ok, "funworksfun" so you searched for how to do a magic trick, then you are mad when you find the answer? The last magician did not reveal this trick and he got blasted for being a jerk. Can't win either way
i hate it. when vids dont reveal theres alot of comments saying show it please!!! when they do there are comments that say this isnt ur trick so dont show it. if it is always kept a secret there wouldnt be magic kits at all. be happy he showed us it. when he says dont tell the secret he means when you perform tricks to people.
NOPE, it's not yours to reveal. You did not. Create, invent or come up with it. Therefore, it's not yours. Just because you bought it doesn't give you the right to reveal it. All you did was buy the rights to perform it. And that's it. P.S. That applies to any and all illlussions you purchase and do not create, invent, etc.
@MrOphachew Rubbish. GREEDY magic shops just say this so they can sell more. Let's do more tutorials and help magic students get into the art without paying through the nose for public domain secrets. Go on the Learned Pig and you'll see all this stuff is public domain now. Royal Road to Card Magic, Bobos Modern Coin Magic etc; it's all public domain. You are just telling lies to support greed. Shame on you!
@MrOphachew Yes it is, it helps new magicians learn. Only magicians or magic students read these threads and watch these vids anyway. Greedy people don't want exposure because it helps them sell the same old secrets over and over again to new magic students. Stop the gravy train and help magic education by exposing these ideas to people who want to learn.
@CaraBrimleyRules -- Negative, if magic students and magicians want to learn they can join magic clubs etc. These clips do no such thing they simply reduce the art down to a puzzle that people are simply challenged to 'figure out how its done' all these clips do is make people think if they know how its done it makes them a magician. This is an art form not meant for the idle curious. (funworksfun2) has it right. you must also be as unimaginative as you are jealous.
@MrOphachew Well you can spout all you like but you can't stop the landslide with a matchstick. People may not have a magic club near them for example. Libraries and magic clubs are ideas from the last century and before. The internet is the new magic club and it is the new library. One that all can use regardless of distance. I suggest you take your old fashioned ideas and discuss them with the retards on the magiccafe because they are the only people who will (wrongly) agree !
@CaraBrimleyRules -- You a cheap skate/tight wad? Then they can get active and start one. Get your lazy behind up and get out there and get active. Library's are where everybody starts. And since you are so unimaginative and uncreative. You haven't invented anything only to have some little shmuck reveal it. I'll bet you'd try to muscle in on some hardworking restaurant magician who's just trying to earn a living.
@MrOphachew You continue to make the same mistake. Libraries WERE where people started. Now people start on the internet where everything is revealed for free. And there is nothing you can do to stop it. You can bleat about arts and crafts and secrets but nobody takes any notice of that shit any more. We have the internet to distribute all the old secrets and all the new ones as well. The greedy smug magicians cannot hold back the tide. Now everything is revealed.
@CaraBrimleyRules - And magic will suffer because of public exposure (and exposure simply for the sake of exposure) is and never will be good for magic. Just because you know all the words to 'over the rainbow' doesn't mean you can sing it like Judy Garland. We all know how a piano works you strike one of the black or white keys it moves a hammer that strikes a cord that produces a sound but knowing that doesn't mean you can play the piano like barry manalow, van Claybourne.
@MrOphachew Yes, "magic will suffer", the "art will suffer" etc etc. This is another pet phrase trotted out by old school magicians. In fact, big time exposure/education via You Tube & other sites has been around for 10 years or more. Magic sales & interest are stronger than ever due to the new publicity generated. Magic continues to thrive on TV. They said vaudeville would kill magic, they said TV would do the same... we are still waiting. You are ill informed - check out history.
@CaraBrimleyRules --I never heard the Vaudville comment. You are the ill informed one. Where does magic thrive on tv? Magic used to thrive and thrill in the parlors and the night clubs. But it doesn't any more. Why is that?
@MrOphachew The parlours??? Errrm exactly what year are you living in Mr Dinosaur. 1885? 1934? Are you 75 years old?! The reason it doesn't thrive in the parlours is that we no longer have parlours. Much as you might wish it, the family doesn't sit round the piano any more and sing songs till it is time to turn off the gas lights. The teens are all in their own bedrooms surfing the net on facebook and you tube. Some of them will have their interest in magic started by what they see.
