better. :)
Robyshileileh 1 month ago
you are a crazy man and very stupid. shots at a walk to clothes....
sofiavgo 1 month ago
Not worth to comment :)
NGG1012 1 month ago
"burn burn yes ya gonna burn" RATM
homerstyle34 2 months ago
The claim that Mormons think garments are "magical" is a straw man argument. We simply believe they are a protection against evil, not that they are bulletproof, flame retardant, etc. This video is pretty dumb.
hawkeyery 2 months ago
M Wallace: Do you wear the sacred undergarments?
W Marriott: Yes,I do & I can tell you they do protect you from harm
MW: Really?
WM: Uh-huh. I was in a very serious boat accident. Fire--boat was on fire, I was on fire. I was burned. My pants were burned right off of me. I was not burned above my knee. Where the garment was, I was not burned.
MW: And you believe it was the sacred undergarments.
WM: I do. Particularly on my legs,because my pants were gone,but my undergarments were not singed
fubecabr 2 months ago
@fubecabr
That's not saying the underwear is always bulletproof. Maybe it just works when God chooses to perform a miracle via the magic undies?
I admit, I find this underwear to be absurd, but a lot of people believe in miracles... you can't disprove them by recreating the event.
DTownzz 2 months ago
@DTownzz
That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed with extreme prejudice. Miracles aren't miracles if they can't be empirically proved. Heavier than air flight is a miracle and can be reproduced. Pumping a flammable liquid into a horseless carriage and travelling at 75mph on a road is a miracle and can be reproduced.
fubecabr 2 months ago
@fubecabr
Actually, the aren't miracles at all once you can scientifically explain them. Like, if I pray and my flu goes away, that's a miracle! until I can empirically show how that happened.
But your format for testing this makes no sense. If God intervened to save someone from harm, why would he do so again when you test this with no stakes?
Anyway, it's just faith. It's no longer faith if you are dealing with what's proven. I still think the undies are stupid.
DTownzz 2 months ago
@DTownzz I think everything counts has a miracle, doesn't matter if you know how it works.
WonderfulAkari 2 months ago
@WonderfulAkari
Well, then you think things that aren't supernatural are miracles. Which I guess doesn't line up with how I mean the word, which is just supernatural events.
DTownzz 2 months ago
@hawkeyery Since you failed to read the description in the video. I will paste it here for you: "Paul Dunn and other morgs have claimed that magical mormon masonic underwear is bullet proof. Here this myth is busted." (my favorite part is where he say 'morgs' - so awesomely accurate)
windigo77 2 months ago
The LDS wear garments for the same reason why Jews get circumcised. (Yeah I know non-Jews do it too for health reasons)
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@WonderfulAkari
I would say they're different, but similar in some ways. Infant circumcision is barbaric and should be outlawed.
fubecabr 2 months ago
@fubecabr Many people do it to lower chances of infection.
WonderfulAkari 2 months ago
@WonderfulAkari
If it imparted a survival advantage, that trait would have been selected through natural selection.
fubecabr 2 months ago
@fubecabr I'm not going to fight that point, all I wanted was to draw and example that someone else could understand.
WonderfulAkari 2 months ago
MORmONS have tragically been killed in automobile mishaps while wearing their garments. When that happens,ome say it was "God's Will". When they survive, "The garmentsaved us"!
Same with answered prayer: "Thank you, God." Not answered: "God had different plan."
robertgift 2 months ago
@robertgift What's wrong with that? It's just an assumption that God wants what is best for us.
hawkeyery 2 months ago
Well done!
thebryghtidea 2 months ago
lol!!! typical anti mormon who is simply not realizing what he's doing. we never said our garments were magical and bullet proof buddy! sad.....
TheLees10 2 months ago 3
@TheLees10
I know exactly what I'm doing and the consequences thereof IF I was wrong about mormonism. Fortunately for me, there's probably not another cult or religion in existence that is more ridiculous on its face than mormonism. It has all the problems and baggage of Christianity and then some (a lot).
Yes, mormons do believe that garments are magical. It even says so in The Initiatory where YHWH says that the garments are to be "a protection."
fubecabr 2 months ago 2
Mike Wallace: Do you wear the sacred undergarments?
Bill Marriott: Yes,I do & I can tell you they do protect you from harm
MW: Really?
WM: Uh-huh. I was in a very serious boat accident. Fire--boat was on fire, I was on fire. I was burned. My pants were burned right off of me. I was not burned above my knee. Where the garment was, I was not burned.
