Marking the ictus is fine - on a text. However, it wasn't part of the pronounced poem, just part of its metrical substructure. Have you read Sonkowsky's LATIN VERSE-ICTUS AND MULTIMODAL ENTRAINMENT? Google for it. There are also some good models on SORGLL (google for that too)
@evan1965 Thanks for the article. The audio is a big help, along with your own recordings on youtube. Sonkowsky brings up some points that reinforce what I've recently read in Thomas' intro to his Georgics commentary, and, as a whole, point me to where I *want* to be.
@brj4 Pleased to have helped. Sonkowsky is good, so is bennett's little book on reading latin poetry which is available on archive.org. Johan Winge's site "Spoken Latin" has a good collection of useful links.
Why do you move the accent onto the wrong syllables when you read? The ictus is like a duck paddling under the water beating the time, on the surface you should just see the duck smoothly moving along, the ictus is not supposed to be explicit, the natural word accent remains in place.
@evan1965 For that you can fault my teachers who were from the school of scansion over developing a more balanced approach, and it's one of the hard things to unlearn. I really enjoyed your videos.
Marking the ictus is fine - on a text. However, it wasn't part of the pronounced poem, just part of its metrical substructure. Have you read Sonkowsky's LATIN VERSE-ICTUS AND MULTIMODAL ENTRAINMENT? Google for it. There are also some good models on SORGLL (google for that too)
evan1965 1 month ago
@evan1965 Thanks for the article. The audio is a big help, along with your own recordings on youtube. Sonkowsky brings up some points that reinforce what I've recently read in Thomas' intro to his Georgics commentary, and, as a whole, point me to where I *want* to be.
brj4 1 month ago
@brj4 Pleased to have helped. Sonkowsky is good, so is bennett's little book on reading latin poetry which is available on archive.org. Johan Winge's site "Spoken Latin" has a good collection of useful links.
evan1965 1 month ago
Why do you move the accent onto the wrong syllables when you read? The ictus is like a duck paddling under the water beating the time, on the surface you should just see the duck smoothly moving along, the ictus is not supposed to be explicit, the natural word accent remains in place.
evan1965 1 month ago
@evan1965 For that you can fault my teachers who were from the school of scansion over developing a more balanced approach, and it's one of the hard things to unlearn. I really enjoyed your videos.
brj4 1 month ago
This is great! Currently studying this for Latin A-Level. Thanks, man.
PokeyStix 2 months ago