@CaraBrimleyRules -Parlors = Living rooms. And even Proff. Hoffman stated way back in 1884ish that there is a vast difference between teaching how to do a trick and simply revealing/telling/showing how a trick is done. Exposure simply for the sake of exposure is never ever good for Magic. Even Richard Osterlind declared at a resent lecture that if he had known about youtube, etc he never would have made his dvd's.
@MrOphachew Parlours = a term for living rooms used 70 plus years ago!! Hoffmans Modern Magic & the rest were pretty much the exposure of their time, and as you know those books plus Erdnase, Expert Card Technique, RRTCM & Bobos are all public domain now. Anyone can set up a website distributing them for nothing. The old notion of having to pay has disappeared with the net. Osterlind is talking bollox. He knows all about YT and still puts out stuff - he benefits from the publicity.
@CaraBrimleyRules -- cheapskate, Not anymore and this has nothing to do with was put out by Hoffman etc. 80 years ago. This has to do with the Masked Magician stuff and his type of non-sense The self-tying shoelace was only created a few years ago and its already on here and no-one has given the creator any credit. Richard Osterlind benefits in no way(and you know it) and he meant that if he'd known how popular youtube would be today he never would have put out his dvd's
@MrOphachew Well most magic around today is not created just recycled. The greedy claim it is their "own" stuff though even though they just put out exactly the same public domain item or perhaps add a minor performance variation. This thing about "creators" is largely a myth. OK Osterlind may be an exception, but a lot of the stuff people complain about is very old. Eg App/vanish cane orginal is spring steel. It may have been done in plastic recently but that's just a variation.
@CaraBrimleyRules - Thats hog wash and you know it. Start showing some real respect. And quit trying make up excuses to be an uncaring cheap skate and pay your dues there is such a thing as pirating, and asking for peoples permission and giving specific credit where it's due.
@MrOphachew It's not hogwash it's fact. Take Stigmata nominally "created" by Houchin. Scratch your arm and blood will fill the scratch after a delay. It was published in a 1967 book as the "The Blood Writing Test" and the effect dates back to the the 1860's and before when it was used by mediums to deceive people about the dead and extract money for communication with the dead. Houchin merely recycled the effect under a new name. There's very little new in magic. Respect is not due.
@CaraBrimleyRules --ok cheapskate where did the self tying shoe lace come from?
Whenever I read your comments I am reminded of the comment in "Shattering Illusion" by Jamy Ian Swiss. "As I see it the problem with Magic these days is that 'you' are in it."
@MrOphachew Noblezada popularised by Blaine ostensibly But if you go back to the public domain stuff at TLP you'll probably find something similar like "the self tying necktie" where the knot is already tied & pulled into view by a string. You can't refute my argument about Houchin... & 95% that is supposedly "created" today is existing principles with minor tweaks and performance variation. The creation concept is just a marketing gimmick to rip off new generations with old effects.
@MrOphachew It is good for magic because magic is flourishing more than ever, despite the so called exposure. It merely stimulates more people to take up the hobby and buy magic and perform it. I told you all this this not a few days ago. Just look at the activity in magic now and the numbers of people buying stuff. You have the the memory of a stick insect I'm afraid!
@CaraBrimleyRules - '...and buy magic..." this from the cheapskate that accused dealer s of being greedy. I'm not the one with the "memory of a stick".
@MrOphachew They can buy magic if they want, I am not stopping them! And yes from greedy dealers too. Personally I'd make it if I could. No reason to give dealers money if one doesn't have to but some things are better bought as David alludes to in the vid - no point making the MCB it is easier to buy!
Anyway I have exposed countless effects and helped young magicians and those not so young too. This is how we do it now. We all learn the secrets for free. Education must be free!
@CaraBrimleyRules -Who's going to want to buy a coloring book or even be interested in buying one with this dud revealing how its done? Exposure simply for the sake of exposure does magic a disservice.