MW: And you believe it was the sacred undergarments.
WM: I do. Particularly on my legs,because my pants were gone,but my undergarments were not singed
isthechurchtrue 2 months ago
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@isthechurchtrue Psalms 85:10-11 reads "and truth shall spring out of the earth."
This verse is directly referring to the book of MORMON, as it doens't mean could be some evangelical nutjob like you, because you are part of the unbelievers of Babylon.
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ....
You got NOTHING.
FAIRLDS.org
bmaf.org
for the truth
LDS4Life71 2 months ago
You should be with that post and shoot yourself
elerelya 3 months ago
They're not designed to protect the soil. Only the worthy wearer is protected.
ericonline73 3 months ago
hmm ok i don`t believe what i am seeing, we don`t believe the garments are blot proof. LOL WOW
mollybabygirl1 3 months ago
Fuck this.....Im sending mine back for a refund.
VajinalBloodFart 3 months ago
@VajinalBloodFart This guys is NOT a christian, and a huge liar. Fubecabr is a LIAR!
LDS4Life71 3 months ago
@LDS4Life71
When did I claim to Christian? What have I lied about?
fubecabr 1 month ago
All religions have their beliefs. That's what religions are about. But a video of a guy shooting at a piece of clothe tells me more of his mental problems.
katoman76 3 months ago 8
@katoman76 Why?He is actually testing bulletproof clothing.That's what you would expect to happen when someone makes such a claim.If they said-''our underwear is invinsible,you would ask your girlfriend to wear it and wait if it'll disappear in front of your eyes,don't you?:)
phillozoph50 2 months ago
@phillozoph50 Your explanation makes it even worse. Thank you.
katoman76 2 months ago
wtf i am reading the comments and half of them dont make sense... do i have to become a mormon to understand this?
ratheadpoop 3 months ago
@ratheadpoop YOU need to read the book of Mormon to understand the truth.
LDS4Life71 3 months ago
@LDS4Life71 what is the truth what is the truth you are applying to? if there is a truth there is a lie. there is always a truth and a lie to something. what is the truth?
ratheadpoop 3 months ago
@LDS4Life71
What truth? Where can I find a living, breathing, Lamanite in these latter days? Where can I see any secular Nephite writings or artifacts?
fubecabr 1 month ago
@fubecabr The lands of the book of Mormon are proven and you got nothing. Central america was lamanite country. how retarded can you be?
LDS4Life71 4 weeks ago
@LDS4Life71
Really? Where are the GPS coordinates of Zarahemla? Where can I find a Lamanite middle eastern DNA in these latter days? Aren't they supposed to be blossoming as the rose as Horny Joe said?
fubecabr 4 weeks ago
@fubecabr There is a google earth map of the book of Mormon lands. I already know you are afraid to look. So I guess Abraham and Isaac, and Jacob, and the entire bible were not horny? Your fauty thinking only proves you do not know the God of the bible, and that evangelicals are accusing God of being a liar. congratz. Too bad one of those bullets didn't ricochet and hit you in your head. such a a waste.
LDS4Life71 4 weeks ago
@LDS4Life71
Use circular reasoning much? We don't even know that Abraham, Issac, and Jacob were even real people. Even if they were, I don't subscribe to Jewish Racial Supremacism. But yes, a lot of men today and in antiquity were quite horny.
Mormons accuse their own god of being a liar. Their god's supposed mouthpiece said that polygamy was REQUIRED for exultation and that polygamy would be everlasting. They also believe that their own god is impotent, see OD-1 in the D&C.
fubecabr 4 weeks ago
@LDS4Life71
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthristy ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
Ricocheting bullets rarely kill anyone. Thanks for showing the true character of a cult zealot.
fubecabr 4 weeks ago
@LDS4Life71
Also, there's a big difference between the open polygamy in the bible and the secret polygamy, polyandry, and adultery practiced by Horny Joe and Bang 'em Young.
fubecabr 4 weeks ago
@fubecabr Just another example that you don't even know the God of the bible. LoL stop preaching that abraham, Isaac and Jacob are in Heaven with God while you're at it, hypocrit.
joseph Smith was a true prophet of God, MORON!
LDS4Life71 3 weeks ago
@LDS4Life71
I know about the god of the old testament very well because I've actually read the bible. You apparently haven't because you don't remember the genocide, murder, rape, pillaging, infanticide, animal cruelty, etc.
