Re: Talking to the Dead

[IslamicGoldenAge]

Bro, how can you make fun of your Muslim brother, and dis his voice. Ask Allah for forgiveness bro

[TheDaiz999]

Well You Both Are Claiming Just The Opposite,

Ahmed Deedat in one of his lectures said that he uses his tactics to those who are already offensive towards Islam,

Watch his lecture COMBAT KIT for the Proof,

Shabbir Ally on the other hand draws attention to those Christians who are not offensive but are ACADEMIC in your own words and want to learn,

Both Are 2 Opposite Things!

Ahmed Deedat, Debater And Destroyer Of Haters,

Shabbir Ally, Debater And Destroyer In Other Way !

[TheDaiz999]

Anyways,

You are absolutely wrong in one point,

WE as Muslims debate not with our knowledge but with our trust in Allah!

no matter what the other side has got,

he ain't got the truth!

Thats what happened to me in many debates !

i debated(written ones) to many Christians who were more elder than me and more knowledgeable than me.

But By The Grace Of Allah!

I Won!

So Its not about P.H.Ds but its about The Help Of Allah!

[zafthedon]

Salaam

You brothers have to sort this mess up seriously its getting out of hand. Ahmed Deedat was a product of his enviroment - Missiionries wanted to convert the muslims and Ahmed Deedat used there tactics against them - he preety much defeated everyone in his time and no christain at his time could refute him....until now but its too late Ahmed Deddat did his work and he has some great points still. Also if he was alive today he would definitly have rebuttled.

peace.

[easyonetwothree]

Brother MBC, I do NOT agree with those whom suspect that ur a Christian LOL, but I disagree with you on Deedat!

Salaam

[easyonetwothree]

Ahmad Deedat was a lion, realise, accept and live, Allah blessed him with GREAT tactics, he was millitant, this is what the kuffar need, they need a millitant lion on their backs, May Allah raise Deedat in Jannah, ameen!

Brothers and sisters, study deedat and do as he did, attack them straight where they dont want to be attacked, and this is why all of them criticize him :)!

[drgonboyx]

Dude.. seriously? Are you stressed out in your life? ive noticed you act extremely grumpy towards many muslims without understanding their point of view first. You always assume things about muslims. Please stop that. salam

[hykhan]

MuslimByChoice why are you going to a Shia website talking crap about your sunni brother

we are brothers in Islam we should defend and support each other

[MuslimByChoice]

I wasn't talking crap, I'm not sure if you have read my comment on shiachat, I asked one of the member there ( Qaim ) to tell me what would Rex do if Farhan for example lost the debate, would he ask Yasir Qahdi to come and apologize on his show, ofcourse Rex got it wrong ( As usual... the man has speech problems, he said so in one of his videos )

[IslamandFriends]

Your such a lair MBC this is what you said

Did I hear the Host of Islam and Friends correctly ?!!, Did He just say that if MacIsaac won the debate he will ask Qahdi to come to the show and apologize publicly to ALL SHIA !!, and if Orthodox786 won then Rex will declare on his show that Qhadi is right and Shia are out of Islam !!

This post has been edited by Muslim by Choice: Jan 17 2009, 05:02 AM

[MuslimByChoice]

You proved my point, I was questioning Qaim what would you do if Farhan lost the debate and yes you did say you would apologize if Macisaac gosh you have a short memory like fish ..

[IslamandFriends]

Again I find it funny that you make fun of my speech problems when you have NEVER spoken on a mic! Why is that? *lol Your such a fake and everyone can see that! Anyhow I'll leave you alone now so you can go back to writing love letters to Jay Smith!

[MuslimByChoice]

then maybe you should invite me to your show and see who has speech problems !! me and jay smith ..how about ..bytheway why didnt you allow my video response on yout page ..scared !!

[ali12147]

you need to get rid of the pride and arrogance mate, your responsible for your own actions, people like Deedat debated to spread the message of islam but debating your own brothers and sisters and belittling them, are you realy doing that for the sake of Allah?

[GothThug81]

Deedat was probably one of the worse debaters I have ever seen, you cant even call a debater, even Shiekh Yusuf Estes called Deedat a terrible debater bro MuslimbyChoice has the right to express his view ..I support you

[hykhan]

famous youtubers who converted to Islam like qwertyfshag and Converted2Islam both said deedat has influence on their decision to convert to Islam

and these guys are recent converts

so I don't know how come deedat tactics are outdated when people are converting to Islam thanks to deedat even after his death

[MuslimByChoice]

Your talking as if Deedat was the only Muslim debater, I cant deny that he was first person to open the door for other muslim apologists but there are many debaters who have more academic knowledge, who have received honorary degrees from well known univerisites, like Shabir ally, we need these kind of people ..we are not in the 80s, you know ..

[hykhan]

again you didn't answer my question

if his tactics are so 80s then why people even today are converting to islam thanks to him.

someone who was blessed by Allah doesn't need a human rubber stamp which you call university

[MuslimByChoice]

Your assuming that people are converting because of deedat's videos and books, maybe that was the case 20 years ago, but not now, and why dont you say that people are converting today because Zakir naik's videos, what about Shabir's videos what makes you so sure they have zero influence on ppl..your biased is astonishing ..

[hykhan]

I agree with you that Deedat was very aggressive sometimes, but to say his tactics are old is not fair

Just cuz you dont like his style doesn't mean that it doesn't work

other debaters have their own styles

all of them work on different people

[xiaahmad1]

Shabir ally pawned Jay smith in all debates.

and funny thing is Deedat pawned all in debates and now when that guy is dead these crack pots claims to refute him

when all failed in his life time :D

[ali12147]

Imagine if one of you gave in and said ok, your right. Who are both of you trying to please, because i don't think Allah would approve of your childness. The ummah has many problems as it is, so please cut the rubbish, and follow the sunnah.

[MuslimByChoice]

tell that to Rex, he started it

[IslamandFriends]

Mujtahid2006 is the main speaker of Tafkeer productions you said they never disproved Jay Smith. Also your goofing on my voice yet you've never had the guts to speak on the mic? *lol You are nothing but a parasite. You lying punk coward.

[MuslimByChoice]

You suppose to allow this video response on your page, but I know you dont have the guts to do it, and even if I said bro Mujtahid did'nt do well against Jay smith that doesnt mean I was attacking him I simply criticized his tactics, Jay Smith is very eloquent speaker, he has a good radio voice you have to give the man little credit, oh yeah maybe you should do something to your voice, Your voice sounds like a girl, how about some hormone pills !?

[ytislam]

MuslimByChoice r u shia brother?

[GothThug81]

Bro MuslimbyChoice I totally agree with you that Deedat's tactics are not compatible today, thats why we have ppl like Shabir Ally

Love your channel