I'm curious about the funding for these grand Presby churches in and around Pittsburgh. Was it Carnegie money? Didn't think he was very religious. Mellon money? Frick money or some other steel or coal baron? Also, as previously commented by others, this is very high church for the church of John Knox and Scottish simplicity and rectitude. I don't think many Ch. of Scotland congos go this high up the candle across the Pond.
@brassspitoon Presbyterian Churches benefited from the generosity of families with well-known names such as Heinz, Westinghouse & Mellon - and others not as famous. In addition to steel,aluminum & glass, considerable Pittsburgh wealth resulted from banking, manufacturing, railroads & oil. Carnegie was nominally Swedenborgian but donated money for pipe organs to churches of many denominations.
I almost thought this was an Anglican/Episcopal Church service... the only thing that gave away that it was not, was that the clerics were wearing Geneva Gowns (preaching robes) as opposed to Albs and stoles (which are Anglican/Episcopal Eucharistic vestments)
@StellarTwilight33 Well, we do kid ourselves about being "High Church Presbyterian" Our neighbor in this end of Pittsburgh, East Liberty Presbyterian has an even more formal processional with a beedle. Ralph Adams Cram claimed he could convert East Liberty for a high pontifical mass in 15 minutes.
I am breathless just listening to the hymn here! Is there something about the acoustics that require it to be so fast? I would think a broader tempo would work better in that grand space. Thanks for letting me inquire.
@jorobinson I can't vouch for the accuracy of the tempo as recorded on the video feature of my still camera. In general, I think our processionals have a brisk pace. I looked in vain to see if there was another version archived at the church's website, to compare the tempo. Sorry I can't comment knowledgably.
Every sunday I go to presbyterian church in my villige but one day ,one elder in the church tell me go out from the church . because my english is not good. and he will introduce to me another church where is not english spoken.
Is he right to tell me out from church and go to another church ?
I think that even i can not speak well in english but i can go to church in jesus .
@fallaziyo The important thing about a curch is that you can worship God "in spirit and in truth." If you can do so, even though worship is not in your native language, you should feel welcome and others there should welcome you. Unless the language barrier leads to a serious distraction for you or others, you should worship where God leads you. The elder may have tried to be gracious concerning language difficulties, but may also have misunderstood your situation. God bless you in worship.
@xraytech86 - Grand indeed, it is a great blessing in worship - church webpage on organ: shadysidepres dot org click on A Worshiping Community then Music and then About the Reuter organ
Sorry that I can't post a link in a reply. While you are there you can hear more of the organ in the Worship Archive under Service and Hymns
For Shadyside worship & architecture, see my site shadysidelantern dot com
@brotherdoc thanks you can hear the complete hymn at shadysidepres dot org Click on "listen" to sermons - hymns are archived on worship page - it was final hymn on Palm Sunday 28 Mar 2010
@kariebeez I have worshiped @ East Liberty the liturgy and architecture are high church indeed.
The song is "Sing Praise to God, Who Reigns Above" 483 in the Pres Hymnal Tune is Mitt Freuden Zart Please join us for worship when you can You might enjoy my website at shadysidelantern dot com A couple of features relate to East Liberty Presbyterian Ralph Adams Cram and the Winged Creatures & Three Vined Mice
Thank you so much for your immediate reply. I've been viewing that video all day, the song is so beautiful. Thanks for your invite to Shadyside Presbyterian, I will visit. And please know you're welcome at ELPC whose "high church " tradition I really enjoy.
Thank you so much for the information. I will check the church's site regarding upcoming hymns. And thanks for the iletting me know that Shadyside will be singing #483 on Palm Sunday. I just may visit that day if not before. I see Dr. Barnes is having Lenten vespers starting 2-24. I am planning to attend. Again, thanks for your exceptional kindness.