What am I hypocritical about???
What was so prophetic about Horny Joe? AGAIN, where can I find a single Lamanite with middle eastern DNA, in these latter days? AGAIN, aren't they supposed to be "blossoming as the rose?"
fubecabr 3 weeks ago
@fubecabr You are hypocritical, because you think that US congress has authority over God and they do NOT.
LDS4Life71 3 weeks ago
@LDS4Life71
Apparently you're so stupid that you don't even know what the word 'hypocritical' means. You also resort to circular reasoning.
Hypocrisy:
"a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess"
I have zero religious beliefs or principles. The US Congress does have authority over the imaginary god of mormons because it threatened to destroy LDS Inc and LDS Inc CAVED to its threats. Read OD-1.
fubecabr 3 weeks ago
@LDS4Life71
You want to know the CORRECT use of hypocrite? You are a hypocrite because you claim to believe in the bible, yet you aren't out KILLING gays, disobediant children, atheists, pagans, and gentiles. You claim to believe in the mormon profits, but you don't practice polygamy.
You sir, are the hypocrite.
fubecabr 3 weeks ago
@fubecabr I don't have to, because it's not my place. It says "thou shalt not kill. So I follow the bible just fine thank you very much. You are the hypocrit. The LORD God will practice poligamy when He returns. And you will be a joke just like you are now.
LDS4Life71 3 weeks ago
@fubecabr Poligamy laws in the USA have been in effect for only just over 100 years and you think that will superscede what the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob? This is what makes you a liar and a hypocrit. You deny the words of the prophets, and think you can use modern thinking of man to do your dirty work.
LDS4Life71 3 weeks ago
@LDS4Life71
Actually local and state anti-bigamy laws have been around for much longer than 100 years. At the Federal level, it was banned in 1862. Monogamy has always been the norm in all western societies dating back to before the Roman Empire.
Yes, the laws of men do supercede the imaginary friends of Mormons and Jews. I'm glad you brought this up because this is an instance of the IMPOTENCE of the mormon doG. He's a pussy and backed down in reaction to the US Govt.
fubecabr 3 weeks ago
@fubecabr damn shame one of those bullets didn't ricochet and hit you in the head, really YOU hypocrit.
LDS4Life71 3 weeks ago
@LDS4Life71
Actually, the mormon doG, through his supposed mouthpiece, Horny Joe, repeatedly referred to all Native Americans as Lamanites in his speeches and in the D&C. MORONi said that the BoM was "an account of the former inhabitants of this continent, and the source from whence they sprang. He also said that the fulness of the everlasting Gospel was contained in it"
He didn't say a small area in Central America. He said CONTINENT.
fubecabr 4 weeks ago
...I don't know, I'd say the third last bullet didn't get through!
dustymiller65 3 months ago
i never heard it was bullet proof.....i did however hear they are not that comfortable.
gowill2 3 months ago
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@gowill2 they are quite comfortable.
LDS4Life71 3 months ago
you used silver bullets and everyone knows that they are defenseless. this was completely unfair.
TheBubbleboy35 3 months ago
very stupid guy... and very stupid video... ajajajja...
encantadora77 3 months ago
You need to ask some mormon to wear it before testing:)Otherwise,factor of faith is missing here.
phillozoph50 3 months ago 7
@phillozoph50 Better yet ask Westboro Baptist Church member to ware them for the bullet proof test.
wiccanmoonman 3 months ago
@phillozoph50
Faith? You mean delusion? You can't have faith in disproved things. Mormons believe in disproved things, like *Hebrew* Native Americans, creationism, a young Earth, etc. They're just as delusional as people who believe the Earth is flat or hollow.
fubecabr 2 months ago 4
@fubecabr I agree with you but as we can see everywhere around us,some people still have faith in disproved things,because some people are too scared to accept reality as it is.Those people will believe in ANYTHING what makes them feel better and more important.And they'll keep on pushing that crap on us and call us ''closed minded'':)
phillozoph50 2 months ago
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@phillozoph50 Truth hurts don't it?
cardarinc 2 months ago
@fubecabr What's funny is the VERY FIRST shot you fired was a MISFIRE so indeed it was bulletproof :P
cardarinc 2 months ago
Damn shame one of the bullets didn't bounce back and nail him in the head.