@MrOphachew Colouring book is for childrens magic shows. I'd say 3-7 year olds. These kind of people are not likely to be surfing You Tube or taking in the the details or remembering them. I'd say a lot more people would buy MCB as a result of Mr Castles fine publicity for the effect. And if they don't, who cares anyway. The effect will still be performed in children's shows across the land.
@CaraBrimleyRules -- One magic trick does not a point make. I'm talking about Magic in general and you know it. You have no point and you know it. There are more than enough resources out there now, and there has always been. Enough and probably to much.
@MrOphachew I do have a point.Magic is too vast and too technical for any exposure to make any difference. Teller once exposed the classic palm & then blew people away with a variation. Same with the Thumb Tip or should we say TT ;-) Same with the cups & balls. Penn & Teller have entertained with blatant exposure & then followed up with a sucker effect to show it doesn't matter. One has no chance of coping with the variations & technicalities unless one's studied for a long time
@CaraBrimleyRules --Penn & Teller, :( they used to be pretty good until they went around exposing other magicians illusions. I've lost all respect for them and they no longer care anyway they've made a bundle of money and no longer care. Making magic harder to perform and making tricks harder to perform is no excuse for exposure simply for the sake of exposure. Guess I'll to ask youtube why you won't go in iggy?
@MrOphachew Penn & Teller are my Fave magic act. I love exposure and then a sucker punch. It's great entertainment for layman and technician alike, Because you can see how the layman is floored in by part two, and he gets it where he is not expecting it.
Lance Burton doesn't care about exposure either. Ask the public who is more entertaining ....Burton, P&T or Osterlind... and they won't even have heard of Osterlind. I think he is OK, but mentalism kind of sucks as entertainment.
@CaraBrimleyRules - So what, as great as Dai Vernon was(and still is) he was not known or well known outside of magic. That doesn't make him any less great.
@MrOphachew That's fair enough, one can be a magician's magician. But the art of magic is not about the technicalities, it is about the art of entertaining with magic. That's why the method (and exposure etc) is actually a side issue. What really matter is how you present the effect and how you entertain with it.
@CaraBrimleyRules --nope, I insists that just because one knows all the words to the song over the rain bow doesn't mean one can sing it like Judy 'Garland. Just because one likes to draw doesn't mean they can go work for disney or is even good enough to go work at disney. I sure there's many that think thats all there is to it. go meditate on the comment above that funworkfun2 left two years ago.
@MrOphachew Hahaha. Mr Ophachew, you are like a broken record. You are incapable of arguing my points cogently. You are just repeating the same tired old mantra over and over!
LOOK at my post below I am agreeing with you "What really matter is how you present the effect & how you entertain with it" Eg Judy Garland etc
Anyone can know the method, but the real secret is in the presentation. That's one of the reasons exposure's a non issue. You have proved my point for me thanks! QED
@CaraBrimleyRules You wish. I've destroyed your thinking at every point and at every turn. funworksfun2 proved and showed where your thinking is wrong two years ago. If you want to try to ignore it that's up to you. But that doesn't make you right. Public exposure (simply for the sake of exposure) is and never will be good for magic.
@CaraBrimleyRules - Thought i had you in ignore? Oh well, none of what you have said justifies what the dud in the video clip is doing nor does it justify what Valentino does on tv, which is exposure simply for the sake of exposure which will never be good for magic.
@MrOphachew By the way, why would you want to put me on ignore? We have different views on the development of magic but that is not a huge deal. Some lively debate is healthy.In spite of exposure, I have done a lot of magic and entertained many with magic. I wouldn't expose during a show. But people have short memories. Those who are not interested don't go seeking exposure or they don't have the technical ability to understand it anyway. And even if they did they won't remember!
@MrOphachew -You haven't said anything worth listening too yet. Access has become far too easy. Richard Osterlind is one of many that feel as I do. And you have already cited Magicafe. Just because people want to 'know how it's done' doesn't necessarily mean that they are interested in performing magic or being magicians. The Art of Magic isn't nor should it be so easily available for the idle curious.