Please provide more videos! I get the cassette tapes every week and listen "religiously." I first discovered Shadyside on KDKA back in the early 1960's, and years ago secured a copy of the church history. Visited there (on a Tuesday) a few years ago & was given a tour by Susie. I hope to return someday on a Sunday. A video of the current renovation would be intriguing as well. (glad the sanctuary is remaining the same.)
Delighted to have you worship with us - even via tape. I will get more video. Susie, now retired, was the welcoming voice and face of the church. Please do visit us on a Sunday - I would like to greet you.
What a great treat to see this worship service in a favorite church. I listened to the radio broadcasts late on Sunday Nights here in Oklahoma on KDKA and always wanted to see what I was listening to. Now I have. Thanks for putting this on for us.
You are most welcome. Its a privilege & blessing to worship at Shadyside. Hope to post more & better quality video with new camera.
You can see more photos & read about architecture at my shadysidelantern website - see URL in info with video. Chris Pardini promises to write a feature for the site about the organ.
Glad to know there are listeners in Oklahoma. I helped with effort to get us back on KDKA (1020AM) on Sundays at 11:00 PM.
I'm curious about the funding for these grand Presby churches in and around Pittsburgh. Was it Carnegie money? Didn't think he was very religious. Mellon money? Frick money or some other steel or coal baron? Also, as previously commented by others, this is very high church for the church of John Knox and Scottish simplicity and rectitude. I don't think many Ch. of Scotland congos go this high up the candle across the Pond.
brassspitoon 3 months ago
@brassspitoon Presbyterian Churches benefited from the generosity of families with well-known names such as Heinz, Westinghouse & Mellon - and others not as famous. In addition to steel,aluminum & glass, considerable Pittsburgh wealth resulted from banking, manufacturing, railroads & oil. Carnegie was nominally Swedenborgian but donated money for pipe organs to churches of many denominations.
shadysidelantern 3 months ago
I almost thought this was an Anglican/Episcopal Church service... the only thing that gave away that it was not, was that the clerics were wearing Geneva Gowns (preaching robes) as opposed to Albs and stoles (which are Anglican/Episcopal Eucharistic vestments)
StellarTwilight33 9 months ago
@StellarTwilight33 Well, we do kid ourselves about being "High Church Presbyterian" Our neighbor in this end of Pittsburgh, East Liberty Presbyterian has an even more formal processional with a beedle. Ralph Adams Cram claimed he could convert East Liberty for a high pontifical mass in 15 minutes.
shadysidelantern 9 months ago
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StellarTwilight33 9 months ago
I am breathless just listening to the hymn here! Is there something about the acoustics that require it to be so fast? I would think a broader tempo would work better in that grand space. Thanks for letting me inquire.
jorobinson 11 months ago
@jorobinson I can't vouch for the accuracy of the tempo as recorded on the video feature of my still camera. In general, I think our processionals have a brisk pace. I looked in vain to see if there was another version archived at the church's website, to compare the tempo. Sorry I can't comment knowledgably.
shadysidelantern 11 months ago
Hello
Im a people who live in trois rivier in canada.
Every sunday I go to presbyterian church in my villige but one day ,one elder in the church tell me go out from the church . because my english is not good. and he will introduce to me another church where is not english spoken.
Is he right to tell me out from church and go to another church ?
I think that even i can not speak well in english but i can go to church in jesus .
Please tell me your opinions.
fallaziyo 1 year ago
@fallaziyo The important thing about a curch is that you can worship God "in spirit and in truth." If you can do so, even though worship is not in your native language, you should feel welcome and others there should welcome you. Unless the language barrier leads to a serious distraction for you or others, you should worship where God leads you. The elder may have tried to be gracious concerning language difficulties, but may also have misunderstood your situation. God bless you in worship.
shadysidelantern 1 year ago
can you tell me about the organ? who made it, how many ranks?