LDS4Life71 3 months ago
@LDS4Life71 well thats a terrible thing to say....
gowill2 3 months ago
@gowill2 no it's really qute satisfying to the jerk that I have spoken with more than once is a complete jerk.
LDS4Life71 3 months ago
@gowill2 see you anti mormons in hell!
LDS4Life71 3 months ago
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL fucking halarious
glaramir 3 months ago
Too bad one of those bullets didn't ricochet and hit the video maker in the head!
LDS4Life71 4 months ago
@LDS4Life71Wow! Thats such a "Christ-Like" thing to say. Way to promote Mormonism
mennastar 3 months ago
@LDS4Life71
thank you for standing up but there is no way they will listen. it's just like the stories in the scriptures. they'll soon learn. it's better to let them win the battle when we win the war in the end.
legallyblonde921 3 months ago
There's poop stains on those too
timbo006507 4 months ago
magical mormon masonic underwear? I'm a mormon and I don't even know what the hell this is.
Anbidas125 4 months ago
@Anbidas125
Morg garments have the symbols of freemasonry on them-the compass, square, and ruler. Inside the Morg temples, you get secret masonic handshakes and the whole place is chock full of masonic symbols and imagery, ripped off from the Masons.
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr hmm, interesting. But I really don't give a care. I don't ever see them wear it. I even go to the temples and I never see them wear it.
Anbidas125 4 months ago
@Anbidas125
All endowed mormons wear garments or are supposed to wear them. Since you're only 14, you've never been endowed and there's no lessons on garments in the curriculum for kids your age.
fubecabr 4 months ago
GO ahead and make fun of us. We don´t care. A lot of people are getting familiar to mormon church thanks to you, some of them will join us and be happy. I feel disgusted at your lack of respect.
prozacox 4 months ago
@prozacox
You don't care, yet you're making comments on my video? Most people are already familiar with the Morg and and want nothing to do with it. Very few people are joining and a lot are leaving. The CUNY Religious Self Identification Survey shows that LDS Inc inflates its membership by 100% in the US and that it's growing SLOWER than population growth, which is bad considering the fertility rate for mormons.
The Census of Brazil, Mexico, and Chile show membership inflation of 400%!!!!!!!
fubecabr 4 months ago
Your total lack of respect for our beliefs sickens me... That underwear is not magical... Yet is SACRED to us... This video is disrespectful and full of hate.
prozacox 4 months ago
@prozacox
Does LDS Inc respect other religions and beliefs? Have you not ever read the D&C, PGP, and BoM which all say that ALL other religions and beliefs are abominations, whores, church of the devil, etc? The Catholic Church in particular is singled out as the mother of all abominations. Until 1990, the temple endowment mocked protestant preachers and portrayed them as hirelings of Satan.
Mormonism is full of hate.
fubecabr 4 months ago
But my opinion is not the one that mattters, let´s see what YOUTUBE thinks about it. I bet in 2 weeks or so, we won´t see it again...
prozacox 4 months ago
@fubecabr You are wrong! and you need to respect other peoples beliefs
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343
LYING for the lord, eh?
"Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth."
1 Nephi 14:10
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr thats true!
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343
Saying and believing that everyone else is of the church of the devil, mother of all abominations, and whores is NOT respectful of others' beliefs.
You lied. Period.
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr But we respect what they believe!
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
The titles "Church of the Devil" and "Great and Abominable Church" are used to identify all churches or organizations of whatever name or nature--whether political, philosophical, educational, economic, social, fraternal, civic, or religious-- which are designed to take men on a course that leads away from God and his laws and thus from salvation in the kingdom of God. Bruce R Mcconkie
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343
Which you believe is ALL other churches, religions, and philosophies. Why should anyone give you any special respect or deference when you give none to others?
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr We dont, if they follow christ thats great!
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343
For mormons it's not enough to believe/follow "Christ" as other teach/preach it. You MUST join the Morg, get the magical masonic handshakes, pay 10% tithing, wear the magical masonic underwear, and worship Jesus Smith. Even Hinkcley said that mormons worship a different Christ than the silly Christians.
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr Theres nothing masonic about the lds temple, and i am a mason too! And the only Jesus we follow is Jesus Christ! and we all worship the same jesus
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343
If you're not part of the Scottish Rite, then you won't see many similarities. The Morg temple uses the Scottish Rite's masonic handshakes and symbols.
Hinckley responding to a question whether mormons believe in the “traditional Christ,” stated:
"No I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the dispensation of the fullness of times.".