@MrOphachew There's more exposure on MagicCafe than any other site on the net. The threads are crawling with it. And when a new effect comes out the latest and greatest threads are packed full of posts fishing for clues on the method. It's also clear that many of the posters are not performers but simply the idle curious who can also get access to more exposure simply by doing 50 posts. And this is supposed to be a site for magicians - even your beloved Osterlind posts there!
@HabboBarbs97 let me get this straight, you're asking people to help you get started doing magic tricks but say you don't think anyone should reveal magic tricks? Exactly what kind of help are you looking for then if you don't want anyone to reveal tricks to you?
Well most of the people that watch my shows know how to spell illusion and they also understand that when you buy a trick at a store you are also buying a secret, you are not buying the right to be a jackass and tell the world the secret. Key word there my friend "SECRET", something that is supposed to be kept from others to maintain it's value. As far as your uncle goes, how does he feel about the illusionist on TV revealing all of HIS secrets?
You and everyone else that feels the need to reveal tricks to the public are scumbags. This is the kind of stuff that we (I'm a magician) use to make a living. You should be sued for everything you have. If you were teaching this to legitimate magic students who understood the dangers of revealing the secrets it would be different. Shame on you. Please stop before you do anymore damage.
well to tell you the truth its really easy to figure this suff out and its not magician... it illusionist (i spelt that wrong but what ever) and your called that for a reason ppl dont watch magic shows because they think that it is really most ppl watch because it is how you guys make it llok real if your good you really dont need to hide that kinda stuff that you can get at a magic store...but my uncle is a illosionist an he has tought me so much... and sorry about the spelling not trying to
Revealing magic is wrong. You show no respect to the creators of the effects and the magicians that support themselves and their families by performing these tricks. By giving away these tricks you are taking food off their family and possibly even the roof over their head. Way to go! If you think that makes you cool, then you have some serious problems.
thanck you
FAJO22922 2 months ago
Great!
But where would you get a fun magic coloring book?
pinkypooapple 3 months ago
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thank you just found one in my closet and needed help
school436 3 months ago
thank you just found one in my closet and need help
school436 3 months ago
"So that's how you do it.. It's a gimmicked book, but it's a lot of fun"
Gimmicked book? GIMMICKED BOOK? NO SHIT, I THOUGHT IT WAS PURE MAGIC YOU RUIN EVERYTHING
Avara555 5 months ago 2
loser
gregdavis1982 5 months ago
lol... have the KIDS throw razors.. really dude?
GirlGod04 5 months ago
8 people would rather make their own book.
drumaster24 5 months ago
ok, "funworksfun" so you searched for how to do a magic trick, then you are mad when you find the answer? The last magician did not reveal this trick and he got blasted for being a jerk. Can't win either way
MRSjamieweaver 7 months ago
Smart thinking lol
punkedge28 7 months ago
i figured it out myself by watching them on how they do it
dmr778810 8 months ago
HOLY FUCK HIS FACE SCARED ME! WHOA!
sameldawi123 8 months ago
I CAUGHT U WHEN U WERE PREFORMING I NOTICED UR FINGER
I GOT A GOOD EYE
98rollins 1 year ago
i hate it. when vids dont reveal theres alot of comments saying show it please!!! when they do there are comments that say this isnt ur trick so dont show it. if it is always kept a secret there wouldnt be magic kits at all. be happy he showed us it. when he says dont tell the secret he means when you perform tricks to people.
maximus197619 1 year ago
NOPE, it's not yours to reveal. You did not. Create, invent or come up with it. Therefore, it's not yours. Just because you bought it doesn't give you the right to reveal it. All you did was buy the rights to perform it. And that's it. P.S. That applies to any and all illlussions you purchase and do not create, invent, etc.
MrOphachew 1 year ago
@MrOphachew Rubbish. GREEDY magic shops just say this so they can sell more. Let's do more tutorials and help magic students get into the art without paying through the nose for public domain secrets. Go on the Learned Pig and you'll see all this stuff is public domain now. Royal Road to Card Magic, Bobos Modern Coin Magic etc; it's all public domain. You are just telling lies to support greed. Shame on you!
CaraBrimleyRules 1 month ago
@CaraBrimleyRules -- public exposure of magic(and exposure simply for the sake of exposure) is never ever good for magic.