It sounds like a very grand organ
xraytech86 1 year ago
@xraytech86 - Grand indeed, it is a great blessing in worship - church webpage on organ: shadysidepres dot org click on A Worshiping Community then Music and then About the Reuter organ
Sorry that I can't post a link in a reply. While you are there you can hear more of the organ in the Worship Archive under Service and Hymns
For Shadyside worship & architecture, see my site shadysidelantern dot com
shadysidelantern 1 year ago
One of my favorite hymns, thanks, wish the recording captured more verses. Beautiful.
brotherdoc 1 year ago
@brotherdoc thanks you can hear the complete hymn at shadysidepres dot org Click on "listen" to sermons - hymns are archived on worship page - it was final hymn on Palm Sunday 28 Mar 2010
shadysidelantern 1 year ago
Humbled before the Lord, a most beautiful hymn. Wish I knew the name of it.
kariebeez 2 years ago
@kariebeez I have worshiped @ East Liberty the liturgy and architecture are high church indeed.
The song is "Sing Praise to God, Who Reigns Above" 483 in the Pres Hymnal Tune is Mitt Freuden Zart Please join us for worship when you can You might enjoy my website at shadysidelantern dot com A couple of features relate to East Liberty Presbyterian Ralph Adams Cram and the Winged Creatures & Three Vined Mice
shadysidelantern 2 years ago
Thank you so much for your immediate reply. I've been viewing that video all day, the song is so beautiful. Thanks for your invite to Shadyside Presbyterian, I will visit. And please know you're welcome at ELPC whose "high church " tradition I really enjoy.
kariebeez 2 years ago
You may know that the church posts each weeks hymns in the worship archive at shadysidepres dot org
shadysidelantern 2 years ago
PS - you may not want to be away from your home church on Palm Sunday, but this is to be our recessional hymn that day
shadysidelantern 2 years ago
Thank you so much for the information. I will check the church's site regarding upcoming hymns. And thanks for the iletting me know that Shadyside will be singing #483 on Palm Sunday. I just may visit that day if not before. I see Dr. Barnes is having Lenten vespers starting 2-24. I am planning to attend. Again, thanks for your exceptional kindness.
kariebeez 2 years ago
A VERY Episcopal Presbyterian Church!!
Here in Ireland the Presbyterians dont have robe choirs or any alter area. Just a minister and a pulpit - very plain stuff!
pipeup1 2 years ago
Yes, if there is such a thing, we are "High Church Presbyterian"
shadysidelantern 2 years ago
Wonderful, who knows, maybe your church will rediscover Apostolic succession and rejoin the mainstream Church :-)
pipeup1 2 years ago
Please provide more videos! I get the cassette tapes every week and listen "religiously." I first discovered Shadyside on KDKA back in the early 1960's, and years ago secured a copy of the church history. Visited there (on a Tuesday) a few years ago & was given a tour by Susie. I hope to return someday on a Sunday. A video of the current renovation would be intriguing as well. (glad the sanctuary is remaining the same.)
Wattsviller1 2 years ago
Delighted to have you worship with us - even via tape. I will get more video. Susie, now retired, was the welcoming voice and face of the church. Please do visit us on a Sunday - I would like to greet you.
shadysidelantern 2 years ago
What a great treat to see this worship service in a favorite church. I listened to the radio broadcasts late on Sunday Nights here in Oklahoma on KDKA and always wanted to see what I was listening to. Now I have. Thanks for putting this on for us.
yamaho5 2 years ago
You are most welcome. Its a privilege & blessing to worship at Shadyside. Hope to post more & better quality video with new camera.
You can see more photos & read about architecture at my shadysidelantern website - see URL in info with video. Chris Pardini promises to write a feature for the site about the organ.
Glad to know there are listeners in Oklahoma. I helped with effort to get us back on KDKA (1020AM) on Sundays at 11:00 PM.
shadysidelantern 2 years ago
The old saying was, "Pittsurgh is where the Presbyterians are densest."
shadysidelantern 2 years ago
Ah, Pittsburgh, the most Presbyterian city on Earth!
Ukieboi83 2 years ago