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr What he meant was that Jesus has revealed more to us, then other churches but its the same jesus! and yes there are some similarities but their means mean different things
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343
What he meant was that he thinks that his imaginary friend is real and that the imaginary friend of others is similar, but different and not real.
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr your wrong! We both believe in the same jesus, but our jesus did a little more then theirs
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343 I think you better rephrase this. Most of the LDS is masonic in origin and character. From the room setup, to the pristhood tokens, to the symbols on the garments.
sarissaki 4 months ago
@sarissaki symbols might be similar, but they mean different things, and it all goes back to solomons temple anyways so of course its similar
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343 let me say this : IDENTICAL not similar.
sarissaki 4 months ago
@sarissaki Its not Identical, ive been thru both and i would know
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343
Example 1: 2 Nephi 5: 21- 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
ErikandAndreea 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343
Can you explain why the Mormon bible has the curse of Cain (why black people are cursed) and the regular bible (the one written thousands of years before) doesnt?
ErikandAndreea 4 months ago
@ErikandAndreea Not so; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over",[3] and God "set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him" (Gen. 4:15).
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
The split between the Northern and Southern Baptist organizations arose over slavery and the education of slaves. At the time of the split, the Southern Baptist group used the curse of Cain as a justification for the practice. In fact, most 19th and early 20th century Southern Baptist congregations in the southern United States taught that there were two separate heavens; one for blacks, and one for whites
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343 The didn't read their bible, like Acts 8:27, where the Ethiopian Eunuch of Queen Candide was baptized on the side of the road in some simple water. In Mormonism no Black guy is getting anything much less a baptism and certainly not on the side of the road. You need a vast bureaucracy for baptism in Mormonism. Also, I bought some MoJo undies on ebay and I'm looking forward to testing them with a 12gauge..... hopefully with a faithful Morg ensconced inside them.
IExposeMormonism 4 months ago
@IExposeMormonism i proved other churches did it and you go, oh they didnt read their bible! Good argument
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
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And why are you against mormonism
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@jonnygotz2343
The curse of Cain is mythical but it does explain a lot about blacks. They certainly seem cursed since sub-Saharan Africans have 65-70 IQs and not third world countries but "forth world." Black countries are the absolute worst on the planet. They make places like Guatemala look like Disneyland
Countries are the way they are because of the people. It's NOT an accident that the US, Canada, Japan, Korea, Australia, UK, France, Germany, or Israel are great places to live..
fubecabr 3 months ago
@jonnygotz2343
The curse of Cain is mythical but it does explain a lot about blacks. They certainly seem cursed since sub-Saharan Africans have 65-70 IQs and not third world countries but "forth world." Black countries are the absolute worst on the planet. They make places like Guatemala look like Disneyland
Countries are the way they are because of the people. It's NOT an accident that the US, Canada, Japan, Korea, Australia, UK, France, Germany, or Israel are great places to live..
fubecabr 3 months ago
@ErikandAndreea
"What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground. Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth." (Gen. 4:10–12)
YHWH also "set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him" (Gen. 4:15).
fubecabr 3 months ago
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@fubecabr Theres nothing masonic about the lds temple, and i am a mason too! And the only Jesus we follow is Jesus Christ! and we all worship the same jesus
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
Any church or organization of any kind whatever which satisfies the innate religious longings of man and keeps him from coming to the saving truths of Christ and his gospel is therefore not of God.- Bruce r Mcconkie
jonnygotz2343 4 months ago
@fubecabr we respect the right to believe in whatever people wants to believe.
But if we are sure that other people's beliefes are wrong we cannot say they are right.
As there are many churches pretending to teach the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, there are only two possibilities:
- Only one teaches the true Gospel, or
- None of them teaches the Gospel.
Truth is one and only, and we must find it.
So bad many people fails to find the truth before they start.
elnatre 4 months ago
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@fubecabr we respect the right to believe in whatever people wants to believe.
But if we are sure that other people's beliefes are wrong we cannot say they are right.
As there are many churches pretending to teach the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, there are only two possibilities:
- Only one teaches the true Gospel, or
- None of them teaches the Gospel.
Truth is one and only, and we must find it.
So bad many people fails to find the truth before they start.
elnatre 4 months ago
@prozacox
You can go look at LDS Inc's own statistics and see that convert baptisms peaked in 1989 and the number of missionaries peaked in the early 2000s. The baptisms per missionary has declined by about half since the 80s too.