MrOphachew 1 month ago
@MrOphachew Yes it is, it helps new magicians learn. Only magicians or magic students read these threads and watch these vids anyway. Greedy people don't want exposure because it helps them sell the same old secrets over and over again to new magic students. Stop the gravy train and help magic education by exposing these ideas to people who want to learn.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 month ago
@CaraBrimleyRules -- Negative, if magic students and magicians want to learn they can join magic clubs etc. These clips do no such thing they simply reduce the art down to a puzzle that people are simply challenged to 'figure out how its done' all these clips do is make people think if they know how its done it makes them a magician. This is an art form not meant for the idle curious. (funworksfun2) has it right. you must also be as unimaginative as you are jealous.
MrOphachew 1 month ago
@MrOphachew Well you can spout all you like but you can't stop the landslide with a matchstick. People may not have a magic club near them for example. Libraries and magic clubs are ideas from the last century and before. The internet is the new magic club and it is the new library. One that all can use regardless of distance. I suggest you take your old fashioned ideas and discuss them with the retards on the magiccafe because they are the only people who will (wrongly) agree !
CaraBrimleyRules 1 month ago
@CaraBrimleyRules -- You a cheap skate/tight wad? Then they can get active and start one. Get your lazy behind up and get out there and get active. Library's are where everybody starts. And since you are so unimaginative and uncreative. You haven't invented anything only to have some little shmuck reveal it. I'll bet you'd try to muscle in on some hardworking restaurant magician who's just trying to earn a living.
MrOphachew 1 month ago
@MrOphachew You continue to make the same mistake. Libraries WERE where people started. Now people start on the internet where everything is revealed for free. And there is nothing you can do to stop it. You can bleat about arts and crafts and secrets but nobody takes any notice of that shit any more. We have the internet to distribute all the old secrets and all the new ones as well. The greedy smug magicians cannot hold back the tide. Now everything is revealed.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 month ago
@CaraBrimleyRules - And magic will suffer because of public exposure (and exposure simply for the sake of exposure) is and never will be good for magic. Just because you know all the words to 'over the rainbow' doesn't mean you can sing it like Judy Garland. We all know how a piano works you strike one of the black or white keys it moves a hammer that strikes a cord that produces a sound but knowing that doesn't mean you can play the piano like barry manalow, van Claybourne.
MrOphachew 1 month ago
@MrOphachew Yes, "magic will suffer", the "art will suffer" etc etc. This is another pet phrase trotted out by old school magicians. In fact, big time exposure/education via You Tube & other sites has been around for 10 years or more. Magic sales & interest are stronger than ever due to the new publicity generated. Magic continues to thrive on TV. They said vaudeville would kill magic, they said TV would do the same... we are still waiting. You are ill informed - check out history.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 month ago
@CaraBrimleyRules --I never heard the Vaudville comment. You are the ill informed one. Where does magic thrive on tv? Magic used to thrive and thrill in the parlors and the night clubs. But it doesn't any more. Why is that?
MrOphachew 1 month ago
@MrOphachew The parlours??? Errrm exactly what year are you living in Mr Dinosaur. 1885? 1934? Are you 75 years old?! The reason it doesn't thrive in the parlours is that we no longer have parlours. Much as you might wish it, the family doesn't sit round the piano any more and sing songs till it is time to turn off the gas lights. The teens are all in their own bedrooms surfing the net on facebook and you tube. Some of them will have their interest in magic started by what they see.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 month ago
@CaraBrimleyRules -Parlors = Living rooms. And even Proff. Hoffman stated way back in 1884ish that there is a vast difference between teaching how to do a trick and simply revealing/telling/showing how a trick is done. Exposure simply for the sake of exposure is never ever good for Magic. Even Richard Osterlind declared at a resent lecture that if he had known about youtube, etc he never would have made his dvd's.
MrOphachew 1 month ago
@MrOphachew Parlours = a term for living rooms used 70 plus years ago!! Hoffmans Modern Magic & the rest were pretty much the exposure of their time, and as you know those books plus Erdnase, Expert Card Technique, RRTCM & Bobos are all public domain now. Anyone can set up a website distributing them for nothing. The old notion of having to pay has disappeared with the net. Osterlind is talking bollox. He knows all about YT and still puts out stuff - he benefits from the publicity.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 month ago
@CaraBrimleyRules -- cheapskate, Not anymore and this has nothing to do with was put out by Hoffman etc. 80 years ago. This has to do with the Masked Magician stuff and his type of non-sense The self-tying shoelace was only created a few years ago and its already on here and no-one has given the creator any credit. Richard Osterlind benefits in no way(and you know it) and he meant that if he'd known how popular youtube would be today he never would have put out his dvd's
MrOphachew 1 month ago
@MrOphachew Well most magic around today is not created just recycled. The greedy claim it is their "own" stuff though even though they just put out exactly the same public domain item or perhaps add a minor performance variation. This thing about "creators" is largely a myth. OK Osterlind may be an exception, but a lot of the stuff people complain about is very old. Eg App/vanish cane orginal is spring steel. It may have been done in plastic recently but that's just a variation.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 month ago
@CaraBrimleyRules - Thats hog wash and you know it. Start showing some real respect. And quit trying make up excuses to be an uncaring cheap skate and pay your dues there is such a thing as pirating, and asking for peoples permission and giving specific credit where it's due.
MrOphachew 1 month ago
@MrOphachew It's not hogwash it's fact. Take Stigmata nominally "created" by Houchin. Scratch your arm and blood will fill the scratch after a delay. It was published in a 1967 book as the "The Blood Writing Test" and the effect dates back to the the 1860's and before when it was used by mediums to deceive people about the dead and extract money for communication with the dead. Houchin merely recycled the effect under a new name. There's very little new in magic. Respect is not due.
CaraBrimleyRules 4 weeks ago
@CaraBrimleyRules --ok cheapskate where did the self tying shoe lace come from?
Whenever I read your comments I am reminded of the comment in "Shattering Illusion" by Jamy Ian Swiss. "As I see it the problem with Magic these days is that 'you' are in it."
MrOphachew 4 weeks ago
@MrOphachew Noblezada popularised by Blaine ostensibly But if you go back to the public domain stuff at TLP you'll probably find something similar like "the self tying necktie" where the knot is already tied & pulled into view by a string. You can't refute my argument about Houchin... & 95% that is supposedly "created" today is existing principles with minor tweaks and performance variation. The creation concept is just a marketing gimmick to rip off new generations with old effects.
CaraBrimleyRules 4 weeks ago
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MrOphachew 4 weeks ago
@MrOphachew It is good for magic because magic is flourishing more than ever, despite the so called exposure. It merely stimulates more people to take up the hobby and buy magic and perform it. I told you all this this not a few days ago. Just look at the activity in magic now and the numbers of people buying stuff. You have the the memory of a stick insect I'm afraid!
CaraBrimleyRules 4 weeks ago
@CaraBrimleyRules - '...and buy magic..." this from the cheapskate that accused dealer s of being greedy. I'm not the one with the "memory of a stick".
MrOphachew 4 weeks ago
@MrOphachew They can buy magic if they want, I am not stopping them! And yes from greedy dealers too. Personally I'd make it if I could. No reason to give dealers money if one doesn't have to but some things are better bought as David alludes to in the vid - no point making the MCB it is easier to buy!
Anyway I have exposed countless effects and helped young magicians and those not so young too. This is how we do it now. We all learn the secrets for free. Education must be free!
CaraBrimleyRules 3 weeks ago
@CaraBrimleyRules -Who's going to want to buy a coloring book or even be interested in buying one with this dud revealing how its done? Exposure simply for the sake of exposure does magic a disservice.
MrOphachew 3 weeks ago
@MrOphachew Colouring book is for childrens magic shows. I'd say 3-7 year olds. These kind of people are not likely to be surfing You Tube or taking in the the details or remembering them. I'd say a lot more people would buy MCB as a result of Mr Castles fine publicity for the effect. And if they don't, who cares anyway. The effect will still be performed in children's shows across the land.