It's pretty pathetic actually. After 181 years, the mormon dog has only managed to fool 0.007% of the world's population. It's still really just a Rocky Mountain cult with a few outposts in Latin America. Europe, Asia, and Africa want nothing to do with it.
fubecabr 4 months ago
there symbolic hey wait how you even get those?
datafreak667 4 months ago
@datafreak667
Yes, they're symbolic. They have the masonic symbols of the compass, square, and ruler on them. I bought these garments at the LDS Distribution Center off University Parkway in Orem right next to Deseret Crook and Barnes and Noble.
fubecabr 4 months ago
The original temple garments were crotchless and had holes over the nipples. Joseph Smith was a psycho pervert. I'm reading out of my hat the words of god -F#CK U
THEINVENTABLETHREAT 4 months ago
I'm no longer Mormon, but was raised in the Church and now that I am out, I see ALL religion in the same vein...........we can make fun of them all if we want, but some idiots choose to waste their time writing lies about just one.................get a life.
hark65 4 months ago
This is retarded. I am LDS. You guys are full of crap.
betsybk56 4 months ago
it only works if some one faithful enough is wearing them ;)
MrDjman213 4 months ago
Wow... what an idiot.
yofavcracka 4 months ago
@yofavcracka
And yet I'm not the one wearing silly magical masonic underwear, getting extorted out of 10% of my income to build MALLS, nor am I doing the hossana hokey pokey with green aprons and baker's caps learning the secret handshakes in order to get into the mormon god's secret clubhouse.
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr No, you're just disrespecting a group of very nice people who have never done anything to hurt me or anyone else. I couldn't care if you believe what Mormon's believe. Respect nice people man.
yofavcracka 4 months ago
@yofavcracka
Since when does mormonism respect other cults, religions, and philosophies? It has 3 books of scripture that label ALL others as "church of the devil...whores...all corrupt...abominations, etc. The Catholic Church in particular is singled out and called the Great and Abominable Church.
And yes, Mormonism does hurt people. It hurt me. It hurts is members, and drives many of them to kill themselves, especially if they're gay. UT is #1 in depression and #7 in suicide.
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr So, because a few people claim (mostly outside the church) that its the catholic faith they talk about... it means all mormons are evil. Great connection. So there we go, it hurt you, and now you lash back. Cry more. Idk, I've never had a problem with Mormons. They've always been nice to me so I respect them.
yofavcracka 4 months ago
@yofavcracka
Mormon cult leaders made it clear that The Great and Abominable Church is the Catholic Church. Doesn't matter, other passages like JS-H 1:19 are just as offensive, "for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt."
When did I say that Mormons are evil? Do you understand the difference between Mormonism and Mormons?
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr read the rest of that verse, right after you stopped typing, and tell me how many Christianity sects are exactly what he describes.
yofavcracka 4 months ago
@yofavcracka
Ok, fine. Here's the rest of the verse, "they [ALL churches and their preachers] draw near to me with their lips, but their ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
It DOESN'T say some, but ALL.
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr And thats why you'll always hear a true mormon profess that all other churches have partial truth, but not the wholeness of the gospel. Never once will you hear during a mormon sacrament meeting, them bash on other religions. While most christian churches I've attended, half their sermon is directed on attacking other religions. I'm sorry, but that's not why I go to church, I go to church to further my relationship with god.
yofavcracka 4 months ago
@yofavcracka MORmONISM was founded on rabidly bashing all other religions.
settyplum 4 months ago
@settyplum Except it wasn't. It was founded on the idea that all other held a partial of the gospel, while the LDS church has the fullness. But there's no arguing with people who are so close minded and wrapped up in their own ideas, so I'm now cleansing myself of this entire comment page.
yofavcracka 4 months ago
@yofavcracka "so I'm now cleansing myself of this entire comment page."
wow, now if only the rest of us could cleanse ourselves from having to put up with MORmONS like you !
settyplum 4 months ago
I was wondering if you could do a review of that XD! Would you say that the knock down power vs those clothes is adequate and the one handed accuracy is good?
blarsen8 4 months ago
@blarsen8
One can never have too much firepower and the one handed accuracy tends to be better if you turn the gun sideways and then yell, "take that, nigga!"
fubecabr 4 months ago
@fubecabr
lol
blarsen8 4 months ago
Just like the rest of many others, sir you are foolish. Perhaps have never read your bible. Now whether or not you were doing this for your enjoyment or the enjoyment of other, remember this; there is a GOD in Heaven, and you will be judged accordingly.
miranda1984ify 4 months ago
@miranda1984ify
Oh, I've read the bible and I have come to the conclusion that it's total Jewish Racial Supremacist hogwash. It's contemptible and ridiculous on so many levels. Just about everything in the Genesis and Exodus have been disproved. And then there's the genocide, rape, murder, pillaging, infanticide, animal cruelty, slavery, torture, etc that easily make it the most disgusting piece of fiction ever written.
fubecabr 4 months ago
Yeah.. its fabric. It's the "Arm of God" meaning you have to wear it and be worth of the temple and covenants you made to have you be safe. Besides, the person who put this on is just going to be rude and say something horrible about this comment so I guess you, my friend, will never understand. Oh, one more thing, they are not "Masonic underwear" to be a Mason has nothing to do with the LDS religion, but I expect that you are going to say "Well Joseph Smith was a Mason, right?"... Right?
yourfacesucksnuts 5 months ago
@yourfacesucksnuts
Yes, they are Masonic underwear because they have the symbols of masonry-the compass, square, and ruler, on them. Horny Joe, the founder of Mormonism, was a Mason and ripped off the masonic rituals in making up the endowment. They have the same secret handshakes and passwords too. When Horny Joe was being murdered, he even made the Masonic distress call in a lame attempt to save his sorry ass.
fubecabr 5 months ago
@yourfacesucksnuts Joseph smith was a manson. Arm of God? you have to be worth of the temple? so what happened to Jesus? when the veil was ripped and we have free entrance to the presence of God. And Idon't wear this I'm not worth it? lol. my savior made that way for me. HIs the way, his blood cleaned me, his the savior, his truth has set me free, his the truth, no temple, no covenants no nothing, Jesus is the way the truth and the life.
Chinaculiacan 4 months ago
@yourfacesucksnutsThe doctrine that God was once a man and has progressed to become a God is unique to this Church. How do you feel, knowing that God, through His own experience, "knows all that we know regarding the toils [and] sufferings" of mortality? (p. 34) We receive these truths, and go on from glory to glory, . . . gaining a knowledge of all things, and becoming Gods, even Sons of God. (p. 55) Now those men, or those women, who know no more about the power of God,
Chinaculiacan 4 months ago
@yourfacesucksnuts the influences of the Holy Spirit, than to be led entirely by another person, suspending their own understanding, and pinning their faith upon another's sleeve, . . . will never be capable of becoming Gods. They cannot rule themselves, to say nothing of ruling others, . . . They never can become Gods, nor be crowned as rulers with glory, immortality, and eternal lives. (p. 288) your doctrine is a joke.
Chinaculiacan 4 months ago
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@yourfacesucksnuts Message body"the curse" was preserved through the Egyptians (Abraham 1:21) Joseph Smith claimed to be from the tribe of Ephrain, son Joseph who married and had children with his Egyptian wife (Gen 41:50-52). So according to the Book of Abraham, Jospeph Smith would be ineligible to hold the Mormon priesthood!
endofus 4 months ago
Jesus Jammies are not meanto be bullet proof.
Tragically, a Moron family died in a vehicle collision. Presumably father and mother were wearing their garments. Oh, I think a son survived.
In Utah a Moron brother and sister were driving their parent's SUV on the Interstate. At 55 mph they unfastened their seat-belts to change places. The SUV rolled andaughter killed. It is believed they were wearing their garments.
ALL religions are man-made myth, fairytales, and superstation. Not just LD$.
robertgift 5 months ago
I think in order to disprove this theory, you would need to shoot the gun at the underwear while someone is actually WEARING THE FREAKING THINGS YOU IDIOT!!!
hark65 5 months ago
@hark65 OK... You First!!!!
sngncwby 5 months ago
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The Mormons hate Christians, the Mormons constantly steal BABIES away from young girls for little money and SELL the Babies as an Adoption scheme where fathers have no parental rights. Mormons are Occult and Evil-if you vote for Mit Romney-you are opposed to God.
libertydogfight 5 months ago
P.S. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
GmaM11 5 months ago
Yestraumatized. I expected to learn a "higher order" of love and live. Instead, I saw Satan rail at Christian ministers, then I learned some silly secret handshakes for with gruesome consequences if I told anyone. No one & noone prepared me for the instant of decision between marriage and family and placing death curses on myself. Mormon's covenants have changed. The covenants of Eden, Adam, Noah, Moses, David and Yeshua remain unchange.. If it needed changing, it must have been wrong.