CaraBrimleyRules 3 weeks ago
@CaraBrimleyRules -- One magic trick does not a point make. I'm talking about Magic in general and you know it. You have no point and you know it. There are more than enough resources out there now, and there has always been. Enough and probably to much.
MrOphachew 3 weeks ago
@MrOphachew I do have a point.Magic is too vast and too technical for any exposure to make any difference. Teller once exposed the classic palm & then blew people away with a variation. Same with the Thumb Tip or should we say TT ;-) Same with the cups & balls. Penn & Teller have entertained with blatant exposure & then followed up with a sucker effect to show it doesn't matter. One has no chance of coping with the variations & technicalities unless one's studied for a long time
CaraBrimleyRules 3 weeks ago
@CaraBrimleyRules --Penn & Teller, :( they used to be pretty good until they went around exposing other magicians illusions. I've lost all respect for them and they no longer care anyway they've made a bundle of money and no longer care. Making magic harder to perform and making tricks harder to perform is no excuse for exposure simply for the sake of exposure. Guess I'll to ask youtube why you won't go in iggy?
MrOphachew 3 weeks ago
@MrOphachew Penn & Teller are my Fave magic act. I love exposure and then a sucker punch. It's great entertainment for layman and technician alike, Because you can see how the layman is floored in by part two, and he gets it where he is not expecting it.
Lance Burton doesn't care about exposure either. Ask the public who is more entertaining ....Burton, P&T or Osterlind... and they won't even have heard of Osterlind. I think he is OK, but mentalism kind of sucks as entertainment.
CaraBrimleyRules 3 weeks ago
@CaraBrimleyRules - So what, as great as Dai Vernon was(and still is) he was not known or well known outside of magic. That doesn't make him any less great.
MrOphachew 3 weeks ago
@MrOphachew That's fair enough, one can be a magician's magician. But the art of magic is not about the technicalities, it is about the art of entertaining with magic. That's why the method (and exposure etc) is actually a side issue. What really matter is how you present the effect and how you entertain with it.
CaraBrimleyRules 3 weeks ago
@CaraBrimleyRules --nope, I insists that just because one knows all the words to the song over the rain bow doesn't mean one can sing it like Judy 'Garland. Just because one likes to draw doesn't mean they can go work for disney or is even good enough to go work at disney. I sure there's many that think thats all there is to it. go meditate on the comment above that funworkfun2 left two years ago.
MrOphachew 3 weeks ago
@MrOphachew Hahaha. Mr Ophachew, you are like a broken record. You are incapable of arguing my points cogently. You are just repeating the same tired old mantra over and over!
LOOK at my post below I am agreeing with you "What really matter is how you present the effect & how you entertain with it" Eg Judy Garland etc
Anyone can know the method, but the real secret is in the presentation. That's one of the reasons exposure's a non issue. You have proved my point for me thanks! QED
CaraBrimleyRules 3 weeks ago
@CaraBrimleyRules You wish. I've destroyed your thinking at every point and at every turn. funworksfun2 proved and showed where your thinking is wrong two years ago. If you want to try to ignore it that's up to you. But that doesn't make you right. Public exposure (simply for the sake of exposure) is and never will be good for magic.
MrOphachew 3 weeks ago
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@CaraBrimleyRules - Thought i had you in ignore? Oh well, none of what you have said justifies what the dud in the video clip is doing nor does it justify what Valentino does on tv, which is exposure simply for the sake of exposure which will never be good for magic.
MrOphachew 4 weeks ago
@MrOphachew By the way, why would you want to put me on ignore? We have different views on the development of magic but that is not a huge deal. Some lively debate is healthy.In spite of exposure, I have done a lot of magic and entertained many with magic. I wouldn't expose during a show. But people have short memories. Those who are not interested don't go seeking exposure or they don't have the technical ability to understand it anyway. And even if they did they won't remember!
CaraBrimleyRules 3 weeks ago
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MrOphachew 3 weeks ago
@MrOphachew --And funworksfun2 has a comment above that is just as relevant today and tomorrow as it was 2 years ago.
MrOphachew 3 weeks ago
@MrOphachew -You haven't said anything worth listening too yet. Access has become far too easy. Richard Osterlind is one of many that feel as I do. And you have already cited Magicafe. Just because people want to 'know how it's done' doesn't necessarily mean that they are interested in performing magic or being magicians. The Art of Magic isn't nor should it be so easily available for the idle curious.
MrOphachew 3 weeks ago
@MrOphachew There's more exposure on MagicCafe than any other site on the net. The threads are crawling with it. And when a new effect comes out the latest and greatest threads are packed full of posts fishing for clues on the method. It's also clear that many of the posters are not performers but simply the idle curious who can also get access to more exposure simply by doing 50 posts. And this is supposed to be a site for magicians - even your beloved Osterlind posts there!
CaraBrimleyRules 3 weeks ago
more specific
runningsandwich 1 year ago
I am learning to become a magician. And I think no-one should reveal secrets. And I'm only 13 anyone willing to help me get started pm me.
Cheers
HabboBarbs97 1 year ago
@HabboBarbs97 let me get this straight, you're asking people to help you get started doing magic tricks but say you don't think anyone should reveal magic tricks? Exactly what kind of help are you looking for then if you don't want anyone to reveal tricks to you?
csplendrig 1 year ago
Do you have to colour the pages yourself? I'm tooooooo LAZE!!! :D
Lego123987456 1 year ago
thanks
Gordo1771 1 year ago
great
ArcDinh 1 year ago
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alexmallissahmarie 1 year ago
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MegaDethSpartan66 1 year ago
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magic5244 1 year ago
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magic5244 1 year ago
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19Staceys 1 year ago
if u put ur finger in ur mom everyone will be happy!
lolololove1233 2 years ago
you are gay
Puodziunas 2 years ago
OMG!!!!!! Steven Hawking walk and speak... It´s a miracle
Moooooozek 2 years ago 21
@ Moooooozek way to be a douche
BentStudio 2 years ago
its not hawkings people its his son i think
DUTTYWINE1TIME69 2 years ago
Well most of the people that watch my shows know how to spell illusion and they also understand that when you buy a trick at a store you are also buying a secret, you are not buying the right to be a jackass and tell the world the secret. Key word there my friend "SECRET", something that is supposed to be kept from others to maintain it's value. As far as your uncle goes, how does he feel about the illusionist on TV revealing all of HIS secrets?
funworksfun2 2 years ago 5
You and everyone else that feels the need to reveal tricks to the public are scumbags. This is the kind of stuff that we (I'm a magician) use to make a living. You should be sued for everything you have. If you were teaching this to legitimate magic students who understood the dangers of revealing the secrets it would be different. Shame on you. Please stop before you do anymore damage.
funworksfun2 2 years ago 3
well to tell you the truth its really easy to figure this suff out and its not magician... it illusionist (i spelt that wrong but what ever) and your called that for a reason ppl dont watch magic shows because they think that it is really most ppl watch because it is how you guys make it llok real if your good you really dont need to hide that kinda stuff that you can get at a magic store...but my uncle is a illosionist an he has tought me so much... and sorry about the spelling not trying to
jimmey303 2 years ago
be a ass but it is a show that you go to see when you want to be fooled and if you keep commeing up with coustume tricks it dont matter
jimmey303 2 years ago
@funworksfun2 I agree. I am a Magician. A Real Magician does not reveal Magic secrets to anyone.
tap585grad706 1 year ago
It's like a svengali deck :)
filip050689 2 years ago
Revealing magic is wrong. You show no respect to the creators of the effects and the magicians that support themselves and their families by performing these tricks. By giving away these tricks you are taking food off their family and possibly even the roof over their head. Way to go! If you think that makes you cool, then you have some serious problems.
valentinoisaloser 2 years ago
@valentinoisaloser I agree. I am a magician. I could not have said it better. Flag his videos.
tap585grad706 1 year ago
i was going to buy 1
fgonz106 2 years ago
nice trick can you suscribe to me i suscribed to you
McMisterT 2 years ago
Brilliant
RubenWallgren 2 years ago
cool finaly i know it
biesotter 2 years ago
cool thanks
CodeDark 2 years ago