GmaM11 5 months ago
to fubecabr... as i have said ill coute "i think" vovo m naman pala dota nlng tayu weak k nlang !!
decyo21 5 months ago
Well, as a Mormon I can tell you that this is bunk! The Garments are a one piece and not two separate "tops and bottoms" as shown here. BUT lets just entertain this nut job for a second and say the were actually Endowment Garments. You have to hold a Temple recommend to buy them and once they have served their owner they are burned. I can tell you for a fact that these were not a member's garments... And they are not magical in any way. The blind leading the blind if you believe this crap.
RippR101 5 months ago
@RippR101
Oh my doG, you really are clueless. There is a one piece version and a two piece version of the garments. You've obviously never been endowed or stepped foot into a Morg Distribution Center where garments are sold.You should go ask an ENDOWED mormon if there's two piece garments instead of spouting your ignorant mouth off about things you have no clue over.
Theoretically you need a temple recommend to buy them, but they never checked mine even one time when I was mormon.
fubecabr 5 months ago
@RippR101 Actually, the garments are a two-piece set, and have been for years now, although I think LDS can still purchase the one piece garment.
JediLDS 5 months ago
@RippR101 I am not here to argue with a fellow Latter Day Saint. However when is the last time you purchased garments? 1960's? While it is true many of the older generation where the one piece I don't have one friend who does. I am wearing garments right now and they do indeed have them in seperate tops and bottoms.
methodtraining 5 months ago
@methodtraining Mormon forefathers bore their testimonies for a different set of doctrines that are now said to be false by the current LDS church.Some of these doctrines were: 6ft tall Quakers on the moon, Adam as God, polygamy is essential to salvation, blacks will be denied the priesthood until the second comming of Christ, death oaths and blood atonment. If your forefathers testimonies can't be trusted, what makes you so sure yours can be trusted? What makes you better then them?
endofus 4 months ago
@endofus "What makes me better then them?" What in the world are you talking about? I made a comment to a man regarding the updating of Garments. You want to argue, debate or discuss with someone I am sure you can find plenty who will take you up on that. Have fun.
methodtraining 4 months ago
@USSRxUkrainexRussia in capitalist america, bank robs you! ;)
Darusdei 5 months ago
@USSRxUkrainexRussia
Why would asking if I was exmormon or not be insulting?
On a side not, I heard a funny musing yesterday. "In Soviet America, bank robs you."
fubecabr 5 months ago
@USSRxUkrainexRussia
Did it ever occur to you that I could have been mormon before?
fubecabr 5 months ago
Jude 18-19"How that they told you that there would be mockers in the last time, who should walk after there own ungodly lusts. These be they who seperate themselves, sensual, having not the spirit"...Jude 22-23" And of some have compassion, making a difference: And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the Garment spotted by the flesh."
Whether the garments are bullet proof or not, it is unthoughtful and careless to mock the very personal things we cherish.
PapyrusLove 5 months ago
@PapyrusLove
Use circular reasoning much? Why do you quote from the bible to make your point to an atheist? You might as well quote from the silly Koran.
Mormons mock and disrespect other cults and religion as a matter of official policy. Have you not ever read you own damn scriptures? Did you miss the parts about calling ALL other cults and religions; abominations, whores, apostate, church of the devil, etc?
fubecabr 5 months ago
@fubecabr You really do twist the word of God here to suit your own ends. Just because you don't believe and turn away from the truth does not mean you will not be held accountable on judgement day. Return to God at any time and he will receive you as if you never left.
RippR101 5 months ago
@RippR101
Mormonism is quite possibly the world's most easily disproved cult or religion. I don't know of any more ridiculous than mormonism. Seriously, every claim that LDS Inc has made has been proved false.You might as well believe that the world is flat or hollow. You are just as delusional as those folks.
fubecabr 5 months ago
Like I said before. I'm only 14, I don't have all the answers. And I'm using my freaking iPhone my grammar is not gonna b the best. My mon is that smart. She was two grades ahead of everybody. Graduated valedictorian of her high school. She was in cheer volleyball and student council. My mom was smarter an knew more and had more faith than u ever will so u can just shut up about y mom bcause she is above u.
notmymom9 5 months ago